8-10 Week Shred

[jtgoshaff]

Good day everyone,
I am going to post this log to document my next cut for a fitness competition and for me to continue to work on getting shredded. I received some advice from several people so far and am starting to incorporate it into my training regimen. Below is my training info and food intake info. If you have any advice or pointers, I am completely open to it. I am going to shoot for 10K steps each day. I usually average 7-8k daily as I sit at a desk for work.

Training (Tracked using RP Hypertrophy app)
My current gym routine is
Sunday Back and Biceps
Monday Off but going to start doing fasted cardio
Tuesday Chest and Triceps
Wednesday Walking and Kickboxing class
Thursday Legs
Friday Shoulders, traps, abs
Saturday Fasted cardio Kickboxing class

Nutrition (Tracked using Macrofactor)
So for my diet this is what I have currently or what an average day of eating looks like. My expenditure is between 2600-2800/day. My breakfast, snack and lunch are usually the same throughout the week but dinner changes up.

Yesterday 2173 calories 203 Protein, 61 Fat 209 Carbs Macrofactor goal 2250 216P 49 F 233 C
Morning- Protein Shake, Chobani Zero Sugar yogurt, coffee
Preworkout- Fruit Usually banana, Rice cake
Post Workout/Lunch- meal prep - chicken protein pasta this week
Snack- Turkey Jerky stick, chobani zero sugar yogurt, second protein shake (Not necessarily all 3)
Dinner - Need to work on this, I eat with the family, and we go out to eat kind of often. So I tend to make some bad choices or eat in excess some of the times. Yesterday I ate a salad, two ribs, some pulled chicken and a fruit cup. Did decent here by picking healthier sides.

Weight (Tracked using Renpho Smart Scale)
4/15 205.0 17.1% Body Fat

Supplements
SNS Multi, Prime XT, Creatine HCL, Thermagize XT, Alpha Yohimbe and Yohimbe 2.5 ( I have not decided how I will incorporate the Yohimbe yet) Fasted cardio and maybe pre workout.
CEL Anabolic Effect, Alpha One
Fish Oil 4G Daily
DIM 400mg
Vitamin D 4,000 IU
Musclean 7 Keto
MetRx ZMA
XPG L-Carnitine

Additional stuff
Enclomiphene 25mg
Taladafil 5mg
Possibly L-Carnitine and SLUP332

Todays workout
Rear Delt flyes
80 x 15
95 *12,13

Arnold Press
35s X 8, 8 Felt some pain in these so only did 2 sets and lighter weight

Dumbell Lat Raises
20 X 15,15,13

Machine Shoulder Press
110 X 12, 15
130 x 12,12

Barbell Upright Row Usually do these on the smith machine but they were all taken so I used a straight bar
60 x 15, 15, 13

Dumbell Shrugs Not sure I feel like these are that useful so I may swap them out
65 X 10, 10

Machine Ab Crunch Felt an awesome burn after the first set of these.
160 X 25, 18, 18

 

[jtgoshaff]

I am going to post some photos here also. Current Renpho Stats and starting weight photos. These are non-flexed of course. Weight was recorded yesterday post sauna session.

 

[Hyde]

Following along.

If using DBs, do Kelso Shrugs so you can get an effective stimulus. You need to use a barbell/Smith for enough load on regular shrugs, which take much more weight to not waste your time.

 

[Dustin07]

remind me what your fitness comp is. is it like a general recomp test or is it an event like xfit style?

Training (Tracked using RP Hypertrophy app)
My current gym routine is
Sunday Back and Biceps
Monday Off but going to start doing fasted cardio
Tuesday Chest and Triceps
Wednesday Walking and Kickboxing class
Thursday Legs
Friday Shoulders, traps, abs

I'm trying to remember but I think this is very similar to Jay Cutlers old split and I was running similar for a long time. Only thing I've really changed myself is I'm not doing triceps and biceps on my push/pull days. I'm currently doing a straight arms day instead. I have no opinion to as whether one split is better than the other tbh. Having a dedicated arms day is nice cause it feels relaxing, but a catch 22 cause it also feels lazy.

