1st Cycle - LG Science 1-andro + Iconic Alpha 4

Gingerbetes

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Hello everyone!

New member, longtime lifter and thread follower. Going to be starting my first cycle and excited/nervous to see results.

I plan on using the following for my cycle:

LG Sciences 1-andro (50mg/tab)
Iconic Formulations - Alpha 4
5% Liver and Organ Defender during and after cycle

PCT:
Cloma-plex
Enclomiphene

Week1:
1-andro - 200mg / day (4 tabs)
Week2:
1-andro 200mg/day
4-andro 100mg/day (2 pumps)

Week 3/4:
1-andro 200mg/day
4-andro 200mg/day (4 pumps)

Week 5/6:
1-andro 200mg/day
4-andro 200mg/day (4 pumps)
Cloma-Plex daily

Week 7-9:
Enclomiphene : 12.5mg
Cloma-Plex daily

Week 10/11:
Enclomiphene: 6mg
Test Booster (recommendations?)

I have Form-XT on hand for Estro sides but unless experiencing them, plan to not use.

Looking for recommendations and advice on any changes to cycle and supplements for support and pct

Thank you everyone!
 
From what I've gathered from this board, as well as personal expirience, it would be beneficial to run the 4 andro from the beginning as it is used as a test base.

I never ran 1 andro, but i did do a 4 andro/ epi andro combo ( hi tech sustanon 250 (got it on super sale from a local supplement shop) + xpi epiandro gel)
 
Looks like a solid plan to me! The only thing I could recommend is maybe adding Alpha Gel or Sustain Alpha with your enclomiphene. I’ve used this combo a couple times and its worked well for me.
 
Someone mentioned it but you want the 4 Andro from day 1 or even before the 1 andro. Some people feel quite lethargic on one Andro, not everybody, but some do. You want the 4 Andro in place to combat that from day one. I would also suggest higher doses. The basic standard first Andro cycle is 300-330mg of each, or about 2/3 that dose transdermal. If your gonna play with hormones you want to at least make it worth your while. It would suck to get shut down but not be taking enough to see results. For some reason guys love doing that and saying there getting there toes wet or something.

Other than that, looks good, PCT looks good.

Having a AI on hand would be a beneficial.

Good luck 💪
 
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Thank you everyone for the reviews and suggestions! I definitely think the 4-andro from day one would be a good idea. I started and by day 2 on 1-andro I was feeling quite crappy so I took a day to "reset" since I had not been on cycle for tool long. Not sure if it was the lack of 4-andro but I will definitely be starting with it today because that was god-awful.

Also will up the dosage to 300 but I've read that transdermal is different than oral so would the 4-andro transdermal be better upped as well or should that remain at the 200 (bottle says 225mg)?
 
Gingerbetes said:
Thank you everyone for the reviews and suggestions! I definitely think the 4-andro from day one would be a good idea. I started and by day 2 on 1-andro I was feeling quite crappy so I took a day to "reset" since I had not been on cycle for tool long. Not sure if it was the lack of 4-andro but I will definitely be starting with it today because that was god-awful.

Also will up the dosage to 300 but I've read that transdermal is different than oral so would the 4-andro transdermal be better upped as well or should that remain at the 200 (bottle says 225mg)?
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Transdermal is stronger. I'd just go with 4 pumps of Alpha Four. As Smorc said, you're better to start it a week early and get it in your system by the time you introduce 1andro
 
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