Salt. Your opinion?

[bell1986]

What's everyone's thoughts on consuming salt?

It seems to have been vilified by some people and the health service and others say it's so overblown.

I personally love salt. I use probably around 5-6 grams of actual sodium a day. About 15g of salt. I always feel much better when my sodium intake is high. In the UK it's recommended to consume no more than 6g of salt which is 2.3g of sodium. I would personally feel awful on this amount. I sweat alot when doing cardio and because I eat so many vegetables and fruit my potassium intake is high. I do use a lo salt 50% salt and 50% potassium. I use around 2-3g of this daily which gives me around 1.5g of extra potassium.

My blood pressure is 110/70. If I don't eat enough salt my blood pressure will get too low. Fatigue etc.

What's everyone's rough intake a day? What's your thoughts on salt?

I personally use a Celtic sea salt. I don't use processed table salt. Salt is cheap even the higher end brands. What brand or type do others use?

Thanks

 

[ironviking]

Yea salt got a bad rep somewhere along the line. They kept trying to tie it to high BP but the studies I've seen were on lowering sodium intake in patients with other fluid retention conditions to observe effects on BP. Not saying other studies don't exist I just didn't bother looking very hard for them. My intake would be considered high although I don't really track it. I use Himalayan pink salt to supplement and Celtic to season. Helps to keep hydrated and muscle function workng well. I would recommend staying away from all the hydration supplements out there though, they end up nothing more than a pricey dose of flavored sodium.

 

[bell1986]

Yea salt got a bad rep somewhere along the line. They kept trying to tie it to high BP but the studies I've seen were on lowering sodium intake in patients with other fluid retention conditions to observe effects on BP. Not saying other studies don't exist I just didn't bother looking very hard for them. My intake would be considered high although I don't really track it. I use Himalayan pink salt to supplement and Celtic to season. Helps to keep hydrated and muscle function workng well. I would recommend staying away from all the hydration supplements out there though, they end up nothing more than a pricey dose of flavored sodium.

Yeh I personally believe that it's got a bad rep as alot of people connect salt to processed foods.

I think that a high quality sea salt is good for you. I eat alot of salt but also my potassium intake is pretty high.

If your blood pressure is high then I can maybe understand limiting intake but if your relatively fit and active then I would intake more salt.

 

[Joshlm69]

I take pink Himalayan salt (half a table spoon) with water every morning; then sip on electrolytes that contain pink Himalayan all day. I used to very prone to dehydration & migraines which had been completely mitigated by this protocol. Life changing for me

 

[botk1161]

I put probably 3g some in my homeade pre-workout and another 6g or so on food.

 

[bell1986]

I put probably 3g some in my homeade pre-workout and another 6g or so on food.

Nice

Are you picky with types of salt? Ie using a Celtic sea salt or pink himalayan over a table salt?

I know people rant about mineral content but honestly it's negligible across brands/types but I still buy a higher quality.

 

[botk1161]

Nice

Are you picky with types of salt? Ie using a Celtic sea salt or pink himalayan over a table salt?

I know people rant about mineral content but honestly it's negligible across brands/types but I still buy a higher quality.

Been using pink Himalayan. Have not tried anything else other than table salt (which we just don’t use anymore). I would be up for trying something different if there was a positive effect.

 

[KlausCoin]

big salt guy myself.
electrolytes , seasoning food.

I notice when my salt and water intake is high - performance in the gym goes up!

 

[bell1986]

Been using pink Himalayan. Have not tried anything else other than table salt (which we just don’t use anymore). I would be up for trying something different if there was a positive effect.

Celtic sea salt has been nice

big salt guy myself.
electrolytes , seasoning food.

I notice when my salt and water intake is high - performance in the gym goes up!

Yeh I'm exactly the same. I feel alot better overall when my sodium is high. I also notice that my hunger signals are almost non existent. I do also balance out the potassium aspect using potassium chloride (Lo salt) and plenty of fruit/veg

 

[jfigliuolo]

I salt my salt.

