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Donald Trump running for president

So …. Zelensky

wow !!! So Ukraine started the war ? Zelensky bad … Putin good? Damn, got to be honest here you boys really got it figured out…..
The West, NATO and Obama with the Military Industrial Complex with the backing of the banking elites deep state started the war back in 2014 when they invaded overthrowing the President of Ukraine, installed their own puppet and threatened NATO expansion into Russia's borders.

That doesnt equate to Putin being "good" Im just calling everything as I see it.
 
The American people voted and we voted for Trump. And that was in many ways based on the stated policy of ending the war in Ukraine. Plus we are 36 trillion dollars in debt. A bankrupt US with no more weapons on the shelf INVITES the next bully far more than letting this current one prevail.

Sure, I would love to see the Ukrainian people push the Russians back across the border. Show me the plan that doesn't involve US troops which we will not send and US money we do not have.

I think Trump sees the obvious. Ukraine can fight another year, maybe two, and accomplish no more than another 100,000 dead boys. No matter how many guys in New Zealand who never fought want to keep fighting....
 
The American people voted and we voted for Trump. And that was in many ways based on the stated policy of ending the war in Ukraine. Plus we are 36 trillion dollars in debt. A bankrupt US with no more weapons on the shelf INVITES the next bully far more than letting this current one prevail.

Sure, I would love to see the Ukrainian people push the Russians back across the border. Show me the plan that doesn't involve US troops which we will not send and US money we do not have.

I think Trump sees the obvious. Ukraine can fight another year, maybe two, and accomplish no more than another 100,000 dead boys. No matter how many guys in New Zealand who never fought want to keep fighting....
Nice feeling for me that Im on your side on foreign policy for a change :)
 
Nice feeling for me that Im on your side on foreign policy for a change :)

Personally, I think we never should have pushed for Ukraine in NATO. This goes back to John McCain (even before he had official brain damage) and it was sure to lead to this.

I don't follow your often-repeated 2014 election influence theory, though. Before our puppet government in 2014 it was a Russian puppet government. No better. So the Ukrainians overwhelmingly voted for a goofy comic named Zelensky to throw out both the US and Soviet puppet governments and be more independent. I applaud and support that idea!

And since we helped create this problem, I think we have an obligation to help fix it. PLUS the Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom much harder than the last half dozen countries we meddled in (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Yemen, Syria, etc...) they seem to deserve our firm support more than others.

I think a much better solution would have been a much better settlement. Promise Russia no NATO and no offensive missiles staged in Ukraine (as they claim this was their #1 issue) and give them Crimea in exchange for peace terms where the separatist regions stay in Ukraine. BUT we would have to threaten US planes into direct action to force that kind of settlement (as the carrot and stick) and in all reality that opportunity has probably passed us by....

The only choices now are:

1) the Trump peace plan (hopefully freezing the battle lines where they are rather than the full annexed regions Russia claims.

2) European powers fund and fight alongside Ukraine to push Russia/NK/Iran back to the border. (*but know that Russia is willing to lose more bodies to win, than the allies EVER would) and without direct US action I think they likely lose ALL of Ukraine in the end.

3) Or my idea of a better settlement more in the middle, under threat of direct US action (which either makes a better deal happen or starts WW3.... risky)


Normally I would say if we had to fight Russia there is no better time than now. We trained our whole lives for this, and our entire military was designed to win this fight. BUT if we drain ourselves that much more, CHina could finish us off to become the singular world superpower. And that is no Bueno ....
 
Now THIS is karma..... LOL
 

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Personally, I think we never should have pushed for Ukraine in NATO. This goes back to John McCain (even before he had official brain damage) and it was sure to lead to this.

I don't follow your often-repeated 2014 election influence theory, though. Before our puppet government in 2014 it was a Russian puppet government. No better. So the Ukrainians overwhelmingly voted for a goofy comic named Zelensky to throw out both the US and Soviet puppet governments and be more independent. I applaud and support that idea!

And since we helped create this problem, I think we have an obligation to help fix it. PLUS the Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom much harder than the last half dozen countries we meddled in (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Yemen, Syria, etc...) they seem to deserve our firm support more than others.

I think a much better solution would have been a much better settlement. Promise Russia no NATO and no offensive missiles staged in Ukraine (as they claim this was their #1 issue) and give them Crimea in exchange for peace terms where the separatist regions stay in Ukraine. BUT we would have to threaten US planes into direct action to force that kind of settlement (as the carrot and stick) and in all reality that opportunity has probably passed us by....

The only choices now are:

1) the Trump peace plan (hopefully freezing the battle lines where they are rather than the full annexed regions Russia claims.

2) European powers fund and fight alongside Ukraine to push Russia/NK/Iran back to the border. (*but know that Russia is willing to lose more bodies to win, than the allies EVER would) and without direct US action I think they likely lose ALL of Ukraine in the end.

3) Or my idea of a better settlement more in the middle, under threat of direct US action (which either makes a better deal happen or starts WW3.... risky)


Normally I would say if we had to fight Russia there is no better time than now. We trained our whole lives for this, and our entire military was designed to win this fight. BUT if we drain ourselves that much more, CHina could finish us off to become the singular world superpower. And that is no Bueno ....
Everything you stated is reasonable even if I were to debate a issue here and there (and continue to so so in the future :) ) with what you posted, but really very very reasonable to me.

If we start a war directly with Russia no preparation is going to do that much when the nukes start flying as a last resort defense. I want no part of that, just want to be frenemies and do trade with them.
 
Everything you stated is reasonable even if I were to debate a issue here and there (and continue to so so in the future :) ) with what you posted, but really very very reasonable to me.

If we start a war directly with Russia no preparation is going to do that much when the nukes start flying as a last resort defense. I want no part of that, just want to be frenemies and do trade with them.
You've already started a war with China. You can't be that afraid 😂
 
You've already started a war with China. You can't be that afraid 😂

China has been planning to take over the world for a thousand years... Trump is just the first guy who had the balls to push back.

NZ has become so communist they might not even notice when they are absorbed.... LOL
 
You've already started a war with China. You can't be that afraid 😂
Im considering planning on revoking my US Citizenship and moving to the Republic of Molossia. Its much safer there and they have their own navy.
 
China has been planning to take over the world for a thousand years... Trump is just the first guy who had the balls to push back.

NZ has become so communist they might not even notice when they are absorbed.... LOL
Trump withdraws aid to Ukraine

"Trump just wants peace"

Trump states he will take over Greenland

"Trump is just making sure that the US is secure"

Trump starts trade war with China

"Trump is the only one with the balls to push back"

You guys don't even know which narrative to push anymore. He wants peace, yet starts wars with his allies and China?

