Have questions about taking testosterone injections. General information.

[117codyawebb]

I’ve been taking test C inj for almost 4 weeks now. I am mainly coming here to see what the experienced users have to say or any tips that could be given for someone new to it. If you have any questions or need any information I am all ears and coming here to gather information and knowledge about a subject I’m fairly new to.

 

[delsolrob]

That's a pretty broad opening...

how many injections are you doing per week, what dose you running a week, what other compounds are you taking - enclomiphene, HCG, anastazole, etc - and at what dose? are you running TRT or a cycle? What are your goals, expectations?

 

[Smont]

General information would probably just cover how to pin and understanding dosing but there's probably 5,000 possible questions you could ask. Be a little more specific. The post above mine has some good questions

 

[117codyawebb]

That's a pretty broad opening...

how many injections are you doing per week, what dose you running a week, what other compounds are you taking - enclomiphene, HCG, anastazole, etc - and at what dose? are you running TRT or a cycle? What are your goals, expectations?

Thanks for the reply. I’m taking 250mg a week of test cypionate. 125mg every 3 -4 days. Not trt. I’m not taking anything else besides the test to see how my body reacts to it. Goals are just weight and strength gain and body recomp. Working out every other day. I do have construction work as well. I’m dropping the dosage too 200 a week because 250 seems to be working. Extremely well and if I can lower the dosage for same results or damn near same results I feel like that is a better move. I mainly started cause I always wanted to do anabolics and let myself get older before using. Is there anything that you would add change or suggest Ik it’s kind of a broad statement but I’m not sure what questions to be asking other than any cretique on what I’m currently doing.

 

[Smont]

Typically 250mg would be a bit low for a cycle, for many 125-200mg is needed for trt. If everything is working and you're not having any side effects I would change nothing at all. As time goes on you want the dosage to go up not to go down unless you want to just go to TRT and stay there.

I would leave everything as is

 

[117codyawebb]

Typically 250mg would be a bit low for a cycle, for many 125-200mg is needed for trt. If everything is working and you're not having any side effects I would change nothing at all. As time goes on you want the dosage to go up not to go down unless you want to just go to TRT and stay there.

I would leave everything as is

Okay, so in several weeks as I feel or see needed Slightly increase dosage over a duration of time long enough to monitor any potential side effects. I was not aware that that was a trt dosage. I want to get the most out of the least if that makes sense. Would it be appropriate to increase the dosage to 275 over the course of a week or two and get up to 300mg a week?

Is pinning every 3-4 days appropriate or should I do 1 large dose 1x a week or break it up more?

I have one more pin of test c then I’m wanting to start sustanon. Dose the dosage for it still apply ?

About how far into this process would adding an oral like dbol be okay? Should I let my body feel out the sustanon first or is it okay to start taking it anyway.

I’ve been slowly getting into this to just see what happens and so far everything is going well. If it’s wise to take more I would love to I really like the feeling of it makes me feel like I’m 19 again. I’m just trying to understand what the safe limits are, I understand a lot of that is a personal process of trial and error and I am my own Ginny pig just trying to hear what the big dogs have to say before I decide anything on my own.

Like I said strength, size, and feeling great is my over goal. I’d rather be a functional weapon than a bodybuilder if that makes sense

 

[117codyawebb]

Typically 250mg would be a bit low for a cycle, for many 125-200mg is needed for trt. If everything is working and you're not having any side effects I would change nothing at all. As time goes on you want the dosage to go up not to go down unless you want to just go to TRT and stay there.

I would leave everything as is

Also what mg a week would you consider would be a good starting dosage? A dosage of taking the least to get the most?

 

[delsolrob]

I was going to say the same thing as @Smont - these are roughly TRT doses

I would still recommend keeping 2 injections a week - this will help keep your levels more stable through the week - and I believe this will also help mitigate some concerns with estrogen conversion.

Test is great, but I wouldn't expect a whole ton from it at these doses and if you wanted to feel like you're 19 again - I would add some Ultra Hard with the test - the combination of epiandro and androsterone is really going to do wonders with the test...the boost to libido, focus, aggression is going to be really strong - without having to worry about sides.

