Get me caught up?

[New guy]

I’ve been off the forum for a while (2-3 years?) and I’m a little out of touch it would seem.

Still been working out and using staple supps (creatine, preworkout, etc) but have been ramping back up and doing my research. A lot seems to have changed. If you have the time to swing by and drop some knowledge, and say hey, feel free. Here’s what I’ve noticed,

3AD is the new hot ****? Seems very promising and I’ve seen some pretty unbelievable reviews on Reddit… any other PH’s like this in the works?

Grey market DS/PH’s seem to be completely gone, no DMZ/Msten/m1A/Dienolone. I’m guessing the government cracked down again on import/sales?

Andro’s have dried up except Hi-tech and their licensee’s, even epi? I was under the impression that Epiandro was safe from their trademarks

I don’t hear anything at all about SARMs anymore, even among gym friends. Don’t see many logs or questions about them anymore.

Anything else I’m missing?

 

[Dblock]

Almost everything is gone, Epiandrosterone is still out there and there is plenty of residual stock floating around so if discontinued it will be available for awhile. If you like it buy it, that is my advice as not stockpiling Dienolone has bitten me in the ass…. I wish I bought a ton

 

[gphagan1]

I’ve been off the forum for a while (2-3 years?) and I’m a little out of touch it would seem.

Still been working out and using staple supps (creatine, preworkout, etc) but have been ramping back up and doing my research. A lot seems to have changed. If you have the time to swing by and drop some knowledge, and say hey, feel free. Here’s what I’ve noticed,

3AD is the new hot ****? Seems very promising and I’ve seen some pretty unbelievable reviews on Reddit… any other PH’s like this in the works?

Grey market DS/PH’s seem to be completely gone, no DMZ/Msten/m1A/Dienolone. I’m guessing the government cracked down again on import/sales?

Andro’s have dried up except Hi-tech and their licensee’s, even epi? I was under the impression that Epiandro was safe from their trademarks

I don’t hear anything at all about SARMs anymore, even among gym friends. Don’t see many logs or questions about them anymore.

Anything else I’m missing?

Iconic Formulations has a good transdermal 3AD product called Ultra 3. It’s very good pre workout….gives a good clean mental focus and drive, similar to Epi but at a much smaller dose, 150 mg is a good dose for it. And some people get anxiety with Epi at 900mg and above, but you don’t get that with 3AD. There’s really nothing out there legal as potent as DMZ/Msten/m1A/Dienolone/ Superdrol these days. Now SNS and CEL have a lot of new natural anabolic supplements, that are quite good. Seen some blood tests after some of those products and they are impressive for supplements.

 

[New guy]

@Dblock I’ll probably stock up on some Epi before it dries up, I see some muscle addiction available online to add to the mini stockpile I have going. Also going to need some more Icon 1…

@gphagan1 does the 3ad give the gym aggression like epi or more toned down and clean? The new CEL “Alpha One” seems very promising. I loved Xgels but they tore me up on the joints and sternum where I had an old injury. Seems like they’ve really been putting in good work on the natural supplements

 

[gphagan1]

@Dblock I’ll probably stock up on some Epi before it dries up, I see some muscle addiction available online to add to the mini stockpile I have going. Also going to need some more Icon 1…

@gphagan1 does the 3ad give the gym aggression like epi or more toned down and clean? The new CEL “Alpha One” seems very promising. I loved Xgels but they tore me up on the joints and sternum where I had an old injury. Seems like they’ve really been putting in good work on the natural supplements

Yeah it does give that good gym aggression but it’s more of a feel good clean aggression. Some people get that anxiety nervous feeling with high dose Epi, but you don’t get that with 3AD, if that makes sense. I actually don’t get the anxiety with Epi, and I still like it pre, but I think I like 3AD a little more, but to me they are very similar.

 

[New guy]

Yeah it does give that good gym aggression but it’s more of a feel good clean aggression. Some people get that anxiety nervous feeling with high dose Epi, but you don’t get that with 3AD, if that makes sense. I actually don’t get the anxiety with Epi, and I still like it pre, but I think I like 3AD a little more, but to me they are very similar.

I’ve never gotten anxiety with epi either but I’m far more cautious of sides every year I get older. Sounds like Ultra 3 is on the docket to try next!

 

[timmylong2725]

I think your assessment is largely accurate, however there are some exceptions:

4-AD is still available

It's from predator nutrition which is UK-based so they charge a lot for shipping, but it's there. Fusion sells a lot more than just that, they have some AIs and other anabolics including some methylated stuff.

The one andro that has a study behind it is 1-DHEA aka 1-AD with a ketone on position 17 instead of a hydroxyl. So, its a 1-step precursor to 1-AD (and 1-A-Dione for that matter) and a 2-step to 1-test.

 

[New guy]

I think your assessment is largely accurate, however there are some exceptions:

4-AD is still available via fusion supplements:

It's from predator nutrition which is UK-based so they charge a lot for shipping, but it's there. Fusion sells a lot more than just that, they have some AIs and other anabolics including some methylated stuff.

The one andro that has a study behind it is 1-DHEA aka 1-AD with a ketone on position 17 instead of a hydroxyl. So, its a 1-step precursor to 1-AD (and 1-A-Dione for that matter) and a 2-step to 1-test.

Rock hard supplements is selling it:

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Welcome to the forum! There’s tons of knowledge on here and it’s always good to see new users.

Just a heads up, sourcing is a no-no on the forum, might want to edit that before a mod sees it.

I guess I should have clarified, I was referring to legal/grey market anabolics. 4ad is scheduled and named. It’s still available but illegal (in the states) and doesn’t leave any advantage over injectable test besides no pinning.

1 Andro (1-DHEA) like Rock Hard sells is licensed out by High Tech who owns the rights to all the legal andros except 3AD. There’s some other fantastic 1-Andro products made by board sponsors too if you haven’t checked those out yet.

 

[timmylong2725]

Welcome to the forum! There’s tons of knowledge on here and it’s always good to see new users.

Just a heads up, sourcing is a no-no on the forum, might want to edit that before a mod sees it.

I guess I should have clarified, I was referring to legal/grey market anabolics. 4ad is scheduled and named. It’s still available but illegal (in the states) and doesn’t leave any advantage over injectable test besides no pinning.

1 Andro (1-DHEA) like Rock Hard sells is licensed out by High Tech who owns the rights to all the legal andros except 3AD. There’s some other fantastic 1-Andro products made by board sponsors too if you haven’t checked those out yet.

Thanks for the heads up with the sources.

What are some of the 1-andro products that people like around here?

 

[New guy]

Thanks for the heads up with the sources.

What are some of the 1-andro products that people like around here?

Iconic has “Icon One” which is still floating around. It’s transdermal and fantastic. IML made “Super 1-Andro” which is also transdermal. I’ve used and can recommend both.

Rock Hard “Super Mandro” is the only popular oral 1-Andro that I know of, the rest aren’t as properly dosed or reasonably priced.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Iconic has “Icon One” which is still floating around. It’s transdermal and fantastic. IML made “Super 1-Andro” which is also transdermal. I’ve used and can recommend both.

Rock Hard “Super Mandro” is the only popular oral 1-Andro that I know of, the rest aren’t as properly dosed or reasonably priced.

Hard Rock Supplements Super Mandro definitely a go to for 1-andro

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