Barbell Upright Row Usually do these on the smith machine but they were all taken so I used a straight bar
60 x 15, 15, 13

I love these, such a burner.

Dumbell Shrugs Not sure I feel like these are that useful so I may swap them out
65 X 10, 10

I'm same way, I get more from heavy barbell shrugs, or hammer strength machine shrugs, or hanging power cleans.

 

[Smont]

Plan ahead when your having takeout or eating a meal you wouldn't normally eat on a diet. If I only have 2000 calories for the day, and my girl wanted to go out to dinner, I'd skip breakfast and just have coffee, id eat a high protein lunch with leafy greens or whatever you want that's large in volume but low in calories. And I'd make sure I saved 1000-1200 for dinner. I'm not big on intermittent fasting when it comes to creating the best body composition possible, but it definitely will help you hit your calorie goals, so that could be another option on a night where you're going to have take out or some kind of big meal.

You can also just prep a bunch of chicken breast 1-2x week and eat chicken and veggies while the rest of your family eats their Pizza and ice cream. I mean personally I'm going to have the pizza and ice cream because my willpower is not good enough but I'm just saying lol

 

[Hyde]

Plan ahead when your having takeout or eating a meal you wouldn't normally eat on a diet. If I only have 2000 calories for the day, and my girl wanted to go out to dinner, I'd skip breakfast and just have coffee, id eat a high protein lunch with leafy greens or whatever you want that's large in volume but low in calories. And I'd make sure I saved 1000-1200 for dinner. I'm not big on intermittent fasting when it comes to creating the best body composition possible, but it definitely will help you hit your calorie goals, so that could be another option on a night where you're going to have take out or some kind of big meal.

You can also just prep a bunch of chicken breast 1-2x week and eat chicken and veggies while the rest of your family eats their Pizza and ice cream. I mean personally I'm going to have the pizza and ice cream because my willpower is not good enough but I'm just saying lol

This is really the secret here. As a dad, I understood early it was my first priority to not let my goals interfere with my family’s happiness. But the equally important aspect that’s necessary to achieve your goals, is that you also can’t let the family time be an excuse.

At any restaurant, you get to decide what you put in your mouth - or don’t. You can save some calories for the meal, avoid certain items others are eating, or spend a bit more to get something boring that supports your goal. Don’t worry about perfection - just be creative & do your best.

Or just fast. Have a water, coffee, diet soda, and just be present & try to engage happily - you want them to enjoy their experience and believe you are as well. That last part is a decision.

Even many fast food places, you can get a grilled chicken sandwich and throw away the bun. Get a cup of chili or salad and use almost no dressing. Toss the buns from a double hamburger, etc to shave calories if you didn’t save them for the meal. And when at regular restaurants, you can really often order whatever, or at least ask. If they have to bring you certain sides, you don’t have to eat them - give them to family or throw them away.

But realize that just because everyone is having pancakes and biscuits & gravy or crepes stuffed with cream cheese, you can always just ask for a few eggs and a side of turkey sausage. Or just have a coffee and be patient for when you can eat closer to plan.

 

[Smont]

Chic filet has grilled nuggets now, there grilled chicken sandwich is under 400 calories and has about 30 g of protein.

At Wendy's, a double stack with no bun with a order of chili Is 540 cal and 42gm protein. Add A plain baked potato to make it 800 cal and 50+gm protein

Chipotle has a high protein high fiber bowl that's 600 calories and 48 g of protein. (It depends on what meat you order)

When you like to eat junk food as much as I do, you find a way to make it work .

 

[Smont]

Anything from Subway with double meat is probably going to be okay as long as you don't smother it with dressings

 

[Smont]

Dont worry, I'm here for you

 

[jtgoshaff]

remind me what your fitness comp is. is it like a general recomp test or is it an event like xfit style?

