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I think the past couple years fight is catching up to the government, well I hope at least.

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Lou will not shave until GTII breaks $100.

Hopefully for my own benefit he will shave soon.
 
Who thinks the economy will officially collapse after the mid-terms?
 
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PSNY at a critical level :(
please please dont fall below 4.80
 
GTII tanked down to $3.90 and FNGR $6.63, both tanked about the same times and were likely both dark pool short attacked. No afterhours on GTII, FNGR is going up a bit about 5%. The small group shorting GTII has an intense amount of short money on the line and rumors of IRS investigations and they have previous stock market fraud arrests so this is getting spicy.

Was thinking of starting a position on FNGR but still havent. Have about 300 shares of APE at potential disposal, still have room to drop AMC and be happy with my position as Im still up from last year, but wasnt craving it.

AMC CTB Average closed at 25% and SI is still over 19%, (only what rerported to Ortex of course) same play different day.

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ax1 said:
GTII tanked down to $3.90 and FNGR $6.63, both tanked about the same times and were likely both dark pool short attacked. No afterhours on GTII, FNGR is going up a bit about 5%. The small group shorting GTII has an intense amount of short money on the line and rumors of IRS investigations and they have previous stock market fraud arrests so this is getting spicy.

Was thinking of starting a position on FNGR but still havent. Have about 300 shares of APE at potential disposal, still have room to drop AMC and be happy with my position as Im still up from last year, but wasnt craving it.

AMC CTB Average closed at 25% and SI is still over 19%, (only what rerported to Ortex of course) same play different day.

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If you bail on AMC before $283, do I win the bet?
 
ax1 said:
The bet was if it hits $283, so I dunno I kinda feel like that wording is fairly clear that it was about the price. Also this was a stock split, it split into 2 different tickers splitting the price which we were unaware of prior, so also, I dunno I feel like they should be combined but I will let you finalize that, but lets clear that up right now. I have my opinion, but tell me what you want and I will honor it.

And yes, because of the split it sure is possible I might bail before $283 at least chunk of it, but I sure am in for the squeeze still. Not happy about APE, that pissed me off, you did call that one right, for now at least :)
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Not happy about ape either lol
 
GreenMachineX said:
Not happy about ape either lol
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I was planning on dumping APE as low as $23 or $28 that very day it came out, that would have had me very comfortable for a while waiting on AMC to pop. At over 2200 shares 65% long term gains tax, it would have gone there imo, but they halted that crap 13 times, people all around the world never got their shares some not even for weeks, people werent allowed to buy it or some brokerages didnt even list it, the whole system conned the crap out of us. I really hope AA is doing something about this behind the scenes, its just so wrong.
 
ax1 said:
I was planning on dumping APE as low as $23 or $28 that very day it came out, that would have had me very comfortable for a while waiting on AMC to pop. At over 2200 shares 65% long term gains tax, it would have gone there imo, but they halted that crap 13 times, people all around the world never got their shares some not even for weeks, people werent allowed to buy it or some brokerages didnt even list it, the whole system conned the crap out of us. I really hope AA is doing something about this behind the scenes, its just so wrong.
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Yessir. The illegal activity of beyond comprehension now.
 
BamBam54 said:
If you bail on AMC before $283, do I win the bet?
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The bet was if it hits $283 not necessarily sell even though I insisted I wouldnt sell until then....before we knew the stock was splitting into two different tickers. I dunno I kinda feel like that wording is fairly clear that it was about the price hitting that mark, not necessarily that I guarantee I hold until then. To simplify things I dont mind leaving the focus just on AMC to your advantage. Thats my opinion, but tell me what you want and I will honor it. I always was considering planning on holding a handful of shares all the way through to see if it hit near $1,000 or more anyways regardless if I sell most of them or not, whether I do that or not we will find out but $283 I for sure will have at least a little basket held up to that.

And yes, because of the split it sure is possible I might sell off most before $283 most likely not all, if we get there of course. Not happy about APE, that pissed me off, you did call that one right, for now at least :) This is a hard decision and having cash on hand is good, if the economy totally collapses would probably guarantee me some opportunities but in a sad way. Let me not get ahead of myself, my shares could also melt away lol
 
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Short thesis is dead, if AMC was going bankrupt they would be paying off 1/2 a billion bucks in debt!

I wonder if this came from their over billion cash on hand, selling off APE or a combination of both?????