You're all so brainwashed that when he wanted to ban tik tok, you sang his name and wave his flag. Then he unbanned it, and you sang his name and waved his flag.

He could take away all of your rights tomorrow, and you'd sing his name and waved his flag, and then when he gave you some right back, you'd sing his name and wave his flag 😂
 

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Trump withdraws aid to Ukraine

"Trump just wants peace"

Trump states he will take over Greenland

"Trump is just making sure that the US is secure"

Trump starts trade war with China

"Trump is the only one with the balls to push back"

You guys don't even know which narrative to push anymore. He wants peace, yet starts wars with his allies and China?

You're all so brainwashed that when he wanted to ban tik tok, you sang his name and wave his flag. Then he unbanned it, and you sang his name and waved his flag.

He could take away all of your rights tomorrow, and you'd sing his name and waved his flag, and then when he gave you some right back, you'd sing his name and wave his flag

I have a nice supply of iodine tablets for my family and neighbors in hand. (Im not too far from NYC)
 
I hope you mean "Potassium Iodide" (KI) for thyrioid radiation and not regular "iodine" like for boo-boos....
I appreciate you checking, you never know lol....gotta be careful with the bulk powder for sure but thats last resort....it was CCP-Virus lockdown era when I was in super prepping mode, the best I can get, the official stuff whatever it was called was out of stock and selling for alot of money on eBay at the time.
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Trump withdraws aid to Ukraine

"Trump just wants peace"

Trump states he will take over Greenland

"Trump is just making sure that the US is secure"

Trump starts trade war with China

"Trump is the only one with the balls to push back"

You guys don't even know which narrative to push anymore. He wants peace, yet starts wars with his allies and China?

You're all so brainwashed that when he wanted to ban tik tok, you sang his name and wave his flag. Then he unbanned it, and you sang his name and waved his flag.

He could take away all of your rights tomorrow, and you'd sing his name and waved his flag, and then when he gave you some right back, you'd sing his name and wave his flag 😂

Shut your caulk-sukker you Pedo-Loving phaggot...
 
Come guys lets not elevate this into not stop personal bashing please, we have had this political thread up for so many years, would love many more thanks.

Having liberals in here make this place better to no matter how much we may disagree with them, lets just disagree with them and poke fun here and there.

Just my 2 cents, Im not a mod.
 
Trump withdraws aid to Ukraine
"Trump just wants peace"
We provided Ukraine more aid than any other country by FAR, for 3 years. But Trump is now leveraging aid to force both parties to the negotiating table, in a quest for peace. Liberal globalists want to prolong an unwinnable war = the more death = opposite of peace.
Trump states he will take over Greenland
"Trump is just making sure that the US is secure"
Trump has an obligation to ensure the US is safe, and he has not attacked Greenland. Don't be hysterical.
Trump starts trade war with China
"Trump is the only one with the balls to push back"
You guys don't even know which narrative to push anymore. He wants peace, yet starts wars with his allies and China?
You are crying over a trade war but encouraging continuation of an actual shooting war?!?! And you think WE are unaware about which narrative is being pushed?? LOL . Meanwhile, China is doing live fire drills in the Tasman Sea. Be sure to wave your LGBTQIR+ rainbow flag when they land in Aukland. They will love you long time....
 
We provided Ukraine more aid than any other country by FAR, for 3 years. But Trump is now leveraging aid to force both parties to the negotiating table, in a quest for peace. Liberal globalists want to prolong an unwinnable war = the more death = opposite of peace.

Trump has an obligation to ensure the US is safe, and he has not attacked Greenland. Don't be hysterical.

You are crying over a trade war but encouraging continuation of an actual shooting war?!?! And you think WE are unaware about which narrative is being pushed?? LOL . Meanwhile, China is doing live fire drills in the Tasman Sea. Be sure to wave your LGBTQIR+ rainbow flag when they land in Aukland. They will love you long time....
NZ need to stockpile these, they would then never invade, just like they invaded the Maori People who werent armed with woke tanks.

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We provided Ukraine more aid than any other country by FAR, for 3 years. But Trump is now leveraging aid to force both parties to the negotiating table, in a quest for peace. Liberal globalists want to prolong an unwinnable war = the more death = opposite of peace.

Trump has an obligation to ensure the US is safe, and he has not attacked Greenland. Don't be hysterical.

You are crying over a trade war but encouraging continuation of an actual shooting war?!?! And you think WE are unaware about which narrative is being pushed?? LOL . Meanwhile, China is doing live fire drills in the Tasman Sea. Be sure to wave your LGBTQIR+ rainbow flag when they land in Aukland. They will love you long time....
Russian state media is literally praising Trump for being pro Russia, lol. I mean, the whole world knows he is, but the crazy part is that they don't even hide it anymore. We all know he took Russian loans to bail him out. We all know he is simply paying his debt.

Trump can do whatever he likes to ensure the US is safe, within it's own borders. The fact that buy the line that it is for "strategic purposes" only shows that you gobble up the propaganda.

I'm laughing at the hypocrisy of people thinking that Trump is pro-peace. He literally back down from tariffs again after the economy took a nose dive. Today? Maybe he'll threaten them again. Who knows 😂
 
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I'm laughing at the hypocrisy of people thinking that Trump is pro-peace. He literally back down from tariffs again after the economy took a nose dive. Today? Maybe he'll threaten them again. Who knows 😂
He most definitely is not pro-peace, just less "war time" that other presidents in my lifetime but certainly his history with supplying regimes with weapons directly contributing to genocides such as in Saudi's to Yemen and Isreali's to Gaza is most certainly not so "pro-peace" but pro-genocide.
 
He most definitely is not pro-peace, just less "war time" that other presidents in my lifetime but certainly his history with supplying regimes with weapons directly contributing to genocides such as in Saudi's to Yemen and Isreali's to Gaza is most certainly not so "pro-peace" but pro-genocide.
Fox News had a melt down when one of their reporters went to a Dodge car yard, and the guy said that because of Trump's tariffs, the price of importing a Dodge ram went from 80,000 to 100,000. You can watch the anchors programming kick in after being unable to speak properly for 30 seconds.

I found the link 😂

 
Fox News had a melt down when one of their reporters went to a Dodge car yard, and the guy said that because of Trump's tariffs, the price of importing a Dodge ram went from 80,000 to 100,000. You can watch the anchors programming kick in after being unable to speak properly for 30 seconds.

I found the link 😂
lol! What upsets me is I may not be able to get Toyota's or Honda's out of Japan anymore, they may be building them here and that will more than likely equate to a decrease in quality. Toyota already is making some cars in Mexico and those are the ones to avoid. If it's not built in Japan is more than likely wont be the same standard.

