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0.5mg anastrazole ED as a high aromatizer

lincoln.prtg

lincoln.prtg

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I'm currently on a bulk blast

600mg test E/week
50mg dianabol ED

I was suffering quite a lot at the start of this blast because my E2 was through the roof. I was taking 1mg anastrazole twice per week 24h after the testo injection but it wasn't enough. I was feeling shitty, depressed and no energy at all. and yes, it's high E2 and not low E2 because every blood work I ever done my E2 was high.

does anyone have any experience with this kind of dosage of anastrazole?
I also plan on taking it the same time with the dianabol, any problems with that?
 
Dbol in the mix when you already have problems is asking for more

Get right before cycle so you have a "control" then you have something to gauge off of
 
It's not a unheard of dose, but it is pretty heavy. 1 milligram daily is what cancer patients usually start at.
 
Leary942 said:
It's not a unheard of dose, but it is pretty heavy. 1 milligram daily is what cancer patients usually start at.
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Breast cancer patients take it to crush their estrogen to prevent tumors from growing. Not even remotely similar to someone doing a cycle.
 
Have you had estrogen issues with just test in the past? 50mgs of dbol is a pretty hefty dose in my opinion. And 600mgs of test is no slouch either. Running that cycle I'm surprised you didn't throw in some mast to help with estrogen control.
 
Ramping up your test dose (if this is not what you did or are doing) would help allot as well as daily injection (again if you are not doing that).
 
sammpedd88 said:
Breast cancer patients take it to crush their estrogen to prevent tumors from growing. Not even remotely similar to someone doing a cycle.
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Of course, I would think this be self-explanatory. The OP asked if anybody had experience with such dosages.
 
sammpedd88 said:
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Your answer was out of context
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I was merely suggesting to OP the dose he's asking about is heavy, with special note on the end that that's typically what cancer patients use. That was in response to him asking if "anyone has experience with such dosages." So no, I wouldn't say that's out of context. But more importantly, perhaps you have something useful to contribute?
 
I also aromatise fairly bad also.

I've tried all the AI's and their just too much hassles.

Your best bet is primobolan. Add on 300mg to your cycle and your estrogen will sit in range.

I'm on trt and I use 120mg test e + 40mg primo. That small dose of primo brings my estrogen to 30. Keeps it their perfectly. Never changes and doesn't spike then crash like AI's. I felt awful on arimidex/aromasin.

Adding in Calcium D Glucarate + DIM ain't a bad idea also.

Primo also adds to your cycle. Extra mass + estrogen in range. Win win. I had zero side effects on it also. It does lower shbg though so keep an eye on that.
 
This is what happens when the blind leads the blind down a staircase of stupidity.

This thread has a perfect combination of pointless information and bad information.
 
If the person in question was a client or friend Or even myself,

Step number one, Stop the dbol.

Step 2, You lower your testosterone dosage to a dose that you know how to handle.

Step 3. You slowly build your dose back up and adjust your ai accordingly.

Step 4. You come to the realization that dbol is not for high estrogen converters And actually doesn't really have a good place in most cycles Because it causes more negative side effects than it does positive results.

There are no rules that apply to everyone, There are no doses that apply to everyone. This is a giant game of trial and error. The best way is to start low and increase in increments and keep notes.
 
Smont said:
If the person in question was a client or friend Or even myself,

Step number one, Stop the dbol.

Step 2, You lower your testosterone dosage to a dose that you know how to handle.

Step 3. You slowly build your dose back up and adjust your ai accordingly.

Step 4. You come to the realization that dbol is not for high estrogen converters And actually doesn't really have a good place in most cycles Because it causes more negative side effects than it does positive results.

There are no rules that apply to everyone, There are no doses that apply to everyone. This is a giant game of trial and error. The best way is to start low and increase in increments and keep notes.
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This.

Someone made the statement that they think that guy above Leary942 is starscream. Not sure if it is him or not but either way he’s making ridiculous posts.
 
sammpedd88 said:
This.

Someone made the statement that they think that guy above Leary942 is starscream. Not sure if it is him or not but either way he’s making ridiculous posts.
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If it was starscream There would be 7 links to 7 pointless things attached to every post lol.

