I was asking because I’ve read some guys use low dose on cycle to not get completely shut down. But as far as using it as a pct would be to send signals to my nutts and brain to start natural t production after cycle. I know tbol doesn’t convert to estrogen so that is why I have 4dhea trans D for some estrogen conversion.
Ok. Seems like you got the gist. For the record though, it would very, very unlikely that a SERM would keep your test production going, when running Tbol. Some have had some success in doing so with a low dose SARM, but that's a low dose SARM.. So I understand that you've seen the SERM on cycle being recommended here and there. And if the SERM would keep your own test production going, then there would be no need for the 4-Andro. But yeah, I just felt like putting you on the spot a little after that question lol.
For pct side of things I’m gonna run 20mg temox a day for 3 weeks along with tonkgat Ali 500mg a day. I’ve seen scientific studies proving it raises natural test.
First dose was 20mg in the morning then another 20mg in the afternoon. Noticed like a big oval of hives coming out from armpit onto the side of my pec. Nothing crazy just hot to the touch and feeling swollen. In the am it was gone so I took the morning 20mg and it came back but bigger and lasted all day. Felt kinda tired and lethargic. Guess this stuff just ain’t for me.
I ordered from a reputable spot. First hand reviews on product lot of guys leaving pics in the comments as well. I just think I’m sensitive to this stuff. Label says Turanabol square pink redish tabs with a line in them and on either side D|P.
Tbol 50mg with 300mg 4-androstenediol is the money cycle. Been running it for 15 years on and off. 4-androstenediol is easy to get in Europe I stock up when I'm there
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I'm not 100% positive but I think fusion is the company that "brought back phera recently" and it was bunk. A d if that's the company they had fake hdrol before that.
Not sure about hdrol but they had bunk superdrol
I don't know about any of those claims but 4-androstenediol is a cheap chemical from sheep's placenta. If your a chemical company you can get 100g for ~$200. Idk what would be the point of making fake chems that are that cheap
It only cost about $5-7 to make a 10ml bottle of most injectable steroids but they get faked or underdosed all the time. I guess this wouldn't be any different. And just because those were fake dosent mean every product is.I don't know about any of those claims but 4-androstenediol is a cheap chemical from sheep's placenta. If your a chemical company you can get 100g for ~$200. Idk what would be the point of making fake chems that are that cheap
Anyway I've been taking 4AD since I was in my teens and it feels exactly the same. I did much prefer when I could go to the supplement store across town and buy Halodrol and 4AD but tbol is easy to get, just wish the underground labs would make 4ad so I could make a 1 shop order.
I don't use 4ad I'm on testosterone year round. Only reason I looked to them was hdrol a few years back when no1 else had it, and like many others here I was excited to see phera and all the feedback was bad. If yiu ever used phera it's very noticable in about 2 weeks that it's working. I don't typically look to prohormones when I have plenty of real gear but there's a few oldies I'm found of. Hdrol and phera being the main 2. That's why it stuck in my head
I don't think it has the ability to bring testosterone too far out of tge natty range, they would definitely need before and afters
I don't know about any of those claims but 4-androstenediol is a cheap chemical from sheep's placenta. If your a chemical company you can get 100g for ~$200. Idk what would be the point of making fake chems that are that cheap
Anyway I've been taking 4AD since I was in my teens and it feels exactly the same. I did much prefer when I could go to the supplement store across town and buy Halodrol and 4AD but tbol is easy to get, just wish the underground labs would make 4ad so I could make a 1 shop order.
4-androstenediol doesn't rely on your body to want to convert it into test like 4dhea does. When it enters the liver, the enzymes present turn it into test. The only limiting factor is how much your gut absorbs. I wish someone would take the lyposomal approach to 4ad so it would digest slowly. It would be
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🗑4-androstenediol doesn't rely on your body to want to convert it into test like 4dhea does. When it enters the liver, the enzymes present turn it into test. The only limiting factor is how much your gut absorbs. I wish someone would take the lyposomal approach to 4ad so it would digest slowly. It would be
.🗑. 4AD at the price I buy it today at in bulk is even cheaper then TRT treatments/year and I can increase and decrease as I'd like on a day to day basis. When I'm injured and want to heal up faster I bump it to 400mg for a week. When I'm in good shape and just want to cruise I run 250mg. I'm not a body builder I'm an athlete and wrestling is my sport. I enjoy the decreased reaction time and ability to train more for longer. I'm also almost 40 so to keep competing with the 20 year olds I need an edge 
Like I said 4dhea is trash. Does nothing but waste your money. The worst is they pay people to make fake testimonials on videos to make sales knowing their products are junk.
Ask I'd buy....
4-androstenediol doesn't rely on your body to want to convert it into test like 4dhea does. When it enters the liver, the enzymes present turn it into test. The only limiting factor is how much your gut absorbs. I wish someone would take the lyposomal approach to 4ad so it would digest slowly. It would be.
These young kids just getting into the game don't realize the strength of the PHs that were available in the 2000s. This stuff is legit and cheap. The stuff available today is straight up scams. 4dhea does nothing for you but waste your money
4-androstenediol doesn't rely on your body to want to convert it into test like 4dhea does. When it enters the liver, the enzymes present turn it into test. The only limiting factor is how much your gut absorbs. I wish someone would take the lyposomal approach to 4ad so it would digest slowly. It would be
These young kids just getting into the game don't realize the strength of the PHs that were available in the 2000s. This stuff was legit and cheap. The stuff available today in US is straight up scams. Everything I've tried BS Labs, Hi tech, Iron Mag, did nothing for me but waste your money. 4AD at the price I buy it today at in bulk is even cheaper then TRT treatments/year and I can increase and decrease as I'd like on a day to day basis. When I'm injured and want to heal up faster I bump it to 400mg for a week. When I'm in good shape and just want to cruise I run 250mg. I'm not a body builder I'm an athlete and wrestling is my sport. I enjoy the decreased reaction time and ability to train more for longer. I'm also almost 40 so to keep competing with the 20 year olds I need an edge
4dhea isn't even close to 4ad. The reason people don't make 4ad is it is a patented product when it comes to putting it in a supplement. Because someone owns the patent n
Like I said 4dhea is trash. Does nothing but waste your money. The worst is they pay people to make fake testimonials on videos to make sales knowing their products are junk.
Never used SARMs I just stick to underground labs and buying bulk over seas of 4ad
Ask I'd buy....
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