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Androflaven said:
Well, we got rid of ISIS. I guess there's probably a few guys driving around the desert still waving their flag, but they are basically dead. I think the same can be done with Hamas and Hezbollah in time. We can wear them down. They are far less of a threat now than they were a few years ago.

The terrorists of Oct 7 2023 killed a bunch of civilians and then ran home and hid among other civilians. So we either reward the terrorists here by letting that be a winning strategy, or we do what needs to be done and punish them. The collateral damage is on the terrorists for their cowardly behavior.

Trump never undermined the NATO alliance, he actually pressured Europe to start taking control of their own defense instead of relying on America to do everything for them. Trump made NATO stronger. "Allies" who are all take and no give are not allies at all, no need to appease them.

Trump was pretty rough with Zelensky, but he secured us a better deal. Now in exchange for helping Ukraine, we gain access to all their drone tech and some of their rare earth minerals. So we have skin in the game now.

Greenland is crucial for America's defense. It's the perfect place to set up defense against nuclear warheads coming from Russia. I'm sure Trump would be happy to write Greenland or Denmark a check, but of course Europe wants to be a pain in the ass over this, like they are with basically everything...
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Even without territorial control, ISIS still exists through a hidden network of cells. They have adapted and survived, operating through lone wolves and decentralized networks. Wasn't it just a week ago that Jessica Bowie allegedly tried to blow up the New York State Capitol? Collateral damage works both ways, but I guess it matters more to you when Americans are involved? For me, European lives matter more than American lives, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point. It all depends on your perspective.

You have to understand the mechanisms behind NATO, why it was created, and what purpose it was intended to serve. NATO was also designed to strengthen America's position and influence. You can read up on the Marshall Plan and the Mutual Security Act and draw your own conclusions.

One consequence of this arrangement was that European countries did not have to invest as heavily in their own defense because they had a security guarantor: the United States. Trump has now made it clear that America's allies may have to stand on their own. I have no problem with that. In fact, the stronger the EU becomes militarily, the less military dominance and influence the US will have over Europe.

It's funny how you try to turn a war against the free world into a business calculation. Ukraine is now a world leader in modern warfare, developing ways to maximize enemy casualties while minimizing costs. You should ask yourself how much the war against Iran has cost American taxpayers, and to what end?

Europeans don't give a damn about whether Greenland is strategically important to the defense of the United States. Trump has made his position clear, and he has repeatedly shown far more sympathy toward Putin than many Europeans find acceptable. We hate Putin and would take every opportunity to see him brought before the International Criminal Court in The Hague, while your president invited him, sat down with him, and treated him to a nice meal (maybe even sucked his balls?).

Europe is now militarily stronger than it has been in decades, and ironically, partly because of Trump. The Nordic countries and other European nations are increasingly prepared to defend Greenland. If Trump were to threaten an invasion of Greenlandic territory, they would not simply stand by and watch.

The US can use its own territory to station its nuclear weapons. An alliance goes both ways. Why should Europe accept US nuclear warheads being stationed on European soil while the US tells Europe that it has to stand on its own? Find your own space and make it work on your own, just as Europe is now being forced to do.
 
Americans: We can’t afford gas, groceries, or rent!

Trump: Best I can do is change the names of ****.

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Androflaven said:
Libtards and RINOs have been fucking up this country for the last 50 years or so, I will admit Trump hasn't managed to fix everything in 18 months. I know this is totally unacceptable in this day and age when everything has to happen RIGHT NOW. Nonetheless, I guess some work needs to be done to disrupt this blackpill circle jerk because this is getting a little out of control. White pills incoming!
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I've never denied libtards and RINO's suck- my point is they ALL suck even Trump. Quit defending politicians- the only argument you can make of anything positive is shipping out illegals. Well good! But at the end of the day that piece of trash Obama got rid of more illegals than Trump. Why isn't Trump doing anything about the Muslims inside of our gov't? (congress & Senate). He could have used all that money wasted on Iran to ship them all out. Diesel is still $5/gallon- I told everyone on here that fuel prices would sky rocket and they won't be coming down anywhere close to where they were before the war. The idiots on here called me crazy and said after two weeks it would all go back to normal. Open your eyes- Trump is either compromised or he was always one of them- take your pick. But facts are facts- are economy sucks- prices on everything are at all time highs and they aren't getter any lower. Debt is at an all time high and Trump has only made it exponentially worse. Why defend him? Or are you scared of the muslims in Iran that were going to bomb you in your sleep..........lol- not one of you idiots gave 2 shits about Iran or worried about them having nukes until the beginning of this year when Fox news told you to be scared of the new bogey man- ya'll are pathetic.
 
