Test, Primo, Mast + TBOL & hgh

gphagan1 said:
Yeah, that’s the tough part when we have to get our compounds from UGLs is there’s always a chance of getting hold of something that is possibly contaminated, which can cause inflammation, that can show up with many different symptoms like pain, lethargy, even a fever and infections. But usually you don’t see that with GH, but obviously there may be something off with the first. I got some from a trusted source that burned like it was DHB or something. It definitely wasn’t as good as other GH I had, but was working. Finally I trashed the last few bottles and switched brands. All though there does seem to be more legit GH out there now and not as much fake as there was the few years before COVID in 2020. I think more labs don’t want the reputation of bad gear.
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It’s certainly an interesting game. I think that it’s probably legit but I need to change the dosage compared to the brand that I had before. Sometimes less is more. Will see how it goes this week. Im excited to not have to deload though.
 
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There’s something wrong with the hgh. Real or not, i will discontinue use. I feel and perform so much better without it. I keep learning lessons on this cycle. Regardless, I can’t do anything about that so I’ll focus on what I can control by having a successful two more months of cycle with the gear that I know works the way it’s supposed to. Thanks for the encouragement Mike and GP 💪🏻👊🏻 excited for Tuesday’s workout
 
JoeJohn said:
There’s something wrong with the hgh. Real or not, i will discontinue use. I feel and perform so much better without it. I keep learning lessons on this cycle. Regardless, I can’t do anything about that so I’ll focus on what I can control by having a successful two more months of cycle with the gear that I know works the way it’s supposed to. Thanks for the encouragement Mike and GP 💪🏻👊🏻 excited for Tuesday’s workout
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Probably a smart choice….sometimes you just don’t know what you’ve got. Better safe than sorry.
 
Chest and Back

Super 1
Incline bench- 3 dots showing (4th at 1/2) and pinkies on groove. Progressive warmup: 155-5-205-4-245-3*-275-2*-300-1 super set with 5 ball slams.
  1. 315-1 (fail on 2)
  2. 325-1
Wide grip pull ups- progressive warmup with 2 sets of ball slams (chins next week)
  1. 90-4
  2. 90-2
Super 2
Hammer Press or low incline dumbbell
  1. 270-6 (elbow twinge)
  2. 180-12 (slow with pause)
Barbell rev row
  1. 225-12
  2. 275-2 (too heavy)
Super 3
Low to high Machine flys
  1. 50-10
  2. 50-10
Straight arm pull downs
  1. 100-10
  2. 120-10
Super 4
Dips to fail
  1. BW- 20 (pause on bottom slow)
  2. BW-10 “ “
One arm pull-ups (assisted pause on bottom with max stretch)
  1. 150-4
  2. 150-4
Normal 5
Straight Arm pullovers
  1. 40-10
  2. 40-10

Cardio 6% incline at 3mph
 
JoeJohn said:
There’s something wrong with the hgh. Real or not, i will discontinue use. I feel and perform so much better without it. I keep learning lessons on this cycle. Regardless, I can’t do anything about that so I’ll focus on what I can control by having a successful two more months of cycle with the gear that I know works the way it’s supposed to. Thanks for the encouragement Mike and GP 💪🏻👊🏻 excited for Tuesday’s workout
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No problem it's what we're here for
 
1 hour BJJ. Felt great and moved well. Early introduction of real T bol and I like it so far. Will run at 50mg for 6 weeks.
 
Mikereyn513 said:
That's what all the mma guys run. Dave Crossland always talks about how tbol is great for athletics
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John Jones loved or should I say loves it. Some of those East German women, back in the day, looked like they could’ve fought in the UFC.😎
 
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JoeJohn said:
There’s something wrong with the hgh. Real or not, i will discontinue use. I feel and perform so much better without it. I keep learning lessons on this cycle. Regardless, I can’t do anything about that so I’ll focus on what I can control by having a successful two more months of cycle with the gear that I know works the way it’s supposed to. Thanks for the encouragement Mike and GP 💪🏻👊🏻 excited for Tuesday’s workout
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What do you feel is wrong with the gh, like what's the actual issues it's presenting you.
Mikereyn513 said:
That's what all the mma guys run. Dave Crossland always talks about how tbol is great for athletics
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Yes, great for sport specific training, strength and performance without much if any weight gain. I think it's fairly useless for bodybuilding just because there's so many better choices (so not useless but less useful by comparison) but for weight class limiting sports it's fantastic. If I had some tbol on hand I'd probably use it leading up to my fight lol. But then again I've lost so much weight I'd probably start gaining on it if I didn't damn near starve
 
Smont said:
What do you feel is wrong with the gh, like what's the actual issues it's presenting you.
Yes, great for sport specific training, strength and performance without much if any weight gain. I think it's fairly useless for bodybuilding just because there's so many better choices (so not useless but less useful by comparison) but for weight class limiting sports it's fantastic. If I had some tbol on hand I'd probably use it leading up to my fight lol. But then again I've lost so much weight I'd probably start gaining on it if I didn't damn near starve
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Yeah, Tbol would be a good one for boxing.
 
