Taking Peds for strength...by Larry Wheels

KOSTASKARAS said:
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What is the couple of components that Larry talk about strength?
He does not name them....
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Anadrol and Trenbolone Acetate

There’s other videos out there of Larry being more direct about what he liked in the past vs what he did recently, which was allegedly just a very modest dose of testosterone. Then you add in something like Anadrol, Tren Ace, Mtren, or Halotestin the last 5-15 days and it supercharges your neurological output to get that extra 5-10% bump for the contest/peak day.

Most experienced coaches will tell you that 7-14 days is probably ideal. This is short enough duration that you can hang on through the side effects many can get like crushed appetite, anger, insomnia, lethargy, high blood pressure but long enough exposure to make a genuine and obvious difference at contest. You certainly don’t need to be using these longer than 3 weeks out basically in any peak strength scenario. You would pulse them before very heavy training sessions if utilized at all further out; they are not things you want to stay on daily for many weeks. You have to manage to get your food and sleep in.

Larry has said in the past he liked cycles like 600-750mg testosterone with Anadrol and maybe some Tren, but he would take them all for months together. Many lifters have done this, but it burns the candle at both ends and injuries are much more likely - Larry is proof of that.

The counter argument to his modest use now, is that he already has a tremendous muscle and strength base - it takes much less gear to maintain and wake up previously built muscle than the drugs it took to add the new mass initially. Larry’s past is unfortunately also part of how he can get away with less now.
 
What are the best Peds for strength?
Another video i saw recomend thoose:
6) testosterone
5) Anavar
4) Npp
3) Turinabol
2) Dbol
1) Winstrol
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
What are the best Peds for strength?
Another video i saw recomend thoose:
6) testosterone
5) Anavar
4) Npp
3) Turinabol
2) Dbol
1) Winstrol
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That list is a little weird to me, 4 orals and 2 injectables? Obviously Test is necessary so that goes without saying but orals is usually used the weeks leading up to the PR/meet day while injectable is the main driver during the cycle and I think it’s others that’s better than NPP. Of those orals that’s listed I like Dbol the best for strength but Anadrol and Halo is more used in strength competition than all those listed. Strange list 🤔
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
What are the best Peds for strength?
Another video i saw recomend thoose:
6) testosterone
5) Anavar
4) Npp
3) Turinabol
2) Dbol
1) Winstrol
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No, this is pretty wrong. All steroids and especially orals will increase strength to varying degrees based on how they work, so even Nandrolone can be good if you add weight and leverage from it.

But if you want the most potent ones for strength:
Oil:
-testosterone
-trenbolone
-trestolone
-dhb/1-test cyp

Oral:
-superdrol/dmz
-anadrol
-halotestin
-mtren
-dbol
-m1t/m1a
-cheque drops

Anavar is an honorable mention for strength in that it’s an oral that helps right away, and because it’s so mild side effect-wise you can take it longer more comfortably (4-8 weeks). But it’s not nearly as potent as those, and it will trash cholesterol worse than many realize. It’s probably the best oral compound to run if you intend to use one daily for over a month from a safety perspective.

Nandrolone, Masteron, Primobolan, Boldenone all fill the syringe and will definitely contribute something over time especially just by helping you get more jacked. But the ones listed above have more immediate improvements in strength attributed to their uptick in neurological drive. Mast is the best of these for neurological drive, and Nandrolone best for most/fastest actual size increase.

KOSTASKARAS said:
Dave Palumbo recommend
Halotestin instead for anadrol because anadrol kill his appetite
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Yes, Anadrol kills mine the same day - it overdrives your sympathetic nervous system and will literally make you stronger that day within an hour or two of ingestion. But Halo does the same thing, so you would need to experiment which one you seem to respond better to.

Anadrol is more ideal when you can add several pounds of water, as this protects joints and increases leverage as well. But if you are tight on already making a weight class or wish to stay lighter/drier, Halotestin is more ideal.

Neither drug are good options to just stay on for many weeks; there’s nothing they can do longterm that safer less harsh oils can’t do just as well - they shine for a quick last minute bump.
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
Testosterone is always. I am on TRT
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If you’re already on TRT, either blast more testosterone with a little DHB or keep the test low and add Trestolone Ace for a while.

Trestolone will aromatize significantly to a stronger methylestrogen, and it can raise prolactin, so you will want to be using a real AI like Anastrazole, taking DIM & P5P daily, and keep Raloxifene or Tamoxifen close at hand. I’d also monitor blood pressure; I always have to add Telmisartan when adding Trestolone to control mine.