I have to see how these tariffs wars turn out being that the system we already had in place was leading our country into economic destruction so its hard for me to complain about much of what Trump is doing yet and I realize there is going to be some instability in prices which Ill deal with. We will see, then I judge gonna take time.
 
lol! What upsets me is I may not be able to get Toyota's or Honda's out of Japan anymore, they may be building them here and that will more than likely equate to a decrease in quality. Toyota already is making some cars in Mexico and those are the ones to avoid. If it's not built in Japan is more than likely wont be the same standard.

I have to see how these tariffs wars turn out being that the system we already had in place was leading our country into economic destruction so its hard for me to complain about much of what Trump is doing yet and I realize there is going to be some instability in prices which Ill deal with. We will see, then I judge gonna take time.
The system around tariffs that you had in place wasn't destroying you, it is everything else. Wages have remained stagnant for decades, but the costs of everything else has sky rocketed. That's not the fault of tariffs. We were literally being taught in economics the theory of "trickle down economics", which turned out to be the biggest crock of sh*t ever 😂 all the wealth just got hoarded at the top.

The system is broken everywhere, because the people who broke the system stand to gain from it being broken.

Do you think Trump is going to give the extra tariffs from exports BACK to those business owners? Of course not. It'll just go back into the govt. People are expecting their lives to be "affordable" again but fail to realize that it is simply the business owners all over the world just raising prices and pocketing the extra
 
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The system around tariffs that you had in place wasn't destroying you, it is everything else. Wages have remained stagnant for decades, but the costs of everything else has sky rocketed. That's not the fault of tariffs. We were literally being taught in economics the theory of "trickle down economics", which turned out to be the biggest crock of sh*t ever all the wealth just got hoarded at the top.

The system is broken everywhere, because the people who broke the system stand to gain from it being broken.

Oh for sure, the entire system here needs to be gutted inside out here, the level of corruption, the private Federal Reserve and endless money printing, IRS penalizing productive behavior with the threat of the the gun, the USA being the most socialist country in the planet, etc I can go on and on.
 
Russian state media is literally praising Trump for being pro Russia, lol. I mean, the whole world knows he is, but the crazy part is that they don't even hide it anymore. We all know he took Russian loans to bail him out. We all know he is simply paying his debt.

Trump can do whatever he likes to ensure the US is safe, within it's own borders. The fact that buy the line that it is for "strategic purposes" only shows that you gobble up the propaganda.

I'm laughing at the hypocrisy of people thinking that Trump is pro-peace. He literally back down from tariffs again after the economy took a nose dive. Today? Maybe he'll threaten them again. Who knows 😂
Every time you try to push another fake Trump/Russia narrative, we are laughing at you! You also believed in the Russian collusion hoax, and the pee-tape, and the "insurrection".... and we laughed at you then, too!

We were laughing at you when you jabbed yourself with vaccines and boosters and caught covid anyway, and we laughed when you happily locked yourself away in your own home, never REALLY knowing freedom or independence.

We STILL laugh at you when you claim there are more than two-genders, and that boys can put on a dress to beat girls in sporting events and call themselves a champion!

Your socialist liberalism was such an abject failure here they had to rename it as "progressive", the same way the "global warming" con had to be renamed "climate change". And still you prattle on with an air of self righteousness. Hysterical !!

Your opinion would be considered worthless here in America simply because it was proven wrong so many times. It is actually LESS than irrelevant coming from an insignificant island in the middle of nowhere. Were it not for the internet (that Americans also invented) no one would hear you at all....

But please, carry on as if you could share something of value. LOL
 
Every time you try to push another fake Trump/Russia narrative, we are laughing at you! You also believed in the Russian collusion hoax, and the pee-tape, and the "insurrection".... and we laughed at you then, too!

We were laughing at you when you jabbed yourself with vaccines and boosters and caught covid anyway, and we laughed when you happily locked yourself away in your own home, never REALLY knowing freedom or independence.

We STILL laugh at you when you claim there are more than two-genders, and that boys can put on a dress to beat girls in sporting events and call themselves a champion!

Your socialist liberalism was such an abject failure here they had to rename it as "progressive", the same way the "global warming" con had to be renamed "climate change". And still you prattle on with an air of self righteousness. Hysterical !!

Your opinion would be considered worthless here in America simply because it was proven wrong so many times. It is actually LESS than irrelevant coming from an insignificant island in the middle of nowhere. Were it not for the internet (that Americans also invented) no one would hear you at all....

But please, carry on as if you could share something of value. LOL
Except it isn't fake news 😂 you can literally look up who bankrolled Trump in the 90's, go ahead use the internet and try it yourself

It's laughable how upset you are, and yet you call us snowflakes. Didn't you storm a capital because you were so mad your dear leader lost?

When you go to Church, who do you worship, sky daddy or Trump?

Also, we might be small, but we split the atom. You can thank us for that
 
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Except it isn't fake news 😂 you can literally look up who bankrolled Trump in the 90's, go ahead use the internet and try it yourself

It's laughable how upset you are, and yet you call us snowflakes. Didn't you storm a capital because you were so mad your dear leader lost?

When you go to Church, who do you worship, sky daddy or Trump?

Also, we might be small, but we split the atom. You can thank us for that

Your reality is just so backwards. Your socialist-liberals always accuse the 'other' side of exactly what they are doing themselves.

I am certainly not upset. I just spent a page mocking and laughing at you, everything you believe and everything you stand for. My use of words like hysterical and LOL are the opposite of upset. The same way you confuse war with peace. Its your liberal bizarro world. It seems that in fact YOU are really upset about Trump being the leader of the free world, seething that he is your new Daddy. While your tiny little island-park follows with virtually no influence at all, like a gently little leaf drifting in the wind/wake of the roaring Trump Train. It must be maddening for you... since you think you have such valuable wisdom to share... and again, hysterical for me.

No one cares what bank deals Trump made 30 years ago as a private businessman. He's also gone bankrupt several times and been divorced almost as many. But here is is today, a billionaire yet again with a wife even hotter than the last, and the most powerful man in the world!! LOLOLOL

Meanwhile, your hero Sleepy-Joe was grifting money for his family (and taking his 10% as the "Big Guy") from the Russians AND the Chinese while he was still Vice President (when he was hitting the old 'reset button' with Russia, and then let Putin take Crimea). Those same Chinese are doing live fire gun boat drills off the coast of New Zealand. Forget the internet, just look out your window, and then put your head back in the sand (an ostrich reference for you, by Crikey) :ROFLMAO::D:giggle:;)
 
Your reality is just so backwards. Your socialist-liberals always accuse the 'other' side of exactly what they are doing themselves.

