Silverback 1966
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Looking for a natural test boosting supplement or stack that is equal to or more powerful than TRT. Natural supplements only as TRT/roids/PH/SARMS are all out of the questions. Suggestions please?
What natural test booster or stack exceeds TRT?
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By more powerful do you mean for restoring someone who is on the low range of T back to the mid range? Or do you mean something that can bring someone's natural range above the mid range to supraphysiological numbers (as in, someone taking more testosterone than proper "TRT", but calling it TRT)?
Silverback 1966
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Either/or. Supraphysiological would be great but will settle for mid range.
match
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You won't get to supraphysiological with natty test boosters.
And do you even know if your testosterone levels are low?
I'm sure some folks will chime in with some natty test booster supplements for you, but do yourself a favor and focus on diet, training and getting proper sleep. You'll get way more out of dialing those in than you will from anything else in the natty realm.
Wobmarvel
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Nothing natural will do this. And if it did doctor's would not prescribe TRT (at least in the UK) and risk messing with estrogen, prostate, blood pressure etc. (In the US they would prescribe TRT even if you didn't need it cos it's all about making money for most,they would find something you "need").
If you think about it, as ball park figures if standard test levels were 500 and you were low at say 150. A natty test booster may boost your levels by maybe 30%. sounds good initially but your looking at a boosted test level of 195. Could still make a difference for how you feel etc but not the same as TRT.
Some people are now saying that certain boosters like tongkat Ali, fenugreek and ashwaghanda can boost your natural test by 100 points or so but this is still a percentage. So if your natural test was closer to 400 your now looking at a 30% increase being a total of 520. Which is decent but then it was decent to start off with.
Kind of plucking numbers out my ass here but you see what I mean. Natty boosters will "boost" what your already producing and the results will be different for everyone based on how their body functions. If your test is really tanked and at 50. Your boosted test may be 65.
If you get TRT and receive 150mg test per week you are getting that definite increase regardless of starting levels. Also wouldnt give you super physiological results though.
If you think about it, as ball park figures if standard test levels were 500 and you were low at say 150. A natty test booster may boost your levels by maybe 30%. sounds good initially but your looking at a boosted test level of 195. Could still make a difference for how you feel etc but not the same as TRT.
Some people are now saying that certain boosters like tongkat Ali, fenugreek and ashwaghanda can boost your natural test by 100 points or so but this is still a percentage. So if your natural test was closer to 400 your now looking at a 30% increase being a total of 520. Which is decent but then it was decent to start off with.
Kind of plucking numbers out my ass here but you see what I mean. Natty boosters will "boost" what your already producing and the results will be different for everyone based on how their body functions. If your test is really tanked and at 50. Your boosted test may be 65.
If you get TRT and receive 150mg test per week you are getting that definite increase regardless of starting levels. Also wouldnt give you super physiological results though.
klbsa
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If there was such a thing then big pharma would have a patent on it.
Smont
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There's no such thing in existence, nothing natural will even be 20% the strength of anabolics and even 20% is a stretch
Smont
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Also, I'm calling it now, there's a 86.7% chance this is jackeddad under a third profile.
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There's no way that there are this many delusional people on the forum who think you can get steroid results from natty supplements and have a hard on for the AX and Diesel.
No way in hell
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There's no way that there are this many delusional people on the forum who think you can get steroid results from natty supplements and have a hard on for the AX and Diesel.
No way in hell
Smont
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Cough cough, trolls
Jeremyk1
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Yeah, assuming this is a genuine question, this should be the question. No idea what he’s even looking to get out of this.
Silverback 1966
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Hey I'm just trying to find out which product provides the highest test boost. If you're so disbelieving in supplements then why even be here?
botk1161
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So what is it your looking for and do you automatically assume a test booster or TRT would give you that? I am 55 and started TRT 2 years ago. Although my levels are now in range, it did absolutely nothing to make me stronger and may have helped my recovery 10% if that. I now supplement (cycle) TRT with higher doses of test in order to get a little bit of strength and a little bit of recovery.
Its my experience of over 40 years of using lots of diferent natural supplements that you can allot more of what your looking for from non test boosters. So what are you looking for? The best test booster? Well, there are literally 100's of threads on this subject on this forum. Did you think to use the search function? Your gonna get the same responses in each thread pointing you to known good comprehensive products like M-Test or single products like tongat etc.. I assume your 56 years old? imo, you will get allot more out of your workouts, life and recovery with your "supplement money" spent on non test boosters like BMP, Myosyergy, Folidrone, Vector, Anabolic Effect and a bunch others. However, I would try a can of M-test to see if it gives you some of what you think your looking for or you think TRT would do for you. Again, if you don't tell us anything about your self or what you want to acheive, you won't get much info will you?
aaronuconn
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Individuals are going to respond to products differently. As an example, let’s say I’m super stressed, getting mediocre sleep, etc. Maybe an ashwagandha product will provide myself profound results, while it’s minimal for you.
And to reiterate what others have said, “profound” will still not be even close to TRT if that is something you medically need.