Dblock said:
Hyde, what are your thoughts about Trestolone caps? Strength? Harshness etc….
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Never used them. For the most part people report them as in & out quick hits for preWO or pre-sex use. They definitely aromatize a lot being such a short half-life, and not something you would cycle so much as just add pre-training as desired.
 
I'm thinking to the cycle I'll do in the winter with: testosterone and NPP, to add tren and anabrol for 2-3 last weeks and participate in a strength competition.
good idea or not?
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
What are the best Peds for strength?
Another video i saw recomend thoose:
6) testosterone
5) Anavar
4) Npp
3) Turinabol
2) Dbol
1) Winstrol
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That's not even close to right.

Its going to vary but test, trestolone and tren are all super good strength injectables.

Anadrol, dbol, SD and winni probably too

Then theres the mtren and cheq drops and all the weird ****.


Idk, my last strength comp I ran test, eq and winni, worked great, I tripled my orals the last 3 days
 
Var or tbol at 100mg a day is good for strength but anything @ 100mg a day will jack up your strength
 
I'm thinking to the cycle I'll do in the winter with: testosterone and NPP, to add tren and anabrol for 2-3 last weeks and participate in a strength competition.
good idea or not?
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
I'm thinking to the cycle I'll do in the winter with: testosterone and NPP, to add tren and anabrol for 2-3 last weeks and participate in a strength competition.
good idea or not?
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What have you used in the past and how many cycles have you ran. How much did you use on the first cycle vs. The last cycle. How much have you progressed in past cycles. Those questions will help you get a answer on good idea or not.

No1 can just say a cycle is good for someone they dont know anything about.
 
I am doing 2 cycles per year for the last 10 years.
Only anadrol have never use.
My last cycle was
testo
masteron (16 weeks)
Tren (6 weeks)
Anavar (8 weeks)

I have use in the past... Testo , episten, msten, dbol, sdol, deca, winstrol, Var, NPP, Boldon, Tren, masteron, Primo
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
I am doing 2 cycles per year for the last 10 years.
Only anadrol have never use.
My last cycle was
testo
masteron (16 weeks)
Tren (6 weeks)
Anavar (8 weeks)

I have use in the past... Testo , episten, msten, dbol, sdol, deca, winstrol, Var, NPP, Boldon, Tren, masteron, Primo
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With that many cycles under your belt I think you have a good understanding about what works best for you. I would run something you have used in the past and add the anadrol the last 3 weeks
 
Have you done deca and tren together? Big results and big side effects but if your just hammering tren Ave the final 4 weeks I dont think it's a huge deal.

I'm actually thinking about a quick 6 week trestolone and anadrol cycle for strength for myself. I got a strength comp Nov. 4th
 
Also epistane makes me stupid strong, I lied I added epistane last cycle not winni, the winni was the year before for a different comp
 
Smont said:
Have you done deca and tren together?
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No never

At bulking cycles my strength was up... but iam adding almost 15 kg every time.
I remember my first TREN cutting cycle with Tren and Var lost 8kg but my strength was super as it was when i was bulking.
I never use anadrol and i read a lot of people saying that it is super for strength.
Also Larry Wheels say that Anadrol and Trenbolone are very good for strength....
 
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Smont said:
Then theres the mtren and cheq drops and all the weird ****.
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Bro Mtren is the truth for one-day applications; I don’t know if it makes me any stronger particularly but I always feel good on it

In the morning of a meet I take Anadrol and Dbol to get ready for squat. I don’t want to get too out of control on squats - I need to be able to focus on my technique. Before bench I take more Dbol and Mtren; you just lay down, put the bar where it needs to go and then press like hell. Then I take more Mtren before deadlifts since the Anadrol and Dbol are still strong in my system, and you just have to bend over and pull til you can’t lol.
 
KOSTASKARAS said:
No never

At bulking cycles my strength was up... but iam adding almost 15 kg every time.
I remember my first TREN cutting cycle with Tren and Var lost 8kg but my strength was super as it was when i was bulking.
I never use anadrol and i read a lot of people saying that it is super for strength.
Also Larry Wheels say that Anadrol and Trenbolone are very good for strength....
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Be careful doing both Tren and Anadrol together. The dose is the factor, but enough of either for just a short time period where you haven’t really adapted to the added strength can make injuries very easy.

Like if you take 100-150 Tren/wk and 25-50mg Anadrol, that’s a lot less risky than with 350/wk Tren. People go up on Anadrol, some 100, 150/day (or all manner of things of course), but you will literally notice 25mg it’s so potent. I know a low-dose guy that’s a Masters Pro strongman who only adds 200 Tren the last 6 weeks and 25mg Anadrol the last 8 days. He pulls in the 800s conventional at like 50 years old still.
 
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