Thanks for the info. Atlas. I can't seem to find any ingredients anywhere on the spayflex stuff . It sounds like a product that's worth trying if you want to stay the natural route, but I want to know what the hell it is. Alot of big names endorse it but it could just be a marketing scheme. They get paid big money to say how great the product is, yet they probably never tried it. How about Promagnon 25? I read some reviews and people say it works pretty good. Ever heard of it or tried it?