CEL Alpha One - Natural Anabolic Recomposition Agent + Incredible Pumps
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sns8778
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That's great to hear. Yes, it would be possible. Some people may notice it, some may not.
That sounds like a great recomp run - stacking Alpha One and Urolithin-B XT.
And especially sounds great adding in the others that you mentioned - Recomp20 and Prime XT especially.
sns8778
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Great to see you posting. Miss seeing your posts and your detailed reviews and things.
That sounds like a great stack. I'm glad that your push phase is going well. I think you'll really like the addition of Alpha One, and I think it would be excellent for your mini cut too.
grovemule
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Dying to try this which means I'll be throwing more money at you Steve! I'm gonna buy this just for the pumps. Leaning out would just be an added bonus BTW man I love this site
sns8778
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I hope that you'll enjoy it. I look forward to hearing your feedback.
AknowledgeMe
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Is it a complete waste to just run it at 1 pill a day?
GQdaLEGEND
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Nope .. take 1 pre workout .. its recommended to try it for 1st 5 days .. if it works for u .. can always stick with 1 cap.. maybe try 2caps and then u can judge it yourself
I went up to 4 and felt 2 was best for me
AknowledgeMe
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I’m running it with anabolic XT so was thinking just one pre workout would amplify the axt
sns8778
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No, its not a waste at all to use 1 pill per day.
It's going to work better at 2 pills per day, but its up to the individual whether they want to take 1 or 2.
You can do 1 per day if that's what you would like to do.
You said taking 1 pre-workout - that's fine, but make sure you take it on non-training days too.
baldwanus
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I've stuck at 1 cap, more than happy with it. Diet wasn't as clean/gym schedule was a bit wonky for a lot of the bottle and still felt like I was leaning out a little. Would results have been better with 2 caps? Probably, but I can't complain with 1 cap pre-wo.
As far as pumps go, I certainly don't feel like I need more than I get from 1 cap haha
AwakeningAlpha
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sns8778
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Did you mean X-Gels? X-Gels causes inflammation, but Phosphatidic Acid XT doesn't.
Yes, there will be some Black Friday deals. Trying to figure out some of the details now.
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before your workout ? Or one first thing in the morning. Then one before your workout?pharrison1
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Are you takingbefore your workout ? Or one first thing in the morning. Then one before your workout?
Steve,
Should I take 2 before my morning workout or 1 first thing and second before I workout?
sns8778
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I would space them out - 1 softgel twice per day.
If you workout in the morning, I would take 1 30 minutes to 1 hour before your workout and then 1 8 to 12 hours later in the day.
AwakeningAlpha
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Yes youre exactly right! I did mean X-Gels the arachidonic acid product. Sorry stacking X-gels, PAXT, Anabolic XT and a few other of SNS's finest- and typed the wrong product name. (going to edit OP to avoid confusion)
I love the pumps but know longer runs of arachidonic can cause inflammation related injury so I'm looking to sub another pump product. A1 seems perfect.
Super pleased with the results btw. Many thanks to you and the team over at SNS. Great stuff!
GQdaLEGEND
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nice looking fwd to feedback .. im jumping back on this as well.
stacking with ursabolic
Snaeem155
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I'm about to add Ursabolic to my stack of AO, LE and R20.
AO is possibly my favourite supplement of all time.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
nice stack .. im running R20 along with other stuff right now
picked up some ursabolic + xpg ursa gel .. excited for the stack.
good to hear that you are enjoying it as you rated as a fav .. i think its gonna make an awesome stack.
how many caps are you on AO ?
GQdaLEGEND
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yea that was my sweet spot too .. i did do 3-4 different times of day .. i still had no discofort but felt 2 worked quite well
grovemule
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Currently running Prime sounds like this will stack well with Alpha one. I'm excited
BKnuckles88
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Did not work for me. 1 pill was ok for about a week with food 1 time a day. Then I switched over to two pills a day for three days and had the shts pretty bad for hours each day. I tried switching back to one pill with meals and still gave me GI Figured I’d have got back to normal but seems like my body just wants nothing to do with it at all. So I unfortunately can’t take this stuff. But it won’t go to waste. Gave it to my good friend So hopefully don’t give him any GI issues.
GQdaLEGEND
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Did u split the 2 pills or same time ?
sns8778
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Hopefully your friend will enjoy it.
Most people are never going to experience any stomach upset with it, but people that are sensitive to their body's own cAMP levels rising may. For people that that happens with, their body will usually acclimate to it after about 2 weeks.
It's estimated that about 5% of people are going to experience stomach upset with their body's cAMP levels going up. That's why we suggest starting off with 1 pill per day for the first week to acclimate to that.
When going up to 2 pills per day, we suggest that people space the dosages out; not take them at once.
