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well... I personally wouldn't compare them in the traditional sense. one is more of a test booster hormonal optimizer, and the other one strait up ends in more DHT
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I'm new to this community.. as well as RPN Havoc.. and I will also be new to Apex Alchemy (very unfamiliar with tropicals/transdermals) I'd like to utizile this xmas deal.. so any recommendations on what to pair with Havoc from Apex Alchemy would be greatly appreciated and helpful? .. in regards to maybe a test booster (which apparently I need to stack with) I was planning on getting Androtest.. (unless Apex Alch has something sufficient) Also any on cycle and/or PCT.. again, that would pair well with Havoc. I have some ideas for both On cycles and PCTs.. but not from Apex Alchemy. I've been doing research trying to find info for my Havoc stack.. but this is the first time really starting to looking to Apex Alch products and I honestly dont' know those names... or for some, numbers as names .. thx in advance
 
i would run Hyperion and helios during. then about a week after your PCT starts you can switch to the foll0owing:

arimahex
epichaos
Triton/Ursa combo.

that should make you a man of steel!~
 
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I'm new to this community.. as well as RPN Havoc.. and I will also be new to Apex Alchemy (very unfamiliar with tropicals/transdermals) I'd like to utizile this xmas deal.. so any recommendations on what to pair with Havoc from Apex Alchemy would be greatly appreciated and helpful? .. in regards to maybe a test booster (which apparently I need to stack with) I was planning on getting Androtest.. (unless Apex Alch has something sufficient) Also any on cycle and/or PCT.. again, that would pair well with Havoc. I have some ideas for both On cycles and PCTs.. but not from Apex Alchemy. I've been doing research trying to find info for my Havoc stack.. but this is the first time really starting to looking to Apex Alch products and I honestly dont' know those names... or for some, numbers as names .. thx in advance
I would also add AET-50 throughout. Will only help with sleep, recovery, and stress relief
 
i would run Hyperion and helios during. then about a week after your PCT starts you can switch to the foll0owing:

arimahex
epichaos
Triton/Ursa combo.

that should make you a man of steel!~

thanks for the reply. But just to clarify.. you're suggesting Hyperion and Helios to run as my on cycle with havoc.. and then PCT with armahex, epichaos, triton and ursa... correct?

Also, would I be able to apply these on top of any other stack of On cycle or PCT if I hypothetically already had other on cycle and pct orals? Like would these topicals be okay to apply no matter what or would there be a potential chemical interactions that I would have to be careful of? (in which I would then have to do the research to find products that are compatible). .. because I'm thinking about at the very least, getting triton and ursa to run no matter what.

To kinda give background, incase any useful info:
I'm 6'0.. 190.. Id guess roughly about 14-16% BFI.. need to tone down the love handles that I've gained since my "gym retirement".. also more importantly is a minor double chin that needs to go. I've always had amazing results with muscle memory after about 3 weeks, bouncing back to my peak shape.. but this time around, and since I'm older (32.5) it's looking like I'm just adding muscle bulk and not so much of losing the double chin.. I've always been chiseled, so it's frustrating. Which is also one of my buying points for havoc this time around, to help with the dry gains. Been out the game since 2014.. have experience on PH pre ban. I also work 8-10 hours a day of very physical labor.

thank you again for the help
 
thanks for the reply. But just to clarify.. you're suggesting Hyperion and Helios to run as my on cycle with havoc.. and then PCT with armahex, epichaos, triton and ursa... correct?

Also, would I be able to apply these on top of any other stack of On cycle or PCT if I hypothetically already had other on cycle and pct orals? Like would these topicals be okay to apply no matter what or would there be a potential chemical interactions that I would have to be careful of? (in which I would then have to do the research to find products that are compatible). .. because I'm thinking about at the very least, getting triton and ursa to run no matter what.

To kinda give background, incase any useful info:
I'm 6'0.. 190.. Id guess roughly about 14-16% BFI.. need to tone down the love handles that I've gained since my "gym retirement".. also more importantly is a minor double chin that needs to go. I've always had amazing results with muscle memory after about 3 weeks, bouncing back to my peak shape.. but this time around, and since I'm older (32.5) it's looking like I'm just adding muscle bulk and not so much of losing the double chin.. I've always been chiseled, so it's frustrating. Which is also one of my buying points for havoc this time around, to help with the dry gains. Been out the game since 2014.. have experience on PH pre ban. I also work 8-10 hours a day of very physical labor.

thank you again for the help
well if we are going for a strait up cut, I would change my recommendations a little bit. I think you could run the ursa major and flashpoint combo during your cycle/cut.

flashpoint can be applied to stuborn areas like the love handles probably the chin too, ursa is epic for fatloss and muscle sparring.

after your cycle I would change the routine, and drop the flashpoint, replace with Triton.