I am certainly not upset. I just spent a page mocking and laughing at you, everything you believe and everything you stand for. My use of words like hysterical and LOL are the opposite of upset. The same way you confuse war with peace. Its your liberal bizarro world. It seems that in fact YOU are really upset about Trump being the leader of the free world, seething that he is your new Daddy. While your tiny little island-park follows with virtually no influence at all, like a gently little leaf drifting in the wind/wake of the roaring Trump Train. It must be maddening for you... since you think you have such valuable wisdom to share... and again, hysterical for me.

No one cares what bank deals Trump made 30 years ago as a private businessman. He's also gone bankrupt several times and been divorced almost as many. But here is is today, a billionaire yet again with a wife even hotter than the last, and the most powerful man in the world!! LOLOLOL

Meanwhile, your hero Sleepy-Joe was grifting money for his family (and taking his 10% as the "Big Guy") from the Russians AND the Chinese while he was still Vice President (when he was hitting the old 'reset button' with Russia, and then let Putin take Crimea). Those same Chinese are doing live fire gun boat drills off the coast of New Zealand. Forget the internet, just look out your window, and then put your head back in the sand (an ostrich reference for you, by Crikey) :ROFLMAO::D:giggle:;)
It doesn't surprise me that an American doesn't understand the difference between Australia and New Zealand, but the paragraph you wrote was hardly a mock. I don't worship politicians, I don't get upset when someone mocks someone I support. Republicans get VERY upset, and take it personally.

You may not care what Trump did 30 years ago, and that's because you're the same group of people that praised Trump for wanting to ban tik tok, and then praised him again for unbanning it, like he's a hero. We call that Stockholm syndrome, where you praise your captor for giving you things that they took away.

Now you praise Trump for the tarrifs that he can't decide if he wants to pursue. But you praise him for flip flopping. It's bizarre
 
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It doesn't surprise me that an American doesn't understand the difference between Australia and New Zealand, but the paragraph you wrote was hardly a mock. I don't worship politicians, I don't get upset when someone mocks someone I support. Republicans get VERY upset, and take it personally.

You may not care what Trump did 30 years ago, and that's because you're the same group of people that praised Trump for wanting to ban tik tok, and then praised him again for unbanning it, like he's a hero. We call that Stockholm syndrome, where you praise your captor for giving you things that they took away.

Now you praise Trump for the tarrifs that he can't decide if he wants to pursue. But you praise him for flip flopping. It's bizarre
Cult-47
 
Your reality is just so backwards. Your socialist-liberals always accuse the 'other' side of exactly what they are doing themselves.

I am certainly not upset. I just spent a page mocking and laughing at you, everything you believe and everything you stand for. My use of words like hysterical and LOL are the opposite of upset. The same way you confuse war with peace. Its your liberal bizarro world. It seems that in fact YOU are really upset about Trump being the leader of the free world, seething that he is your new Daddy. While your tiny little island-park follows with virtually no influence at all, like a gently little leaf drifting in the wind/wake of the roaring Trump Train. It must be maddening for you... since you think you have such valuable wisdom to share... and again, hysterical for me.

No one cares what bank deals Trump made 30 years ago as a private businessman. He's also gone bankrupt several times and been divorced almost as many. But here is is today, a billionaire yet again with a wife even hotter than the last, and the most powerful man in the world!! LOLOLOL

Meanwhile, your hero Sleepy-Joe was grifting money for his family (and taking his 10% as the "Big Guy") from the Russians AND the Chinese while he was still Vice President (when he was hitting the old 'reset button' with Russia, and then let Putin take Crimea). Those same Chinese are doing live fire gun boat drills off the coast of New Zealand. Forget the internet, just look out your window, and then put your head back in the sand (an ostrich reference for you, by Crikey) :ROFLMAO::D:giggle:;)
This is from the Grok AI:

To assess the likelihood that Donald Trump is a "Russian asset" on a scale of 1 to 100, I’ll evaluate publicly available data from his business dealings, political behavior, and interactions with Russian figures, while considering alternative explanations. The term "Russian asset" here implies someone who, wittingly or unwittingly, advances Russian interests, either through direct compromise (e.g., financial leverage or kompromat) or as a "useful idiot" aligning with Moscow’s goals due to personal incentives.

Starting with historical context, Trump’s ties to Russia stretch back decades. In 1987, he visited Moscow at the invitation of Soviet officials, a trip followed by a shift in his public rhetoric—such as a full-page ad criticizing NATO and U.S. alliances, aligning with Soviet interests at the time. Former KGB officer Yuri Shvets has claimed this was part of an effort to cultivate Trump, though no definitive proof of recruitment exists. From the 1990s onward, after facing financial difficulties in the U.S., Trump relied heavily on foreign capital, including from Russian and post-Soviet oligarchs. Public records show at least $109 million in all-cash purchases of Trump properties by such individuals between 2003 and 2017, raising questions about potential money laundering or leverage. His sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, reinforced this dependence: Donald Jr. said in 2008, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” and Eric claimed in 2014, “We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Trump’s 2016 campaign further fuels suspicion. The U.S. Intelligence Community concluded Russia interfered to favor him, with over 100 documented contacts between his campaign and Russian operatives. The Mueller Report didn’t prove a criminal conspiracy but highlighted these interactions, while the Senate Intelligence Committee noted secretive meetings signaling little intent to punish Russia’s election meddling. Post-presidency, Trump’s refusal to criticize Vladimir Putin—unlike his frequent attacks on U.S. allies—stands out. His recent policy moves, like pausing aid to Ukraine and blaming Kyiv for the war, align with Putin’s narrative. Financial opacity, such as hiding tax returns and seizing interpreter notes after Putin meetings, adds to the circumstantial case.

However, gaps remain. No "smoking gun"—like direct evidence of Putin’s control—has surfaced publicly. Alternatives include Trump’s actions stemming from personal admiration for Putin, ideological alignment, or simple naivety rather than compromise. His ego and business pragmatism could explain some behavior without Russian direction. The lack of classified intelligence in the public domain limits certainty.

Weighing this, the pattern of financial ties, consistent pro-Russia behavior, and intelligence suggesting intent (e.g., leaked Kremlin documents from 2021 alleging Putin saw Trump as exploitable) is compelling. The "useful idiot" scenario—where Trump’s debts and personality make him pliable—fits strongly. Adjusting for uncertainty and alternatives, I estimate a 75-85% likelihood that Trump is a Russian asset, leaning toward 85% due to the cumulative weight of evidence. On a 1-100 scale, this translates to a point estimate of 85, with a confidence range of 75-85. The remaining 15-25% reflects the absence of conclusive proof, which only classified data could resolve.
 
This is from the Grok AI:

To assess the likelihood that Donald Trump is a "Russian asset" on a scale of 1 to 100, I’ll evaluate publicly available data from his business dealings, political behavior, and interactions with Russian figures, while considering alternative explanations. The term "Russian asset" here implies someone who, wittingly or unwittingly, advances Russian interests, either through direct compromise (e.g., financial leverage or kompromat) or as a "useful idiot" aligning with Moscow’s goals due to personal incentives.