 

[Shadowblaze]

Salt is an absolute godsend, especially during the summer. Salt has always improved my strength, endurance and ability to train significantly, far more than creatine or any other supplement. I take about 1 tbsp a day especially during hot days. I put it in my water I take to university and in my pre workout water, I also put an entire pack of electrolytes with salt in it aswell in my pre workout water.

It helps so much, I also have fairly low blood pressure (always have had that, same as my dad) and I have POTS from long covid which I had for 3 years. So anything that bumps my blood pressure up even a bit is great for me.

 

[Shadowblaze]

I take pink Himalayan salt (half a table spoon) with water every morning; then sip on electrolytes that contain pink Himalayan all day. I used to very prone to dehydration & migraines which had been completely mitigated by this protocol. Life changing for me

Salt has been pretty life changing on a day to day basis for me aswell. I don’t get migraines luckily but salt is one of the only supplements to make a significant change to my quality of life.

 

[LucasBagoDoce]

Every time I purposefully increase my sodium/salt intake, I feel better overall. My mind is clearer, my pumps are better, and my workouts are much more productive...

 

[Smont]

Nice

Are you picky with types of salt? Ie using a Celtic sea salt or pink himalayan over a table salt?

I know people rant about mineral content but honestly it's negligible across brands/types but I still buy a higher quality.

Those are overrated broskie, the benefits are insignificant and eventually you will end up with a iodine deficiency too. Table salt is arguably better because of the iodine.

Don't take my word for it, all the credible research shows insignificant health improvement from one to the other

 

[New guy]

I love me some salt. Obviously it can be overdone but within reason I don’t think it’s the boogeyman like some people say. A little extra salt preworkout helps me get a better pump and reduce cramps which I’m prone to. I also drink a ton of water and am not as big on sports drinks like Gatorade as I used to be.

There’s also no better reward after a weigh-in than some pickle juice… look forward to that at the end of every weight cut

 

[bell1986]

Those are overrated broskie, the benefits are insignificant and eventually you will end up with a iodine deficiency too. Table salt is arguably better because of the iodine.

Don't take my word for it, all the credible research shows insignificant health improvement from one to the other

I think in the UK we don't use iodized salt. I've checked all the company's and they never seem to use iodized. Not sure why tbh?

Also table salt in the UK is trash. They add fillers and Preservatives to it. Even high end salt is relatively cheap so I don't mind spending an extra few pounds.

I have found a seasoning that is iodized so I use this. I also add some seaweed powders to my meals now and again and that's very iodine rich.

My last thyroid test wasn't too good so the last couple months I've actually been doing an experiment. I've bumped my iodine and selenium using seaweed and Brazil nuts. I actually have a bloodwork kit arriving tomorrow so I should know by midweek if it's had any impact. Lately though my energy has been trash so I suspect it hasn't. If this doesn't work I also have dessicated porcine thyroid I will experiment with.

Any advice on energy levels? Lol. Definitely been feeling off lately. I'm rocking a baf injury so I'm sure that ain't helping my mindset.

 

[Smont]

I think in the UK we don't use iodized salt. I've checked all the company's and they never seem to use iodized. Not sure why tbh?

Also table salt in the UK is trash. They add fillers and Preservatives to it. Even high end salt is relatively cheap so I don't mind spending an extra few pounds.

I have found a seasoning that is iodized so I use this. I also add some seaweed powders to my meals now and again and that's very iodine rich.

My last thyroid test wasn't too good so the last couple months I've actually been doing an experiment. I've bumped my iodine and selenium using seaweed and Brazil nuts. I actually have a bloodwork kit arriving tomorrow so I should know by midweek if it's had any impact. Lately though my energy has been trash so I suspect it hasn't. If this doesn't work I also have dessicated porcine thyroid I will experiment with.

Any advice on energy levels? Lol. Definitely been feeling off lately. I'm rocking a baf injury so I'm sure that ain't helping my mindset.

Your one of the few ppl who actually thought about iodine so kudos. I admit I dont know anything about food or anything specific to the UK.