Smont said:
What do you feel is wrong with the gh, like what's the actual issues it's presenting you.
Yes, great for sport specific training, strength and performance without much if any weight gain. I think it's fairly useless for bodybuilding just because there's so many better choices (so not useless but less useful by comparison) but for weight class limiting sports it's fantastic. If I had some tbol on hand I'd probably use it leading up to my fight lol. But then again I've lost so much weight I'd probably start gaining on it if I didn't damn near starve
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Lol! Yep, trying to improve athleticism (strength, speed, reaction etc) while leaning out/maintaining muscle. So far, so good with TBOL. With the GH, my joints became snap crackle pop on a dose of 2 ius within minutes after injection. It felt like I took a high dose of winny. The GH I had before it had no such issues. Good luck in your fight 👊🏻
 
Smont said:
What do you feel is wrong with the gh, like what's the actual issues it's presenting you.
Yes, great for sport specific training, strength and performance without much if any weight gain. I think it's fairly useless for bodybuilding just because there's so many better choices (so not useless but less useful by comparison) but for weight class limiting sports it's fantastic. If I had some tbol on hand I'd probably use it leading up to my fight lol. But then again I've lost so much weight I'd probably start gaining on it if I didn't damn near starve
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I believe that's why the Germans invented it I the first place for strength and performance without weight gain
 
Mikereyn513 said:
I believe that's why the Germans invented it I the first place for strength and performance without weight gain
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Correct, so the Olympic athletes could set new records without going up a weight class. Seems to be much less supressive then other steroids too and I think that was also part of the plan.
 
Smont said:
Correct, so the Olympic athletes could set new records without going up a weight class. Seems to be much less supressive then other steroids too and I think that was also part of the plan.
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Yeah, not sure exactly, but rumor was they would run it for like 4 to 6 months.
 
Happy to be Back from Deload

Tuesday Legs

Bounds with 10lbs max vert x5
  1. 10-5
  2. 10-5
Depth Jumps 2x3 max height
  1. 20”-3-
  2. 20”-3-
Super
KOT banded Knee dev extensions
  1. Black-20
  2. Purple-20
  3. Purple- 20
Strict Glutes Backflips
  1. 10
  2. 10
  3. 10
Super
Nordics super x5
  1. BW
  2. BW
  3. BW
Weighted Samurai w squeeze with purple mini bands x10
  1. 30-10-
  2. 30-10-
  3. 30-10-
Box Squats pause
  1. 135-5-
  2. 185-5-
  3. 225-5-
Seated kettle good mornings x10
  1. 40-10
  2. 40-10
  3. 40-10
KOT lunges
  1. BW-5/5-
  2. BW-5/5-
  3. BW-5/5-
 
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Push

CG 2 board press w/pause & mini bands 2x
  1. 225-10-
  2. 225-7-

8 dot high 60%incline Dumbbell press
  1. 70-10
  2. 80-10
  3. 90-6

Low incline flys
  1. 50-10
  2. 50-10

Hammer Machine lateral raises
  1. 100-10
  2. 100-10

Cable Rev laterals 10 reps
  1. 10-10
  2. 10-10

Dumbbell JM press and WS rollback
  1. 30-10
  2. 40-10
  3. 50-6

Cable overhead tricep extensions
  1. 80-10
  2. 110-10

Rev cable Tri
  1. 80-10
  2. 100-10
 
Saturday pull

Overhand Barbell Rows
  1. 225-10
  2. 245-10
Fat bar Reverse grip pull downs
  1. 220-10
  2. 235-5
Cable Pullovers
  1. 100-20
  2. 100-20
Hammer Row w squeeze at top
  1. 90-10
  2. 180-10
  3. 270-10
Bicep curls
  1. 95-12
  2. 115-5
Cable Rev curls
  1. 80-10
  2. 100-10
Kettle curls
  1. 30-10
  2. 30-10
Ab circuit
Cable Crunch 3x25- 100 lbs
Hanging leg raises- 3x10-x
Cable side raises- 3x25- 100 lbs