Starting with historical context, Trump’s ties to Russia stretch back decades. In 1987, he visited Moscow at the invitation of Soviet officials, a trip followed by a shift in his public rhetoric—such as a full-page ad criticizing NATO and U.S. alliances, aligning with Soviet interests at the time. Former KGB officer Yuri Shvets has claimed this was part of an effort to cultivate Trump, though no definitive proof of recruitment exists. From the 1990s onward, after facing financial difficulties in the U.S., Trump relied heavily on foreign capital, including from Russian and post-Soviet oligarchs. Public records show at least $109 million in all-cash purchases of Trump properties by such individuals between 2003 and 2017, raising questions about potential money laundering or leverage. His sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, reinforced this dependence: Donald Jr. said in 2008, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” and Eric claimed in 2014, “We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Trump’s 2016 campaign further fuels suspicion. The U.S. Intelligence Community concluded Russia interfered to favor him, with over 100 documented contacts between his campaign and Russian operatives. The Mueller Report didn’t prove a criminal conspiracy but highlighted these interactions, while the Senate Intelligence Committee noted secretive meetings signaling little intent to punish Russia’s election meddling. Post-presidency, Trump’s refusal to criticize Vladimir Putin—unlike his frequent attacks on U.S. allies—stands out. His recent policy moves, like pausing aid to Ukraine and blaming Kyiv for the war, align with Putin’s narrative. Financial opacity, such as hiding tax returns and seizing interpreter notes after Putin meetings, adds to the circumstantial case.

However, gaps remain. No "smoking gun"—like direct evidence of Putin’s control—has surfaced publicly. Alternatives include Trump’s actions stemming from personal admiration for Putin, ideological alignment, or simple naivety rather than compromise. His ego and business pragmatism could explain some behavior without Russian direction. The lack of classified intelligence in the public domain limits certainty.

Weighing this, the pattern of financial ties, consistent pro-Russia behavior, and intelligence suggesting intent (e.g., leaked Kremlin documents from 2021 alleging Putin saw Trump as exploitable) is compelling. The "useful idiot" scenario—where Trump’s debts and personality make him pliable—fits strongly. Adjusting for uncertainty and alternatives, I estimate a 75-85% likelihood that Trump is a Russian asset, leaning toward 85% due to the cumulative weight of evidence. On a 1-100 scale, this translates to a point estimate of 85, with a confidence range of 75-85. The remaining 15-25% reflects the absence of conclusive proof, which only classified data could resolve.
Since NZ also didn't invent AI, let me explain how this works. AI 'learns' from publicly available information. The main stream liberal-globalist media publishes 90% negative stories about Trump. Thus AI would collect and repeat from that available information. Its the worlds smartest parrot, or Kiwi as the case may be. LOL

HOW could any informed human think that Trump is a Russian asset when he is the only President to have actively engaged US forces to kill Russians?!?!?! Look up the battle of Khasham, dummy. Remember that little dance in Syria... where Obama/Biden rolled over like bitches for Putin??? Russia laughed at weak democrat threats of red-lines and it was Trump who sent actual cruise missiles. Remember when Putin threatened he would shoot down out missiles, and Trump sent this mocking tweet??? Of course you don't, because you are a liberal-globalist parrot, too. LOL
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I suppose you don't remember when Obama got caught on a hot mic giving away our new missile defense system because it upset the Russians. Gave it away for nothing to appease Putin!! And Obama got caught rolling over for Putin and trying to hide it because it would make him look liberal-globalist weak (like you) during an election year. I bet Europe would REALLY like to have our missile defense in place right about now, huh?? :ROFLMAO::LOL: Actual words on video here (not imagined AI nonsense...)


Did your little AI story say if Trump paid back his Russian loans??? That would be a pretty important part of the story, right? You are like a NZ version of that chubby Col. Vindman (who looked terrible in uniform, I might add) spreading misinformation trying to overthrow the duly elected President.

Meanwhile, the Biden team who wants to keep fighting endlessly for Ukraine actually got paid by Ukraine. Money grifted to his crackhead son Biden of which 10% goes to the "Big Guy". Other than access for meetings with Joe Biden, what did Hunter Biden actually provide to Ukraine for those Millions??? That 'cuck Obama sent Ukraine blankets. Trump sent them Javelin missiles!!

Why did anonymous Chinese donors send millions to UPenn, who then paid Joe Biden??? Did Biden teach any classes? Why exactly did UPenn pay Biden... what service or business or actions did he perform to earn that money? Hmmm??

We could go on and on, but your TDS runs deep and you are virtually incapable of seeing anything other than [russian] red when you look at your new Daddy, Trump. And luckily you remain tucked away on a tiny island where no one important can ever hear you.... except maybe the Chinese who are creeping ever closer. They are literally training to take over NZ right now with live-fire drills in the Tasman Sea, while you weep about the mean orange man and tap angrily on computer keys with soft little hands. LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Since NZ also didn't invent AI, let me explain how this works. AI 'learns' from publicly available information. The main stream liberal-globalist media publishes 90% negative stories about Trump. Thus AI would collect and repeat from that available information. Its the worlds smartest parrot, or Kiwi as the case may be. LOL

HOW could any informed human think that Trump is a Russian asset when he is the only President to have actively engaged US forces to kill Russians?!?!?! Look up the battle of Khasham, dummy. Remember that little dance in Syria... where Obama/Biden rolled over like bitches for Putin??? Russia laughed at weak democrat threats of red-lines and it was Trump who sent actual cruise missiles. Remember when Putin threatened he would shoot down out missiles, and Trump sent this mocking tweet??? Of course you don't, because you are a liberal-globalist parrot, too. LOL
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I suppose you don't remember when Obama got caught on a hot mic giving away our new missile defense system because it upset the Russians. Gave it away for nothing to appease Putin!! And Obama got caught rolling over for Putin and trying to hide it because it would make him look liberal-globalist weak (like you) during an election year. I bet Europe would REALLY like to have our missile defense in place right about now, huh?? :ROFLMAO::LOL: Actual words on video here (not imagined AI nonsense...)


Did your little AI story say if Trump paid back his Russian loans??? That would be a pretty important part of the story, right? You are like a NZ version of that chubby Col. Vindman (who looked terrible in uniform, I might add) spreading misinformation trying to overthrow the duly elected President.

Meanwhile, the Biden team who wants to keep fighting endlessly for Ukraine actually got paid by Ukraine. Money grifted to his crackhead son Biden of which 10% goes to the "Big Guy". Other than access for meetings with Joe Biden, what did Hunter Biden actually provide to Ukraine for those Millions??? That 'cuck Obama sent Ukraine blankets. Trump sent them Javelin missiles!!

