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Anything on the market that would ramp up my libido?

rowz4broz said:
M Test + Sustain Alpha is literally working wonders for me right now. Stressors from work are at all time highs and these two stacked together are great.

2 pumps SA Morning
2 Pumps SA before bed
6 caps Mtest before bed
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forgot about the L. Reuteri but that is also a part of my stack
 
Jeeeeeez! So many choices lol

I thought I would update this as I seem to have had some success.

I've added in HCG 250iu twice per week (I did front load with 500iu just to get the boys moving). This has worked VERY well.

I've also added in.. SNS Inhibit P. Man this supplement is very simple but very effective.

I believe this paired combo have awesome synergy.

Lower prolactin and raise all my cascading hormones (Dhea ' Pregnenolone etc). This has got my overall mood feeling MUCH better and also I've felt the libido urge has definitely increased. It's still nothing as near as pre trt.

I don't think many people know that TRT is fantastic to begin with but after a prolonged period your body really does down regulate a lot of the hormones and this effects your mood and libido.

Testosterone raises dopamine and ocer time I believe the dopamine receptors start to down regulate with the increase (Homeostasis). This in turn hits your overall wellbeing and mood. Also with DHEA + Pregnenolone being lowered this then also effects libido and also some other aspects like anxiety etc. With lower Pregnenolone levels we in turn have lower allopregnenolone levels which then effects the gaba signalling.

I once gave finasteride (Propecia) a test as I'm prone to hair loss and never knew this almost blocks all of the Pregnenolone converting to allopregnenolone which in turns makes people more anxious on finasteride.

So complicated!

I will still have a look at all these other supps as I would enjoy my libido to be like my 20's again. I still feel I can push it even more than the increase I have just now. I hope this HCG + Inhibit P can keep working as my overall mood has vastly increased. Loving it :D

Thanks guys!
 
Dblock said:
The herbal stuff OP listed would get blown away by Stanogen. Stanogen aside from proviron is the best libido booster I have ever used….
1. Proviron

2. Stanogen

3. oral Epiandrosterone
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I did try Proviron and still have some their. I genuinely never felt the libido increase from it? I even tried dosing it at 100mg and apart from the drying out look I never felt my mood or libido being raised.

Does it effect people differently?
 
Oliver Kween said:
That's why CIALIS and TADALFIL are just like car jack. You also have to want to drive.

The addition of GABA or phenibut can participate in inking a certain desire.
Then you also have to have something that makes you hungry...
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I use Cialis daily (5mg). Love Cialis :D

I have used Phenibut before and made the mistake of running it for a couple weeks straight and man those withdrawals are scary! Felt dreadful for a couple weeks. I have 500mg caps their that I sometimes use sparingly. Like if I'm having a night out with no alcohol I would use Phenibut. Though I never noticed an increase in libido. It gave me a milf mood boost and less anxiety etc. It's a supplement that should be used VERY sparingly.

I have a friend who's addicted to Phenibut. He tried to quit (2g a day) and he almost ended up in hospital. He now has to use it daily just too function. I would class Phenibut more as a drug than a supplement.
 
bell1986 said:
I use Cialis daily (5mg). Love Cialis :D

I have used Phenibut before and made the mistake of running it for a couple weeks straight and man those withdrawals are scary! Felt dreadful for a couple weeks. I have 500mg caps their that I sometimes use sparingly. Like if I'm having a night out with no alcohol I would use Phenibut. Though I never noticed an increase in libido. It gave me a milf mood boost and less anxiety etc. It's a supplement that should be used VERY sparingly.

I have a friend who's addicted to Phenibut. He tried to quit (2g a day) and he almost ended up in hospital. He now has to use it daily just too function. I would class Phenibut more as a drug than a supplement.
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Oh God!

OK, i see.

I think, they are 3 type of pheninut.

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The one I used was from Somatomax. Surprisingly it gave me Libido boosts... After a sleep lol


I think too there's uh Pheni that makes you more dependent than the others.
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My phenibut it was SOMATOMAX
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A friend of mine had used Pheni strong version with sarms (RAD 140), he did not start again.



But I agree with you.

It should be used with caution
 
Oliver Kween said:
Oh God!

OK, i see.

I think, they are 3 type of pheninut.

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The one I used was from Somatomax. Surprisingly it gave me Libido boosts... After a sleep lol


I think too there's uh Pheni that makes you more dependent than the others.
l

My phenibut it was SOMATOMAX
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A friend of mine had used Pheni strong version with sarms (RAD 140), he did not start again.



But I agree with you.

It should be used with caution
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Have to admit. That supplement must a good mood boost? Looks a wicked ingredient panel.

What's the effects like?
 
bell1986 said:
Have to admit. That supplement must a good mood boost? Looks a wicked ingredient panel.

