Xpg epiandro

botk1161 said:
Container is 75mg. How much epiandro per mg?
Cannot find this info on any of the supplier sites.
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Resolve answerd it .. container = bottle = 7,500mg or 7.5g
75mg per pump appx = 1ml
100 pumps = 100ml
 
Resolve10 said:
Sorry if I am misunderstanding your question.

There are 7.5g (7500mg) per bottle. There are 100ml per bottle and each serving/pump should be 1ml so there should be 75mg per pump.
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Thanks for the info. Ok so about 250mg a day for 30 days.
 
Thanks to everyone for replying and answering the question.

I'm sorry if a retailer site doesn't have the proper information, but the write up provided to retailers does state the dosage on there, which is 75 mg. per ml.

Epiandro Gel:
  • 7.5 grams Epiandrosterone per bottle
  • 75 mg. Epiandrosterone per ml
  • 100 servings/100 ml per bottle

Xtreme Performance Gels is by far that most epiandrosterone for your money that I'm aware of out of any topical products, and with topicals its not just all about dose, its about the delivery system - and all XPG products utilize the Avant Labs carriers, which a lot of people consider the gold standard for topical products and love the consistency, how easy to apply, and how fast they dry.
 
sns8778 said:
Thanks to everyone for replying and answering the question.

I'm sorry if a retailer site doesn't have the proper information, but the write up provided to retailers does state the dosage on there, which is 75 mg. per ml.

Epiandro Gel:
  • 7.5 grams Epiandrosterone per bottle
  • 75 mg. Epiandrosterone per ml
  • 100 servings/100 ml per bottle
Xtreme Performance Gels is by far that most epiandrosterone for your money that I'm aware of out of any topical products, and with topicals its not just all about dose, its about the delivery system - and all XPG products utilize the Avant Labs carriers, which a lot of people consider the gold standard for topical products and love the consistency, how easy to apply, and how fast they dry.
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By far really? Iconic is about the same deal (mg for mg) if not better depending on sales.
 
botk1161 said:
By far really? Iconic is about the same deal (mg for mg) if not better depending on sales.
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I didn't put Iconic down at all, and never do, because the owner is one of my friends.
Nor was that the brand that I had in mind when I was talking about price breakdowns.

So if you took my post as negative towards him or his products, that wasn't the intention at all, as I probably promote his products more on here than he does himself, and he is someone that I think a lot of on a personal level.

Plus, there was a context to what I wrote:
Xtreme Performance Gels is by far that most epiandrosterone for your money that I'm aware of out of any topical products, and with topicals its not just all about dose, its about the delivery system - and all XPG products utilize the Avant Labs carriers, which a lot of people consider the gold standard for topical products and love the consistency, how easy to apply, and how fast they dry.

I pointed out a combination of cost effective price, the carrier used, and how much people like the consistency, how easy it is to apply, and how fast it dries.

That's all relevant because with with the carrier used in the XPG product, 300 mg. per day is the absolute maximum dose that is to be used.

If someone wants to use more, from a business standpoint - the more product used, the more bottles sold - BUT my answer remains the same - do not exceed 300 mg. of the product per day as the maximum dose.

So, at that, you have a 25 day supply at 31.99 at maximum dose - which is 1.28 per day.

From a strictly cost standpoint:
- Iconic's sells for 59.99 per bottle and they do have some good sales.
- XPG's Epiandro Gel sells for around 31.99 per bottle.

Both are great products and I think that people would enjoy whichever they go with.
 
sns8778 said:
I didn't put Iconic down at all, and never do, because the owner is one of my friends.
Nor was that the brand that I had in mind when I was talking about price breakdowns.

So if you took my post as negative towards him or his products, that wasn't the intention at all, as I probably promote his products more on here than he does himself, and he is someone that I think a lot of on a personal level.