When someone goes up to 2 softgels and they do experience stomach discomfort due to their cAMP levels going up, some people will be okay going back down to 1 pill per day, but some people will need to take a break for about a week and restart at 1 pill per day and stay at that dose for a longer period of time.
The reason for that is because its not the product itself causing the stomach upset, its your body's cAMP levels being increased, and for people sensitive to that, the body takes time to acclimate to it.
BKnuckles88
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No. I did not. I took both pills same time pre workout.
BKnuckles88
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Thing is for 5 days I took it with my pre workout meal and was fine, just one dosage pre workout. Then I took the two at a time and messed me up. I took 2/3 days off from it. Then went back to one pill a day with my pre workout meal , diahrea again. I figured I’d have been fine. The shts were not as bad as the two pills though. I figured that was the case as well. In regards to my body would acclimate to it but thing is I do construction work and I don’t have access to clean bathrooms often so I didn’t wanna chance it.
grovemule
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Josh what does the l-cartinine do for you?
Madevilz
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On vacation with sub par training and loose diet, using Alpha One and Epiplex:
sns8778
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I would always suggest to people that when/if they go up to 2 softgels to space the dosages out, not to take both at once.
For the few people that do experience stomach sensitivity to their cAMP levels increasing, some will be fine if they go back down to 1 per day, but I normally suggest people just coming off of it for a week or two before starting back in order to let their body's cAMP levels normalize.
If you do ever try it again, start at 1 softgel and stay at that for at least 2 to 3 weeks before going up to 2 softgels per day, and when you do go up to 2 per day, space the dosages out 8 to 12 hours apart and with food.
Dustin07
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I agree with this IG post and I think it highlights the importance of your mentality/relationship with fitness/health/gym. I have so many people that freak out when I say I'm hitting the gym on vacation. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a good lifting session! People have to change their relationship with "working out".
WickedWarlock
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Should I pretend there isn’t pretentious attitude in this post or what?
BKnuckles88
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How about you mind your business and stop brown
’ng. How about that lol , I was talking to sns , not you, I am certainly allowed to question comments that appear to me to be bogus or false. I am spending money on this guys products 100$ for two bottles I now have to toss, I was physically having issues , his product made me sick, I have actually had some more people message me telling me they had issues and I said they should say somehting. They said we don’t wanna get attacked by every body for speaking up so , so I am allowed to question him. So take a seat back and don’t worry bout what I say. Thats the issue on this site. It’s why there is never any body new here and when there are they leave quite quickly. Cause of the people like you. Learn to just keep quiet and mind your own kid. I’m not here to kiss up to anybody.
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BKnuckles88
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I have used other products known to increase cAMP levels and have never had this issue. So cAMP is not the issue. The product doesn’t fair well with me. I have never had any natural product give me diarrhea like this before. I’m not going to sit back and lie or not debate statements that are seemingly false. And Some of them products were by SNS that were known to increase cAMP. So either the other cAMP products are not working right and this product ( alpha 1 ) is & or the other products known to increase cAMP are not doing their job? Which would it be. Since there is no difference in Increaing cAMP levels … cAMP is cAMP no matter how you cut it. And I highly doubt taking a natural substance increased my camp levels that high within just 2-3 hours. I think we both know that’s true
sns8778
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When I post things in a product FAQ thread, the things I post are to help everyone reading.
You don't want to use it again, cool, no one is telling you to. I'm explaining the situation to others reading.
I'm not going to debate or argue with you.
Science and method of action is what they are - they are science and not opinions.
It's clinically accepted that a small percent of people will get digestive disturbances from their body's own cAMP levels increasing. This has been shown with a variety of cAMP increasing drugs and supplements.
It's why we include the following in the product write up:
A note about increasing cAMP:
Increasing cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) levels may cause stomach discomfort in some individuals. This is rare, but possible with any cAMP increasing supplements.
If individuals experience stomach discomfort with any cAMP increasing supplements, it is suggested that they take the supplements with food as that resolves it in most people. It is also suggested that the individual stay with the minimum suggested dose and not increase the dosage until the stomach discomfort subsides.
You said yourself that 1 softgel didn't bother your stomach, but it did when you went up to 2 softgels - and that you took both softgels at one time. The suggested use is to take 1 softgel per day and for people that go up to 2 softgels per day to space them out.
There's nothing to debate:
- You state that one didn't bother your stomach. Fact.
- You stated that 2 did bother your stomach. Fact.
- You took it in a way that wasn't the suggested use. Fact.
sns8778
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This is the latest troll account from the guy that's been banned a dozen+ times here.