What's the effects like?
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For my part,

I took it 20 minutes before going to bed.

He made me sleep like it was natural. Then I could sleep without waking up 2-3 times. (Not a prosrate problem. I studied my circadian clock and it was more stress, work etc...). So I could sleep straight through and especially wake up later than usual. This only during the week'n, which means that I took a scoop, only on Friday evening and Saturday evening.

Instead of waking up at 5:30 am I got up at 8:30 or sometimes 9:00; With a desire to extend a little. But also with this feeling of having slept well, a bit like a 17-year-old teenager. 1 hour after getting out of bed, with coffee, no latent or side effects.
I have already stacked with melatonin and everything was going well.

Only during a vacation period I used it for 1 week. And same thing. No addiction nothing.

1 Scoop was enough for me.

I think that I am alone ative of this way of taking it and cannot advise others the same operating mode

For the libido part...

Let's say that after taking it, and if I resist the drowsiness it induces. I feel hardening effects. I suppose it's the gaba and the relaxative function that acts.

So once I tested; this one (my phenibut), with Stanogen and Hyperion + ZMA....

It was very interesting :D

Today I no longer take it, I have not ordered any more. I just take melatonin with ZMB Pidolates and Astaxanthin Astareal and Choline L-Bitartrate. That's enough.

About my friend.

He didn't tell me which version he took but not the most basic. With RAD it felt like a PC not wanting to reboot. Lethragy in the gym, No lobido (yet with RAD140). And no longer in a good mood... And him too, he almost remained addicted. It took 1 month to come out.
 
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Dblock said:
The herbal stuff OP listed would get blown away by Stanogen. Stanogen aside from proviron is the best libido booster I have ever used….
1. Proviron

2. Stanogen

3. oral Epiandrosterone
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I assume Stanogen isn't safe for your hairline?
 
bell1986 said:
Hey folks.

What's on the market that could ramp up my libido?

Over the last few years my libido has seriously tanked I'm on trt and apart from high test levels I don't get the libido effects.

I've tried a few things and can't seem to find my old sex drive.

I've tried the usual...

Tongkat
Maca
Mucuna Puriens
Tyrosine
Zinc
Horny goat weed

Etc

The more pharmaceutical ones are

Cialis (Works wonders for the blood flow aspect but doesn't impact libido)
Bupropion (Dopamine reuprake inhibitor)
Modafinil (Works at the start and after a few days I feel horrid)

I also have cabergoline their but I'm afraid to use it somehow. I might do a very small dose and see how it works.

I've also tried nasal oxytocin (No effect)

Is their anything else? Sort of at my wits end

Any ideas would be great

Thanks
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Have you tried BBC videos yet? You may have developed mid life latent homosexuality and haven't realized it yet. :)
 
lots of information in this thread.

Dermacrine has been a tried and true product for over a decade because it works! it works well enough that some TRT clinics recommend it to their clients to pair with their TRT.

Neuro AET by Iconic Formulations - for many, this was the best libido booster they've ever used...because nothing kills libido as easily as stress.

Ultra Hard by Iconic Formulations - if you wanted to give this a try with your TRT, I would recommend starting with 2 pumps and going from there. The combination of Epiandrosterone and Androsterone creates a well balanced alpha feeling and does amazing things for libido. If you have any libido issues caused by finasteride/propecia, ultra hard is amazing!

@thebigt loved Sustain Alpha for it's libido boosting effects - it works wonders! I would still recommend dermacrine over SA because of the DHEA and Pregnenolone...and this

Lastly, Ultra Epi by Iconic Formulations is probably the most effective Epiandro product available - offering 450mg epiandrosterone per application in our gel carrier. 450mg td is no joke!
 
what about Aet long term??

Ive looked up Aet and it appears as its a metabolite of dhea, so a prohormone…

Even Innovapharm has this ingredient and it says on theor page no pct required or no time off…

am I missing something?
 
StrongNaturalSupps said:
what about Aet long term??

Ive looked up Aet and it appears as its a metabolite of dhea, so a prohormone…

Even Innovapharm has this ingredient and it says on theor page no pct required or no time off…

am I missing something?
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Not all DHEA metabolites are prohormones. There are a few prohormones that also happen to be DHEA metabolites which creates a legal argument for their legality.

7-oxygenated and/or 7-hydroxy DHEA derivatives cannot metabolize into sex hormones and are therefore unable to suppress the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal signaling cycle.
 
nostrum420 said:
Not all DHEA metabolites are prohormones. There are a few prohormones that also happen to be DHEA metabolites which creates a legal argument for their legality.

7-oxygenated and/or 7-hydroxy DHEA derivatives cannot metabolize into sex hormones and are therefore unable to suppress the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal signaling cycle.
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Interesting, so you could take it in high quantity for a long time, come off of it and it wouldnt supress you in any way??