Why did anonymous Chinese donors send millions to UPenn, who then paid Joe Biden??? Did Biden teach any classes? Why exactly did UPenn pay Biden... what service or business or actions did he perform to earn that money? Hmmm??

We could go on and on, but your TDS runs deep and you are virtually incapable of seeing anything other than [russian] red when you look at your new Daddy, Trump. And luckily you remain tucked away on a tiny island where no one important can ever hear you.... except maybe the Chinese who are creeping ever closer. They are literally training to take over NZ right now with live-fire drills in the Tasman Sea, while you weep about the mean orange man and tap angrily on computer keys with soft little hands. LOLOLOLOLOL
If I ask AI to create a picture of a dog flying on a boomerang, it will produce a picture of a dog flying on a boomerang. If I ask it to paint it in the style of Van Gogh, it will paint it in the style of Van Gogh.

If I ask AI to create a simulation of data sorting algorithms, it creates a simulation of data sorting algorithms. If I ask it to sort it by slowest to fastest, it will sort it by slowest to fastest.

If I ask AI to create a bash script that would allow me to create copies of certain files, then it will create a bash script that will allow me to create copies of certain files. If I ask it to only copy .py files, it will only copy .py files.

But somehow, despite that, it gets this thing wrong about Trump. I mean, if an AI built by Elon, the co-President, even knows Trump is aligned with Russia, there is probably merit to that.

The fact you take any negative comments about Trump so personally should flag to you that maybe, just maybe, you're blinded to actual reality. Loving a politician this much is not normal. I bet you laugh and scoff at Taylor Swift fans, but you are the Trump equivalent of a Taylor Swift fan.

CHina might be conducting live firing drills near us, but you literally elected a Russian asset as President 😂 the whole world knows it. I like that you point out a single tweet to somehow disprove that Trump is a Russian asset. If you're so easily conned, I bet you also believe Elon founded Tesla 😂😂
 
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I just don’t understand what’s the hold up …. I don’t want to pay federal taxes…let Canada pay up …they been doing all those bad things to us like …..like …. $hit I got to go…
 
If I ask AI to create a picture of a dog flying on a boomerang, it will produce a picture of a dog flying on a boomerang. If I ask it to paint it in the style of Van Gogh, it will paint it in the style of Van Gogh.

If I ask AI to create a simulation of data sorting algorithms, it creates a simulation of data sorting algorithms. If I ask it to sort it by slowest to fastest, it will sort it by slowest to fastest.

If I ask AI to create a bash script that would allow me to create copies of certain files, then it will create a bash script that will allow me to create copies of certain files. If I ask it to only copy .py files, it will only copy .py files.

But somehow, despite that, it gets this thing wrong about Trump. I mean, if an AI built by Elon, the co-President, even knows Trump is aligned with Russia, there is probably merit to that.

The fact you take any negative comments about Trump so personally should flag to you that maybe, just maybe, you're blinded to actual reality. Loving a politician this much is not normal. I bet you laugh and scoff at Taylor Swift fans, but you are the Trump equivalent of a Taylor Swift fan.

CHina might be conducting live firing drills near us, but you literally elected a Russian asset as President 😂 the whole world knows it. I like that you point out a single tweet to somehow disprove that Trump is a Russian asset. If you're so easily conned, I bet you also believe Elon founded Tesla 😂😂

AI can only produce results based on available data. Thus if 90% of the leftist-globalist media was anti-Trump pushing a fake Russia narrative, the AI search would similarly reach a fake Russia conclusion. Just like YOU do after consuming the same steady diet of leftist propaganda. Plus some inherent AI algorithm bias, like when Google AI infamously envisioned George Washington as a black man because woke input produces woke output. Again, just like YOU. :LOL:

How can I prove the AI Trump-Russia conclusions are based on woke leftist bias and bad input?? Because it does not include any (zero = 0) factual examples of Trump opposing Russian influence and goals. It was much more than "a single tweet"... Trump launched 50 actual cruise missiles into Syria with Russian military advisors on the ground. Putin then said if you try that again, Russia air defense missiles would shoot them down. Trump didn't back down at all (like your spineless hero Obama) and sent that tweet daring Putin to try, and then sending another volley of missiles into Syria. Trump also let our troops battle directly with the Russian mercenaries in Syria (Khasham area) killing apx 200 Russians. How do you figure that the only US president to actually fight and kill Russians is the guy you now believe to be a Russian asset? LOLOLOL

Obama/Biden let Russia take Crimea from Ukraine (not Russian assets?)
Obama/Biden cancelled our European missile shield to appease Putin (not Russian assets?)
Trump kills Russians in Syria, and Russia doesn't touch Ukraine (Russian asset? :LOL:)
Biden/Kamala lets Russia take another 20% of Ukraine (not Russian assets?)
Biden/Kamala run away from Afghanistan leaving the Taliban our equipment (not Russian assets?)
Trump tries to end the war he didn't start and save 100,000 lives (Nobel Peace Prize? :unsure:)

I really don't get upset about half baked claims from the TDS crowd. Its simply too ridiculous to take seriously. Rather, I take the opportunity to point out that you goofy liberals love to accuse the other side of things you are actually doing yourself.

You simply fail to see the much MORE likely conclusion... that you are afflicted by TDS and have become the liberal stooge equivalent of a Taylor Swift fan (a more accurate analogy being that they, too, are mindless liberals repeating song lyrics like you chant far-left talking points)

How much money has the Biden family collectively taken from Russia, China, and Ukraine???? And what legitimate business or skill/service did they provide for that money? Why would Biden's granddaughter have been wired money from a Romanian source after Joe Biden visited Romania? For a guy who has so much to say, you sure get quiet on the subject of Biden family grift! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

This country, and generally the world, are roughly split between left and right... and at this point the right has the plurality if not complete victory for its political mandate. All that left-wing covid lock-down open-border climate-hysteria nonsense has doomed your Marxist goals for at least another decade. Italy rebounded to the right, along with Argentina and several other freedom loving nations. Even your horse toothed NZ president lady ran away after her heavy handed covid-oppression. And to come full circle, THAT TOO shows the real Stockholm Syndrome you tried to falsly blame on the other side... yet again.
 