I would need to know what you plan to take as far as other ancillaries to give you a better answer on potential interactions
 
Just here to stay, this is AN AWESOME SALE. Mix and match BOGO. Finally threw down for 2x Stanogen + 2x Epichoas.

Never really ran high quality epicatechin, let alone trandermal. I LoVe the EpiAndro via cyclosomal delivery orals (energy, strength - winny like effect) but this will be a change from the Iconic transdermal lotion Epiandro I've run before. I think I'm more into the Apex style topical tinctures (clear, no creams), not that I didn't enjoy IF goodies and they work too.

So thats' cool, already have a stock of Triton (this stuff is GREAT with Creatine HCL and a solid preworkout, or alone) and Ursa major I run together and morning preworkout when I need the extra boost.
 
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well if we are going for a strait up cut, I would change my recommendations a little bit. I think you could run the ursa major and flashpoint combo during your cycle/cut.

flashpoint can be applied to stuborn areas like the love handles probably the chin too, ursa is epic for fatloss and muscle sparring.

after your cycle I would change the routine, and drop the flashpoint, replace with Triton.

I would need to know what you plan to take as far as other ancillaries to give you a better answer on potential interactions

I planned on running Havoc + Androtest .. then Nolv for PCT. And I've read to also add in Tudca.
This stack is a compilation of the common suggestions that I've found, via many forums, to stack with Havoc.
Then I came across this website as I'm researching around for more info about how to stack for Havoc.. and came across this post.. so I reached out to ask if any of these topicals would be good to apply along with Havoc. (I failed to originally disclose the rest of the stack because for some reason I've always thought topicals could be applied no matter what.. but I decided to ask if that was the case, just incase, before I blindly start applying and potentially hurt myself).
My goal is to gain 8+ pounds of muscle (I've seen posts of 15+ gains, which I'm okay if that happens).. this is my 1st cycle since 2014.. but prob my 5th or 6th.. all with different variations of PH orals + Organ Shield + Milk Thistle + Aromastim + NAC .. (as a matter of fact, I have some Aromastim, NAC and Milk Thistle left that I bought about 3 years ago, if any of those are still useful lol).
 
I planned on running Havoc + Androtest .. then Nolv for PCT. And I've read to also add in Tudca.
This stack is a compilation of the common suggestions that I've found, via many forums, to stack with Havoc.
Then I came across this website as I'm researching around for more info about how to stack for Havoc.. and came across this post.. so I reached out to ask if any of these topicals would be good to apply along with Havoc. (I failed to originally disclose the rest of the stack because for some reason I've always thought topicals could be applied no matter what.. but I decided to ask if that was the case, just incase, before I blindly start applying and potentially hurt myself).
My goal is to gain 8+ pounds of muscle (I've seen posts of 15+ gains, which I'm okay if that happens).. this is my 1st cycle since 2014.. but prob my 5th or 6th.. all with different variations of PH orals + Organ Shield + Milk Thistle + Aromastim + NAC .. (as a matter of fact, I have some Aromastim, NAC and Milk Thistle left that I bought about 3 years ago, if any of those are still useful lol).
Hey Welcome! That's an interesting first stack back. Havoc = Epistane and Androtest = 4-DHEA. Nice. Yeah def add TUDCA + extra hydration (add taurine if epistane gives you painful pumps on the back, etc). For cycle support, the most advanced all-in-one is "Nutriissa Cycle Support", but I'm lazy and this covers more than just kidney/liver, but also heart, and cholesterol to a degree. You could probably buy few things and save a few $, but this stuff even helps with my stomach too. Then can take other vitamins K2/D2, phytosterols, Ubiquinol.. and other things in the arsenal to keep the cholesterol and heart stuff in check as much as possible.

Don't toss the organ shield, Milk Thistle, NAC etc - yeah get a few bottles of TUDCA, you can augment those to be close to the Nutriissa product noted above.

For Apex products, why not try the Triton (transdermal adenosine, think ATP and something to with Creatine)? Gives energy and pumps..
 
So Ive ran AET 50 + Ursa Major before with success during a lean out phase.
I still have about 1/2 bottle aet50 and 1 bottle of ursa. I also have 2 unused bottles of arimahex.

I plan on making a purchase during this sale, but not sure if I should try something different. I would crack open some arimahex, but I am wrapping up pct and would rather not mess with hormones immediately after coming off. Looking to try a good dry/lean stack. Im thinking ursa/trition? Maybe some aet50? What would y'all recommend for a nice lean stack?
 