This is Bucked up fitness competition. They look at overall transformation based off submission photos, weight and measurements. I have done several over the past two years and placed top 15 in 3 or 4 but never high enough to win prizes. Goal is to get a top 10 at least once.

 

[jtgoshaff]

Plan ahead when your having takeout or eating a meal you wouldn't normally eat on a diet. If I only have 2000 calories for the day, and my girl wanted to go out to dinner, I'd skip breakfast and just have coffee, id eat a high protein lunch with leafy greens or whatever you want that's large in volume but low in calories. And I'd make sure I saved 1000-1200 for dinner. I'm not big on intermittent fasting when it comes to creating the best body composition possible, but it definitely will help you hit your calorie goals, so that could be another option on a night where you're going to have take out or some kind of big meal.

You can also just prep a bunch of chicken breast 1-2x week and eat chicken and veggies while the rest of your family eats their Pizza and ice cream. I mean personally I'm going to have the pizza and ice cream because my willpower is not good enough but I'm just saying lol

I usually meal prep chicken or lean ground beef for taco bowls but I am with you on will power. I can skip the pizza but usually have to sneak a few bites of ice cream in.

I have been choosing healthier options when going out to eat. Grilled chicken club wrapped in lettuce with a fruit bowl. Omelet and fruit for breakfast instead of potatoes. Oh and I love chipotle double protein bowls. I usually go by there once or twice a week since the macros aren't too bad.

Mexican is my weakness. Chips and dip and queso is what I need to stay away from when the family goes there. I can get a grilled chicken southwest salad and use salsa for dressing to eat healthy but tend to blow it on the chips and dip.

So this past weekend I was able to try out the new supps.

Thermagize XT- Excellent energy boost and a bit of focus it seems.
Alpha Yohimbe 1.5- Didn't notice any negative side effects. Felt a little increase in energy
Yohimbe 2.5- Took preworkout yesterday and had some increased heart rate and felt like my body temp was a bit higher than usually. No issues with it though. Going to figure out how to dose these synergistically now.
7-Keto Musclean- I have noticed I feel hungrier a bit sooner since starting this. It has not derailed the diet or anything just a feeling of hunger, maybe burning fat faster? idk

Sunday's workout

I usually start out with less sets when starting a new routine with back. I have went too hard in the past and injured myself so only two sets for some of these. They will increase as the weeks progress.

Deadlift-Have not done these in a while so starting somewhat light and using the smith machine
155 X 10
210 X 10
255 X 9,9

Lat Pulldown- Different machine than usual weight felt much heavier
120 X 12, 12

Assisted Pull ups
30lb X 8,8

Bent over Row
135 X 10,12

Seated Cable Row
150 X 15
165 X 18
180 X 15

Machine Preacher Curl
90 X 15
100 X 12, 9

Concentration Curl
35 X 12, 14, 14

2 arm alternating dumbell curl
35 X 14, 15, 14

Kickboxing class was cancelled Saturday but I did hit my step goal. Carnitine gel comes in Wednesday so I will be looking forward to trying that out.

 

[SalvationLabs]

Good day everyone,
I am going to post this log to document my next cut for a fitness competition and for me to continue to work on getting shredded. I received some advice from several people so far and am starting to incorporate it into my training regimen. Below is my training info and food intake info. If you have any advice or pointers, I am completely open to it. I am going to shoot for 10K steps each day. I usually average 7-8k daily as I sit at a desk for work.

Training (Tracked using RP Hypertrophy app)
My current gym routine is
Sunday Back and Biceps
Monday Off but going to start doing fasted cardio
Tuesday Chest and Triceps
Wednesday Walking and Kickboxing class
Thursday Legs
Friday Shoulders, traps, abs
Saturday Fasted cardio Kickboxing class

Nutrition (Tracked using Macrofactor)
So for my diet this is what I have currently or what an average day of eating looks like. My expenditure is between 2600-2800/day. My breakfast, snack and lunch are usually the same throughout the week but dinner changes up.