As for energy, is it related to your thyroid? Thyroid regulates metabolism and it definitely can effect your mood and energy. I get low energy and depressed in the winter here we call it seasonal depression. If you live where the weather is always blah, I imagine that doesn't help much. By the way I also aim for 5-6gm sodium and I should probably get more. I work manual labor, work at a gym and lift/box/run. The more you move the more sodium you probably need.

I've also never once seen my BP go up from increasing my sodium. You can actually find a lot of studies that show the difference in how sodium effects athletes vs sedentary and overweight people. I'm not a Athlete anymore as I'm 40 now (shhhh don't tell nobody) but I still very much live and train like a athlete. I think the more active you are the less likely sodium will negatively affect you (within reason)

Didn't you say somewhere that you can't supplement with vitamin D?

 

[bell1986]

Those are overrated broskie, the benefits are insignificant and eventually you will end up with a iodine deficiency too. Table salt is arguably better because of the iodine.

Don't take my word for it, all the credible research shows insignificant health improvement from one to the other

I think in the UK we don't use iodized salt. I've checked all the company's and they never seem to use iodized. Not sure why tbh?

Also table salt in the UK is trash. They add fillers and Preservatives to it. Even high end salt is relatively cheap so I don't mind spending an extra few pounds.

I have found a seasoning that is iodized so I use this. I also add some seaweed powders to my meals now and again and that's very iodine rich.

My last thyroid test wasn't too good so the last couple months I've actually been doing an experiment. I've bumped my iodine and selenium using seaweed and Brazil nuts. I actually have a bloodwork kit arriving tomorrow so I should know by midweek if it's had any impact. Lately though my energy has been trash so I suspect it hasn't. If this doesn't work I also have dessicated porcine thyroid I will experiment with.

Any advice on energy levels? Lol. Definitely been feeling off lately. I'm rocking a injury so I'm sure that ain't helping my mindset.

Your one of the few ppl who actually thought about iodine so kudos. I admit I dont know anything about food or anything specific to the UK.

As for energy, is it related to your thyroid? Thyroid regulates metabolism and it definitely can effect your mood and energy. I get low energy and depressed in the winter here we call it seasonal depression. If you live where the weather is always blah, I imagine that doesn't help much. By the way I also aim for 5-6gm sodium and I should probably get more. I work manual labor, work at a gym and lift/box/run. The more you move the more sodium you probably need.

Didn't you say somewhere that you can't supplement with vitamin D?

Yeh I do try my best to focus on nutrients/minerals far more than taste/texture. It's actually made me become a very good cook though. Just learning food and taking bland healthier foods and making them taste much better.

I'm not 100% sure if it's thyroid related tbh. My last thyroid test showed a raised TSH and mid range T3/T4. Last year I had my TSH at 0.8 so I'm not sure why it's took a hike. Currently working on it.

Yeh I don't do well on vitamin d3. I also gave calcifediol a go also and never felt too good. It's been a good summer here in the UK so I've had a ton more sun and that's took my vitamin D to the top end of the range. SAD is awful here in the UK during the winter. The health service doesn't even recognise it as an issue! Their putting so many people on SSRI's these days. I sunbed once a week and even though it says it doesn't produce vitamin D they definitely do. I think they just scaremonger people due to skin cancer. I only do 4 minutes a week. 100% works and I don't overdo it.

Part of me also thinks that I may have histamine issues. Fermented foods and too much histamine seems to really knock me sideways. I've added in DAO prior to meals and seeing how that fairs. Early days.

Trying to tackle fatigue is tough. Anything off on your bloodwork can cause fatigue. I've tried my best to get any off markers back into the top of the range. I will be interested in this new thyroid panel. If the iodine/selenium doesn't work I will just go to the dessicated thyroid.

I'm on TRT so my hormones are good. I was using HCG for a while but I was losing hair like crazy on it. It's annoying because on TRT my estrogen doesn't seem to want to climb. On HCG it helped keep it a little higher. Also working on that lol

Have you ever suffered periods of fatigue? Did you find a fix?

