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RyanSwole

RyanSwole

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At my age, some men hang it up. I have a hot wife, 3 beautiful kids, building our dream house, and the future is bright. I’ve been on trt since I was 27 and dabbled back and forth in adding some Tren, or Trest, or even some Proviron. Well, here’s my dilemma. The wife and I have a business and ordering things like Proviron or Tren is out of the picture. It’s too risky with being in the public and getting pinched for such delivery. So I am prescribed 100mg cyp x2 a week. The last time I ran Trest was from Amino Asylum and it shut me down hard afterwards. I dropped my test to 20mg ED and Trest 20mg ED. Literally took ED injections for weeks. Felt good till I came off the Trest and bumped my Test back up to 200mg a week. I love experiencing and experimenting. Any suggestions or ideas what I could maybe experiment with next?
 
Hexadrone will be almost unnoticeable after using trestolone. Pretty much everything will be underwhelming after trestolone
 
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Look, I still have 2 vials of Trest on hand and I still have a small lump remaining under my right nip! I was told to lower my test while taking Trest so I went from 200mg a week to 140mg Test & Trest. I have some Arimidex on hand, but I do not think it is the right anti-e for Trest. Am I wrong?
 
RyanSwole said:
Look, I still have 2 vials of Trest on hand and I still have a small lump remaining under my right nip! I was told to lower my test while taking Trest so I went from 200mg a week to 140mg Test & Trest. I have some Arimidex on hand, but I do not think it is the right anti-e for Trest. Am I wrong?
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There isint a right or wrong anti estrogen for trest, they all work if it's dosed properly. But if you got prolactin gyno than a ai won't help. You need raloxefine at that point.

But if 20mg a day gave you gyno then trestolone is not for you. Trestolone is one of the strongest size promoting drugs in existence, that dosent mean more muscle then other drugs per say, but it's easier to put on weight with trest then almost anything else. It also has more potential for side effects then almost anything else and it has the highest gyno risk of any drug.

What are your actual goals.

Trest is notorious for side effects but if you can handle the sides then it in my opinion is best suited for a power lifter, water weight, size and strength.

If your goals are more physique based and quality muscle is the goal then your very limited with over the counter gear.

Msten is a good oral for this but there's only so much you can do with it because your limited to 4-6 weeks and you can't build a lot of muscle in a short time frame. So it's just more of a cosmetic fix for the tail end of a cycle.

Non toxic and very low toxicity options for the OTC route guy on trt.

Epi Andro 900-1200mg+ oral or 450-900+ transdermal.

1 Andro (not my favorite) 300-600mg+ oral or 150-300+ transdermal

Lgd 4033 20+mg oral or injectable

Rad 140 or 150 20+mg injectable

Sr9009 (kinda toxic tho) 20+mg oral or injectable

Peptides and carderine

You can still find dmz and msten, those are the most potent after trestolone but they also are the most side effects/health concerns. Should limit those 4-6 weeks
 
RyanSwole said:
At my age, some men hang it up. I have a hot wife, 3 beautiful kids, building our dream house, and the future is bright. I’ve been on trt since I was 27 and dabbled back and forth in adding some Tren, or Trest, or even some Proviron. Well, here’s my dilemma. The wife and I have a business and ordering things like Proviron or Tren is out of the picture. It’s too risky with being in the public and getting pinched for such delivery. So I am prescribed 100mg cyp x2 a week. The last time I ran Trest was from Amino Asylum and it shut me down hard afterwards. I dropped my test to 20mg ED and Trest 20mg ED. Literally took ED injections for weeks. Felt good till I came off the Trest and bumped my Test back up to 200mg a week. I love experiencing and experimenting. Any suggestions or ideas what I could maybe experiment with next?
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Am I missing something here? If you have been on TRT since 27 years of age, wouldn't you already be shutdown?
 
ironranger said:
Am I missing something here? If you have been on TRT since 27 years of age, wouldn't you already be shutdown?
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so my choice of words were not correct. I felt horrible when I transitioned off of the trest. Even though I continued on with the Test. I thought going from 140mg a week to 200mg a week, I would have smoother transition and I didn’t. Felt like $hit.
 
Smont said:
There isint a right or wrong anti estrogen for trest, they all work if it's dosed properly. But if you got prolactin gyno than a ai won't help. You need raloxefine at that point.