Androflaven said:
Dude, when liberals gain power they USE it, which is why they have been winning for the last 50 years. They don't need precedent to do anything, what we do doesn't matter to them! Liberals will just declare an emergency over any stupid thing (like one black guy overdosing in close proximity to a cop) and use that to do ANYTHING they want. Liberals always use their power to reward friends and punish enemies, even if the enemies are like you and refuse to use their own power out of fear of what the consequences might be. YOU still don't know how to FIGHT and Donald Trump has been trying to teach you for 10 years now, SAD!
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What are you 12? If you think ICE gaining more power is a positive thing, you are either delusional or stupid.
 
BamBam54 said:
Tuna - you don't have to worry because you will never earn the title of US Marine. LOLOLOL

And Iran actually has attacked and killed American troops, and if you ever had the balls to serve you might be looking for some payback. If they had the ability to do so, they would kill us all. Hence their secret nuclear facilities buried under a mountain that every president before has pretended to ignore.

Instead of bringing the fight to our enemy, you hide in your basement chasing conspiracy theories and rainbow colored unicorns in fantasy land. :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO:
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And America killed Iranians in 1953 and over threw their gov't.........you keep leaving that important information out. I respect our armed forces and especially the Marines. You forget my brother was a Lt. Colonel. I didn't join the service because I had a brain. Now I enjoy getting paid in the top 3% and having 6 months vacation a year while spending time with the family I love (many former service members). They laugh at your cowardice and when it comes to Iran. We get it- you hate all rag heads and want them all dead- women and children included. Again- you are a pathetic former Marine with beliefs like that and no empathy for anyone who doesn't agree that all Muslims should die. All bad Muslims should pay the price along with all bad people no matter what their religion or political side.
 
TheViking said:
Even without territorial control, ISIS still exists through a hidden network of cells. They have adapted and survived, operating through lone wolves and decentralized networks. Wasn't it just a week ago that Jessica Bowie allegedly tried to blow up the New York State Capitol? Collateral damage works both ways, but I guess it matters more to you when Americans are involved? For me, European lives matter more than American lives, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point. It all depends on your perspective.

You have to understand the mechanisms behind NATO, why it was created, and what purpose it was intended to serve. NATO was also designed to strengthen America's position and influence. You can read up on the Marshall Plan and the Mutual Security Act and draw your own conclusions.

One consequence of this arrangement was that European countries did not have to invest as heavily in their own defense because they had a security guarantor: the United States. Trump has now made it clear that America's allies may have to stand on their own. I have no problem with that. In fact, the stronger the EU becomes militarily, the less military dominance and influence the US will have over Europe.

It's funny how you try to turn a war against the free world into a business calculation. Ukraine is now a world leader in modern warfare, developing ways to maximize enemy casualties while minimizing costs. You should ask yourself how much the war against Iran has cost American taxpayers, and to what end?

Europeans don't give a damn about whether Greenland is strategically important to the defense of the United States. Trump has made his position clear, and he has repeatedly shown far more sympathy toward Putin than many Europeans find acceptable. We hate Putin and would take every opportunity to see him brought before the International Criminal Court in The Hague, while your president invited him, sat down with him, and treated him to a nice meal (maybe even sucked his balls?).

Europe is now militarily stronger than it has been in decades, and ironically, partly because of Trump. The Nordic countries and other European nations are increasingly prepared to defend Greenland. If Trump were to threaten an invasion of Greenlandic territory, they would not simply stand by and watch.

The US can use its own territory to station its nuclear weapons. An alliance goes both ways. Why should Europe accept US nuclear warheads being stationed on European soil while the US tells Europe that it has to stand on its own? Find your own space and make it work on your own, just as Europe is now being forced to do.
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Yeah, I guess Europe still does have terrorism problems? Stop with the open borders stuff, you let them in and you never make them pay a price when they misbehave so of course they attack you. That's how these people operate. This isn't a problem America can fix for you.

Trump is not saying Europe has to stand on their own, that's just European histrionics. He just wants you to CONTRIBUTE to your own defense. Slowly Europe is starting to do this, but by God is it a slog. Bitching and whining every inch of the way.

Iran won't ever be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. They have supported terrorism for decades. The damage that they have suffered is worth a temporary increase at the gas pump.

"Europe is now militarily stronger than it has been in decades, and ironically, partly because of Trump." Partly because of Trump? Entirely because of Trump, and where's the thank you? You act like it's a betrayal that he forces you to stand up for yourself. How can you be so ungrateful?

"Europeans don't give a damn about whether Greenland is strategically important to the defense of the United States." No ****, you don't even care about your own defense, why would you care about ours? You want to saber rattle endlessly with Putin yet you want America to bankroll your defense? F U C K you, we should just take Greenland. What are you gonna do, send another 12 soldiers to defend it?

"We hate Putin and would take every opportunity to see him brought before the International Criminal Court in The Hague" Bahahahah, no you wouldn't! I mean if that's what you want, go get him! But no, what you mean is you want America to do this for you, like everything else of importance.
 