 

[Smont]

I think in the UK we don't use iodized salt. I've checked all the company's and they never seem to use iodized. Not sure why tbh?

Also table salt in the UK is trash. They add fillers and Preservatives to it. Even high end salt is relatively cheap so I don't mind spending an extra few pounds.

I have found a seasoning that is iodized so I use this. I also add some seaweed powders to my meals now and again and that's very iodine rich.

My last thyroid test wasn't too good so the last couple months I've actually been doing an experiment. I've bumped my iodine and selenium using seaweed and Brazil nuts. I actually have a bloodwork kit arriving tomorrow so I should know by midweek if it's had any impact. Lately though my energy has been trash so I suspect it hasn't. If this doesn't work I also have dessicated porcine thyroid I will experiment with.

Any advice on energy levels? Lol. Definitely been feeling off lately. I'm rocking a injury so I'm sure that ain't helping my mindset.

Yeh I do try my best to focus on nutrients/minerals far more than taste/texture. It's actually made me become a very good cook though. Just learning food and taking bland healthier foods and making them taste much better.

I'm not 100% sure if it's thyroid related tbh. My last thyroid test showed a raised TSH and mid range T3/T4. Last year I had my TSH at 0.8 so I'm not sure why it's took a hike. Currently working on it.

Yeh I don't do well on vitamin d3. I also gave calcifediol a go also and never felt too good. It's been a good summer here in the UK so I've had a ton more sun and that's took my vitamin D to the top end of the range. SAD is awful here in the UK during the winter. The health service doesn't even recognise it as an issue! Their putting so many people on SSRI's these days. I sunbed once a week and even though it says it doesn't produce vitamin D they definitely do. I think they just scaremonger people due to skin cancer. I only do 4 minutes a week. 100% works and I don't overdo it.

Part of me also thinks that I may have histamine issues. Fermented foods and too much histamine seems to really knock me sideways. I've added in DAO prior to meals and seeing how that fairs. Early days.

Trying to tackle fatigue is tough. Anything off on your bloodwork can cause fatigue. I've tried my best to get any off markers back into the top of the range. I will be interested in this new thyroid panel. If the iodine/selenium doesn't work I will just go to the dessicated thyroid.

I'm on TRT so my hormones are good. I was using HCG for a while but I was losing hair like crazy on it. It's annoying because on TRT my estrogen doesn't seem to want to climb. On HCG it helped keep it a little higher. Also working on that lol

Have you ever suffered periods of fatigue? Did you find a fix?

For me the problem is I never know what's the cause and I typically am not a strong sleeper. I wake up often. Always have. When your fatigued I would check sleep first. But my sleep is consistently inconsistent if that makes sense it's not really a variable I've become adjusted to it over the years. So when I'm drained all the time I usually start with looking at my work load and my workouts, have I been overdoing those 2? It's usually the issue but when it's not I look to my food, after food I look at my social life and relationships. I know that may sound weird but I've noticed when I'm fighting a lot at home and stress is high I will tend to get more antisocial and the more I sit around the more general fatigue I feel. Unfortunately I don't think I often figure out the real cause. But usually by the time I've checked off all those boxes I snap outta it. I'm high anxiety and a adrenaline junkie and I like to lift heavy stuff and box and that is a good combination for CNS burnout . Many forms of stress, mental and physical stress causes fatigue. Just having anxiety can deplete your glycogen and energy stores from the fight or flight response. Cortisol and epinephrine rapidly break down glycogen and send it into the bloodstream for energy.

