test prop/havoc

[FitModel]

1-4 weeks : Havoc 30mgs
1-4 weeks : Test Prop 100mgs EOD


PCT:
1-4 weeks : tormafeine
1-4 weeks : Retain 2
1-4 weeks : tribulous (product) "hypertest"
1-4 weeks : ZMA
1-4 weeks : Milk Thistle


my real question here is regarding the gyno reduction properties of Havoc, will stacking this with Test Prop, deminish the anti gyno properties? thoughts?

 

[Couldigga]

why are you only running test for 4 weeks?

And yeah you should have less estrogenic effects...

 

[FitModel]

why are you only running test for 4 weeks?

And yeah you should have less estrogenic effects...

mainly because I only want to do a 4 weeker. also, I want minimal shutdown/sides...

 

[jvb20]

i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...

 

[FitModel]

i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...

max, I'll run 6


but what do you guys think I should do to help reduce gyno?

 

[SteelEntity]

always have nolvadex on hand

 

[PumpingIron]

You can run a SERM at low doses or an AI at moderate doses.


There is nothing wrong with short cycles. I think is was size, but don't quote me on that, that had a thread about how much he liked short cycles.