Shed me some light on Superdrol

[TheViking]

Hey guys,

I have been sorting out my shelves and found an unopened bottle of Pro-SD from Dragon nutrition (90 caps, 10mg). I'm just getting back to working out after six month of inactivity due to personal issues. It has been years since i runned a cycle. I know superdrol is an anabolic that's very harsh on the lipids and the liver. To cut the story short, I'm in the 40's, I've have a few cycles under my belt.

What is the newest verdict on SD? My goals is generally not in the line of what SD does, which seems to be more of a bulking agent. My aim is to keep bodyfat low and to stay (relatively) dry. I've used SD in the past to kickstart a cycle. I'm not into doing gear anymore, but I think that it can help me with my motivation to get back to the the gym, altough I will get my routine back for like 2 months before I intend to use it. My plan is doing 10mg a day for like 4-5 weeks.

So how can I make use for this bottle of SD in a smart way? I will most likely use clomid during and after the cycle. Opinions is appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Tunaking14]

SD is so harsh that it wouldn't be worth it in my opinion for your goals. Short term it's good for guys that are on gear but SD by itself will give you some gains and they will be gone just as quick and your liver will hate you! lol. If you do decide to take it, you need to take TUDCA for your liver and watch your blood pressure closely.

 

[Ironpirate]

Hey guys,

I have been sorting out my shelves and found an unopened bottle of Pro-SD from Dragon nutrition (90 caps, 10mg). I'm just getting back to working out after six month of inactivity due to personal issues. It has been years since i runned a cycle. I know superdrol is an anabolic that's very harsh on the lipids and the liver. To cut the story short, I'm in the 40's, I've have a few cycles under my belt.

What is the newest verdict on SD? My goals is generally not in the line of what SD does, which seems to be more of a bulking agent. My aim is to keep bodyfat low and to stay (relatively) dry. I've used SD in the past to kickstart a cycle. I'm not into doing gear anymore, but I think that it can help me with my motivation to get back to the the gym, altough I will get my routine back for like 2 months before I intend to use it. My plan is doing 10mg a day for like 4-5 weeks.

So how can I make use for this bottle of SD in a smart way? I will most likely use clomid during and after the cycle. Opinions is appreciated. Thanks!

Get a couple bottles of 4 andro to go with it and start at 2.5-5mg sd per day. Tell everyone it's newbie gains, don't worry everyone is doing it these days.

 

[Stacks1]

Yes, it's a harsh compound. Your liver values, lipids, BP, etc will likely all be affected, and significantly in some cases. You might get ED, lose your sex drive, and suffer from lethargy.

But let's be honest, we put up with these sides because the stuff works so damn well. The strength increases and body changes come fast and are significant.

It's so hard for me to say "it's not worth it" because you can make a good argument that the juice is worth the squeeze with this one. The other thing too, is that as harsh as it is, I actually recover pretty well and pretty quickly from SD. Although other than 19-nors, I recover pretty quickly from most cycles. But I can't say that will necessarily be the case for you.

 

[Rad83]

6 months off,…2 months training/getting back in the groove…just my opinion but not ready for a methyl. Especially not sd. You will get hurt. These things amp up your strength (and aggression ) much faster than your joints/ligaments are ready for.

You mention not wanting to ‘run gear’ but this stuff is ‘as gear as it gets’.

I think you could do well to run something natual or mildly enhanced at the 3 month mark back, give or take. All the board sponsors here have great options…and there’s plenty of threads with their products info (this isn’t your typical ‘gnc stuff’ that does nothing)

Best of luck Just getting back in the game is a feat in itself!

 

[Stacks1]

6 months off,…2 months training/getting back in the groove…just my opinion but not ready for a methyl. Especially not sd. You will get hurt. These things amp up your strength (and aggression ) much faster than your joints/ligaments are ready for.

You mention not wanting to ‘run gear’ but this stuff is ‘as gear as it gets’.

I think you could do well to run something natual or mildly enhanced at the 3 month mark back, give or take. All the board sponsors here have great options…and there’s plenty of threads with their products info (this isn’t your typical ‘gnc stuff’ that does nothing)

Best of luck Just getting back in the game is a feat in itself!

Yeah I agree with this. Keep the SD but don't take it now. Rad83 makes a good point about injury. In your situation with only recently getting back into the gym, adding something like SD will significantly enhance your risk of injury. Really not worth it in my opinion right now. A couple of other points too that I missed:

1) Forget taking clomid on cycle. This is some new phenomenon that makes no sense to me. Save clomid for PCT.