Cardio LISS 3mph at 6% incline 30 minutes
 
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JoeJohn said:
Saturday pull

Overhand Barbell Rows
  1. 225-10
  2. 245-10
Fat bar Reverse grip pull downs
  1. 220-10
  2. 235-5
Cable Pullovers
  1. 100-20
  2. 100-20
Hammer Row w squeeze at top
  1. 90-10
  2. 180-10
  3. 270-10
Bicep curls
  1. 95-12
  2. 115-5
Cable Rev curls
  1. 80-10
  2. 100-10
Kettle curls
  1. 30-10
  2. 30-10
Ab circuit
Cable Crunch 3x25- 100 lbs
Hanging leg raises- 3x10-x
Cable side raises- 3x25- 100 lbs

Cardio LISS 3mph at 6% incline 30 minutes
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You're back os getting strong!! That's a lot to bb row
 
JoeJohn said:
Day 7 of TBOL and it feels like it’s kicking in. It’s a good start. I’m hoping to shatter some PRs by the end of week 6. Thanks Mike 💪🏻👊🏻
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I'm sure you will with tbol. It's specifically designed for performance. About day 7 I when I really start to feel orals as well
 
Tuesday Legs

Bounds with light weight max vert x5
  1. 8-5
  2. 8-5
Depth Jumps 2x3 max height
  1. 20”-3-
  2. 20”-3-
Super
Nordics super x5
  1. BW
  2. BW
  3. BW
Weighted Samurai ass squeeze with mini bands x10 purple rope
  1. 20-10-
  2. 20-10-
  3. 20-10-
Super
Strict Glutes Backflips
  1. 10
  2. 10
  3. 10
Seated kettle good mornings x10
  1. 30-10
  2. 30-10
  3. 30-10
Super
Box Squats pause 5 reds
  1. 135-5-
  2. 185-5-
  3. 225-5-
  4. 275-5-
KOT banded Knee dev extensions
  1. Purple-10
  2. Purple-10
  3. Purple- 10
  4. Purple- 10

KOT lunges
  1. BW- 10 with pause
Leg press machine calve raises
  1. 450x30
 
Push

CG 2 board press w/pause w bands 2x (weeks 1-3) (odd bench set up @ different gym)
  1. 255-6
  2. 255-4

8 dot Medium incline Dumbbell press
  1. 85-10
  2. 100-10

Low incline flys
  1. 50-12
  2. 50-12

Dumbbell lateral raises
  1. 30-15
  2. 30-12

Cable Rev laterals 10 reps
  1. 10-10
  2. 10-10

Dumbbell WS rollback extensions
  1. 30-12
  2. 40-10
  3. 50-9

Cable overhead tricep extensions (different cable/different gym)
  1. 70-12
  2. 70-10

Rev cable Tri (different cable/different gym)
  1. 30-15
  2. 40-12
 
Saturday pull 9.23

Overhand barbell rows
  1. 235-12
  2. 265-6
Fat bar Reverse grip pull downs
  1. 235-9
  2. 250-3
Barbell Pullovers
  1. 100-10
  2. 100-10
Underhand Hammer machine Row w squeeze at top
  1. 200-10
  2. 220-9
Bicep curls
  1. 95-12
  2. 115-3
Cable Rev curls
  1. 100-10
  2. 110-6
Kettle curls
  1. 30-10
  2. 30-10
Ab circuit
Cable Crunch 3x25- 100 lbs
Hanging leg raises- 3x10-x
Cable side raises- 3x25- 100 lbs
 
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A rough week of travel, stress, lack of sleep and poor nutrition. Still moving forward though.
 

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Tuesday Legs

Bounds with light weight max vert x5
  1. 10-5
  2. 10-5

Depth Jumps 2x3 max height
  1. 20”-3-
  2. 20”-3-

Super
Nordics super x5
  1. BW
  2. BW
Weighted Samurai ass squeeze with mini bands x10 black strap
  1. 20-10-
  2. 20-10-

Super
Strict Glutes Backflips
  1. 10
  2. 10
KOT banded Knee dev extensions
  1. Black-10
  2. Black-10


Box Squats pause 5 reds
  1. 135-5-
  2. 225-5-
  3. 295-5-

super
KOT lunges
  1. BW- 10 with pause
  2. 10-
Seated kettle good mornings x10
  1. 30-10
  2. 30-10
seated press machine calve raises
  1. 400-15
 
Push

CG 2 board press w/pause w bands 2x (weeks 1-3) more tension for some reason on the top
  1. 275-3

