Donald Trump running for president
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beefyfan
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I vote the other side although going forward, I may find myself not voting in certain races. That said, appreciate your honesty.
GreenMachineX
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At this point, who isn’t owned by someone?
Smont
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From my understanding, there's over 3 million Epstein files and several people are mentioned repeatedly in them. One of the things that appears to make trump look not involved in many ways is that Epstein seemed to not actually like Trump and calling trump evil and combative. I'm not supporting anyone in this Epstein **** because it's all gross and crazy. But for Epstein to be the way he was, and him to say Trump's evil and combative, it sounds like he didn't want to follow suit in Epsteins game. That's my speculation. At the end of the day, anyone who gets caught diddling children, I hope they get there hands, eyes and genitals removed!
manifesto
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Its always Israel
ax1
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manifesto
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Epstein appears to be the Devil incarnate...so for him to say Trump is evil...thats a scary thought...
Trump is mentioned several times in regards to 13 year old girls....in the file....and he is accused of hitting an underage girl for biting him during oral sex.. .its in the files
And the fact he got annoyed when someone asked about the files and said it was a "hoax" which it obviously isn't. This is alarming.
And, hes attacking the congress people, pushing for the information to be let out. Also very strange...why wouldn't you want pedophiles dealt with if you had nothing to do with it?
manifesto
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And for anyone saying "The Dems didnt do anything when they had the chance" or "They would have got Trump if they had anything on him"
No, this is wrong. The Dems are all throughout the files...so they would be ratting themselves out if they released the files.....
This is obvious....
No, this is wrong. The Dems are all throughout the files...so they would be ratting themselves out if they released the files.....
This is obvious....
BamBam54
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Anything can be IN the files. People say crazy **** about Trump everyday.
I care more about whether it's true.
Wonder what will come of the Clinton's testimony at the congressional hearings. I would think Clinton is far more familiar with Epstein perv-island than Trump (who NEVER actually went to the island)
Why don't the women just name who bad-touched them today, in front of the lights and cameras??? Everyone in the world is finally listening. And they suddenly got very quiet.....
I care more about whether it's true.
Wonder what will come of the Clinton's testimony at the congressional hearings. I would think Clinton is far more familiar with Epstein perv-island than Trump (who NEVER actually went to the island)
Why don't the women just name who bad-touched them today, in front of the lights and cameras??? Everyone in the world is finally listening. And they suddenly got very quiet.....
manifesto
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The last female who spoke up ended up dead....Virginia
And, Trump never went to the island, correct, but plenty of sexual abuse took place at Epsteins Manhattan residence....A LOT
BamBam54
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Lots of people end up dead. About 250,000 every month in the US. And like we learned during the covid scam, not all of them point to the boogeyman.
Sure, lots of deviant **** happened at Epsteins NY place, too. But its a VERY different thing to say someone knew Epstein, to someone went to his address for a party, to that being a sex party with legal age women (17yrs old in NY), to someone participated with pedophile underage young girls. Big accusations require actual proof. How do we get there from here?????
Do we REALLY know Trump ever went to Epsteins Manhatten Residence? And under which category listed above? Literally anyone can make that claim. But was it legally investigated and supported by verifiable fact as true??
Remember also that Virginia accused Alan Dershowitz, and he was able to prove with evidence that she lied until she dropped her allegations and admitted "she may have made a mistake". Yeah, ooooops!!
Hence the reason I think they were reluctant to release all the files, as it's impossible to immediately tell what is fiction, what is heresay, and what is legit and legally prosecutable.
manifesto
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I dont like witch hunts, but im not ok with the president being friends with a known pedophile for YEARS....and then trying to stop the release of the files lmao
What's that about?
BamBam54
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BamBam54
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Just don't fall for the hype. And do a little basic research before flying off the handle. There is a YUGE difference between creepy and criminal....
See? I am here for you, too.
manifesto
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Yeah, I get it...im just alarmed by how close they were. We will just to wait and see what happens, I guessJust don't fall for the hype. And do a little basic research before flying off the handle. There is a YUGE difference between creepy and criminal....
See? I am here for you, too.
manifesto
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Crazy...and CA is 18 lmao
Smont
Legend
Really!