Plus, there was a context to what I wrote:
Xtreme Performance Gels is by far that most epiandrosterone for your money that I'm aware of out of any topical products, and with topicals its not just all about dose, its about the delivery system - and all XPG products utilize the Avant Labs carriers, which a lot of people consider the gold standard for topical products and love the consistency, how easy to apply, and how fast they dry.

I pointed out a combination of cost effective price, the carrier used, and how much people like the consistency, how easy it is to apply, and how fast it dries.

That's all relevant because with with the carrier used in the XPG product, 300 mg. per day is the absolute maximum dose that is to be used.

If someone wants to use more, from a business standpoint - the more product used, the more bottles sold - BUT my answer remains the same - do not exceed 300 mg. of the product per day as the maximum dose.

So, at that, you have a 25 day supply at 31.99 at maximum dose - which is 1.28 per day.

From a strictly cost standpoint:
- Iconic's sells for 59.99 per bottle and they do have some good sales.
- XPG's Epiandro Gel sells for around 31.99 per bottle.

Both are great products and I think that people would enjoy whichever they go with.
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Ok I did not realize it had a novel delivery system.
Is this used with the other XPG gels?
I have used Apex and Iconic for epiandro,
but will have to try XPG
 
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botk1161 said:
Ok I did not realize it had a novel delivery system.
Is this used with the other XPG gels?
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No worries. I just wanted to clarify because it seemed like you thought I was saying something negative about someone and their company, who is actually a very good friend of mine and who doesn't get to post much on here anymore, and I try to speak positively of his products and try to promote them anytime I have a chance to myself.

In context, what I meant by the most cost effective was that all things considered, and with 300 mg. being the absolute maximum dosage for XPG EpiAndro Gel - it is 31.99 per month so its a great price.

I hope that makes sense.

Now, to answer your question:

With topical products in general, the delivery systems used can dramatically affect how much of the active ingredient is absorbed and utilized by the body.

Avant Labs was the original company that introduced topical products to the sports nutrition market many years ago, and their carriers have long been considered by a lot of people to be the gold standard for topical products.

Xtreme Performance Gels uses the Avant Labs carriers for all of their products and each product has specific carrier modifications made to help ensure the absolute maximum absorption for each respective product.

Another great example would be Suppress-C - that was originally my product under CEL and we introduced that probably 15 years ago under CEL and stopped doing topicals under CEL in 2011. Dosages for baet products now days varies pretty big time - and I always tell people the absolute max dose is 4 ml per day so each bottle is a 25 day supply at maximum dose. Again, realistically if someone wanted to use a higher dose - more ml used = more bottles sold = more profit - BUT I stick to the same statement - that with the delivery system used, regardless what people use or have used by other brands, do not exceed 4 ml of Suppress-C per day. It's not a sales pitch, it really is the maximum dose I'd ever want to see anyone use or that I would use myself.
 
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one of the best OG carrier .. and when i found out XPG were using the carrier and the person who owns it i have very highly respect for the guy.

as for Iconic .. i love them as well, i have about 7-8 bottles stashed away of their other Andro's topicals and reps/owner is always available to help out like sns/cel which is why im very supportive of them as well and great products as well.
 
JN230 said:
Would a bottle of epiandro followed by alpha gel be a sufficient cycle and pct?
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I think it would be for most people. If someone wanted to be super sure, they could add something like M-Test, Cloma-Plex, or Optimize-T to it.
 
JN230 said:
Would a bottle of epiandro followed by alpha gel be a sufficient cycle and pct?
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I'm running Alpha gel WITH XPG epiandro and XPG DHEA. I'm not sure if there is a reason why you couldn't run Alpha Gel all the time, I think I have positive results from it.

sns8778 said:
I think it would be for most people. If someone wanted to be super sure, they could add something like M-Test, Cloma-Plex, or Optimize-T to it.
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Are you running an orchic extract product yet? Do you have thoughts on it other than bro science? I have used three different orchic products, two of which I think "produced" greater "results" than the third one. One that was just way too stupid expensive was pretty good but it was also like 6+ capsules a day which is sorta high when I was already stacking like 20 other caps a day lol
 
Dustin07 said:
I'm running Alpha gel WITH XPG epiandro and XPG DHEA. I'm not sure if there is a reason why you couldn't run Alpha Gel all the time, I think I have positive results from it.