Yesterday 2173 calories 203 Protein, 61 Fat 209 Carbs Macrofactor goal 2250 216P 49 F 233 C
Morning- Protein Shake, Chobani Zero Sugar yogurt, coffee
Preworkout- Fruit Usually banana, Rice cake
Post Workout/Lunch- meal prep - chicken protein pasta this week
Snack- Turkey Jerky stick, chobani zero sugar yogurt, second protein shake (Not necessarily all 3)
Dinner - Need to work on this, I eat with the family, and we go out to eat kind of often. So I tend to make some bad choices or eat in excess some of the times. Yesterday I ate a salad, two ribs, some pulled chicken and a fruit cup. Did decent here by picking healthier sides.

Weight (Tracked using Renpho Smart Scale)
4/15 205.0 17.1% Body Fat

Supplements
SNS Multi, Prime XT, Creatine HCL, Thermagize XT, Alpha Yohimbe and Yohimbe 2.5 ( I have not decided how I will incorporate the Yohimbe yet) Fasted cardio and maybe pre workout.
CEL Anabolic Effect, Alpha One
Fish Oil 4G Daily
DIM 400mg
Vitamin D 4,000 IU
Musclean 7 Keto
MetRx ZMA
XPG L-Carnitine

Additional stuff
Enclomiphene 25mg
Taladafil 5mg
Possibly L-Carnitine and SLUP332

Todays workout
Rear Delt flyes
80 x 15
95 *12,13

Arnold Press
35s X 8, 8 Felt some pain in these so only did 2 sets and lighter weight

Dumbell Lat Raises
20 X 15,15,13

Machine Shoulder Press
110 X 12, 15
130 x 12,12

Barbell Upright Row Usually do these on the smith machine but they were all taken so I used a straight bar
60 x 15, 15, 13

Dumbell Shrugs Not sure I feel like these are that useful so I may swap them out
65 X 10, 10

Machine Ab Crunch Felt an awesome burn after the first set of these.
160 X 25, 18, 18

Very detailed! Awesome log!

 

[Dustin07]

the guys are right and Hyde's comments remind me of a number of times I've been at the bar with friends ordering an ice tea or diet coke because I'm fasting etc. not a big deal and doesn't impact the social atmosphere tbh, plus you feel a lot better after!

 

[Dustin07]

exican is my weakness. Chips and dip and queso is what I need to stay away from when the family goes there. I can get a grilled chicken southwest salad and use salsa for dressing to eat healthy but tend to blow it on the chips and dip.

honestly me too. when my wife comes home from the grocery store with a bag of corn chips I know she loves me, lol. we LOVE Mexican, but tend to avoid it intentionally because of the free chips, haha.

 

[jtgoshaff]

Chest and Triceps today on an empty stomach. Post workout chipotle hit the spot though!

Bench Press Narrow Grip
115 X 12,12
165 X 10
205 X 3 felt some shoulder pain so backed down
165 X 10

Dumbell Hex Press
50s X 12,12,10,7

Pec Dec Flyes
80 X 15
120 X 12, 12, 10

Supine Press
200 X 10, 10, 9

Cable Tricep pushdown
45 X 15
65 X 13, 12

Dumbell Overhead Extension
45 X 12, 12, 15

Cable overhead Extension - Different machine then week before. Had to lower the weight
65 X 12, 8, 11

Feeling a little pain in the shoulder after this workout and definitely noticed working out hungry killed some of my strength. I got a double chicken protein bowl from chipotle to feed the muscles after this workout.

 

[Dustin07]

I got a double chicken protein bowl from chipotle

that thing has surprisingly solid macros.