Notice of Prepayment of the Odeon Term Loan Facilities


The proceeds from the Offering, together with cash on hand, are expected to be used to fund repayment in full (the “Repayment”) of the existing term loan facilities, with a principal value of $506 million at June 30, 2022 (based on the currency exchange rates as of such date), made available to OCGL pursuant to the term loan facility agreement dated February 15, 2021 (the “Odeon Term Loan Facilities”), between, among others, OCGL as borrower, Kroll Agency Services Limited (formerly known as Lucid Agency Services Limited) as agent and Kroll Trustee Services Limited (formerly known as Lucid Trustee Services Limited) as security agent, as amended on July 14, 2022, and to pay fees, costs, premiums and expenses in connection with the Offering and the Repayment. Concurrently with the pricing of the Offering, OCGL issued a notice of prepayment to Kroll Agency Services Limited (formerly known as Lucid Agency Services Limited) as agent under the Odeon Term Loan Facilities, of OCGL’s intention to complete the repayment in full of the Odeon Term Loan Facilities on October 20, 2022.

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ax1 said:
Short thesis is dead, if AMC was going bankrupt they would be paying off 1/2 a billion bucks in debt!

I wonder if this came from their over billion cash on hand, selling off APE or a combination of both?????

Notice of Prepayment of the Odeon Term Loan Facilities


The proceeds from the Offering, together with cash on hand, are expected to be used to fund repayment in full (the “Repayment”) of the existing term loan facilities, with a principal value of $506 million at June 30, 2022 (based on the currency exchange rates as of such date), made available to OCGL pursuant to the term loan facility agreement dated February 15, 2021 (the “Odeon Term Loan Facilities”), between, among others, OCGL as borrower, Kroll Agency Services Limited (formerly known as Lucid Agency Services Limited) as agent and Kroll Trustee Services Limited (formerly known as Lucid Trustee Services Limited) as security agent, as amended on July 14, 2022, and to pay fees, costs, premiums and expenses in connection with the Offering and the Repayment. Concurrently with the pricing of the Offering, OCGL issued a notice of prepayment to Kroll Agency Services Limited (formerly known as Lucid Agency Services Limited) as agent under the Odeon Term Loan Facilities, of OCGL’s intention to complete the repayment in full of the Odeon Term Loan Facilities on October 20, 2022.

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That's all the rest of their debt???
 
GreenMachineX said:
That's all the rest of their debt???
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They had over 1.5 billion in debt but that was off the top of my head.

And actually they didnt pay off 1/2 billion, I got that wrong sorry about that.

He paid of $106 million of $506 million that was due next year, and was able to refinance that to $400 million due 4 years later in 2027.

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Pricing of Notes Offering

On October 14, 2022, AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc. (the “Company, or “AMC”) issued a press release announcing that Odeon Finco PLC, a wholly-owned direct subsidiary of Odeon Cinemas Group Limited (“OCGL”) and an indirect subsidiary of the Company, had priced its private offering (the “Offering”) of $400.0 million aggregate principal amount of 12.750% senior secured notes due 2027 (the “Notes”), at an issue price of 92.00%, in transactions exempt from registration under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”). The Offering is expected to close on or around October 20, 2022, subject to customary closing conditions. A copy of the press release is attached to this report as Exhibit 99.1 and is incorporated by reference herein.

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They had over 1.5 billion in debt but that was off the top of my head.

And actually they didnt pay off 1/2 billion, I got that wrong sorry about that.

He paid of $106 million of $506 million that was due next year, and was able to refinance that to $400 million due 4 years later in 2027.

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Pricing of Notes Offering

On October 14, 2022, AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc. (the “Company, or “AMC”) issued a press release announcing that Odeon Finco PLC, a wholly-owned direct subsidiary of Odeon Cinemas Group Limited (“OCGL”) and an indirect subsidiary of the Company, had priced its private offering (the “Offering”) of $400.0 million aggregate principal amount of 12.750% senior secured notes due 2027 (the “Notes”), at an issue price of 92.00%, in transactions exempt from registration under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”). The Offering is expected to close on or around October 20, 2022, subject to customary closing conditions. A copy of the press release is attached to this report as Exhibit 99.1 and is incorporated by reference herein.

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Oh, short thesis ain't dead yet then. But whatever. Still have high hopes for T+90.
 
I kind of wish they just used ape when it was at its peak to sell off and pay off the debt. Wonder why they waited until it had minimal value...
 
GreenMachineX said:
I kind of wish they just used ape when it was at its peak to sell off and pay off the debt. Wonder why they waited until it had minimal value...
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How would they know what the peak was going to be? I easily should have topped $20 that very day, but that it just simply became a crime scene with 40 million FTD's on day 1 of trading, and millions of shares being kept for nefarious purposes not even being dropped into peoples accounts for over a week.

