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Transdermal 3-AD to rival epiandro?

SSJ4GOD

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Can’t find raws at all but….

seeing as though 3-AD is pretty androgenic, I would think this would be an awesome transdermal to rival even perhaps epiandro. @nostrum420 @dsade thoughts?
also I was thinking if used in a localized carrier with a formidable anti estrogen, and perhaps a fat burner of some kind, it could be effective for mild gyno considering DHT has treated gyno for people in the past.

anyways, I really need some 3-AD powder so I can drop it in some salvo and try it out.

also by 3-AD I am speaking about Dehydroandrosterol
 
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I think there is some story behind it's no longer being offered but I could be wrong, it did happen once in 1997 so their is precedent.
 
BCseacow83 said:
I think there is some story behind it's no longer being offered but I could be wrong, it did happen once in 1997 so their is precedent.
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It’s in some evomuse products and in some capsules I have found online (but mixed with fillers so not good for salvo)
 
I don't know what the current situation with Iconic's 3-AD project is, raws might be hard to find. @delsolrob ?

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stay tuned - I'm actually working on this over the weekend...

I'll do a beta batch in the gel carrier and announce shortly.
 
SSJ4GOD said:
Can I preorder @delsolrob?

also any powder you are willing to part with? I got some salvo lol
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IIRC, we didn't move forward with salvo because we couldn't get enough active stable in the carrier to offer an effective dose...would have required more than one bottle for a months supply. the gel carrier would be more stable for higher doses.
 
delsolrob said:
IIRC, we didn't move forward with salvo because we couldn't get enough active stable in the carrier to offer an effective dose...would have required more than one bottle for a months supply. the gel carrier would be more stable for higher doses.
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Oh makes sense. Did you see what I put above about a possible gyno treatment using 3-AD and some other stuff in a localized carrier to be applied directly to the chest? I think it would be a hot seller
 
Salvo has a better localized delivery mechanism than the gel carrier. we could make a lower dosed (thinking 20mg-30mg/ml)...50mg was too much and it started crashing after just a week or two.

I'll follow up with the details on the gel version as soon as possible.

for sake of, the raws are in extremely limited supply and I think I only have enough to make less than 100 bottles...supplier does not have more raws at this time.
 
delsolrob said:
Salvo has a better localized delivery mechanism than the gel carrier. we could make a lower dosed (thinking 20mg-30mg/ml)...50mg was too much and it started crashing after just a week or two.

I'll follow up with the details on the gel version as soon as possible.

for sake of, the raws are in extremely limited supply and I think I only have enough to make less than 100 bottles...supplier does not have more raws at this time.
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Yeah I scoured for it myself because I was going to toss some in salvo with arimistane and an undecided topical fat burner and test it out in some puffy nips
 
SSJ4GOD said:
Yeah I scoured for it myself because I was going to toss some in salvo with arimistane and an undecided topical fat burner and test it out in some puffy nips
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If you could find Andactrim gel, that could work. There's also TD Tamox. Have you tried Ralox?
 
KvanH said:
If you could find Andactrim gel, that could work. There's also TD Tamox. Have you tried Ralox?
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Yeah I wanted to try and make a “supplement” version of a gyno treatment though not a medical product persay
 
What is 3ad a prohormone to? Or what is it on its own if not a ph?

Only stuff I found was that it's a adrenal hormone, is that correct?
 
Smont said:
What is 3ad a prohormone to? Or what is it on its own if not a ph?

Only stuff I found was that it's a adrenal hormone, is that correct?
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Honestly not sure…I just read it’s very androgenic which would seem to me, a great thing in the way epiandro is great. But, I saw numbers somewhere that seem to imply it’s stronger than epiandro
 
I have 3 unopened bottles of 3-AD that I am trying to figure out how to run- I'm thinking an epic run of epiandro & 3-AD is in order along with Urolithin B and Epichaos!!
 
SSJ4GOD said:
Honestly not sure…I just read it’s very androgenic which would seem to me, a great thing in the way epiandro is great. But, I saw numbers somewhere that seem to imply it’s stronger than epiandro
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Ripper seemed pretty familiar with this stuff. I’m pretty sure he told me once that he doesn’t think it converts to DHT. I’m not totally sure on mechanisms, but from what I’ve heard, it seems to be able to enhance the effects of other androgens. Otherwise, it seems to give energy, strength, and libido effects, which sounds like epi andro. Pretty sure @Hyde has run some, he may know more too.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
Ripper seemed pretty familiar with this stuff. I’m pretty sure he told me once that he doesn’t think it converts to DHT. I’m not totally sure on mechanisms, but from what I’ve heard, it seems to be able to enhance the effects of other androgens. Otherwise, it seems to give energy, strength, and libido effects, which sounds like epi andro. Pretty sure @Hyde has run some, he may know more too.
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Page 761 in the Textbook of Organic Medicinal and Pharmaceutical Chemistry, 7th Ed. explains that 3-AD possesses approximately 293% the activity of Androsterone, and roughly 44% and 80% the potency of Testosterone and Methyltestosterone respectively!
 