 

[jtgoshaff]

Cut is going well guys. The competition started on April 12th and I was 207. Now down to 198 but a few of those pounds I contribute to extra water weight. The lowest I have been in over 20 years is 194 so hoping to overcome that plateau and get down to 185 or less and low body fat like 14% or less. I am ready to see the muscles popping for the hard work over the past 4 or 5 years. Started the Carnitine gel yesterday before kickboxing and definitely saw some increased endurance. Once we got to the end of our routine and started tabatas I still had enough energy to go full blast almost the entire time. I feel the icy hot tingles too and the fat melting off the stomach and love handles from the gel (or at least that's what I am going to imagine is happening). Thanks for the suggestion @Dustin07 . Also the alpha yohimbe and thermagize xt seems to be working well too. I am only taking the 1.5mg pill twice a day as that was what is listed on the bottle along with thermagize twice a day @Hyde Should I stick with that dosing and skip the 2.5mg yohimbe hcl for now? Are there any potential benefits to increasing the Alpha Yohimbe or taking both forms of it?

Did legs today.

Barbell Squat-Planned in the routine but skipping for now

Hack Squat
195 X 10
285 X 10
375 X 10

Leg Press
440 X 12, 11, 11

Leg Press Calves
440 X 20 I did this set right after the leg press set, the other ones I rested before doing
440 X 35
440 X 35

Seated Calf Raises
115 X 25
165 X 15, 13

Lying Leg Curl
150 X 13
155 X 10, 10

Leg Extension
135 X 13, 10, 11

Dumbell Stiff leg deadlift
60s X 13, 11, 10

 

[Dustin07]

Great start man! I am the same way with scale numbers even though I do log my highest high and lowest low, I fully admit that my highest high is probably holding a few lbs of water and my lowest low is dehydrated. my run in 2026 so far went from 205 to 183. Reality? probably say 202 to 188 (my avg this week is 187-189). so 183 was likely very dehydrated, 205 was probably post mexican induced sodium loading lol.

The competition started on April 12th and I was 207. Now down to 198 but a few of those pounds I contribute to extra water weight. The lowest I have been in over 20 years is 194

Whats great is you've identified that platuea and created a solid target to help build your enthusiasm to break through it this time. 190 was mine and when I kept hitting it I felt a little more vigor to finally break through. now what was the bottom that I couldn't break through, has become a ceiling I have been able to stay under.

Once we got to the end of our routine and started tabatas I still had enough energy to go full blast almost the entire time. I feel the icy hot tingles too and the fat melting off the stomach and love handles from the gel (or at least that's what I am going to imagine is happening). Thanks for the suggestion @Dustin07 .

undoubetedly its bro science but I'll take a placebo, I do feel like its giving me an extra 1% of benefit applying it there somehow!

 

[Hyde]

IF you tolerate it fine, adding some of the Yohimbine HCL in as well will technically net a better effect. More total mg and synergy between stacking the 2 forms technically.

But the big caveat here is that you have to feel good enough to have the same output of activity - if it makes your heart pound such that you lose endurance, it will be a net negative if you have to slow down because it’s running you too hard. You will either feel alright or not, and you should be able to tell after the first dose. I’d try it away from training first to make sure you believe it will be fine when lifting. Some people can use big doses of Y HCL no problem and love it. I can’t touch it.

 

[jtgoshaff]

Alright got a little off track this weekend but still down a bit. 197.8 This morning before water and food.

Fridays workout was cut short because I had to get the kids from school. My wife also went out of town so it was just me and my son for the weekend so we indulged in some good food and fun. Steak and potatoes Friday evening, haricuts and chic fila Saturday morning, and some Dave and Busters too. I missed my kickboxing class and Sunday workout but got about 2500-3000 extra steps in each day. I was a bit surprised when I did my weekly vitamins and found out I was about out of the first bottle of musclean. Apparently, it is a 15-day bottle and not 30. I'm going to order 2 more soon.