I don't believe it's the same person. I dont have a problem with leary, but leary, you do say a lot of Irrelevant stuff. I also get the vibe that you dont have much real world experience with anabolics and the drugs involved with cycling. I could give a fuk less, i dont thing anything your saying is harmful, but if ppl are comparing you to starscream i have to assume your other posts must all look like random studies that slightly have something to do with the topic but in no way has any relevance to getting a answer or helping the poster. Starscream basically was just a guy who tried really hard to sound smart By quoting seven million irrelevant studies.

Todays anabolic minds quote of the day is......👉 dont be a starscream
 
Smont said:
If it was starscream There would be 7 links to 7 pointless things attached to every post lol.

I don't believe it's the same person. I dont have a problem with leary, but leary, you do say a lot of Irrelevant stuff. I also get the vibe that you dont have much real world experience with anabolics and the drugs involved with cycling. I could give a fuk less, i dont thing anything your saying is harmful, but if ppl are comparing you to starscream i have to assume your other posts must all look like random studies that slightly have something to do with the topic but in no way has any relevance to getting a answer or helping the poster. Starscream basically was just a guy who tried really hard to sound smart By quoting seven million irrelevant studies.

Todays anabolic minds quote of the day is......👉 dont be a starscream
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No, I'm not whoever that guy is. But I could care less what sammpedd88 thinks. I'm not sure you know the full extent to what the issue actually is. See, sam followed me to this thread because he took issue with what I said in another completely irrelevant topic about ketogenic diets. Unlike me, he didn't come here to help the OP with his question. He simply followed me here to continue his harassment because he's butthurt.

As to your point about my anabolic usage you're absolutely correct. I don't use heavy cycles. Never have and never will. I even said as much in a prior post if anyone bothered to read it. I've only ever used topicals, mostly T or DHT. I'm not crazy into anabolics and I rather use them for their cognitive benefits then blasting large dosages and potentially running into problems.

As for any references I may have left behind, feel free to look at them and judge for yourself. I think I've only cited a couple things thus far, but I feel they all have relevancy to what I was discussing in my post.

My remark to the OP in this thread was to address what I thought to be a very blatant question at the end of his post. That being, "does anyone have any experience with this kind of dosage of anastrazole?" I told him it seemed like a heavy dose, and I've only seen that in research papers on cancer patients.

I did not imply that was the end all be all to the question. I suppose people running heavy cycles might use dosages that high, but it's certainly atypical. Most people don't have to dose potent AI's daily, and if they do, I would argue that's indicative of they need to change their cycle. But people are going to do what they wanna do.
 
Leary942 said:
No, I'm not whoever that guy is. But I could care less what sammpedd88 thinks. I'm not sure you know the full extent to what the issue actually is. See, sam followed me to this thread because he took issue with what I said in another completely irrelevant topic about ketogenic diets. Unlike me, he didn't come here to help the OP with his question. He simply followed me here to continue his harassment because he's butthurt.

As to your point about my anabolic usage you're absolutely correct. I don't use heavy cycles. Never have and never will. I even said as much in a prior post if anyone bothered to read it. I've only ever used topicals, mostly T or DHT. I'm not crazy into anabolics and I rather use them for their cognitive benefits then blasting large dosages and potentially running into problems.

As for any references I may have left behind, feel free to look at them and judge for yourself. I think I've only cited a couple things thus far, but I feel they all have relevancy to what I was discussing in my post.

My remark to the OP in this thread was to address what I thought to be a very blatant question at the end of his post. That being, "does anyone have any experience with this kind of dosage of anastrazole?" I told him it seemed like a heavy dose, and I've only seen that in research papers on cancer patients.

I did not imply that was the end all be all to the question. I suppose people running heavy cycles might use dosages that high, but it's certainly atypical. Most people don't have to dose potent AI's daily, and if they do, I would argue that's indicative of they need to change their cycle. But people are going to do what they wanna do.
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Adex or exeme, 1cap a day of either is extreamly common for anyone Running bodybuilding dosages of gear. A gram of test, Which is not much in the body building world it's kind of a standard dose. And that dose requires about 1mg of adex per day For many people. Op cycle 600t and 350dbol Is actually a much heavier converting cycle. 1mg a day Probably isn't even enough if you're a high estrogen converter. If I was running that cycle and my only estrogen control was n ai, i would need 25mg exemstane daily without a doubt.

Anyways, to everyone in the thread, I have given my input on the situation at hand, I have nothing else to add here so i'm gonna see my way out.

