Has anyone tried IML Super 1-Andro Cream and how should I run the cycle?

[Dboy111]

Has anyone tried this transdermal cream? I heard it works better and it doesn’t affect your liver. Does it shut you down too? Does it work better than the oral Andro 1? I wanted to try an Andro 1 solo for my first cycle. The cream or oral just trying to figuring out which one is better. What are the best brands? Im 28 5’ 8” 170lbs athletic lean build working out off and on for 8 years. How should I do the cycle? On cycle support? Pct? If so what should I use and what doses? What were the gains like for an Andro 1 cycle? Sides? Shutting down, hair loss, acne, depression, anxiety, insomnia, mood swings, any of that? I heard you can take the Andro 4 with it too but I heard the Andro 1 is safer because it’s non methylated, doesn’t convert to dht or estrogen and non toxic on the liver so wanted to run it solo. Sorry for all the questions just looking for some help. Thanks guys.

 

[Ironpirate]

Don't take 1 andro solo. Take it with dermacrine, 4 Andro, or use icon one which is basically 1 andro and dermacrine. Transdermal is better than pills in many ways.

 

[djestradai1]

Don't take 1 andro solo. Take it with dermacrine, 4 Andro, or use icon one which is basically 1 andro and dermacrine. Transdermal is better than pills in many ways.

Thanks what is dermacrine? Doesn’t andro 4 have more side effect it converts to estrogen gyno? That’s why I wanted to run andro 1 solo. Heard some people that ran it solo and made gains I shouldn’t do that? What about arimistane? PCT? Doses?

 

[Stacks1]

Thanks what is dermacrine? Doesn’t andro 4 have more side effect it converts to estrogen gyno? That’s why I wanted to run andro 1 solo. Heard some people that ran it solo and made gains I shouldn’t do that? What about arimistane? PCT? Doses?

DHEA or 4-andro can act as a test base. 1-andro can cause lethargy, so running one of those is a good idea. Sides for 1-andro are lethargy, suppression (shutdown), hair loss, etc. Arimistane won't do much. I would always keep a legit AI on hand. Even if the cycle doesn't cause gyno you can always get gyno once you bounce back.

As for PCT I always run a SERM but andros are pretty mild, so I'd do something like clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5 or nolva 20/20/10/10. Plenty of guys run it higher but I believe that would suffice for this type of cycle.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

Here is the main jist of it:
You CAN run 1-andro solo and you WILL see strength and muscle gains, but you will PROBABLY have issues with lethargy and sexual dysfunction because estrogen is actually pretty important to have some of. 4-andro fulfills the bodies estrogen needs. Any hormonal you ever take has the potential to cause gyno or estrogen rebound because that’s just what happens when you get shut down.
option 1: just do 1-andro and accept not feeling good
Option 2: 1-andro with something like dermacrine
Option 3: best option is to stack the 1 andro with 4 andro. You will see the best gains and feel the best using these two together.

 

[djestradai1]

Here is the main jist of it:
You CAN run 1-andro solo and you WILL see strength and muscle gains, but you will PROBABLY have issues with lethargy and sexual dysfunction because estrogen is actually pretty important to have some of. 4-andro fulfills the bodies estrogen needs. Any hormonal you ever take has the potential to cause gyno or estrogen rebound because that’s just what happens when you get shut down.
option 1: just do 1-andro and accept not feeling good
Option 2: 1-andro with something like dermacrine
Option 3: best option is to stack the 1 andro with 4 andro. You will see the best gains and feel the best using these two together.

Thanks what are the best brand Andros to take? Do I need on cycle support or PCT? Which ones and what doses?

 

[djestradai1]

DHEA or 4-andro can act as a test base. 1-andro can cause lethargy, so running one of those is a good idea. Sides for 1-andro are lethargy, suppression (shutdown), hair loss, etc. Arimistane won't do much. I would always keep a legit AI on hand. Even if the cycle doesn't cause gyno you can always get gyno once you bounce back.

As for PCT I always run a SERM but andros are pretty mild, so I'd do something like clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5 or nolva 20/20/10/10. Plenty of guys run it higher but I believe that would suffice for this type of cycle.

Thanks what’s DHEA is that different that the andros? What are the best andro brands to take? Cycle supports or anything worse during? What are the odds of getting gyno?

 

[Jstrong20]

Lots of basic questions can be answer by searching on here. You should make sure you understand what you are getting into. Even though not methylated I think I have seen reports of liver stress from 1 Andro and it can throw lipids off. I'm not up on my 1 Andro because I haven't used it in years. Have ran iconic 4 Andro it works great as a base and was better then I expected. Estrogen probably won't be a concern for most but it doesn't hurt to keep some rolaxafeine on hand Incase. It's cheap and you will need to order a pct anyway. Clomid or nolva. Research both. Lots of threads on here.