Jeremyk1 said:
Ripper seemed pretty familiar with this stuff. I’m pretty sure he told me once that he doesn’t think it converts to DHT. I’m not totally sure on mechanisms, but from what I’ve heard, it seems to be able to enhance the effects of other androgens. Otherwise, it seems to give energy, strength, and libido effects, which sounds like epi andro. Pretty sure @Hyde has run some, he may know more too.
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correct it behaves like DHT but is not and does not convert to DHT
SSJ4GOD said:
Page 761 in the Textbook of Organic Medicinal and Pharmaceutical Chemistry, 7th Ed. explains that 3-AD possesses approximately 293% the activity of Androsterone, and roughly 44% and 80% the potency of Testosterone and Methyltestosterone respectively!
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well... in the real world its nothing as amazing as all that sounds~
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
correct it behaves like DHT but is not and does not convert to DHT

well... in the real world its nothing as amazing as all that sounds~
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Wonder if dose or delivery have anything to do with that? I’m interested in mainly local effects on breast tissue to be honest lol
 
i personally ran it really high and didnt really find much in the way of anti e effects. I think you would be better suited with winstrol or stano type PHs
 
https://iconicformulations.com/products/ultra-three-beta

beta batch looks good. 2 pumps per application for 75mg 3-AD per application.

These are priced as beta products - our standard coupon codes will work. small quantity will be available for these, will want feedback on these :)
 
I ate 75-125mg orally in a stack, 100mg was what I liked most. It didn’t noticeably lower estrogen, but like clockwork it would bring on libido, energy, some aggression. Main side was acne, and everyone I’ve talked to on here noticed that with it so it’s a common side.

Feels like a blend of Proviron & Epiandrosterone, if I had to compare it to anything.

It also seemed to help me hold a couple extra lbs of glycogen; muscles always looked a bit fuller when on it.
 
Hyde said:
I ate 75-125mg orally in a stack, 100mg was what I liked most. It didn’t noticeably lower estrogen, but like clockwork it would bring on libido, energy, some aggression. Main side was acne, and everyone I’ve talked to on here noticed that with it so it’s a common side.

Feels like a blend of Proviron & Epiandrosterone, if I had to compare it to anything.

It also seemed to help me hold a couple extra lbs of glycogen; muscles always looked a bit fuller when on it.
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Excited to see what TD will do then. Icon put 75mgs a ml in the TD so it should beat what you experienced orally
 
SSJ4GOD said:
Excited to see what TD will do then. Icon put 75mgs a ml in the TD so it should beat what you experienced orally
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That was my immediate thought. That should be an ideal serving for most people. It didn’t seem to do more when I went to 125mg so I don’t think it’s something that will pay out to wildly overdose; it’s best as an adjunct to a stronger cycle (like Proviron or Epiandro).
 
Hyde said:
I ate 75-125mg orally in a stack, 100mg was what I liked most. It didn’t noticeably lower estrogen, but like clockwork it would bring on libido, energy, some aggression. Main side was acne, and everyone I’ve talked to on here noticed that with it so it’s a common side.

Feels like a blend of Proviron & Epiandrosterone, if I had to compare it to anything.

It also seemed to help me hold a couple extra lbs of glycogen; muscles always looked a bit fuller when on it.
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I'm going to stack the topical with oral.
 
get these! talked to the supplier today and there are no more raws anytime soon.

I'm not sure if we will invest in commercial labels for such a limited run.
 
Tunaking14 said:
About how many are left?
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I haven't promoted it in anyway besides this thread...I think I still have enough material to make 85 units. my initial beta batch was just 20 units. most of the 20 have sold.
 
Glad more could be made. I'll get a couple bottles later today if they are still available. I really enjoyed it as an oral. Thanks for putting this together.
 
Sstoooked, just ordered two bottles. Going to start in two weeks along with Alpha Four, ac 262 and ostarine. Super glad I had this inkling to check out the Iconic Formulations website this week and cought this. It sparked my interest when the guy was talking about it in March. I have never tried 3 AD but it sounds exciting.
 
mikeymike85 said:
How does this compare to 11-KT?
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Not so dry, more fullness, increase in energy & libido, isn’t going to lower cortisol the way 11Kt would.

11KT would still be the better option for dieting specifically, while 3AD is probably more universal in application scenarios.
 
I actually used 11Kt earlier in the cycle when cutting, and then as I slowly added calories in later I used 3AD on the back half of the cycle.
 
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