Everyone play nice
 
bell1986 said:
I also aromatise fairly bad also.

I've tried all the AI's and their just too much hassles.

Your best bet is primobolan. Add on 300mg to your cycle and your estrogen will sit in range.

I'm on trt and I use 120mg test e + 40mg primo. That small dose of primo brings my estrogen to 30. Keeps it their perfectly. Never changes and doesn't spike then crash like AI's. I felt awful on arimidex/aromasin.

Adding in Calcium D Glucarate + DIM ain't a bad idea also.

Primo also adds to your cycle. Extra mass + estrogen in range. Win win. I had zero side effects on it also. It does lower shbg though so keep an eye on that.
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I tried adding primo last year onto my trt dose and it slowly but surely lowered my hdl.
 
Smont said:
Adex or exeme, 1cap a day of either is extreamly common for anyone Running bodybuilding dosages of gear. A gram of test, Which is not much in the body building world it's kind of a standard dose. And that dose requires about 1mg of adex per day For many people. Op cycle 600t and 350dbol Is actually a much heavier converting cycle. 1mg a day Probably isn't even enough if you're a high estrogen converter. If I was running that cycle and my only estrogen control was n ai, i would need 25mg exemstane daily without a doubt.

Anyways, to everyone in the thread, I have given my input on the situation at hand, I have nothing else to add here so i'm gonna see my way out.

Everyone play nice
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Interesting to know, but yeah I would say what you're describing is a heavy cycle in my opinion. I think we're honestly speaking on different playing fields. Which may be where our hiccup is at. I'm use to seeing 1mg of anastrozole weekly being sufficient for dosages of testosterone I'm use to. I've talked to plenty of people who only need small dosages for 200-500mgs of test per week.
 
Leary942 said:
Interesting to know, but yeah I would say what you're describing is a heavy cycle in my opinion. I think we're honestly speaking on different playing fields. Which may be where our hiccup is at. I'm use to seeing 1mg of anastrozole weekly being sufficient for dosages of testosterone I'm use to. I've talked to plenty of people who only need small dosages for 200-500mgs of test per week.
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Do me a solid, I just said I was gonna see myself out. Please don't keep dragging me back in.
 
khall1974 said:
I tried adding primo last year onto my trt dose and it slowly but surely lowered my hdl.
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There's the downside in using primo, mast, or whatever DHTs for estrogen control.. they will certainly hit your HDL. It's one of the reasons I actually don't run them.
 
@Leary942 I didn’t follow you any where and I’m not the one that accused you of being starscream. I stated someone else accused you of being starscream. Either way I’m going to block you so I don’t have to see your posts.
 
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It would be helpful to know OP's history with these compounds. Nobody just jumps into this type of cycle without prior experience with test and dbol. Also, where are you in the cycle? Was the dbol to kickstart the cycle or are you nearing the finish?
 
Stacks1 said:
It would be helpful to know OP's history with these compounds. Nobody just jumps into this type of cycle without prior experience with test and dbol. Also, where are you in the cycle? Was the dbol to kickstart the cycle or are you nearing the finish?
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To be fair I know someone who's first hormonal anything was test tren and dbol. So people can and do jump into things
 
SSJ4GOD said:
To be fair I know someone who's first hormonal anything was test tren and dbol. So people can and do jump into things
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True. Some people just DGAF. I'm giving OP the benefit of the doubt. It sounds like he's getting his blood work done regularly to identify the problems and then address them according. But it's true... some people just go to the extremes out of the gate.
 
Honestly...
If bloodwork is properly done early on using gear..One should know at exactly what amount of Test an AI or Estrogen Control is needed..
If bloodwork establishes, that he's a heavy converter, looking at running a compound that naturally controls Estrogen..
Running Test at the same Mgs with Proviron, then with Masteron and then Primo..the bloodwork will show exactly how well each compound helps control Estrogen..
It takes time..Yes..!!
But,becomes extremely useful down the road cycling..

Point being...one that converts heavily might be able to use "Wet" compounds with a little Proviron or Primo, with great success..
I see more and more guys opting not to use AI's...instead using other PED's to control Estrogen..
Z...
 
follow up on this:

my bloodwork just came back and my E2 was at 33 pg/mL, which is the upper limit of the normal range.
Symptoms have mostly disappeared. I also tunned down a bit on the dianabol.
 
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