The Pentagon is discussing the use of nukes in Iran.....im sure this will turn out fine.
 
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Androflaven said:
Iran won't ever be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. They have supported terrorism for decades. The damage that they have suffered is worth a temporary increase at the gas pump.
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The US or anyone else cant stop Iran from getting nukes if they dont have them already. Likely they at least can make dirty bombs and put them on ballistic missile. Once they get nukes Trump will be first in line and call the Ayatolla is BFF just like he does with nuclear power North Korea, remember, the country that would never be allowed to get nuclear weapons? LMFAO. And the most communist country on the planet, and he no longer wants to send signals that are "inappropriate and hostile" RROOFFLLLL!!!!

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Nuclear holocaust is on the horizon....if the internet goes down.

Its been real, it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun....

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I'll on AIM and several AoL chat rooms in the meantime
 
BamBam54 said:
The Pentagon actually said that????? What is your source?
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Im sorry, I could tell you, but I'd have to....well you know the rest
 
Im just joshin' @BamBam54

I hope they dont, but we live in a crazy world...so who knows
 
manifesto said:
Im just joshin' @BamBam54

I hope they dont, but we live in a crazy world...so who knows
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"So who knows".... smart people ALL know!

You can always verify true stories and who said what exactly, if it really happened. Fake news from sh1tty anonymous sources are meant to mislead and negatively influence you.

A better question is -- WHO is spreading these fake news stories and WHY??
 
I understand youre point of of view mang, didnt come here to argue...

Just helps me to come joke around a bit, is all
 
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manifesto said:
Im just joshin' @BamBam54

I hope they dont, but we live in a crazy world...so who knows
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Wouldn’t surprise me one bit, they already participate in one genocide or another, and the US did use nuclear waste during the 1st Gulf War that both got Iraqi children and other civilians sick and also our own very troops sick with cancer….then they send our vets into hospital basements so they can rot to death to cut VA costs even if they have treatable illnesses. There is no low bottom standard how the Military Industrial Complex will go.

Never forget how they treated our first responders after they got sick on 9-11, they just let our “heroes” rot to death.

Trump is a pure psychopath and people still vote for him knowing this just cause the other side likes putting women with sausages into women’s bathrooms.
 
The reason I even mentioned it is Joe Kent, whom i respect, has been talking about it being our only way out of this....

Since it appears Trump refuses to just pack up and leave....I could see them using WMD on Kharg Island, or perhaps pick axe mountain...

But, I guess only time will tell
 
manifesto said:
The reason I even mentioned it is Joe Kent, whom i respect, has been talking about it being our only way out of this....

Since it appears Trump refuses to just pack up and leave....I could see them using WMD on Kharg Island, or perhaps pick axe mountain...

But, I guess only time will tell
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Iranians will just wait out Trump’s failed war until the deep state creates another boogyman and new war to start. A perfect time to flip the script is when Repulsivkins are voted out when the voter is given the illusion again they will get something different with Dumbokraps.

I dunno if they would use it on Karg island, they kinda need that. If anything they could WMD the mountains but then the consequences are Iran most certainly will try to carpetblank Israel which Trump is most loyal to with their own WMD’s….if not a full nuke, a dirty warhead or chemical weapons.

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manifesto said:
The reason I even mentioned it is Joe Kent, whom i respect, has been talking about it being our only way out of this....

Since it appears Trump refuses to just pack up and leave....I could see them using WMD on Kharg Island, or perhaps pick axe mountain...

But, I guess only time will tell
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I'm not buying what Joe Kent is selling. It's no accident he suddenly changed his tune and began hammering the administration on crazy Alt-right platforms like Tucker and Candace.

We could devastate Kharg island in a conventional strike. Perhaps Pickaxe Mountain would require a special deep nuclear penetrator.... but this idea of choking them out with a naval blockade and heavy economic sanctions seems to be making progress with the least amount of bloodshed.

Why do all these podcast-pundits instead choose to imagine only the worst case, in every case?!?!?!
 
BamBam54 said:
I'm not buying what Joe Kent is selling. It's no accident he suddenly changed his tune and began hammering the administration on crazy Alt-right platforms like Tucker and Candace.

We could devastate Kharg island in a conventional strike. Perhaps Pickaxe Mountain would require a special deep nuclear penetrator.... but this idea of choking them out with a naval blockade and heavy economic sanctions seems to be making progress with the least amount of bloodshed.

Why do all these podcast-pundits instead choose to imagine only the worst case, in every case?!?!?!
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The guy who watching FOX as his personal bible and regurgitates anything Popular Mechanics explains how Building 7 gets pulverized from candlestick fires attempts to delegitimize Tucker by labeling him "Alt-right" LMFAO
 
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