I recently took a week off from the gym and pushed off almost all my work so I could have a little recoup time. Once I stopped feeling like there was a massive load on my shoulders I started to get some energy and motivation back. I use that to set some new goals to work twords. Often having real goals with some kind of deadline can help you get moving and a object in motion will stay in motion. Sometimes we gotta just trick ourselves out of a funk

 

[bell1986]

For me the problem is I never know what's the cause and I typically am not a strong sleeper. I wake up often. Always have. When your fatigued I would check sleep first. But my sleep is consistently inconsistent if that makes sense it's not really a variable I've become adjusted to it over the years. So when I'm drained all the time I usually start with looking at my work load and my workouts, have I been overdoing those 2? It's usually the issue but when it's not I look to my food, after food I look at my social life and relationships. I know that may sound weird but I've noticed when I'm fighting a lot at home and stress is high I will tend to get more antisocial and the more I sit around the more general fatigue I feel. Unfortunately I don't think I often figure out the real cause. But usually by the time I've checked off all those boxes I snap outta it. I'm high anxiety and a adrenaline junkie and I like to lift heavy stuff and box and that is a good combination for CNS burnout . Many forms of stress, mental and physical stress causes fatigue. Just having anxiety can deplete your glycogen and energy stores from the fight or flight response. Cortisol and epinephrine rapidly break down glycogen and send it into the bloodstream for energy.

I recently took a week off from the gym and pushed off almost all my work so I could have a little recoup time. Once I stopped feeling like there was a massive load on my shoulders I started to get some energy and motivation back. I use that to set some new goals to work twords. Often having real goals with some kind of deadline can help you get moving and a object in motion will stay in motion. Sometimes we gotta just trick ourselves out of a funk

You sound very similar to me.

I've managed to get my anxiety to acceptable levels just from diet and exercise. In my younger years I tried the pharmaceutical route. SSRI's and Beta Blockers and Diazepam. Even though these help they don't fix anything. The SSRI absolutely destroyed 2 years of my life though. Would never touch those drugs ever again. Thankfully I came off them all and battled the withdrawals and now just manage it with exercise and diet.

I will see what this new bloodwork shows. If the thyroid is still trash I will jump into the dessicated thyroid and take notes on that.

Are you on any hormones? I've used TRT for 8 years now. Took some trial and error but have a decent protocol now.

 

[Smont]

You sound very similar to me.

I've managed to get my anxiety to acceptable levels just from diet and exercise. In my younger years I tried the pharmaceutical route. SSRI's and Beta Blockers and Diazepam. Even though these help they don't fix anything. The SSRI absolutely destroyed 2 years of my life though. Would never touch those drugs ever again. Thankfully I came off them all and battled the withdrawals and now just manage it with exercise and diet.

I will see what this new bloodwork shows. If the thyroid is still trash I will jump into the dessicated thyroid and take notes on that.

Are you on any hormones? I've used TRT for 8 years now. Took some trial and error but have a decent protocol now.

I've been on trt about 5 years. I actually didn't have any issues with my protocol. 150mg/week from day 1 just felt completely normal and I never changed it. I actually feel exactly the same on my TRT as I do on cycle 500-750mg of testosterone. If test is the only thing I'm using I never feel any different as long as estrogen doesn't get too crazy.

Currently I'm on TRT 150mg (50x3) and 2 units of HGH (when I remember) sometimes because I forget my nightly 2 units il just do 4-5 units 3x week and il line up my TRT and HGH with my 3 hardest training days (I'm not sure if it makes a huge difference I just like to do it that way so I can remember everything)

 

[bell1986]

I've been on trt about 5 years. I actually didn't have any issues with my protocol. 150mg/week from day 1 just felt completely normal and I never changed it. I actually feel exactly the same on my TRT as I do on cycle 500-750mg of testosterone. If test is the only thing I'm using I never feel any different as long as estrogen doesn't get too crazy.

Currently I'm on TRT 150mg (50x3) and 2 units of HGH (when I remember) sometimes because I forget my nightly 2 units il just do 4-5 units 3x week and il line up my TRT and HGH with my 3 hardest training days (I'm not sure if it makes a huge difference I just like to do it that way so I can remember everything)

I'm also on 150mg 50mg x3 a week. Sits my test at around 1100. My e2 is always a b*tch though. My last test it was at 20ng/l. The ratio definitely needs improved. Would rather prefer it in the 30-40 range. Not sure why it won't budge tbh. Don't use anything that's an aromatase inhibitor. I did read that though that eating high fibre can actually lower estrogen due to the gut estrogen recycling. I'm swapping most of my high fibre vegetables for potatoes.

