Test/tren/mast cycle

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I’m pretty experienced with gear. 6th cycle. Tan tren twice before. I’ve got all of that figured out. Here’s my question…..

Mon - 125 test/ 50 tren a/ 100 mast a
Tues - 50 tren/ 100 mast
Wed - no pins
Thurs - 50 tren/100 mast
Fri - 125 test/ 50 tren/ 100 mast
Sat - no pins
Sun - no pins

Is it ok to have those gaps? I hated having to pin everyday in the past.
And I don’t wanna go above 200 tren a week. I found 200-250 was my sweet spot for gains and no sides.
 

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I think 2 days will be fine, no more than that. You could even pin Friday night and then first thing Monday morning.
 
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I work night shift so I pin everyday at noon. But…. Maybe I can just pin when I get home at 1am Friday night. Hmm. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

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I work night shift so I pin everyday at noon. But…. Maybe I can just pin when I get home at 1am Friday night. Hmm. Thanks for the suggestion.
Im doing the same thing right now with my tren m/w/f..still haven't decided if im just gonna do EOD until both my vials run out or stick with the m/w/f schedule
 
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Im doing the same thing right now with my tren m/w/f..still haven't decided if im just gonna do EOD until both my vials run out or stick with the m/w/f schedule
M-W-F is super convenient, I'm always trying to pin eod but I always end up skipping the weekend one
 
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So 250 test/wk and 400 mast/wk

Are you concerned about your E2 getting too low with the mast being that much higher than test?
 

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M-W-F is super convenient, I'm always trying to pin eod but I always end up skipping the weekend one
Funny you brought that up, was gonna ask you if I should just do 50 EOD instead of doing m/w/f. I think I'll stick to that tho cuz I take I with my mast which is on that schedule
 
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So 250 test/wk and 400 mast/wk

Are you concerned about your E2 getting too low with the mast being that much higher than test?
I honestly don’t know the answer to that. I’ve read in many Threads that mast worked best at at least 400-500 a week. So I’m giving 400 a shot. This is my first time using mast. I’m 9 percent bf and heard that it kept the tren sides at bay and really shined if you’re single digit bf.
 
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Funny you brought that up, was gonna ask you if I should just do 50 EOD instead of doing m/w/f. I think I'll stick to that tho cuz I take I with my mast which is on that schedule
Last time I used tren it was m/w/f pins. But this time I’m adding mast. Which means more going into me each pin. Which sucks. Hence why I’m trying the m/t/th/fr thing. So I can split the tren in 50 each and the mast in 100 each.
 
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I honestly don’t know the answer to that. I’ve read in many Threads that mast worked best at at least 400-500 a week. So I’m giving 400 a shot. This is my first time using mast. I’m 9 percent bf and heard that it kept the tren sides at bay and really shined if you’re single digit bf.
I would get some bloodwork done to see what you E2 is at with these dosages...just so you for the future
 
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9% BF is pretty impressive...

You got any pics?
 

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I honestly don’t know the answer to that. I’ve read in many Threads that mast worked best at at least 400-500 a week. So I’m giving 400 a shot. This is my first time using mast. I’m 9 percent bf and heard that it kept the tren sides at bay and really shined if you’re single digit bf.
Is it mast prop or enth..I got mast enth at 200 and tren ace at 100
 

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What's the goal..just to keep what you have going?
 
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That looks leaner than 9% bro.
I'd say 9 as a good assessment. I think everyone underestimates what accurate bodyfat is. This dude is probably somewhere in that 8-9% range, which is bodybuilding lean and gen pop shredded!.
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Most ppl think there 10% because they got abs and there really like 14-16%
 
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I'd say 9 as a good assessment. I think everyone underestimates what accurate bodyfat is. This dude is probably somewhere in that 8-9% range, which is bodybuilding lean and gen pop shredded!.
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Most ppl think there 10% because they got abs and there really like 14-16%
Facts! Lol I use the handheld one in the past and it said 11 percent. Then I did a caliper test and I was like at 14 lol. T
 
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What's the goal..just to keep what you have going?
I’m 5’10 168 give or take. I fluctuate a lot being an ectomorph with a super high metabolism. But my goal is to be 175 lean. 8-9 percent for the summer. I don’t wanna look “contest ready” tho. That’s crazy to be walking around like that.
 