The things you want are less driven by testosterone and more DHT related.

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[117codyawebb]

I was going to say the same thing as @Smont - these are roughly TRT doses

I would still recommend keeping 2 injections a week - this will help keep your levels more stable through the week - and I believe this will also help mitigate some concerns with estrogen conversion.

Test is great, but I wouldn't expect a whole ton from it at these doses and if you wanted to feel like you're 19 again - I would add some Ultra Hard with the test - the combination of epiandro and androsterone is really going to do wonders with the test...the boost to libido, focus, aggression is going to be really strong - without having to worry about sides.

The things you want are less driven by testosterone and more DHT related.

Ultra Hard

Due to material shortages and limited supply, this product does not qualify for any discounts

iconicformulations.com

Hey man thanks for the information and advise all of it is greatly appreciated. Okay I’ve got a lot of research to do. I appreciate your help In this brother.

 

[117codyawebb]

I was going to say the same thing as @Smont - these are roughly TRT doses

I would still recommend keeping 2 injections a week - this will help keep your levels more stable through the week - and I believe this will also help mitigate some concerns with estrogen conversion.

Test is great, but I wouldn't expect a whole ton from it at these doses and if you wanted to feel like you're 19 again - I would add some Ultra Hard with the test - the combination of epiandro and androsterone is really going to do wonders with the test...the boost to libido, focus, aggression is going to be really strong - without having to worry about sides.

The things you want are less driven by testosterone and more DHT related.

Ultra Hard

Due to material shortages and limited supply, this product does not qualify for any discounts

iconicformulations.com

Also, Ik people say to cycle on and off. I’ve been. Planning on staying on test to not crash my system out work the cycling and then I guess trt to stablize and keep accumulated mass and gains.. is this realistically possible? Can test be run continuously? Or should a break be given and pct administered just for health aspect? If so how long can I be on test before letting my body rest recover? If any of that makes sense

 

[Smont]

Old school guys would say 500 test is a good first cycle. Most of us now would say start at 300-400mg of test and then after maybe 6 weeks or so up the dose or you could add something mild. Typically I'd say stay with compounds that don't convert to estrogen. The test has all the estrogen you need and adding something like masteron or any of the dht pro hormones would usually be a safe bet to add a little firepower without adding side effects. 90% of your results from the gear are still going to come down to diet and training. The first couple months on steroids you will get some free lunch tickets lol. But after a while everything's going to kind of balance out. At the end of the day food=mass and the diet and training will determine what that mass looks like. Some steroids are better suited for bulking and cutting but none of them really make you put on a ton more size and none of them really make you a ton more shredded It really is going to just be a matter of picking the cycle that gives you very low side effects so you can train harder longer

 

[117codyawebb]

Old school guys would say 500 test is a good first cycle. Most of us now would say start at 300-400mg of test and then after maybe 6 weeks or so up the dose or you could add something mild. Typically I'd say stay with compounds that don't convert to estrogen. The test has all the estrogen you need and adding something like masteron or any of the dht pro hormones would usually be a safe bet to add a little firepower without adding side effects. 90% of your results from the gear are still going to come down to diet and training. The first couple months on steroids you will get some free lunch tickets lol. But after a while everything's going to kind of balance out. At the end of the day food=mass and the diet and training will determine what that mass looks like. Some steroids are better suited for bulking and cutting but none of them really make you put on a ton more size and none of them really make you a ton more shredded It really is going to just be a matter of picking the cycle that gives you very low side effects so you can train harder longer

Understood. I do have my diet down pretty well. I might consume more carbs or fats for the day but I always have my protein and always in a surplus. Roughly around 3000 calories. Weekends I exceed that, I’ve been able too eat up to 5000 calories but that’s with some junk food and sweets added but my diet mainly consists of meat and rice. Pound of meat a day and around 3-400 grams of carbs of rice mainly and around 75-100grams of fat.

Training is never an issue either always do a 1 rep max at the beginning of every lift ( after a light set to warm up) decrease Weight appropriately and do 2-3 sets to actual failure wether it be 4 reps or 18. Working 1 group of muscle on its own. I get good sleep and take methylated vitamins and live a decently healthy life style.