AI can only produce results based on available data. Thus if 90% of the leftist-globalist media was anti-Trump pushing a fake Russia narrative, the AI search would similarly reach a fake Russia conclusion. Just like YOU do after consuming the same steady diet of leftist propaganda. Plus some inherent AI algorithm bias, like when Google AI infamously envisioned George Washington as a black man because woke input produces woke output. Again, just like YOU. :LOL:

How can I prove the AI Trump-Russia conclusions are based on woke leftist bias and bad input?? Because it does not include any (zero = 0) factual examples of Trump opposing Russian influence and goals. It was much more than "a single tweet"... Trump launched 50 actual cruise missiles into Syria with Russian military advisors on the ground. Putin then said if you try that again, Russia air defense missiles would shoot them down. Trump didn't back down at all (like your spineless hero Obama) and sent that tweet daring Putin to try, and then sending another volley of missiles into Syria. Trump also let our troops battle directly with the Russian mercenaries in Syria (Khasham area) killing apx 200 Russians. How do you figure that the only US president to actually fight and kill Russians is the guy you now believe to be a Russian asset? LOLOLOL

Obama/Biden let Russia take Crimea from Ukraine (not Russian assets?)
Obama/Biden cancelled our European missile shield to appease Putin (not Russian assets?)
Trump kills Russians in Syria, and Russia doesn't touch Ukraine (Russian asset? :LOL:)
Biden/Kamala lets Russia take another 20% of Ukraine (not Russian assets?)
Biden/Kamala run away from Afghanistan leaving the Taliban our equipment (not Russian assets?)
Trump tries to end the war he didn't start and save 100,000 lives (Nobel Peace Prize? :unsure:)

I really don't get upset about half baked claims from the TDS crowd. Its simply too ridiculous to take seriously. Rather, I take the opportunity to point out that you goofy liberals love to accuse the other side of things you are actually doing yourself.

You simply fail to see the much MORE likely conclusion... that you are afflicted by TDS and have become the liberal stooge equivalent of a Taylor Swift fan (a more accurate analogy being that they, too, are mindless liberals repeating song lyrics like you chant far-left talking points)

How much money has the Biden family collectively taken from Russia, China, and Ukraine???? And what legitimate business or skill/service did they provide for that money? Why would Biden's granddaughter have been wired money from a Romanian source after Joe Biden visited Romania? For a guy who has so much to say, you sure get quiet on the subject of Biden family grift! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

This country, and generally the world, are roughly split between left and right... and at this point the right has the plurality if not complete victory for its political mandate. All that left-wing covid lock-down open-border climate-hysteria nonsense has doomed your Marxist goals for at least another decade. Italy rebounded to the right, along with Argentina and several other freedom loving nations. Even your horse toothed NZ president lady ran away after her heavy handed covid-oppression. And to come full circle, THAT TOO shows the real Stockholm Syndrome you tried to falsly blame on the other side... yet again.
Hunter Biden wasn't elected or in your Government at all. He is a free citizen, capable of making his own decisions. Why isn't the same scrutiny applied to Jared Kushner, who used his position in Trump's Whitehouse to take $2B from Saudia Arabia? If you see no issue with that, then once again you are blinded.

If you don't understand the key difference of an elected President taking money from 'sworn enemies' of the US, and a citizen being accused of taking money from Romania, the TBS has overtaken your ability to think critically and rationally. MAGAs focus on Hunter, a non-elected citizen, has always been a distraction from what is really going on.

Trump selling Teslas on Govt property in order to try stem the losses Tesla is facing, is once again a significant conflict of interest. We know lobbyists exists, but to turn the White House into a car dealership is next level comedy.
 
Hunter Biden wasn't elected or in your Government at all. He is a free citizen, capable of making his own decisions. Why isn't the same scrutiny applied to Jared Kushner, who used his position in Trump's Whitehouse to take $2B from Saudia Arabia? If you see no issue with that, then once again you are blinded.

If you don't understand the key difference of an elected President taking money from 'sworn enemies' of the US, and a citizen being accused of taking money from Romania, the TBS has overtaken your ability to think critically and rationally. MAGAs focus on Hunter, a non-elected citizen, has always been a distraction from what is really going on.

Trump selling Teslas on Govt property in order to try stem the losses Tesla is facing, is once again a significant conflict of interest. We know lobbyists exists, but to turn the White House into a car dealership is next level comedy.
Jared was the one years ago already preaching about how wonderful of a beachfront property Gaza could be, looks like they are all the same pile of crap, all of them.
 
Jared was the one years ago already preaching about how wonderful of a beachfront property Gaza could be, looks like they are all the same pile of crap, all of them.
The one thing I do not understand, is how fanatical people are about politicians. Waving flags, wearing merchandise, buying their meme coins, waving flags... It all seems so bizarre. People see Trump as like their saviour, which is absolutely wild.

Absolutely none of them have your best interests at heart. The reason that wages have remained low but the cost of living has increased is because we were all told a lie about trickle down economics. Money is hoarded at the top. But yet they have you blaming Mexicans and govt inefficiencies?! That has nothing on the fact that employers have realized they can get away with milking the **** out of their staff, and as long as they point the finger at a scapegoat like Ukraine (as of any money not spent there would give you more money in your pocket), Mexicans or Air Traffic Controllers (lol), then people seem to lap up the BS that it will make you richer in the end.
 
People see Trump as like their saviour, which is absolutely wild.

They see him as someone who is trying to end the retardation of the loony left corruption, lies, hate, etc.
The left have destroyed the US since Gay Barry Obozo (and then Pant-Shitter, Kid-Raper Joe) did what they did for Soros and the commie globalist... Demturds aren't worth the **** in Bidens diaper. They can all **** off and die too.
 
They see him as someone who is trying to end the retardation of the loony left corruption, lies, hate, etc.
The left have destroyed the US since Gay Barry Obozo (and then Pant-Shitter, Kid-Raper Joe) did what they did for Soros and the commie globalist... Demturds aren't worth the ** in Bidens diaper. They can all ** off and die too.
The irony in calling the left haters, yet your entire post is literally hate, lol. Do you not see the irony, or am I missing something? 😂

"The left is so hateful"
Deports immigrants and tells the left to die

"The left HATES America!"
Votes in Vladimir Trumpin

"The left HATES Christians!!"
Is literally not a Christian

The comedy just writes itself
 
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Hunter Biden wasn't elected or in your Government at all. He is a free citizen, capable of making his own decisions. Why isn't the same scrutiny applied to Jared Kushner, who used his position in Trump's Whitehouse to take $2B from Saudia Arabia? If you see no issue with that, then once again you are blinded.

If you don't understand the key difference of an elected President taking money from 'sworn enemies' of the US, and a citizen being accused of taking money from Romania, the TBS has overtaken your ability to think critically and rationally. MAGAs focus on Hunter, a non-elected citizen, has always been a distraction from what is really going on.

Trump selling Teslas on Govt property in order to try stem the losses Tesla is facing, is once again a significant conflict of interest. We know lobbyists exists, but to turn the White House into a car dealership is next level comedy.