2) SD does not necessarily need to be a "bulking agent" in my opinion. I think a lot of people think of it that way because it's a high carb compound, however I've still used it on a cut and it was fine.

Run something natural right now. I'd recommend something like Ara and phosphatidic acid.

 

[Hyde]

If you don’t want to be using steroids, don’t use one of the harshest oral steroids ever created. Superdrol is a contest drug. Rapid temporarily improvements in physique and strength that are here today, gone tomorrow.

 

[delsolrob]

First, welcome back to the routine!

IMO: anything for cutting/recomp needs to be run for extended periods - in my experience, SD should be short cycles - like 3 weeks. While I'd recommend you stay natty while you get back into the training routine - plus, you're going to get results pretty quickly as your body adapts to the recent added training. Something like sustain alpha would be ideal to optimize natural test right now. plus, it's also going to help with the inflammation and cortisol.

some recent articles on the ingredients in Sustain Alpha:
https://iconicformulations.com/blogs/news/7-8-benzoflavone-enhancing-natural-testosterone-production
https://iconicformulations.com/blog...-8-benzoflavone-for-men-a-focus-on-anti-aging
https://iconicformulations.com/blog...y-the-power-of-transdermal-resveratrol-in-men

 

[TheViking]

Thanks for input!

Maybe I was a bit unclear , what I meant with that I not want to run gear, is that I don't want to incorporate the SD into a stack or as a part of a more massive cycle. As I stated, I've run SD before. The main thing that concerns me is the lethargy and BP.

As for the joints/ligaments part, this is a valid point. However, my goal is not to break PR's and to get the strongest I've ever been. I don't chase the big lifts these days. Over the years I turned more into a repper. I care more about how it feels, than the weight I'm pushing. The main reasons I consider SD later on is because I got it in my shelf, and for motivation.

What would you recommend as the length of the cycle?

If you don’t want to be using steroids, don’t use one of the harshest oral steroids ever created. Superdrol is a contest drug. Rapid temporarily improvements in physique and strength that are here today, gone tomorrow.

Would you say that SD does not fit a purpose more than as a contest prep? When you speak of temporarily gains with SD, do you think that this work the same way in the terms of muscle memory?

 

[TheViking]

First, welcome back to the routine!

IMO: anything for cutting/recomp needs to be run for extended periods - in my experience, SD should be short cycles - like 3 weeks. While I'd recommend you stay natty while you get back into the training routine - plus, you're going to get results pretty quickly as your body adapts to the recent added training. Something like sustain alpha would be ideal to optimize natural test right now. plus, it's also going to help with the inflammation and cortisol.

some recent articles on the ingredients in Sustain Alpha:
https://iconicformulations.com/blogs/news/7-8-benzoflavone-enhancing-natural-testosterone-production
https://iconicformulations.com/blog...-8-benzoflavone-for-men-a-focus-on-anti-aging
https://iconicformulations.com/blog...y-the-power-of-transdermal-resveratrol-in-men

Thanks!

Would you say that SD should be run for no longer than 3 weeks as a stand alone? It feels like a very short period for messing with shutdown and eventual sides.

I will look into SA, seems like a good product. Should it be applied once a day? How many bottles do one need for a decent run?

 

[delsolrob]

Thanks!

Would you say that SD should be run for no longer than 3 weeks as a stand alone? It feels like a very short period for messing with shutdown and eventual sides.

I will look into SA, seems like a good product. Should it be applied once a day? How many bottles do one need for a decent run?

I've never recommended anyone run sd for more than 3 weeks - just too harsh, even at 10mg.

I'd recommend 2 bottles for 8 weeks on the Sustain Alpha - apply once a day and you're good to go!

 

[delsolrob]

I think the consensus is that the gains on SD are really rapid and not maintainable - you get a ton of glycogen retention, as it just shovels glycogen into muscle - and you get a ton of rapid strength gains. but, you lose most of it during PCT...hence the comment about temporary gains. It used to be pretty easy to spot the guys in the gym on SD - they would blow up for a month and then deflate pretty quickly after. Really makes it difficult to justify the cost benefit ratio for the run.

 

[TheViking]

I've never recommended anyone run sd for more than 3 weeks - just too harsh, even at 10mg.

