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Any advice or insteuctions on an enclomiphene cycle? I seem some people advise to stack with arimahex?

Serms aren't something you "cycle", they're used for post cycle therapy, you can use it for fertility, you can run a course to try to shrink some gyno, some people use it for hormone replacement therapy which isn't the greatest idea, What are you trying to accomplish, or what are your goals is maybe a better question?

Are we trying to optimize hormones, or are we trying to run a cycle and build muscle?
 
Chanjonathan75 said:
I want to improve hormones and overall health. I need to recomp and get healthier for my job. Right now Im three days in to 6 mg orforglipron and 500 mcg slu pp 332 that I got from Nexxgenpeptides which apparently no one the world has never heard of but I can say I was suffering from a Compulsive rating problem and I havent not been hungry since I started taking the orforglipron. I just ordered arimahex from apex. And i already have enclo just dont know what I should do.
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What's your blood work look like? You said you want to improve your hormones, what hormones are we trying to improve because that's kind of going to determine whether or not you're going to gain any benefits from the enclomphine.

If your testosterone is low, enclomphine will raise it, but your body's own ability to make testosterone will determine what happens after you stop.


Trying to think of how to explain this.....

If you have low testosterone, enclomphine is capable of bringing it up to the upper range, but depending on your own ability to make testosterone, once you discontinue the enclomphine, if you're not capable of maintaining it on your own, then those numbers are going to go right back down. And spending four six or eight weeks with your testosterone levels in a normal range isn't going to do anything significant for you So if you want to improve your hormones and your overall health you should probably address that first and you're going to need to get blood work done. I guess what I'm getting at is it's not just something you use because you have it on hand, there's only very specific scenarios that you want to use serms. So make sure you're actually falling into one of those scenarios and you're not just using it because you have it.

I also think I saw you make a post in another thread asking about gyno from enclomphine? Serms don't cause gyno, but they can help reverse gyno!


If you're concerned is optimizing your health and your hormones,

Your total testosterone, free testosterone, LH, FSH, e2, thyroid. These would be the numbers you want to see on your blood work for hormones.

For health you would probably also want a lipid panel, fasted glucose and HbA1c, possibly cmp for your liver and kidneys.

And if this is all Way beyond what you were looking to do then you can just ignore me 😂.

On the flip side, if your not going to do blood work and your just looking to do the things that are generally going to make you healthier and improve your hormones. There's still lots of good ways to go about it. I've worked with a lot of weight loss clients over the years and I can absolutely tell you that when you take a person who has been dealing with being overweight and minor health issues, that just losing weight through exercise seems to dramatically improve their health markers, fixing up the diet and loosing body fat seems to usually bring up testosterone and lower estrogen.

Glp1 is in place so that should cover your glucose levels. This should eliminate the need for something like metformin or berberine/gda.

SLU I used for about 7 months straight? I didn't seem to notice a big difference between 500mcg and 1500mcg. There's some evidence that shows SLU might actually work better if you take it 4-5x week 30min pre workout and not just constantly take it day in and out

Mitoburn is a great non stimulant fat loss product

Ursolic acid is another stim free fat loss product I like (I think I saw someone suggest that to you and another thread)

And if your not stimulant sensitive then add any "fat burner" of your choosing.

Fat loss stack that may suit your goals

Glp1 or gda
SLU
Mitoburn
Ursolic acid
"Stimulant Fat burner of your choice"
 
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xR1pp3Rx said:
I answered you question specifically in the other thread you asked this in.
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I'm just realizing there's a couple threads with similar questions from the same person. This is what happens when someone is trying to speed run learning about 15 things and start them at the same time lol.

No offense to the OP, were trying to help you out
 
no one is agitated. I just gave you my response and as always Smonts responses are well thought out and articulated good for layman's. Take what you will from either of us. No one is going to get mad for anything you chose to do! Especially asking multiple people. That said, it's always best to contain your threads for ease of use and also for those of us following along to not get lost in other threads. And then you wont have people answering the same thing twice etc.. etc..
 
A lot of people run enclo dosing it EOD (Every other day). I've run it 6mg every day, and it felt like the equivalent of 200mg test

The last time I tried even running it every other day and had crazy lethargy. Unless you're looking for legit anabolic results, you honestly can get great results with something like CEL M-Test that's natural and a great sleep supplement. I've taken athletes from around a 250-300 test level to 850 or so naturally with CEL M-Test and other SNS/CEL supplements, far better sleep hygiene and quality.
 
RD929 said:
A lot of people run enclo dosing it EOD (Every other day). I've run it 6mg every day, and it felt like the equivalent of 200mg test

The last time I tried even running it every other day and had crazy lethargy. Unless you're looking for legit anabolic results, you honestly can get great results with something like CEL M-Test that's natural and a great sleep supplement. I've taken athletes from around a 250-300 test level to 850 or so naturally with CEL M-Test and other SNS/CEL supplements, far better sleep hygiene and quality.
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Post the blood work for those mtest ones in one of Steve's threeds, He will love that! I don't know if he has any specific ones for m test right this moment, but he would definitely like to see those. As far as enclo goes. I've seen lots of ppl with low T double and triple their testosterone levels, but enclomphine, and serms in general, they don't have any direct anabolic effects or Anabolic properties and they don't directly cause protein synthesis or bind to any androgen receptors. The only anabolic effect you're going to get is from your own testosterone levels once the enclo has done its job
 
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