Thinking about trying Apex Alchemy Aet-50 then …

what other supps have dhea metabolites that work well?

Just bought $1’000 of the best supps from sns, Apex Alchemy, BMP, Vital Alchemy… giving everything that wont supress test a try!
 
StrongNaturalSupps said:
Interesting, so you could take it in high quantity for a long time, come off of it and it wouldnt supress you in any way??

Thinking about trying Apex Alchemy Aet-50 then …

what other supps have dhea metabolites that work well?

Just bought $1’000 of the best supps from sns, Apex Alchemy, BMP, Vital Alchemy… giving everything that wont supress test a try!
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Solid choices.

7-OXO-DHEA and 7-OH-DHEA are the only other non-suppresive DHEA metabolites I can think of on a Saturday night but they're basically weaker versions of b-AET, IMO.

For natty/non-suppressive gains, from the Apex Alchemy line up, I'd suggest Epichaos and/or Triton. For leaning out, Ursa Major and/or Flashpoint AF.
 
StrongNaturalSupps said:
Interesting, so you could take it in high quantity for a long time, come off of it and it wouldnt supress you in any way??
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AET-50 (bAET) won't suppress you (as @nostrum420 already stated), but personally I wouldn't recommend mega-dosing it, as it could possibly drive down your Cortisol to an undesirable level.
 
Renew1 said:
AET-50 (bAET) won't suppress you (as @nostrum420 already stated), but personally I wouldn't recommend mega-dosing it, as it could possibly drive down your Cortisol to an undesirable level.
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+1
Definitely had a dose response curve, played around with a lot of doses and dosing times. The suggested dose and even a little less worked well for me but more than the recommended didn’t seem to be as beneficial.
 
New guy said:
+1
Definitely had a dose response curve, played around with a lot of doses and dosing times. The suggested dose and even a little less worked well for me but more than the recommended didn’t seem to be as beneficial.
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Yeah, it depends upon the individual, and the individual circumstances.
 
rowz4broz said:
M Test + Sustain Alpha is literally working wonders for me right now. Stressors from work are at all time highs and these two stacked together are great.

2 pumps SA Morning
2 Pumps SA before bed
6 caps Mtest before bed
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Im running sustain alpha transdermal, endo amp, and toco 8 ..............been noticing a big increase in libido past few days.
 
EvanMan said:
Im running sustain alpha transdermal, endo amp, and toco 8 ..............been noticing a big increase in libido past few days.
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Testosterone recovery stack is legit!
 
Hey folks. Little update.

It seems that the SNS Inhibit P isn't agreeing with me now? Each time I take it I keep getting this all over body chills and night sweats. It was working great the first week aswell!

The HCG seems to be working pretty good though. I have also added in 25mg DHEA AND 25mg Pregnenolone. I noticed a nice little bump from these also.

I have noticed that I need to dose 6.25mg aromasin on the days I pin Test + HCG. I get very sensitive nipples if I forget the Aromasin. I do have bloods next week so I'm gonna keep this routine and see where my estrogen levels are sitting with the 3 x a week Aromasin dose. I hope it's sitting in a nice level as I personally feel good on this stack. Morning wood is almost daily and this always signifys a healthy hormone level. I've went periods of no morning wood for weeks on end so now it's back I feel like my body is happy with these levels.

I am hoping for my old libido back but if I'm honest I don't think that will ever return. I can still do the deeds and perform. That's no issues. It's not the actual work it's the drive for it. I use to enjoy that strong urge. Now I can go weeks without even thinking of sex and this was never me. I feel slightly numb overall.

Does HCG have a tapering effect and over a few weeks and the hormones all sit stable will it improve my mood/drive etc? I've read so many different reports.
 
I just got back to Hyperion after some months break, where I took some other T-Boosters that didn't worked out the way I hoped for. I started Hyperion last week at 6 pumps in the morning and what can I say, it does the trick, libido is ramped up more or less from day one. I'm now curious how long the effect stays this time.
 
poluvolo said:
bombyx mori extract + black ginger extract+ xanthoparmelia scabrosa+ tribulus terrestis 90% saponins
is super libido stack
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Where do you get the Xanthoparmelia & bombyx mori from europe? I already get tribestan of ebay or amazon straight from bulgarian sellers and APS Tribilus from iherb.com which uses strong extract methods. IT needs to be real bulgarian high extract Tribulus terresteris with high amount furostanol saponins as protodioscin such as tribestan, APS tribilus or tribesterone (Hi-tech pharmacuticals). A lot of tribulus terrestis 90% saponis extracts are fakes with 0% amount of furostanol (example now foods & nutricost and the popular tribooster by biotech USA. black ginger extract I get easily from ebay or iherb aswell.
 
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