Friday
Rear Delt Flyes
82.5 X 15
100 X 15, 12

Arnold Press
35 X 15,15,15

Dumbell Lateral Raises
20 X 16, 15, 16

Machine Shoulder Press
112.5 X 15
130 X 14,15

Smith Upright Row
25 X 15
75, 15,13,13

Machine Ab Crunch
165 X 25, 18,18

Monday
Lat Pulldown
125 X 10
165 X 12,12

Assisted Pullup
30 X 9, 8, 8

Bent over row-Skipped
Seated Cable Row
155X 15
175 X 18, 18
Machine Preacher Curl
80 X 12
110 X 13, 11
Concentration curl
35 X 15, 15, 13

Alternating Dumbell curl
40 X 12, 12, 12

Today's workout

Bench press narrow
115 X 12,10
170 X 10
195 X 8

hex Press - Skipped

Pec Dec Flyes
90 X 12
140 X 10, 10
120 X 10

Supine Press- Still having some shoulder pain with heavier weight
200 X 12
250 X 8, 4
200 X 6

Cable Tricep Pushdown
45 X 12
65 X 12, 13

Machine Dip
140 X 20
175 X 17, 15

Overhead Trcep Extension
65 X 15, 12, 12

Awesome Tricep pump today.

Stats from Macrofactor for the week, Weight stats and lunch meal prep for the week. Homemade chipotle chicken, fajita veggies, rice and cheese.

 

[Dustin07]

On a cut I always say the progress is made on the weekend lol. Mon - Fri is cruise control, but weekends are 100% discipline and planning...

 

[jtgoshaff]

On a cut I always say the progress is made on the weekend lol. Mon - Fri is cruise control, but weekends are 100% discipline and planning...

Yeah I am definitely going to work on better planning from here on out. Goal will be to figure out meals on Thursday so I don't go crazy on the weekends with steak, potatoes, hamburgers, etc.

 

[Dustin07]

Yeah I am definitely going to work on better planning from here on out. Goal will be to figure out meals on Thursday so I don't go crazy on the weekends with steak, potatoes, hamburgers, etc.

my wife and I do meal prep together every sunday year round whether its a cut or a bulk. the only real difference is I typically increase carb intake or add a meal during a bulk. When on a cut that meal prep becomes twice as important. Our weekend hack has always been that our refeed meal is a date usually on Saturday night. so if we wake up saturday, have our coffee, live our normal life and have healthy breakfast/lunch within our macros (or even fast until dinner) then dinner is like a steak and potatoes and an adult beverage. Sundays it tends to be easier for me because I'll do MOSTLY the same thing with a carb loaded breakfast, hit the gym between 11am and 1pm usually, then its like grocery shopping, house work, mow the lawn, meal prep and a pretty based macro centric meal that is home cooked, enjoyable, but not excessive in fats and carbs.... if that all makes sense.

idk its just a routine we've fallen into that works really well for us. My biggest goal for 2026 is probably to develop enough consistency in our lifestyle habits that "cutting" or "maintenance" doesn't feel like a lot of hard work. I like cruise control and I want to be able to enjoy this ride rather than always making it harder than it needs to be.

 

[jtgoshaff]

Still chugging along on the cut. I hit 192.6 yesterday and still at 193.6 today. Total of 14lbs down since April 12th. Goal is to hit 185 and have abs. This is the lowest weight I have been since early high school and the best I have done on one of these competitions, so I am looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Motivation at the gym has been somewhat lacking but I am still pushing through the workouts.
I did get the injectable carnitine and a refill on the taladafil yesterday. So maybe a nice pump and some added energy will help out. I am thinking of trying the carnitine sub q instead of IM to start with. Open to any suggestions there since I have never used the injectable version. Also, Should I discontinue the TD gel for now if I am going to be using injectable?

Progress photos due on the 10th so I will post those soon.

 

[Smont]

Still chugging along on the cut. I hit 192.6 yesterday and still at 193.6 today. Total of 14lbs down since April 12th. Goal is to hit 185 and have abs. This is the lowest weight I have been since early high school and the best I have done on one of these competitions, so I am looking forward to the next 4 weeks.

Motivation at the gym has been somewhat lacking but I am still pushing through the workouts.
I did get the injectable carnitine and a refill on the taladafil yesterday. So maybe a nice pump and some added energy will help out. I am thinking of trying the carnitine sub q instead of IM to start with. Open to any suggestions there since I have never used the injectable version. Also, Should I discontinue the TD gel for now if I am going to be using injectable?