But if 20mg a day gave you gyno then trestolone is not for you. Trestolone is one of the strongest size promoting drugs in existence, that dosent mean more muscle then other drugs per say, but it's easier to put on weight with trest then almost anything else. It also has more potential for side effects then almost anything else and it has the highest gyno risk of any drug.

What are your actual goals.

Trest is notorious for side effects but if you can handle the sides then it in my opinion is best suited for a power lifter, water weight, size and strength.

If your goals are more physique based and quality muscle is the goal then your very limited with over the counter gear.

Msten is a good oral for this but there's only so much you can do with it because your limited to 4-6 weeks and you can't build a lot of muscle in a short time frame. So it's just more of a cosmetic fix for the tail end of a cycle.

Non toxic and very low toxicity options for the OTC route guy on trt.

Epi Andro 900-1200mg+ oral or 450-900+ transdermal.

1 Andro (not my favorite) 300-600mg+ oral or 150-300+ transdermal

Lgd 4033 20+mg oral or injectable

Rad 140 or 150 20+mg injectable

Sr9009 (kinda toxic tho) 20+mg oral or injectable

Peptides and carderine

You can still find dmz and msten, those are the most potent after trestolone but they also are the most side effects/health concerns. Should limit those 4-6 weeks
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@RyanSwole
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That’s your best route any of those options anything beyond that is actual gear or back the trest.

Personally oral or inject trest was a beast for me and one I won’t run again. Along with tren.

I’m TRT as well and have been for many years. Some of my favorite cycles are low dose test, RAD140, deca, npp, MK-677, any GHRP and most peptides for that matter, GH (not at once just a list)

Any orals as stated need to be limited on when your length of time taking them. Also if your going oral route get TUDCA and/or inject glutathione.

Epiandro is nice as well on a trt dose with some LGD that was a good cycle as well for me
 
Burnfire said:
@RyanSwole
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That’s your best route any of those options anything beyond that is actual gear or back the trest.

Personally oral or inject trest was a beast for me and one I won’t run again. Along with tren.

I’m TRT as well and have been for many years. Some of my favorite cycles are low dose test, RAD140, deca, npp, MK-677, any GHRP and most peptides for that matter, GH (not at once just a list)

Any orals as stated need to be limited on when your length of time taking them. Also if your going oral route get TUDCA and/or inject glutathione.

Epiandro is nice as well on a trt dose with some LGD that was a good cycle as well for me
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Trt or slightly above, like 150-400mg, 2-3 units of GH and some occasional extras will go a long way.

I've actually had times I dropped to my trt dose of test and added in injectable lgd 4033 @20-30mg and carderine 10mg and made fantastic progress.

I'm actually gonna try something similar after the new year but with 60-80mg of lgd per day.

Before anyone has a meltdown over that dose, no1 see s to have a problem running 50-100mg of anadrol or various other orals, no1 worried about tren or trest, but they hear 50mg of a sarm and freak out lol.

If I could never purchase anything illegal again for gear I can do just fine with test, sarms and peptides. Am I gonna win a bodybuilding show on that? Probably not. But I can still be better then 90% of the gym and 99% of the general population on it
 
Iconic formulations makes a 450mg/ml transdermal epiandro which is a good bang dose.

Apex alchemy has a lower concentration but with the price and there frequent BOGO sales it's a great value

And I always forget to plug myself lol, but we got the sarms and peptides as well as your tadalifil and other goodies like ai and seems as well over at maresearchchems

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Smont said:
Trt or slightly above, like 150-400mg, 2-3 units of GH and some occasional extras will go a long way.

I've actually had times I dropped to my trt dose of test and added in injectable lgd 4033 @20-30mg and carderine 10mg and made fantastic progress.

I'm actually gonna try something similar after the new year but with 60-80mg of lgd per day.

Before anyone has a meltdown over that dose, no1 see s to have a problem running 50-100mg of anadrol or various other orals, no1 worried about tren or trest, but they hear 50mg of a sarm and freak out lol.

If I could never purchase anything illegal again for gear I can do just fine with test, sarms and peptides. Am I gonna win a bodybuilding show on that? Probably not. But I can still be better then 90% of the gym and 99% of the general population on it
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Absofuckinglutely!!! I’m about to turn 45 next month. I’m just trying to remain a hot husband with a younger wife! I’ll say this, Cialis and Trest with a little Test is a hell of a combo!
 
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