We have no confirmation they sold them yet.....I sure think they might have especially through that Citigroup distribution deal, but we will probably get confirmation the next quarterly meeting. That Citigroup sale was supposed to be at a pre-determined price not necessarily market price so that may have incentivized brokerages that were short on shares to pay higher to cover their FTD's.
 
GTII and FNGR made headlines on Zero Hedge....not any place I frequent but they do have a big user base and any more exposure will help.

Just a warning, these are very high risks plays, I got in GTII very well knowing it cold drop sub $1. Im still not in FNGR. GTII probably has a bigger potential and there are no trading halts, so if it pops its going to come and go fast both ways.

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How would they know what the peak was going to be? I easily should have topped $20 that very day, but that it just simply became a crime scene with 40 million FTD's on day 1 of trading, and millions of shares being kept for nefarious purposes not even being dropped into peoples accounts for over a week.

We have no confirmation they sold them yet.....I sure think they might have especially through that Citigroup distribution deal, but we will probably get confirmation the next quarterly meeting. That Citigroup sale was supposed to be at a pre-determined price not necessarily market price so that may have incentivized brokerages that were short on shares to pay higher to cover their FTD's.
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Ok, not even the peak, but they could've sold when it was anywhere higher and paid off sooooo much...
 
GreenMachineX said:
Ok, not even the peak, but they could've sold when it was anywhere higher and paid off sooooo much...
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Next Q3 earnings report will be either Novermber the 6th or 14th, not sure what is confirmed but thats the timeline when we find out what happened.
 
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The bet was if it hits $283 not necessarily sell even though I insisted I wouldnt sell until then....before we knew the stock was splitting into two different tickers. I dunno I kinda feel like that wording is fairly clear that it was about the price hitting that mark, not necessarily that I guarantee I hold until then. To simplify things I dont mind leaving the focus just on AMC to your advantage. Thats my opinion, but tell me what you want and I will honor it. I always was considering planning on holding a handful of shares all the way through to see if it hit near $1,000 or more anyways regardless if I sell most of them or not, whether I do that or not we will find out but $283 I for sure will have at least a little basket held up to that.

And yes, because of the split it sure is possible I might sell off most before $283 most likely not all, if we get there of course. Not happy about APE, that pissed me off, you did call that one right, for now at least :) This is a hard decision and having cash on hand is good, if the economy totally collapses would probably guarantee me some opportunities but in a sad way. Let me not get ahead of myself, my shares could also melt away lol
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@ax1 - agreed that our bet was not based on you actually selling AMC, but only if the stock price would reach the stipulated $283 in a certain time period. I was just half-joking that if you were selling it was because you FINALLY realized it would never go to the moon (because it won't) and we could save a while lot of time waiting.

I view the APE gimmick as more of a dividend than a split. It wound up hurting the stock price and raping more money from retailers.... but at this point that is pretty much par for the course. I no longer believe in the short-fable or synthetic shares or hegies not covering or T+90, or SEC inventing new rules to stop secret backroom deals. Its more about youtube click bait than anything else, and it looks like we got conned by a bald grifter from Santo Domingo and an idiot shouting alone in a hotel room and a groper/molester from Boston....
 
*yells* stop taking on more debt until current debt is paid off

my financial advisor told me to do ..thought it was good advice lol
 
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@ax1 - agreed that our bet was not based on you actually selling AMC, but only if the stock price would reach the stipulated $283 in a certain time period. I was just half-joking that if you were selling it was because you FINALLY realized it would never go to the moon (because it won't) and we could save a while lot of time waiting.

I view the APE gimmick as more of a dividend than a split. It wound up hurting the stock price and raping more money from retailers.... but at this point that is pretty much par for the course. I no longer believe in the short-fable or synthetic shares or hegies not covering or T+90, or SEC inventing new rules to stop secret backroom deals. Its more about youtube click bait than anything else, and it looks like we got conned by a bald grifter from Santo Domingo and an idiot shouting alone in a hotel room and a groper/molester from Boston....
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Who are these 3 peeps you just described?
 
BamBam54 said:
@ax1 - agreed that our bet was not based on you actually selling AMC, but only if the stock price would reach the stipulated $283 in a certain time period. I was just half-joking that if you were selling it was because you FINALLY realized it would never go to the moon (because it won't) and we could save a while lot of time waiting.