Progress photos due on the 10th so I will post those soon.

Just a heads up, sub q carnatine hurts like a bitch, even small amounts burn. IM can cause pip as well, but sub q is significantly more painful with carnatine. The higher the concentration of the product the more it's going to burn. IM for .e is 10x more tolerable and often pain free

 

[jtgoshaff]

Just a heads up, sub q carnatine hurts like a bitch, even small amounts burn. IM can cause pip as well, but sub q is significantly more painful with carnatine. The higher the concentration of the product the more it's going to burn. IM for .e is 10x more tolerable and often pain free

Yup experienced that this weekend. I did sub q twice and both times were painful, especially in the stomach. I also only did 50iu so half dose. I am going to have to watch some videos on IM, the needles they sent are intimidating. Where do you usually inject IM for carnitine?

I did feel a boost from it though even at half the dose, so I'm looking forward to continuing it.

 

[Smont]

Yup experienced that this weekend. I did sub q twice and both times were painful, especially in the stomach. I also only did 50iu so half dose. I am going to have to watch some videos on IM, the needles they sent are intimidating. Where do you usually inject IM for carnitine?

I did feel a boost from it though even at half the dose, so I'm looking forward to continuing it.

50iu? That doesn't really tell us anything, 50mg? That would be pretty low. 300mg/day is a good start if using it for fat loss and energy

 

[Hyde]

What are the size of the needles they sent? There will be a length (1/2” for example) as well as gauge size (smaller number means thicker, so 25 is a standard IM needle for a 3cc syringe while 31 is smallest insulin syringe).

Always put carnitine IM. A sharp fresh needle does not hurt going into muscle; it slips right in as if it was jelly. Sometimes if there’s a moment before the skin breaks you will feel a pinch, but only just. Which is same as subq.

 

[jtgoshaff]

50iu? That doesn't really tell us anything, 50mg? That would be pretty low. 300mg/day is a good start if using it for fat loss and energy

250mg is what I used. It is 500mg/ml. The needles are 1inch 23G

 

[Hyde]

250mg is what I used. It is 500mg/ml. The needles are 1inch 23G

Jeez bro you could use a 23g as a draw needle if you had to! Don’t pin with that. That’s only ideal for a very high volume shot. I can pin 3cc of oil alright with a 25g even.

Get some EZTouch 1/2” 27 or 28g slinpins.

 

[jtgoshaff]

Tried it today and it wasn't pleasant. It did slide right in and felt good or not painful about halfway in and then I think I pushed it in too far. Hurt a bit but got a full dose. I did my left thigh as it seemed easiest location from what I found online. I am going to buy some of those smaller, shorter ones to use for next time and get rid of these for sure.

 

[Hyde]

Tried it today and it wasn't pleasant. It did slide right in and felt good or not painful about halfway in and then I think I pushed it in too far. Hurt a bit but got a full dose. I did my left thigh as it seemed easiest location from what I found online. I am going to buy some of those smaller, shorter ones to use for next time and get rid of these for sure.

I told you not to for a reason. I seriously would never use those again. I’ve never injected with a 23g in the 6+ years I’ve been pinning. If they’re not luer lock where you can twist them off and switch them after drawing up, I’d just throw them away.

Used a 28g to administer 1ml/500mg to my right ventroglute before I walked out the door to the gym this morning; can’t even feel it.

 

[Smont]

I told you not to for a reason. I seriously would never use those again. I’ve never injected with a 23g in the 6+ years I’ve been pinning. If they’re not luer lock where you can twist them off and switch them after drawing up, I’d just throw them away.

Used a 28g to administer 1ml/500mg to my right ventroglute before I walked out the door to the gym this morning; can’t even feel it.

No homo, but could you dm or in my thread show me where to pin the V-glute, my glutes need a break lol. Ive switched mostly to delts, quads and I'd like to have a third spot but the ventral glute I've never been able to take a shot because it just doesn't seem like a good area to me. Except I know people who put 5 ml in there no problem so I gotta be looking at the wrong location