Only reason I ask about dbol is cause that’s what everyone always talked about blowing your self up. Also heard that after your done taking dbol you lose it even if you still running test

 

[Smont]

Understood. I do have my diet down pretty well. I might consume more carbs or fats for the day but I always have my protein and always in a surplus. Roughly around 3000 calories. Weekends I exceed that, I’ve been able too eat up to 5000 calories but that’s with some junk food and sweets added but my diet mainly consists of meat and rice. Pound of meat a day and around 3-400 grams of carbs of rice mainly and around 75-100grams of fat.

Training is never an issue either always do a 1 rep max at the beginning of every lift ( after a light set to warm up) decrease Weight appropriately and do 2-3 sets to actual failure wether it be 4 reps or 18. Working 1 group of muscle on its own. I get good sleep and take methylated vitamins and live a decently healthy life style.

Only reason I ask about dbol is cause that’s what everyone always talked about blowing your self up. Also heard that after your done taking dbol you lose it even if you still running test

I'm not questioning your diet and training, I'm saying that your diet and training determines the results of the steroids. Yeah dbol blows you up full of water and bloat and that's what the (blow up) part is. All steroids build muscle at roughly the same speed. Muscle doesn't just magically disappear, so when you end a cycle if something disappears it wasn't muscle, it was a cosmetic effect, water, glycogen ect.

 

[Smont]

The greatest genetic freak bodybuilders on 1000's of mg of gear who eat, sleep and breathe bodybuilding gain a average of 12lbs of MUSCLE per YEAR. Keep that in mind. When someone says they gain 30lbs in a cycle, it's not muscle

 

[117codyawebb]

The greatest genetic freak bodybuilders on 1000's of mg of gear who eat, sleep and breathe bodybuilding gain an average of 12lbs of MUSCLE per YEAR. Keep that in mind. When someone says they gain 30lbs in a cycle, it's not muscle

I’m aware of that, I just find the compound its self and capability interesting. I’d would like to try these things out, just trying to hear what people have to see about them and see the risk out weigh the be if it’s to me.

 

[117codyawebb]

I'm not questioning your diet and training, I'm saying that your diet and training determines the results of the steroids. Yeah dbol blows you up full of water and bloat and that's what the (blow up) part is. All steroids build muscle at roughly the same speed. Muscle doesn't just magically disappear, so when you end a cycle if something disappears it wasn't muscle, it was a cosmetic effect, water, glycogen ect.Ahh

I'm not questioning your diet and training, I'm saying that your diet and training determines the results of the steroids. Yeah dbol blows you up full of water and bloat and that's what the (blow up) part is. All steroids build muscle at roughly the same speed. Muscle doesn't just magically disappear, so when you end a cycle if something disappears it wasn't muscle, it was a cosmetic effect, water, glycogen ect.

ahhh i understand what your saying okay that’s very helpful thank you.

 

[Smont]

I’m aware of that, I just find the compound its self and capability interesting. I’d would like to try these things out, just trying to hear what people have to see about them and see the risk out weigh the be if it’s to me.

Capabilities of dbol are very limited- Benefits to dbol are fast gains in weight. Mostly water weight tho. So this is only really beneficial to ppl who need to improve their leverages for PL or someone who wants to just kind of fake the funk and pretend they're getting jacked when they're really just a big bloated mess. Now some guys don't get bloated on dbol, I'm actually one of them and I use to get pretty good results from it but the majority of people do not. Most ppl end up bloated with high blood pressure bad acne and titties/gyno. Some people feel amazing on it and some people feel terrible on it. Overall it's one of the least used for building muscle but very popular amongst strength athletes and teenagers or anyone concerned with gaining weight who doesn't care what type of weight they gain.

If you want to use it then just use it, at the end of the day you're never going to know how it works until you take it. But just keep in mind it is a poor choice for most people because typically it leads to a lot of bloat a lot of side effects and not a lot of actual muscle gained. Which is the whole reason why you see people say that when they come off the gains disappear. It's because they didn't make any gains and that's the mentality of people who don't understand the difference between gaining weight and building muscle.