Are you running an orchic extract product yet? Do you have thoughts on it other than bro science? I have used three different orchic products, two of which I think "produced" greater "results" than the third one. One that was just way too stupid expensive was pretty good but it was also like 6+ capsules a day which is sorta high when I was already stacking like 20 other caps a day lol
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I think you could run Alpha Gel for as long as you'd like to. I know a lot of people plan on running it as a year round product.

For the Orchic, I'm going to quote your post but carry it over to the Tell Us What You Want from Us thread and reply to it there; that way I can see if other people have an interest in it too.
 
sns8778 said:
I think you could run Alpha Gel for as long as you'd like to. I know a lot of people plan on running it as a year round product.
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Do you think there is any benefit from taking a few weeks off from the Alpha so that it hits hard again when you bring it back?
Conversely, do you think there is any benefit (or downside) to occasionally taking a higher dose?
 
Dustin07 said:
Do you think there is any benefit from taking a few weeks off from the Alpha so that it hits hard again when you bring it back?
Conversely, do you think there is any benefit (or downside) to occasionally taking a higher dose?
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I don't think there would be any downside to occasionally using a higher dosage, but whether there's an upside my depend on the person because Alpha Gel is very well dosed as it is.

Some people may like the idea of taking a few weeks off from things so that they can tell more of a difference when they start it back up again; but I'm more on the science side of the argument where I think that its best to achieve better consistent increases in hormone levels and I'm not a fan of yoyo'ing hormone levels if that makes sense. I don't think that there's necessarily a right or wrong answer and way to do that though, just a matter of personal preference.
 
sns8778 said:
Some people may like the idea of taking a few weeks off from things so that they can tell more of a difference when they start it back up again;
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sns8778 said:
but I'm more on the science side of the argument where I think that its best to achieve better consistent increases in hormone levels and I'm not a fan of yoyo'ing hormone levels if that makes sense.
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both make perfect sense
 
sns8778 said:
It’s not that you can’t talk about brands that you like, it’s that you can’t go into a thread in a company’s own sub-forum &/or a thread that has another company’s name in it, especially in their sub-forum to promote another company’s product.

This thread is in the Xtreme Performance Gels sub-forum and the title of the thread is XPG Epiandro.

This thread is not in the general supplement forum.

I wasn’t being confrontational at all. Ask Rob. I already talked to him about this - I replied to you acknowledging I didn’t care and explained the rule to you bc if someone had reported it you would get banned.

Me replying to you explaining the rule and talking about it myself shows the Admin - hey, don’t ban the guy, he didn’t know.

If you took that as confrontational, I’m not sure why or how when I said I was happy that you do a good job promoting Iconic’s products and don’t want to see you get banned for breaking any rules here.

Tagging @delsolrob and you’re welcome to ask him. I told him exactly how I replied and why, and he will confirm that I was concerned your post would get you banned for it being in the XPG sub-forum and also that I clarified what I did about the differences in the products for the exact reason I said - bc some retailers don’t list supp facts and I wanted to make sure that no one reading mistook UH for regular Epiandro.

You’re accusing me of being confrontational or negative when you posted something about Iconic in the XPG subforum and in an XPG thread - when I started my post off by complimenting you for doing a good job for Rob and me not wanting you to get banned for doing something against the rules. Heck I even said I don’t really care and explained the difference between the products.
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I misunderstood you then, it’s hard to read into written replies sometimes.

listen I like both companies and didn’t mean anything , any way certain about my post.

I also tried to delete both posts and contact you personally.

You or mods or who every can delete these posts as they don’t have to hang around here causing any issues when there isn’t any.

I appreciate your reply
 
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