Such gaslighting. Everything the Dems try to accuse Trump of are things they are actually doing themselves, but worse.

The difference in character/integrity is that Jared Kushner made peace between Israel and Saudi Arabia thru the Abraham Accords. Hunter Biden is a crackhead who knocked up a stripper and tried to dodge childcare payments after blowing his grifted millions on drugs and whores.

Trump as "elected President" didn't take money from our sworn enemies. He didn't even take the Presidential Salary!!

The difference is that the Saudis invested in the Kushner business (where he actually had a job and a track record as a successful businessman) AFTER he left office. The same Saudi fund also invested in Marriott, Disney, Boeing, LIV golf, etc. Your point??

Hunter Biden had no business experience in oil/gas but somehow received millions from Ukraine, China, and Russia while his Dad was Vice President... even flying with Joe on Air Force One to meet with foreign leaders, to pump his fake business of pay-to-play for access to his Dad at golf outings and dinner meetings. Remember Hunter Biden extorting a CCCP connected businessman with his Dad sitting in on the call for leverage....???


The problem is not just that Hunter got money from our sworn enemies in exchange for access to the Vice President... but that Joe Biden himself got a 10% slice of that money as "the Big Guy". And that money from Romania wasn't just sent to "a citizen" but rather a small child (granddaughter) of Joe Biden along with 9 total family members (including wives and children) who had NO actual business role and performed NO professional services to earn the money... after that foreign money was routed through 20-plus shell companies. Payoffs and grift of which Joe Biden himself profited. Similar to the anonymous Chinese donations to UPenn, who then paid Joe Biden... who never taught a class or did any visible work to earn said money from UPenn (= payoff/grift)


Trump didn't "sell" Teslas on government property... he BOUGHT one and had it delivered there. A better question would be to ask which anonymous people bought Hunter Biden's sh1t paintings (literally and figuratively) for huge sums of money and did they gain access and favors from the Biden administration for that money....
 


You literally can't make this up

Liberals love to attack Trump for things they actually do themselves, but worse.... LOLOLOL


Remember when Kamala basically accused Joe Biden of racism, and then he picked her for V.P.? :ROFLMAO:


Remember when liberals LOVED Elon Musk and Tesla because he was saving the planet from global warming??

But now that he is helping Trump they want to burn Tesla stores down (which would actually create global warming, no?) :LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:



MAGA actually welcomes these attempts. Show yourselves! LOL
This left-wing antifa stuff is coordinated and funded by others... and with Kash and Bongino taking over the FBI, these radicals are going to be found and punished. Foreign influencers will get deported, left-wing lunatics will get imprisoned. Bring a pillow... Gitmo is adding beds !! :D:LOL::ROFLMAO:
 
The one thing I do not understand, is how fanatical people are about politicians. Waving flags, wearing merchandise, buying their meme coins, waving flags... It all seems so bizarre. People see Trump as like their saviour, which is absolutely wild.

Absolutely none of them have your best interests at heart. The reason that wages have remained low but the cost of living has increased is because we were all told a lie about trickle down economics. Money is hoarded at the top. But yet they have you blaming Mexicans and govt inefficiencies?! That has nothing on the fact that employers have realized they can get away with milking the **** out of their staff, and as long as they point the finger at a scapegoat like Ukraine (as of any money not spent there would give you more money in your pocket), Mexicans or Air Traffic Controllers (lol), then people seem to lap up the BS that it will make you richer in the end.
I just want government to butt out of our lives, no more trickle down, trickle up, just stay the hell out of our lives. They are all corrupt and cannot be trusted either way, tricke up or down, all the same corrupt crap from both Republicrats and Demicans.
 
Such gaslighting. Everything the Dems try to accuse Trump of are things they are actually doing themselves, but worse.

The difference in character/integrity is that Jared Kushner made peace between Israel and Saudi Arabia thru the Abraham Accords. Hunter Biden is a crackhead who knocked up a stripper and tried to dodge childcare payments after blowing his grifted millions on drugs and whores.

Trump as "elected President" didn't take money from our sworn enemies. He didn't even take the Presidential Salary!!

The difference is that the Saudis invested in the Kushner business (where he actually had a job and a track record as a successful businessman) AFTER he left office. The same Saudi fund also invested in Marriott, Disney, Boeing, LIV golf, etc. Your point??

Hunter Biden had no business experience in oil/gas but somehow received millions from Ukraine, China, and Russia while his Dad was Vice President... even flying with Joe on Air Force One to meet with foreign leaders, to pump his fake business of pay-to-play for access to his Dad at golf outings and dinner meetings. Remember Hunter Biden extorting a CCCP connected businessman with his Dad sitting in on the call for leverage....???


The problem is not just that Hunter got money from our sworn enemies in exchange for access to the Vice President... but that Joe Biden himself got a 10% slice of that money as "the Big Guy". And that money from Romania wasn't just sent to "a citizen" but rather a small child (granddaughter) of Joe Biden along with 9 total family members (including wives and children) who had NO actual business role and performed NO professional services to earn the money... after that foreign money was routed through 20-plus shell companies. Payoffs and grift of which Joe Biden himself profited. Similar to the anonymous Chinese donations to UPenn, who then paid Joe Biden... who never taught a class or did any visible work to earn said money from UPenn (= payoff/grift)


Trump didn't "sell" Teslas on government property... he BOUGHT one and had it delivered there. A better question would be to ask which anonymous people bought Hunter Biden's sh1t paintings (literally and figuratively) for huge sums of money and did they gain access and favors from the Biden administration for that money....
Kushner sent $100B in arms to Saudis while he was in the white house (by the way, did you care as much about that as you do about Ukraine spending?). He also used his position to back the Saudis in a number of regional disputes while he was in the White House (where was your outrage?), and then pocketed 2B after leaving the white house as a kick back for all he did for them. If you don't see that as an issue, but are kicking up over a few dollars in comparison from Romania. That's fake outrage. You only get mad when it's the "evil" democrats, but praise it when it's Trump or his family. If you're not outraged by Kushner, you have no business being outraged by Hunter. It's literally that simple. If people are, then they are just hypocrites.

Trump didn't need to take a salary, he made Secret Service members stay at his resorts, and charged them full price to do so. He cost your country $160,000,000 playing golf. Records show $2M in public spending just for the secret service to stay at Mar a Lago, and further documents show hundreds of thousands was spent by the secret service to stay at Trump Hotels and Trump Golf courses. And yet you praise him for not taking a salary? That's actually wild 😂 bUt hE dIdNt TaKe A sAlArY 😂 He didn't need to! He made more off your tax players through other avenues. But again, you don't care about that (although if Biden had done that, you'd be on here crying about it).

Trump was using the White House as a car dealership. We can all see the videos
 
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