Recommendations for what short cycle I can run while on trt.

jmcg5291

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All my blood work is perfect. I'm currently on .50mg of testosterone cypionate every 3.5 days with 12.5mg clomiphene 1 day after injection. I'm not in any rush I was just curious if y'all had recommendations for what I could stack alongside my trt for a 4 or 8 week cycle to help with mass. I get blood work every 3 months and can get it whenever necessary. Also because I am on testosterone cypionate year round I do not need a pct correct? If I'm wrong please let me know I'm new to this. Also I will disclose whatever I end up doing with my doctor regardless. Thanks guys appreciate yall
 
jmcg5291 said:
All my blood work is perfect. I'm currently on .50mg of testosterone cypionate every 3.5 days with 12.5mg clomiphene 1 day after injection. I'm not in any rush I was just curious if y'all had recommendations for what I could stack alongside my trt for a 4 or 8 week cycle to help with mass. I get blood work every 3 months and can get it whenever necessary. Also because I am on testosterone cypionate year round I do not need a pct correct? If I'm wrong please let me know I'm new to this. Also I will disclose whatever I end up doing with my doctor regardless. Thanks guys appreciate yall
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Truthfully, if your training and diet are in order, the best first cycle is Test at 300 mg - 500 mg a week, for 12 weeks. So just inject 150 to 250 mg twice a week and that would be the best cycle for you. It’s better to know how you respond to higher doses of Test before adding other compounds. You just need to make sure your training and diet are in order, because that’s what builds muscle. Test is basically the Supercharger to an engine already running good. Realize, most Doctors that prescribe TRT, may cut your TRT out when adding extra Test or other steroids.
 
Thanks for the response brother! So I actually started on testosterone cypionate with no blood work and no supervision 😬 stupid I know but the state of my head now is 180° from when I started so idk why I thought this would be ok. Anyhow I started on 250mg a week planned on running 8 weeks after the 3rd week I could tell something was a little off I was slightly more aggressive and even though I've had insomnia for 3 years this insomnia felt different so I lowered it to 200mg a week. For the next ten weeks I felt great anxiety gone, insomnia gone and getting good sleep ect. When I went to the doctor to get blood work with hopes of continuing on trt she explained all my blood work was great and she wanted to lower the dose to .50mg twice weekly because on 200mg my levels were peaking around 1500 lol. So I guess I basically have already experimented and what I'm getting from your response is I should just chill out leave anything else alone and continue on my trt regime for awhile correct?
 
jmcg5291 said:
Thanks for the response brother! So I actually started on testosterone cypionate with no blood work and no supervision 😬 stupid I know but the state of my head now is 180° from when I started so idk why I thought this would be ok. Anyhow I started on 250mg a week planned on running 8 weeks after the 3rd week I could tell something was a little off I was slightly more aggressive and even though I've had insomnia for 3 years this insomnia felt different so I lowered it to 200mg a week. For the next ten weeks I felt great anxiety gone, insomnia gone and getting good sleep ect. When I went to the doctor to get blood work with hopes of continuing on trt she explained all my blood work was great and she wanted to lower the dose to .50mg twice weekly because on 200mg my levels were peaking around 1500 lol. So I guess I basically have already experimented and what I'm getting from your response is I should just chill out leave anything else alone and continue on my trt regime for awhile correct?
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Yeah, that’s exactly what I would do. See how you do with TRT first, and give your body some time to adjust. Although 100 mg a week is a low TRT dose, but I guess I see her logic, just surprised she gave you a prescription with your Test level so high. But maybe you found one of the few Doctors that is willing to work with you.👍
 
gphagan1 said:
Yeah, that’s exactly what I would do. See how you do with TRT first, and give your body some time to adjust. Although 100 mg a week is a low TRT dose, but I guess I see her logic, just surprised she gave you a prescription with your Test level so high. But maybe you found one of the few Doctors that is willing to work with you.👍
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Yeah so 11 days after my last 200mg injection my levels were 615. She said that the dose I'm on now should put me around 950-1000 and the clomiphene should help restart my natural production. I was a little surprised she kept me on it to but I have a follow appointment for blood work and to touch base with her 5 weeks after the dose change so will see what happens. Im 35 I did competitive edge labs extreme tren when I was 19 and got insane results I was able to talk to her about that and pretty much all anabolics and what they do so on and so fourth so she's definitely cool about it.
 
jmcg5291 said:
Yeah so 11 days after my last 200mg injection my levels were 615. She said that the dose I'm on now should put me around 950-1000 and the clomiphene should help restart my natural production. I was a little surprised she kept me on it to but I have a follow appointment for blood work and to touch base with her 5 weeks after the dose change so will see what happens. Im 35 I did competitive edge labs extreme tren when I was 19 and got insane results I was able to talk to her about that and pretty much all anabolics and what they do so on and so fourth so she's definitely cool about it.
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Clomid will not restart anything on Test, especially not once a week. If you want to stay fertile you should add HCG, preferably 2x week.

Nothing will keep your own Test from shutting down while on Test.
 
BBiceps said:
Clomid will not restart anything on Test, especially not once a week. If you want to stay fertile you should add HCG, preferably 2x week.

Nothing will keep your own Test from shutting down while on Test.
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Thanks did not know this! Appreciate it
 
gphagan1 said:
Truthfully, if your training and diet are in order, the best first cycle is Test at 300 mg - 500 mg a week, for 12 weeks. So just inject 150 to 250 mg twice a week and that would be the best cycle for you. It’s better to know how you respond to higher doses of Test before adding other compounds. You just need to make sure your training and diet are in order, because that’s what builds muscle. Test is basically the Supercharger to an engine already running good. Realize, most Doctors that prescribe TRT, may cut your TRT out when adding extra Test or other steroids.
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This! 👍🏻
 
Yeah I definitely think I'm just gonna stick to the plan. My levels are now around 950-1000 down from 1500ish for 8 weeks on 200mg but yeah eating all whole foods/shakes + at a 400 cal surplus gaining about a pound a week I live with what I got. I totally feel this response in the future I would just up the test again for 4-8 weeks
 
jmcg5291 said:
Yeah I definitely think I'm just gonna stick to the plan. My levels are now around 950-1000 down from 1500ish for 8 weeks on 200mg but yeah eating all whole foods/shakes + at a 400 cal surplus gaining about a pound a week I live with what I got. I totally feel this response in the future I would just up the test again for 4-8 weeks
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You can also use short ester, Test Prop, if you only want a 6 week blast. So you would have your background 100mg test cyp from the doctor, then add something like 30mg daily or 50mg eod of test prop shots with little 28g EZ Touch insulin syringes.

Daily shots of Prop would definitely be superior for insomnia, as levels get up immediately for gains now but never build up higher the way long ester does. Long esters are great for lowering aromatization and water retention & acne that can come with higher estrogen, but they will be harder on sleep.
 
Hyde said:
You can also use short ester, Test Prop, if you only want a 6 week blast. So you would have your background 100mg test cyp from the doctor, then add something like 30mg daily or 50mg eod of test prop shots with little 28g EZ Touch insulin syringes.

Daily shots of Prop would definitely be superior for insomnia, as levels get up immediately for gains now but never build up higher the way long ester does. Long esters are great for lowering aromatization and water retention & acne that can come with higher estrogen, but they will be harder on sleep.
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Just to make sure I’m understanding this correctly. Are you saying to pin the prop daily along with the regular TRT dose for a short blast?
 
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