Smont
Legend
Age of consent doesn't necessarily mean legal, in Connecticut 16 is the age of consent. So if you're 57 and you have a 16 year old girlfriend and her and her parents are okay with it it's not illegal in the state of Connecticut. And yes, I know that's gross. In some countries consent is 13, like the idea of that in my head makes me angry, some f****** sick f*** touching a 13-year-old
BamBam54
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I'm with ya. I hope the truly guilty get serious prison time!! AND I hope anyone wrongly accused gets a huge lawsuit and payday. Can't forget that second part....
Megyn Kelly has a pretty good take on this that probably makes the most sense. Perhaps Epstein and Maxwell were the only actual 'pedophile's. Epstein may have lost interest when the girls became of legal age, and THEN shared them in sex parties with friends. It may be that the famous friends were not breaking any actual laws. Epstein is dead, and Maxwell is in jail. Might not be anywhere further the DOJ can take this... which perhaps explains why they didn't.
I would have thought it was illegal for the President to stick a cigar inside a young intern on the desk of the Oval Office. But apparently that isn't illegal either. No actual crime other than ruining a perfectly good cigar!
sammpedd88
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Well if you want to even feel more weird, in the state of NC the legal age of consent for sex is 16.
BamBam54
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Yeah, that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing is truely disgusting and partisan. LOLOLOLOL
BamBam54
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AX1, that post seems to raise more questions than answers.
If Noel saw Thomas lower Epstein to the floor, that means something was holding the dead guy up in the air. If not a noose, what WAS holding him up where he would then be physically lowered to the floor?
And if they were handling Epstein's dead body (noose or not) that conflicts with the other posts claiming he didn't die and was secretly taken away to Israel, etc.
ax1
Legend
I remember that video they released a while back was edited, but yeah we dont have answers thats the point and why I remain a skeptic. Im leaning on murder (dipshit criminals dont get "assasinated") than the he is still alive theory, unless he with 2PAC or something, but then 2PAC will take him out haha
BamBam54
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An example of the problems you will have with a mass release of legally unverified claims in the Epstein Files.
Skateboard Legend Tony Hawk now defending himself with clear and honest facts/names/dates....
sports.yahoo.com
Story with additional detail also at this link:
Skateboard Legend Tony Hawk now defending himself with clear and honest facts/names/dates....
Tony Hawk hits out at ‘narrative of nonsense’ that he got married on Epstein’s island
Skateboarding star denied that any of his weddings were held on the convicted sex offender’s private island despite being named in the latest files released by the DOJ
Story with additional detail also at this link:
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
I think it’s insane how large Epstein’s network was. Even in Scandinavia, media outlets are reporting stories about alleged connections involving the Norwegian crown princess, Swedish institutions that recieved his money, networks that supposedly sent photos to Epstein, and people who were paid to “hunt” for girls for him. Whether Trump was involved or not is hard to say. But it’s not difficult to imagine that a president has significant influence over what is revealed and what is not.
Still, the Epstein case is just one brick in the wall when it comes to Trump. The problem is that it’s hard to know where to begin or where to end. All the lies, the Greenland conflict, the claims about the Nobel Prize, the alleged FIFA peace prize, the false war-and-peace rhetoric, the perceived alignment with Putin in the Ukraine war (a war against Europe), threats toward NATO, statements about the war in Gaza and the passive stance against Israel, attempts to challenge the UN with alternative peace initiatives, ICE-related controversies, insults toward several female reporters, threats of tariffs if countries don’t play along, it just goes on and on.
What is really left to discuss? It feels like pure madness. Right now, it seems as though Europe is the main region standing up for the values of the free world. With Trump, America feels like a sinking ship. He doesn’t just make himself look bad, he makes Americans look bad. I genuinely hope he will make America great again, because with decreasing support from its closest allies, the U.S. will really need it. Good luck!
Still, the Epstein case is just one brick in the wall when it comes to Trump. The problem is that it’s hard to know where to begin or where to end. All the lies, the Greenland conflict, the claims about the Nobel Prize, the alleged FIFA peace prize, the false war-and-peace rhetoric, the perceived alignment with Putin in the Ukraine war (a war against Europe), threats toward NATO, statements about the war in Gaza and the passive stance against Israel, attempts to challenge the UN with alternative peace initiatives, ICE-related controversies, insults toward several female reporters, threats of tariffs if countries don’t play along, it just goes on and on.
What is really left to discuss? It feels like pure madness. Right now, it seems as though Europe is the main region standing up for the values of the free world. With Trump, America feels like a sinking ship. He doesn’t just make himself look bad, he makes Americans look bad. I genuinely hope he will make America great again, because with decreasing support from its closest allies, the U.S. will really need it. Good luck!