Madevilz
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Right on, I never stop working out tbh, it's part of my routine just like brushing my teeth. Has been part of my lifestyle for over 20 years, and will be until I can't physically anymore. When I look for a hotel, a proper gym is part of the equation lol
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sns8778
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There has been discussion of cAMP increasing ingredients bothering some people's stomachs ever since cAMP supplements became available over 20 years ago. It has been shown that cAMP enhancing drugs bother a small percentage of people's stomachs, so of course that can be the case with supplements too.
It has been long discussed that 95% Forskolin upsets far less people's stomachs than the lower percentage extracts, but that even 95% is going to upset some people's stomachs - because for some people, its the cAMP levels increasing that is causing the stomach upset.
As for your comment about other cAMP enhancing supplements that we make, the other cAMP increasing supplement that we offer if Forskolin XT, which contains Sabinsa's Forslean 95%, which is the patented Forskolin extract that has all of the studies on it.
You stated:
And I highly doubt taking a natural substance increased my camp levels that high within just 2-3 hours. I think we both know that’s true
It's okay not to know things, but the issue in your case is acting like a know it all and presenting false information as fact.
Here is an excerpt from one study:
Forskolin stimulated PTH release 1.7 to 3.7-fold at 10−5 mol/L and increased cAMP content maximally 37.6-fold at 10−4 mol/L. Forskolin induced a maximal increase in cAMP accumulation by 5 minutes of incubation. The rate of PTH release in forskolin-treated cells also reached maximal levels at five to ten minutes incubation.
^^^ Last I checked, 5 minutes was less than 2 or 3 hours.
Dustin07
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Dude I'm the same way. I see vacation sessions as "for fun". an opportunity to lift in a new place without the stress of "having" to hit numbers. I think a lot of people miss that just lifting and keeping routine in place can be enjoyable and productive without going balls to the wall every single session every single day of your life.
sns8778
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How about you mind your business and stop brown
Supplement questions are always welcome.
But you didn't ask any questions.
You posted something negative about a supplement without asking any questions, and you acknowledged yourself that you didn't have any stomach issues when taking 1 per day and then only had stomach issues when you went up to 2 per day and taking them at the same time - which is NOT the way you're supposed to take the product.
I posted a nice explanatory post explaining that when/if people go up to 2 per day, that they shouldn't take them both at one time, and if they do experience any stomach discomfort when they go up to 2 per day, the best way to go about handling it.
Then you go on a rant about how its the ingredient and not cAMP levels - after you'd already said you could take 1 per day but it started bothering your stomach when you went up to 2 per day - and were taking the 2 at one time, which is not the way the label recommends using it.
We literally address the cAMP science and how there are a small % of people that increasing cAMP may bother their stomachs in the write up.
You then try to argue that a person's cAMP levels won't go up that quickly, you said in 2 to 3 hours - but I posted a study for that showed Forskolin being shown to increase them in as little as 5 minutes.
You weren't asking questions - you were making false statements.
You were doing the same thing that you've done under your other dozen+ banned user names and trying to start drama and conflict. Had been figuring you'd try to start some BS over this ever since you mentioned under one of your other banned user names that you were going to try Alpha One.
I don't even believe that you try half of the things that you say you try because you'll post that you're running one stack, then that account gets banned, then you'll post something completely different under the next user name, then that one gets banned. Then you'll create another one and complain about this or that product - when who the hell knows what you're even taking, if anything.
Yup.
Bigbri01
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I wonder if he even lifts?
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sns8778
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Hopefully some people will reply to you.
Recomp and incredible pumps have been the most common feedback.
BigGame84
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Yes, definitely experiencing some recomp and pump. It's become a staple for me.
I am doing 2 caps pre-workout, and 2 caps in the evening. So 4 caps/daily. No stomach issues.
Danksta710
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I notice recomp which is why I have it in atm along with urlolithin b. They are a match made in heaven.
I am that 5% that gets stomach issues with the cAMP increase. I have stuck at 1 cap and stayed there. I did enough research into boosting cAMP to understand it would likely be temporary and I should be patient. Took close to 3 weeks but any issues I had no longer present themselves. The body has adjusted.
Those 3 weeks were worth dealing with as it's clear sailing from here on out. Great product imo.
I am that 5% that gets stomach issues with the cAMP increase. I have stuck at 1 cap and stayed there. I did enough research into boosting cAMP to understand it would likely be temporary and I should be patient. Took close to 3 weeks but any issues I had no longer present themselves. The body has adjusted.
Those 3 weeks were worth dealing with as it's clear sailing from here on out. Great product imo.
BigGame84
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I am stacking with Urolithin-B as well. 6 caps. 3am/3pm.
Yes it gets pricey but these are natural and effective supplements with health benefits. So I don't mind paying and supporting and working out is my "hobby".