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Facts! Lol I use the handheld one in the past and it said 11 percent. Then I did a caliper test and I was like at 14 lol. T
Just don't try to use the scales you stand on, those ones suck. I had one tell me I was 28% while I had a 6 pack and veins and separation in my chest. Which I was probably 10-11%
 
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I’m 5’10 168 give or take. I fluctuate a lot being an ectomorph with a super high metabolism. But my goal is to be 175 lean. 8-9 percent for the summer. I don’t wanna look “contest ready” tho. That’s crazy to be walking around like that.
I'd push up to 190-195 and cut back to 175/180

Those numbers are arbitrary, I think yiu could easily put on 25lbs without loosing sight of yiur abs, they will fade but I think you could still be fairly lean even at the end of a bulk so it wouldn't take a massive cut to gut back to yiur desired look.
 

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Yea op it looks like you got some decent genetics for this, I know summer is around thr corner and you wanna stay lean, but this fall I would get fully blown, test, eq, npp around 4000 calories and yiu could get to 195 and still stay jacked
 
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So I bumped tren to 300 and mast to 500. I had zero sides and felt great at 200 and 400. Almost 2 weeks at 300 and big difference. Anger. Agitation. Aggression. Paranoia and overthinking. Lethargy. Results are great tho lol. Not sure if it’s worth it tho. Anyone else have these issues with tren?
 

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I'm at 300 tren 600 mast ( with test and eq) and yea I got some sides but they're manageable and totally worth it to me. The raging libido is annoying especially with no girl. Trensomnia for sure. I think the irritability and short temper have to do more with the hard-core diet, cardio 7 days week, and lack of sleep more than the actual tren itself tho
 
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I'm at 300 tren 600 mast ( with test and eq) and yea I got some sides but they're manageable and totally worth it to me. The raging libido is annoying especially with no girl. Trensomnia for sure. I think the irritability and short temper have to do more with the hard-core diet, cardio 7 days week, and lack of sleep more than the actual tren itself tho
How is 600 mast working for you? And what are you running test at? I thought about going higher on mast cuz I have an extra bottle. I’m running 300 test 300 tren 500 mast.
 
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So I bumped tren to 300 and mast to 500. I had zero sides and felt great at 200 and 400. Almost 2 weeks at 300 and big difference. Anger. Agitation. Aggression. Paranoia and overthinking. Lethargy. Results are great tho lol. Not sure if it’s worth it tho. Anyone else have these issues with tren?
If you keep it in the 100-200 range side effects are far less pronounced and sometimes nonexistent, at least the noticeable sides. Seems like over that is where issues start. I'd just back it off to 200. It's still gonna work
 

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How is 600 mast working for you? And what are you running test at? I thought about going higher on mast cuz I have an extra bottle. I’m running 300 test 300 tren 500 mast.
609 mast is perfect but my test is also at 750 so you may not need mast that high. When I bumped mast from 400 to 600 there a noticed a lot more hardness and vascularity, but again I'm not running an AI so that dose may have dropped my estro enough to give me that look
 
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If you keep it in the 100-200 range side effects are far less pronounced and sometimes nonexistent, at least the noticeable sides. Seems like over that is where issues start. I'd just back it off to 200. It's still gonna work
I’m gonna give it one more week at 300 (cuz I have a 4 day beach vacation this weekend) then I’ll back it off. Lol
 
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609 mast is perfect but my test is also at 750 so you may not need mast that high. When I bumped mast from 400 to 600 there a noticed a lot more hardness and vascularity, but again I'm not running an AI so that dose may have dropped my estro enough to give me that look
Do I need to up my test if I run mast at 600? Or will 300 suffice?
 

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Do I need to up my test if I run mast at 600? Or will 300 suffice?
No you should be fine at 300. For what you're trying to do it would be probably be better thst you did
 

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