I'd recommend 2 bottles for 8 weeks on the Sustain Alpha - apply once a day and you're good to go!

Thanks for chiming in, Rob! Really appreciated.

Never tried AS, got two bottles on the way to try it out. Should I rotate the spots where I apply? Also, is it better to apply a few pumps i.e on the thighs and the rest on shoulders?

I think the consensus is that the gains on SD are really rapid and not maintainable - you get a ton of glycogen retention, as it just shovels glycogen into muscle - and you get a ton of rapid strength gains. but, you lose most of it during PCT...hence the comment about temporary gains. It used to be pretty easy to spot the guys in the gym on SD - they would blow up for a month and then deflate pretty quickly after. Really makes it difficult to justify the cost benefit ratio for the run.

Yeah that's what I read about it. Got it way back when SD was all hyped, but choosed other gear over SD when i runned cycles in the past, which is why I still got a bottle. Tried it once and felt like completely sh*t. I just don't know what to do with it. Was kinda hoping that the verdict had changed with time regarding pulsing, dosing, cycling and whatnot. Hence my thread.

 

[delsolrob]

Thank you - looking forward to your feedback on Sustain Alpha

It's never a bad idea to rotate application sites - especially if you suffer from dry skin...want to make sure it doesn't dry it out too much. I also recommend applying a moisturizer at night

 

[Hyde]

Would you say that SD does not fit a purpose more than as a contest prep? When you speak of temporarily gains with SD, do you think that this work the same way in the terms of muscle memory?

If you were going to use it, I would pulse it for 5-6 weeks at 3-4x a week, then do a full PCT.

But I do not think anyone in their 40s should be shutting themselves down without the intention of going on TRT eventually for life. Recovery will be harder than years ago, and it’s likely your test levels won’t be as high, so even with more extended moderate use…how much muscle can you build in just 6 weeks even? How can you hope to retain it with possibly lower natural testosterone levels post cycle, probably even post PCT? What if you permanently lower your natural testosterone for a couple lbs of actual muscle tissue, and then eventually lose it all or are force to go on TRT when maybe you weren’t really hoping for that?

You’re using the wrong tool for a job you probably shouldn’t even be doing. Sell it to a close gym buddy for $100. If you ever decide the gym is your forever life you can always get some real testosterone and have a more productive, less harmful cycle for the potential hormonal damage.

SD is poison, and it doesn’t make sense outside of competitive applications. I mean anyone can take it, but you need to see it as nitrous, not upgraded engine components that will be a permanent upgrade.

 

[TheViking]

If you were going to use it, I would pulse it for 5-6 weeks at 3-4x a week, then do a full PCT.

But I do not think anyone in their 40s should be shutting themselves down without the intention of going on TRT eventually for life. Recovery will be harder than years ago, and it’s likely your test levels won’t be as high, so even with more extended moderate use…how much muscle can you build in just 6 weeks even? How can you hope to retain it with possibly lower natural testosterone levels post cycle, probably even post PCT? What if you permanently lower your natural testosterone for a couple lbs of actual muscle tissue, and then eventually lose it all or are force to go on TRT when maybe you weren’t really hoping for that?

You’re using the wrong tool for a job you probably shouldn’t even be doing. Sell it to a close gym buddy for $100. If you ever decide the gym is your forever life you can always get some real testosterone and have a more productive, less harmful cycle for the potential hormonal damage.

SD is poison, and it doesn’t make sense outside of competitive applications. I mean anyone can take it, but you need to see it as nitrous, not upgraded engine components that will be a permanent upgrade.

Thank you for a thorough answer. This was exactly what I wanted to hear. You're on spot when it comes to training philosophy. I've decided not to touch it anymore. I actually recall how bad I felt when I last used it for a kickstart of a cycle. M1T was a bad biatch too, along with tren. Guess some of us were suckers for the designer steroids that popped up like 20 years ago.

Thanks for sharing wisdom Hyde, always contributing!

 

[Hyde]

Thank you for a thorough answer. This was exactly what I wanted to hear. You're on spot when it comes to training philosophy. I've decided not to touch it anymore. I actually recall how bad I felt when I last used it for a kickstart of a cycle. M1T was a bad biatch too, along with tren. Guess some of us were suckers for the designer steroids that popped up like 20 years ago.

Thanks for sharing wisdom Hyde, always contributing!

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