8 dot Medium incline Dumbbell press
  1. 100-10
  2. 120-5

Low incline flys
  1. 40-15
  2. 50-11

Hammer lateral raises
  1. 100-15
  2. 120-9

Machine Rev laterals 10 reps
  1. 100-15
  2. 10-10

Dumbbell WS rollback extensions
  1. 40-10
  2. 50-10

Cable overhead tricep extensions
  1. 110-10
  2. 120-8

Rev cable Tri
  1. 80-12
  2. 90-13
 
Saturday pull

Overhand rows
  1. 255-11
  2. 275-3

Fat bar Reverse grip pull downs
  1. 250-8
  2. 265-3

Cable Pullovers
  1. 100-12
  2. 100-12

Hammer machine Row w squeeze at top
  1. 180-10
  2. 270-10

Bicep curls
  1. 105-12
  2. 120-6

Cable Rev curls
  1. 90-10
  2. 110-6

Kettle curls
  1. 30-10
  2. 30-10

Ab circuit
Cable Crunch 3x25- 100 lbs
Hanging leg raises- 3x10-x
Cable side raises- 3x25- 100 lbs
 
Legs


Power
Hops 2x5 with 10s

Depth jumps 24” box to max height 2x3

Pin front 3/4 Squats
  1. 135-5
  2. 185-5
  3. 225-5

Smith ATG heels elevated
  1. 50-12
  2. 70-12
  3. 90-15

KOT ATG elevated split squat
  1. 3 red- 5
  2. 2 red- 5
  3. 1 red- 5

Nordics 3x5

Samurai with band and 30lb med ball ass squeeze 3x10

Backflip butt squeeze 3x10

Bullshit calf machine
  1. 200-20
  2. 300-20
 
Push

Migraine and weakness from the start. Got through it. Will be happy to see the progress next week.

Incline barbell paused w/ pinkies on rings
  1. 280-5
  2. 280-3

8 dot Medium incline Dumbbell press
  1. 110-9
  2. 120-5

Low incline flys
  1. 50-15
  2. 70-10

BW Dips
  1. 20
  2. 10

Hammer lateral raises
  1. 120-15
  2. 140-10

Machine Rev laterals 10 reps
  1. 120-10
  2. 135-10

Barbell JM press
  1. 95-10
  2. 115-6

Rev cable Tri
  1. 110-10
  2. 120-10
 
Saturday pull

Overhand rows
  1. 265-8
  2. 280-3

Fat bar Reverse grip pull downs
  1. 265-6
  2. 280- 1 +1 neg

Barbell Pullovers
  1. 100-13
  2. 100-13

Hammer machine Row w squeeze at top
  1. 180-10
  2. 270-12

Bicep curls
  1. 115-10
  2. 135-3

Cable Rev curls
  1. 100-10
  2. 100-10

Kettle curls
  1. 35-10
  2. 35-10

Ab circuit
Cable Crunch 3x25- 100 lbs
Hanging leg raises- 3x11
Cable side raises- 3x25- 100 lbs
 
Joints feeling a little sore. I’ve lost some BF and perhaps there isn’t a need for as much Adex now. E2 might be too low. Will skip my Monday Adex dose to see if I feel better after that.
 
Power
Hops 2x5 with 10s

Depth jumps 24” box to max height 2x3

Pin front 3/4 Squats
  1. 135-5
  2. 185-5
  3. 225-5
  4. 275-1 (felt it in my shoulders/need strap)

Super
KOT ATG elevated split squat
  1. 3 red- 5
  2. 2 red- 5
  3. 1 red- 5
Backflip butt squeeze 3x10

Smith ATG heels elevated
  1. 90-12
  2. 90-12

Nordics 2x5

Leg press calve raises
  1. 180-20
  2. 360-20
  3. 540-15
 
Push

Incline barbell paused w/ pinkies on rings
  1. 300-4
  2. 300-3 (keep elbow at 45)

Hammer Chest Press
  1. 180-10
  2. 270-4

Cable Flys
  1. 80-11
  2. 100-8

BW Dips
  1. 25
  2. 20

Hammer lateral raises
  1. 130-15
  2. 150-9

Machine Rev laterals 10 reps
  1. 130-12
  2. 145-10

Barbell JM press
  1. 95-10
  2. 115-10
  3. 135-7

Rev cable Tri
  1. 110-12
  2. 120-12
 
Saturday pull

Overhand rows
  1. 225-10
  2. 255-10
  3. 280-5 (w straps)

Fat bar Reverse grip pull downs
  1. 280-3

Barbell Pullovers
  1. 100-15
  2. 100-15

Cybex machine Row w squeeze at top
  1. 180-10
  2. 270-10
  3. 330-5

Bicep curls
  1. 125-8

Cable Rev curls
  1. 110-10
  2. 120-5

Kettle curls
  1. 35-12
  2. 35-12

Ab circuit
Cable Crunch 3x25- 100 lbs
Hanging leg raises- 3x10-x
Cable side raises- 3x25- 100 lbs
 
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