Also added in 25mg of oral Dhea

Once my injury is healed up I reckon I will bump the TRT up to around 500mg. I haven't lifted a weight for 4 weeks so I'm noticing the muscle loss. I know it's temporary though and muscle memory will kick in once I can lift again.

Do you struggle with estrogen at all?

 

[Smont]

I'm also on 150mg 50mg x3 a week. Sits my test at around 1100. My e2 is always a b*tch though. My last test it was at 20ng/l. The ratio definitely needs improved. Would rather prefer it in the 30-40 range. Not sure why it won't budge tbh. Don't use anything that's an aromatase inhibitor. I did read that though that eating high fibre can actually lower estrogen due to the gut estrogen recycling. I'm swapping most of my high fibre vegetables for potatoes.

Also added in 25mg of oral Dhea

Once my injury is healed up I reckon I will bump the TRT up to around 500mg. I haven't lifted a weight for 4 weeks so I'm noticing the muscle loss. I know it's temporary though and muscle memory will kick in once I can lift again.

Do you struggle with estrogen at all?

I was going to suggest 50-100mg DHEA.

I have no issues with low estrogen. On TRT I'm mid to upper range and I actually feel good up to about 2.5x the reference range so on a cycle I don't need anything until I hit that 500mg mark and then I need a AI (but typically I use eq instead) the reason being is that I don't get sides from EQ, it lowers my estrogen and it adds some firepower to the cycle (well a little).

So if anything high estrogen would be my issue but that typically doesn't happen unless I'm on a cycle with moderate to high testosterone or other aromatizing compounds

 

[vlsk10]

So there are new studies in Japan linking high sodium intake (NaCl) with higher mortality and increased cardivascular risk's. And a swedish study refering to impaired fat loss with high sodium intake. The japanese study refers to a group of people who ate some kind of ramen noodles dish that contained over 6g of salt per serving. And that was just one dish exceeding the dailey recommended intake.

I also heard quite recently ramen noodels in the US are full with bioenginered ingredients (that's 5 seed oils) + modified refined sugar starches, artficial flavourings and colorings. MSG. It's pure garbage for your health and I don't eat it anyways. I eat single food ingredients. And I rarely salt my food. A pinch of iodized NaCl sometimes because I've had thyroid iussues (which btw was more of a selenium deficiency rather than an iodine deficency. Thyroid-idodine related issues are very rare btw - it's almost never the reason for hypothyrodism.

Back to the salt issue. It's recommended not to exceeed 6 grams of salt per day. So what kind of salt mixes should we use? My gouverment all of a sudden recommends substituing all NaCl for Calcium chloride but chatgpt warns against it. Saying it's not ideal for endurance athletes or heavy sweaters. So what is best guys? And I see people grabbing a pinch of celtic calt in everything, prasing it at something holy and good for you. When maybe it isn't?

• Replacing some NaCl with KCl is beneficial for most healthy people — it can reduce blood pressure and heart risk.
• Replacing all NaCl with KCl can be dangerous unless you’re carefully monitored and have normal kidney function.
• If you have kidney, heart, or endocrine issues — or take certain meds — consult your doctor first before using KCl-based salts.

 

[bell1986]

So there are new studies in Japan linking high sodium intake (NaCl) with higher mortality and increased cardivascular risk's. And a swedish study refering to impaired fat loss with high sodium intake. The japanese study refers to a group of people who ate some kind of ramen noodles dish that contained over 6g of salt per serving. And that was just one dish exceeding the dailey recommended intake.

I also heard quite recently ramen noodels in the US are full with bioenginered ingredients (that's 5 seed oils) + modified refined sugar starches, artficial flavourings and colorings. MSG. It's pure garbage for your health and I don't eat it anyways. I eat single food ingredients. And I rarely salt my food. A pinch of iodized NaCl sometimes because I've had thyroid iussues (which btw was more of a selenium deficiency rather than an iodine deficency. Thyroid-idodine related issues are very rare btw - it's almost never the reason for hypothyrodism.

