Winter Bulk Cycle Planning

[Marketpro4k]

Curious if anyone has run this stack. If so, how’d it go?

Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 400
Mast 400
Reta 2mg

I’m planning 24 week run with it

My other option/idea is:

Test 900
NPP 600
Mast 400
Reta 2mg

 

[Smont]

My only question is......Why use a GLP on a bulk, I know the dose is low, but what's the reasoning. On 2gm of gear your already going to be burning up calories faster then normal and nothing about reta is conducive to bulking or putting on muscle

 

[Marketpro4k]

My only question is......Why use a GLP on a bulk, I know the dose is low, but what's the reasoning. On 2gm of gear your already going to be burning up calories faster then normal and nothing about reta is conducive to bulking or putting on muscle

Just helps keep insulin’s sensitivity high really and Reta below 6mg a week does nothing to my appetite

 

[Smont]

Just helps keep insulin’s sensitivity high really and Reta below 6mg a week does nothing to my appetite

There's so many things you can use to keep your insulin sensitivity high instead of a diabetes medication. Reta and all GLP 1 also cause muscle loss, I understand steroids are going to negate that, but rather really doesn't offer you anything here that you couldn't achieve very easily without taking more drugs. Like a little bit of cardio and some berberine, To each there own

 

[Smont]

And even if it's doing nothing to your appetite, it's still slowing down your digestion, this delays gastric emptying, and during a bulk it's going to leave you with a lot of undigested food in your gut and that's going to compound meal after meal day after day and week after week. So upfront it might not be a problem but in the long haul it's causing more negatives than positives by a long shot

 

[Marketpro4k]

And even if it's doing nothing to your appetite, it's still slowing down your digestion, this delays gastric emptying, and during a bulk it's going to leave you with a lot of undigested food in your gut and that's going to compound meal after meal day after day and week after week. So upfront it might not be a problem but in the long haul it's causing more negatives than positives by a long shot

Great point! Didn’t factor that in!

 

[Marketpro4k]

And even if it's doing nothing to your appetite, it's still slowing down your digestion, this delays gastric emptying, and during a bulk it's going to leave you with a lot of undigested food in your gut and that's going to compound meal after meal day after day and week after week. So upfront it might not be a problem but in the long haul it's causing more negatives than positives by a long shot

I’m on the fence about using EQ in the bulk. I’ve never run it and hate that it takes so long to start giving results. What are your thoughts on the test, NPP and EQ combo. I hear nothing but good things but wonder if just test and NPP would be better

 

[Smont]

I’m on the fence about using EQ in the bulk. I’ve never run it and hate that it takes so long to start giving results. What are your thoughts on the test, NPP and EQ combo. I hear nothing but good things but wonder if just test and NPP would be better

Eq is my favorite steroid, has been for a long time. Obviously it's not the strongest and I love it because it doesn't give me side effects, but I think most ppl confuse cosmetic effects with muscle growth. All the steroids that "start working fast" that's just cosmetic, building muscle takes months and years. I mean think about it. If you could really add muscle as fast as that cosmetic effect kicks in why wouldn't we all just run six week cycles add 15 lb and then stop the cycle and save our health. It's because it's cosmetic it's not muscle. EQ doesn't take any longer to build muscle it just doesn't really have a cosmetic effect outside of vascularity.

I've used EQ and NPP together, it works fine. I've used EQ and Mast together also and I think it's pointless unless you want to be really dry and vascular and that's not going to happened on a bulk. My dosage opinion on EQ at this point in my life is to run as much as you can without crashing your estrogen. On 600 test and 400 NPP, I could probably run 600eq. But I'm not one of those people who gets their estrogen crushed by EQ either. And it usually takes five or six weeks to see how much it's lowering your estrogen.

Test Deca Eq and GH is an offseason cycle for the large majority of big ass bodybuilders. Pretty sure Nick Walker's coach also said that's what he uses in the off-season and he's pound for pound the most muscular person on the stage and the current Mr Olympia.

Test, NPP, eq and GH would be the same thing.

I'm also not trying to change your mind, I'm just giving my opinions. I think your total doses are on point for what you're looking to achieve, I don't think the compound selection matters nearly as much as the total milligram and the food

 

[Mr.thomas joy]

Curious if anyone has run this stack. If so, how’d it go?

Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 400
Mast 400
Reta 2mg

I’m planning 24 week run with it

My other option/idea is:

Test 900
NPP 600
Mast 400
Reta 2mg

Personally I wouldn’t assume the 900 test / 600 NPP option is the better move just because it has fewer compounds. Total exposure matters too.