 

[Mikereyn513]

Bro I'm not trying to be a dick but if you're asking this many questions without doing any of the research you're not ready for any of this. That's why none of the long time members with legend status haven't responded to you at all. Do yourself a favor and put a little effort in some research and if you have questions about that then im sure more people would be happy to help

 

[Dboy111]

Lots of basic questions can be answer by searching on here. You should make sure you understand what you are getting into. Even though not methylated I think I have seen reports of liver stress from 1 Andro and it can throw lipids off. I'm not up on my 1 Andro because I haven't used it in years. Have ran iconic 4 Andro it works great as a base and was better then I expected. Estrogen probably won't be a concern for most but it doesn't hurt to keep some rolaxafeine on hand Incase. It's cheap and you will need to order a pct anyway. Clomid or nolva. Research both. Lots of threads on here.

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

 

[Dboy111]

Bro I'm not trying to be a dick but if you're asking this many questions without doing any of the research you're not ready for any of this. That's why none of the long time members with legend status haven't responded to you at all. Do yourself a favor and put a little effort in some research and if you have questions about that then im sure more people would be happy to help

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

 

[Dboy111]

Here is the main jist of it:
You CAN run 1-andro solo and you WILL see strength and muscle gains, but you will PROBABLY have issues with lethargy and sexual dysfunction because estrogen is actually pretty important to have some of. 4-andro fulfills the bodies estrogen needs. Any hormonal you ever take has the potential to cause gyno or estrogen rebound because that’s just what happens when you get shut down.
option 1: just do 1-andro and accept not feeling good
Option 2: 1-andro with something like dermacrine
Option 3: best option is to stack the 1 andro with 4 andro. You will see the best gains and feel the best using these two together.

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

 

[Dboy111]

DHEA or 4-andro can act as a test base. 1-andro can cause lethargy, so running one of those is a good idea. Sides for 1-andro are lethargy, suppression (shutdown), hair loss, etc. Arimistane won't do much. I would always keep a legit AI on hand. Even if the cycle doesn't cause gyno you can always get gyno once you bounce back.

As for PCT I always run a SERM but andros are pretty mild, so I'd do something like clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5 or nolva 20/20/10/10. Plenty of guys run it higher but I believe that would suffice for this type of cycle.

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

 

[Dboy111]

Don't take 1 andro solo. Take it with dermacrine, 4 Andro, or use icon one which is basically 1 andro and dermacrine. Transdermal is better than pills in many ways.

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

Epiandro isn’t a good test base. 1-andros target is 1-testosterone which is a dht based steroid so dht like side effects are going to happen. And because of the suppressive nature, it doesn’t matter if it doesn’t convert to estrogen. Gyno can still be a side effect.

 

[Stacks1]

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

If you're concerned about hair loss then you need to skip the 1-andro. You have to start looking at the side effects and determine if the risk/reward profile works for you. From what I gather it sounds like it might not be worth the risk for you.

 

[Ironpirate]

Thanks so did some research. Can I use dermacrine as a test base for andro 1 instead of epi andro and andro 4 because of the DHT and Estrogen side effects such as hair loss and gyno which is what I’m really worried about.

Yes that is basically what I am using now. There's a product called icon one at strong supps. Just two bottles and a serm is the meat and potatoes of a simple cycle.

 

[djestradai1]

Yes that is basically what I am using now. There's a product called icon one at strong supps. Just two bottles and a serm is the meat and potatoes of a simple cycle.

Hey bro so how is the cycle going are you making gains? So just two bottle of the icon one and a serm for pct? What are you using? Do I need cycle support or something in case of estrogen side effects? What about a natural test booster after is that necessary? Do you have to stack it with andro 4 or is this this enough? I just DMed you and made a previous post about this

 

[johnny412]

Hey bro so how is the cycle going are you making gains? So just two bottle of the icon one and a serm for pct? What are you using? Do I need cycle support or something in case of estrogen side effects? What about a natural test booster after is that necessary? Do you have to stack it with andro 4 or is this this enough? I just DMed you and made a previous post about this

tf is wrong with you? he posted this yest. what do you mean how is the cycle going and are you making gains? HE HASNT STARTED IT YET! wow!

 

[djestradai1]

tf is wrong with you? he posted this yest. what do you mean how is the cycle going and are you making gains? HE HASNT STARTED IT YET! wow!

What?

 

[johnny412]

What?

what what? can you not read?

 

[Ironpirate]

tf is wrong with you? he posted this yest. what do you mean how is the cycle going and are you making gains? HE HASNT STARTED IT YET! wow!

I've done all I can here

 

[djestradai1]

what what? can you not read?

The **** you talking about dumbass? He never say he started it yesterday. Go troll somewhere else Johnny boy.

 

[djestradai1]

I've done all I can here

Did you say you started it yesterday? I didn’t see that. I don’t know what nosey Johnny boy is talking about. Check your DMs bro. Thanks for the advice.