Back to the salt issue. It's recommended not to exceeed 6 grams of salt per day. So what kind of salt mixes should we use? My gouverment all of a sudden recommends substituing all NaCl for Calcium chloride but chatgpt warns against it. Saying it's not ideal for endurance athletes or heavy sweaters. So what is best guys? And I see people grabbing a pinch of celtic calt in everything, prasing it at something holy and good for you. When maybe it isn't?

• Replacing some NaCl with KCl is beneficial for most healthy people — it can reduce blood pressure and heart risk.
• Replacing all NaCl with KCl can be dangerous unless you’re carefully monitored and have normal kidney function.
• If you have kidney, heart, or endocrine issues — or take certain meds — consult your doctor first before using KCl-based salts.

I eat 15-20g a day

Being honest though. I feel MUCH better eating a high sodium diet. I've tried reducing it but I always notice a huge dip in energy.

Also my blood pressure is always low. On a good day it's 110/70. It usually sits around here if I keep my salt intake high.

I do purchase iodized sea salts. In the UK we don't use iodized salts for some weird reason. I also make up a blend that has 60% salt and 40% potassium chloride. I will also use this now and again to keep potassium levels balanced. Be careful with potassium chloride though. I got it mixed up one evening and used a huge dose. That night I woke soaked in sweat. Had a serious arrhythmia and felt very unwell. Scary! Also it's sold in large bags in the UK for so cheap.

I personally think salt is ok for you. Their is mixed studies though. I will continue to just use as much as I currently do. I feel good and plenty of energy.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Being honest though. I feel MUCH better eating a high sodium diet. I've tried reducing it but I always notice a huge dip in energy.

Same here! I just drink lots of water paired with the high sodium and I keep it consistent daily meaning I don't have high sodium one day and the next low sodium.

 

[bell1986]

Same here! I just drink lots of water paired with the high sodium and I keep it consistent daily meaning I don't have high sodium one day and the next low sodium.

Yeh I'm the same. I already drink alot of liquid and I eat alot of vegetables which also contain alot of water.

Do you notice any negatives from the sodium? I don't have any tbh. Everywhere online it says you retain more water but I don't have any retention at all. I think that if you consume high sodium consistently your body recognises this and balances out the fluids. If someone isn't eating alot of salt and then they bomb the body with a huge amount then I can see this causing water retention.

I think more people should atleast try it if their noticing fatigue issues. Even do it for a week and note how their feeling.

 

[vlsk10]

Yeh I'm the same. I already drink alot of liquid and I eat alot of vegetables which also contain alot of water.

Do you notice any negatives from the sodium? I don't have any tbh. Everywhere online it says you retain more water but I don't have any retention at all. I think that if you consume high sodium consistently your body recognises this and balances out the fluids. If someone isn't eating alot of salt and then they bomb the body with a huge amount then I can see this causing water retention.

I think more people should atleast try it if their noticing fatigue issues. Even do it for a week and note how their feeling.

How often do you take your blood pressure. And is your systolic upper value in range 100-130 and the diastolic lower value around 60-75 mmHg

Because you may feel great with your sodium intake but your heart may be silently crying for help?

Are you lean btw. Do you have visible abs? Low BF? Because recent studies shows high intake of sodium in correlation with higher fat storage. Especially in older men and women.

 

[bell1986]

How often do you take your blood pressure. And is your systolic upper value 100-130 and the diastolic lower value around 60-75?

Because you may feel great with your sodium intake but your may be silently crying?

My blood pressure sits around 110/70. Being honest I could do with a bump in this tbh. I feel better when it's near the 120/80 mark.

The 110/70 is using 15g salt. Licorice root extract and I drink 2 coffees a day.

I done a heart exam a couple year ago. I done a treadmill test and I maxed the machine out. I also wore heart monitor for a week and results were perfect.

I think my heart is good tbh. I also notice that I can do cardio for very long periods and don't really get out of breath. I have friends 10 years younger that get winded much quicker than me also.