I view the APE gimmick as more of a dividend than a split. It wound up hurting the stock price and raping more money from retailers.... but at this point that is pretty much par for the course. I no longer believe in the short-fable or synthetic shares or hegies not covering or T+90, or SEC inventing new rules to stop secret backroom deals. Its more about youtube click bait than anything else, and it looks like we got conned by a bald grifter from Santo Domingo and an idiot shouting alone in a hotel room and a groper/molester from Boston....
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Oh its good, you can have fun with me :)

I wouldnt say I "finally realized it would never go to the moon" everything is there for it to still happen, its a heavily shorted stock with large sythetics and the shorts havent covered yet. Im very sure of that.... but I dunno when it comes to all the crime if we can overcome that and the government is azz, we will see. If anything I have to make sure I secure my bank account and my family above all else even if I missed out on some. And the only reason I sold some because being YOLO is not a great idea (yes I always knew that I made my choice before) and I have not enough funds to really diversify myself out of that.

Im willing to give you some leverage and cut back our deadline a little to March 1, 2024 (I think we said 2025 sometime right?) that way we can have more pressure and more fun. And Ill tell you what, if I do sell 80% or more of my current bag before that and no $283, you are paid! So lets see, I will round down a tad and lets say if I hit below 320 AMC shares.

Sounds good?
 
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Oh its good, you can have fun with me :)

I wouldnt say I "finally realized it would never go to the moon" everything is there for it to still happen but I dunno, we will see. If anything I have to make sure I secure my bank account and my family above all else even if I missed out on some. And the only reason I sold some because being YOLO is not a great idea (yes I always knew that I made my choice before) and I have not enough funds to really diversify myself out of that.

Im willing to give you some leverage and cut back our deadline a little to March 1, 2024 (I think we said 2025 sometime right?) that way we can have more pressure and more fun. And Ill tell you what, if I do sell 80% or more of my current bag before that and no $283, you are paid! So lets see, I will round down a tad and lets say if I hit below 320 AMC shares.

Sounds good?
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All my stock money is YOLOed into AMC/APE 😆 🤣
 
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ax1 said:
Oh its good, you can have fun with me :)

I wouldnt say I "finally realized it would never go to the moon" everything is there for it to still happen, its a heavily shorted stock with large sythetics and the shorts havent covered yet. Im very sure of that.... but I dunno when it comes to all the crime if we can overcome that and the government is azz, we will see. If anything I have to make sure I secure my bank account and my family above all else even if I missed out on some. And the only reason I sold some because being YOLO is not a great idea (yes I always knew that I made my choice before) and I have not enough funds to really diversify myself out of that.

Im willing to give you some leverage and cut back our deadline a little to March 1, 2024 (I think we said 2025 sometime right?) that way we can have more pressure and more fun. And Ill tell you what, if I do sell 80% or more of my current bag before that and no $283, you are paid! So lets see, I will round down a tad and lets say if I hit below 320 AMC shares.

Sounds good?
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I'd say that's very generous.
Would love to see this whole sad story put behind us some day soon.
 
AVCT is one of the short squeeze plays on my watchlist, having a huge 35% pop.
 
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AVCT is one of the short squeeze plays on my watchlist, having a huge 35% pop.
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Is it a "huge pop" if still down 50% from less than a month ago? I'm really struggling with the idea of a moon shot that goes down more than up....
 
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Is it a "huge pop" if still down 50% from less than a month ago? I'm really struggling with the idea of a moon shot that goes down more than up....
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What was the price when it was bought up on the internetz middle of last week?

Are you saying you would never buy a heavily naked shorted dip?
 
ax1 said:
What was the price when it was bought up on the internetz middle of last week?

Are you saying you would never buy a heavily naked shorted dip?
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Yeah, I think I am done with chasing "shorts" for a while. Too many being pumped and dumped. Retail spread too thin to make a real difference. And hedges shorting and holding as long as they feel like, without blinking.
 
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Yeah, I think I am done with chasing "shorts" for a while. Too many being pumped and dumped. Retail spread too thin to make a real difference. And hedges shorting and holding as long as they feel like, without blinking.
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Its a high risk game not for everybody for sure, it can wipe you out. Im just having some fun and can pay my bills if I lose it all, thats my own risk and warning to all. Im not rich either but can risk this gamble if it doesnt turn out.

I think a smart move is to have cash on hand and if the stock market totally collapses thats where millionaires are made.
 
Looks like Kanye West is going to aquire Parler, they dont have a ticker though just checked.
 
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