So if I was trying to find this answer for myself, I’d probably consider:
1. Day 0 get baseline test, free test, and E2 numbers
2. Day 1 take a test booster for ~8 weeks
3. Day ~60 re-test to find your updated numbers
4. Day ~61-90 take a break from test boosters
5. Day 91 repeat steps 2 and 3 with a different test booster
Smont
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I'm pro supplements, so let's say your not the guy that keeps making new accounts pretending that natural guys can achieve steroid user results.
There is no testosterone booster in existence that will meet the requirements your looking for. Natural testosterone boosters can not replicate trt or anabolics, not even slightly.
They can slightly raise your testosterone, possibly balance out your T to E ratios, give you some extra energy and a libido boost.
But they are not anabolic steroids, they don't do much for muscle growth and if medically you need trt and your in your 50's (which I'm assuming by your username silverback1966) then a test booster or combination of test boosters will not replace trt.
Nothing will
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SSJ4GOD
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I remember I had the cell tech with gakic and leukic lol part of the jay culter stackGood troll thread
This was my very first supplement
Hyde
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I wanted to look like Jay too. He got that brand so many sales.
SSJ4GOD
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Very true. They also had the best marketing at the time. With university studies and everything right on the label. I still like their protein to be honest
Jeremyk1
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Good troll thread
This was my very first supplement
My first was the knockoff 6 star or whatever that they sell at Walmart. Still under Iovate I’m pretty sure, but cheaper.
Foxx13
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I legit remember seeing a guy take Gakic at the gym and truly believing back then that’s why he was a strength beast haha. Like if I could only afford Gakic I too would be as strong as him. It wasn’t the 10+ years of training he had on me, it was his supplements. Oh how naive I was back then. Truth be told I can still get mind fucked once and a while into thinking a certain supplement will make a bigger impact than what it really will. Live and learn.
aaronuconn
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Lol same. Wish I could get those same gainz nowadays...This was my very first supplement
Granted my first supplement coincided with my first time weight lifting + access to a college cafeteria… but we both know all the gains were from the cell tech
KvanH
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I thought this immediately.
Smont
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I still occasionally buy 6 star cookies and cream protein powder when it's under $25 lol.
I use it to make ice creams and puddings
SSJ4GOD
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It’s not bad stuff honestly if you need affordability. I take the nitric oxide pills every now and then if I get a good deal.I still occasionally buy 6 star cookies and cream protein powder when it's under $25 lol.
I use it to make ice creams and puddings
Smont
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I use to do that. Now I just let my hematocrit get out of control high and the pumps are killer as long as I don't stroke out or have a heart attack
j/kPlease no1 take that seriously and try to intentionally do that lol
SSJ4GOD
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I take my grapefruit extract, nitric oxide, and baby aspirin every day for that **** lolI use to do that. Now I just let my hematocrit get out of control high and the pumps are killer as long as I don't stroke out or have a heart attack
Please no1 take that seriously and try to intentionally do that lol
. Baby aspirin probably does majority of the work
Smont
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5-7.5mg of daily cailis will give you really good pumps too. It's also heart friendly and has a bunch of other benifits.I take my grapefruit extract, nitric oxide, and baby aspirin every day for that **** lol
Honestly, idk when everyone over 40 wouldn't want to use a little testosterone, low dose tadalifil and some telmasartan. You can literally turn the clock back 15-20 years on a 45-60 year old man with those 3 things.
SSJ4GOD
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Yeah I take cialis every now and then but I got the Swiss 20mg caps so daily dosing gets a bit much lol honestly with how society is going everyone should be taking these things…you know people at 20 are stroking out now and test levels are dropping like a rock trying to swim
Smont
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I get the research liquid from Mike so it's easy for me to micro dose, I use to get the 20mg pill, cut them in half and take 10 mg every other day.
It's weird I don't get the bedroom effects from it, doesn't matter if I take 5 mg or 30 mg. At the same time I don't have any issue with that so maybe that's why it doesn't do anything for me?
But whether I take five or 30 I get better pumps and slightly lowered blood pressure so I take it for the health benefits at 5 mg a day in a bottle last me like 4 months lol
SSJ4GOD
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And dat der cell tech hardcore gave me teh gynoz!
Hyde
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It’s crazy how much faith we put in shiny labels, and how little we realized simply over feeding on pasta (or anything) is what produces truly massive gains.
Silverback 1966
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I'm willing to go as far as DHEA and pregnenolone. In my mind these are natural substances.
Silverback 1966
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No clomid. It's got to be natural.
KvanH
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Update us on your results, will ya. I'm curious.
delsolrob
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Sustain alpha is another great option - sustain alpha has been a fan favorite for over a decade for a reason...it works
note: these work great - however, not viable replacement for TRT
Sustain alpha is another great option - sustain alpha has been a fan favorite for over a decade for a reason...it works
note: these work great - however, not viable replacement for TRT
LeanEngineer
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Shiny object, ohhh ahhh! I think I'm gulity of this in the past but not so much anymore as I know what's quality and what's not.
Jeremyk1
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So what’s the distinguishing feature that makes DHEA natural and testosterone not?
ironkill
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Yes? Not sure what this tag is about?