My diet is spot on. I don't eat trash. I prep meals everyday. I'm 40 next year and want to keep as fit as I possibly can. I don't have perfect health but it's definitely much better than the average.

Everybody's body will also process salt different. I always check my kidney markers are their very good.

 

[vlsk10]

Same here! I just drink lots of water paired with the high sodium and I keep it consistent daily meaning I don't have high sodium one day and the next low sodium.

What about blood pressure? Are you lean as your nick name suggests? What's your age range btw (I'm 33 myself). So if you would put yourself in the right column. 18-40, 40-50, 50-60 or 60-70? Because I think that obviosly matters too. With age, the heart has to work harder obviously.
And if you're 18-50, maybe sodium intake could be less important.

 

[bell1986]

What about blood pressure? Are you lean as your nick name suggests? What's your age range btw (I'm 33 myself). So if you would put yourself in the right column. 18-40, 40-50, 50-60 or 60-70? Because I think that obviosly matters too. With age, the heart has to work harder obviously.
And if you're 18-50, maybe sodium intake could be less important.

Do you personally restrict sodium? Have you ever experimented with a higher sodium intake?

I think the whole scare with salt has now been de-bunked. If your blood pressure is high then I can understand restricting salt. My blood pressure is always low so for me personally it's a huge benefit.

You also need to be balancing out your potassium also. If your in taking 10g+ salt a day but barely eat a vegetable then your gonna mess yourself up.

 

[vlsk10]

My blood pressure sits around 110/70. Being honest I could do with a bump in this tbh. I feel better when it's near the 120/80 mark.

The 110/70 is using 15g salt. Licorice root extract and I drink 2 coffees a day.

I done a heart exam a couple year ago. I done a treadmill test and I maxed the machine out. I also wore heart monitor for a week and results were perfect.

I think my heart is good tbh. I also notice that I can do cardio for very long periods and don't really get out of breath. I have friends 10 years younger that get winded much quicker than me also.

My diet is spot on. I don't eat trash. I prep meals everyday. I'm 40 next year and want to keep as fit as I possibly can. I don't have perfect health but it's definitely much better than the average.

Everybody's body will also process salt different. I always check my kidney markers are their very good.

Sounds very good despite such a high sodium intake. I don't even count my sodium intake but I know it's less than 6 grams for sure because I eat single food ingredients like meat, potatoes, vedgetables, eggs, greek yoghurt and sardines. And I generally don't salt my food more than a small little pinch here and there. Always fry my meat in tallow or grass fed butter.

I'm suprised you take licorice root. How much do you take and how often? I bought it as an aphrodisiac myself - but I know it both raises BP + energy but it also lowers testosterone and more importantly potassium levels. So you really shouldn't be taking it every day.' I'm from scandinavia and licorice root is a part of our candy culture here - so I was born to eat salt licorice as a kid But I've learned to avoid it. In general, I no longer eat candy anymore. Very rarely.

 

[vlsk10]

Do you personally restrict sodium? Have you ever experimented with a higher sodium intake?

I think the whole scare with salt has now been de-bunked. If your blood pressure is high then I can understand restricting salt. My blood pressure is always low so for me personally it's a huge benefit.

You also need to be balancing out your potassium also. If your in taking 10g+ salt a day but barely eat a vegetable then your gonna mess yourself up.

I've mixed celtic salt in my preworkouts and in my electrolyte water a few times dailey in the past - and my body did hold on to more water this way I looked more full - some water retention. Muscles appeared heavier. But I haven't experienced much else other than a little increase in eye/forehead pressure. I think I'm still young. My organs are healthy, my liver, kidney and heart runs like a clock. But my blood pressure is obviously a bit lower now (118-120/65) as opposed to when my sodium intake was higher it was more like 130-140 / 70-80.

But again. I think it all comes down to age and genetics. Wheather or not you have heart disease running in your family - is obviously gonna be important too. And that runs in my family unforunetly on my mother's side. Her mother or my grandmother.