Thank you everyone who replied, helping me out. I am def 100% buying off the Apex site..
I'm at the very least interested in the Fat burning ones - Ursa/Triton/Flashpoint .. need to find more info tho.
Is there any 1 forum or link or something that explains each of these topicals? (i.e This one is best for "blank" results/goals, Suggested dosages for "this" potential result, Best when applied to this part of the body, This one in the AM and this one in the PM, Don't mix this one with that one (which I think they're all safe together tho), etc.. something with this kind of info)
And how long is the xmas sale going for? Like when is the last day? (I can buy some now, but I can buy all next Friday payday)
thanks for being patient with me.
 
i always like to lower my cortisol a bit after pct. you literally couldn't go wrong with ursa/triton and a lil AET-50
 
Thank you everyone who replied, helping me out. I am def 100% buying off the Apex site..
I'm at the very least interested in the Fat burning ones - Ursa/Triton/Flashpoint .. need to find more info tho.
Is there any 1 forum or link or something that explains each of these topicals? (i.e This one is best for "blank" results/goals, Suggested dosages for "this" potential result, Best when applied to this part of the body, This one in the AM and this one in the PM, Don't mix this one with that one (which I think they're all safe together tho), etc.. something with this kind of info)
And how long is the xmas sale going for? Like when is the last day? (I can buy some now, but I can buy all next Friday payday)
thanks for being patient with me.

This sale is good through Monday 12/26/22 @ 11:59pm ET.

On the Apex-Alchemy website, go to the products page (Catalog).
Near each item, you will see symbols (pics) with explanations stating what positive effects each product is known for.

I'm also always available through PMs for any direct questions (if you like).
 
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Thank you everyone who replied, helping me out. I am def 100% buying off the Apex site..
I'm at the very least interested in the Fat burning ones - Ursa/Triton/Flashpoint .. need to find more info tho.
Is there any 1 forum or link or something that explains each of these topicals? (i.e This one is best for "blank" results/goals, Suggested dosages for "this" potential result, Best when applied to this part of the body, This one in the AM and this one in the PM, Don't mix this one with that one (which I think they're all safe together tho), etc.. something with this kind of info)
And how long is the xmas sale going for? Like when is the last day? (I can buy some now, but I can buy all next Friday payday)
thanks for being patient with me.


There is also a drop-down description for each product, under those pics:

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This sale is good through Monday 12/26/22 @ 11:59pm ET.

On the Apex-Alchemy website, go to the products page (Catalog).
Near each item, you will see symbols (pics) with explanations stating what positive effects each product is known for.

I'm also always available through PMs for any direct questions (if you like).

okay thank you.. I'll continue looking into all of this and I will reach out if I come across a question or 2 that I can't find the answers to.
 
Thanks for the input. Also, concerning flashpoint - would I possibly have to watch my stim intake? (Because of the theophylline)
we havent had any complaints on the issue that I'm aware of. there is a ton of people stacking flashpoint with anything else that will burn the fatz
 
Just here to stay, this is AN AWESOME SALE. Mix and match BOGO. Finally threw down for 2x Stanogen + 2x Epichoas.

Never really ran high quality epicatechin, let alone trandermal. I LoVe the EpiAndro via cyclosomal delivery orals (energy, strength - winny like effect) but this will be a change from the Iconic transdermal lotion Epiandro I've run before. I think I'm more into the Apex style topical tinctures (clear, no creams), not that I didn't enjoy IF goodies and they work too.

So thats' cool, already have a stock of Triton (this stuff is GREAT with Creatine HCL and a solid preworkout, or alone) and Ursa major I run together and morning preworkout when I need the extra boost.
Can you expand on the benefit you got from triton. do you use it onlt prewokout?
 
Can you expand on the benefit you got from triton. do you use it onlt prewokout?
Yeah sure. It's a quiet energy, not a caffeine buzz. Think of how Creatine HCl when combined with say Glycer 65 and good nootropic-stim based pre workouts gets you strength, energy, focus, and pump. This puts extra gas in the tank (like a healthier SR-9009, no experimental SARM.. just Adenosine part of the ATP and e- transport chain) you'll just notice hey I'm at rep 12... Maybe let's do 14-15 sorta thing.

Now if you are already tired and not fed enough, it's not a stim in a caffeine /Paraxanthine way, so it's not gonna buzz your brain you'll just notice a pleasant hey I can do more stuff feeling... If you are reasonably well fed and rested. I've had it do the reverse, it'll force me to power nap first lol.

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I don’t think anyone’s logged those two together. Are you thinking about logging or looking for more info on the combo?
Im looking to see what kind of results could be had from the combo, im considering getting a 60ml bottle of both just to see the outcome.
 
If 15 bottles dont do something, time to move on to something else i hope lol


I like to have a stash "just in case". I ran Ursa about 7-8 months straight recently and I went from a 34 inch waist- which I've had since college- down to a 32" waist and I didn't necessarily eat much better. I eat pretty good compared to most people anyway. I always have looked pretty good (16-17% bodyfat) but my upper abs are popping and now I'm working on getting my lower abs to come out and my love handles have definately shrunk. I've been a fan of Ursolic Acid since I first took it years ago with Ergopharms Pump Spray. Seems to make my veins pop out as well. I plan on getting my wife to use it as well and I will start another run with it when my current stack ends in about 5 weeks.
 
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