You don't see many people using it anymore so I doubt you're going to get a ton of feedback on personal experience from people who have actually used it here. Assuming the goal is building muscle, injectable steroids are the way to go.

i would avoid dbol because theres 50 million other drugs that build muscle just as fast that don't have all the side effects.

But again at the end of the day no one hears advice or opinion is going to really tell you what's going on because every single person reacts differently so you got to just do it for yourself and find out

 

[117codyawebb]

Capabilities of dbol are very limited- Benefits to dbol are fast gains in weight. Mostly water weight tho. So this is only really beneficial to ppl who need to improve their leverages for PL or someone who wants to just kind of fake the funk and pretend they're getting jacked when they're really just a big bloated mess. Now some guys don't get bloated on dbol, I'm actually one of them and I use to get pretty good results from it but the majority of people do not. Most ppl end up bloated with high blood pressure bad acne and titties/gyno. Some people feel amazing on it and some people feel terrible on it. Overall it's one of the least used for building muscle but very popular amongst strength athletes and teenagers or anyone concerned with gaining weight who doesn't care what type of weight they gain.

If you want to use it then just use it, at the end of the day you're never going to know how it works until you take it. But just keep in mind it is a poor choice for most people because typically it leads to a lot of bloat a lot of side effects and not a lot of actual muscle gained. Which is the whole reason why you see people say that when they come off the gains disappear. It's because they didn't make any gains and that's the mentality of people who don't understand the difference between gaining weight and building muscle.

You don't see many people using it anymore so I doubt you're going to get a ton of feedback on personal experience from people who have actually used it here. Assuming the goal is building muscle, injectable steroids are the way to go.

i would avoid dbol because theres 50 million other drugs that build muscle just as fast that don't have all the side effects.

But again at the end of the day no one hears advice or opinion is going to really tell you what's going on because every single person reacts differently so you got to just do it for yourself and find out

Thank you brother, I will research other compounds and see where it takes me. Much appreciated

 

[Smont]

Thank you brother, I will research other compounds and see where it takes me. Much appreciated

Spend some time on just testosterone. A good thing that everyone would benefit from early in there steroid career is learning how you handle testosterone at various doses. For example my TRT is 150mg, I can use up to about 450 with no ai and after about 750 I can't control estrogen very well without slamming an AI every single day. So I know my max test dose is somewhere between 450-750. deca even 100mg makes my tits hurt.

Personally when I was in my mid 20's I did a ton of trial and error and for the most part I learned that the only difference between most steroids is side effects. The cosmetic effects like "hardening" you can't even see those cosmetic effects unless you're already extremely lean to begin with. I learned that for me test, mast, and eq are my lowest side effects drugs. I can only use trest and tren in low doses after taking years off and starting back again at 35 and being now 40 in a couple of days, I found out that my tolerance is to things have changed so things may change over time. I hope all this was helpful

 

[Smont]

I used talk to text on my lunch break for that so I apologize if it's kind of all over the place

 

[117codyawebb]

Well I really appreciate the answer of question and pointing me in right direction. I need to do further research into other compounds and get a further understanding, helped a lot.

Is sustanon the same thing as just test? Ik it’s a mix of different test esters. I didn’t know if it was more potent, faster acting or relatively the same as what I’m taking.

 

[Smont]

Well I really appreciate the answer of question and pointing me in right direction. I need to do further research into other compounds and get a further understanding, helped a lot.

Is sustanon the same thing as just test? Ik it’s a mix of different test esters. I didn’t know if it was more potent, faster acting or relatively the same as what I’m taking.

Sust is just different esters. Test is test tho. But sust is a bit tricky to control the estrogen because of all the different esters spiking at different times. Most ugl sust isn't actually sust either, it's usually just a mix of test e, c and prop from the testing I've seen

 

[117codyawebb]

Sust is just different esters. Test is test tho. But sust is a bit tricky to control the estrogen because of all the different esters spiking at different times. Most ugl sust isn't actually sust either, it's usually just a mix of test e, c and prop from the testing I've seen

I thought that was what sis was, was a mix? Is it supposed to something else?