Ph that won't affect singers voice

lonph

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Hi guys,

First time posting.
My friend... is a singer and wants to pursue this. We are in the UK. He has used dianabol in the past and is early 30s and an experienced trainer.

What product will not affect the voice? I know that (extremely limited) research has shown that in rats, exogenous hormones do not change vocal parameters, but regardless of this, I am guessing that the less androgenic the hormone the less likely these effects will be? (the term less androgenic is misleading but I didn't know how else to explain.

Orginally I recommended promagnon 35 but then discovered that its ration was more androgenic than dbol. The dbol he felt brought his voice down a little. Also didn't like the extreme 'wet' gain followed by a big crash (obvious reasons nevertheless...)

Currently I am thinking halodrol would be a good shout - compared to promagnon the effects on the vocal folds should be less (due to it exhibiting less effects typical of very 'androgenic' substances).
Can anyone recommend anything other than halodrol that fits this?

Thanks
 
I must commend you on posting by far the most ridiculously funny question I have ever read on here. Is "your friend" trying to be the biggest guy in the choir? if his voice deepens enough just move him from alto to bass lol!
Talk about first world problems.
 
This is not a stupid question. No offence but if you don't know the answer save your silly comments for yourself.
 
Its not a dumb question. Being a vocalist myself I understand:) halodrol is not the least androgenic choice but if you aren't going through rediicoulus doses you should be fine. What about sarms? Lgd is a great compound for mass.
 
lonph said:
This is not a stupid question. No offence but if you don't know the answer save your silly comments for yourself.
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I didnt say it was stupid I said it was funny.
Made me think of this commercial
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And always remember
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The fact that Ronnie still sounds like Ronnie should put ANY fears regarding AAS and vocal changes to be.

This of course changes if one was NOT born a man to begin with.......................................
 
Renew1 said:
He was last seen on this site 7 1/2 years ago.
Was it just curiosity, or are you a singer, as well?
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****, I did not bother to check lol. I am a singer as well. It's tough to find vocalists who have used AAS.

I'd like to avoid drops; but, more than anything, I want to avoid becoming hoarse. I know people don't recommend standalone var cycles, but it's something I've been considering.
 
BCseacow83 said:
The fact that Ronnie still sounds like Ronnie should put ANY fears regarding AAS and vocal changes to be.

This of course changes if one was NOT born a man to begin with.......................................
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lol, you would think so, but I have seen a bunch of dudes whose voices have gotten significantly deeper and/or hoarser. I wonder if it's genetic, or if it has more to do with the age they started :unsure:
 
I had a deep voice anyway (people have tried to get me to do radio, several different times).
But steroids definitely make my voice deeper.
How much of it is permanent? That one is harder to determine, because I've been cycling on and off for years, also it is easier to notice the rapid deepening than a (possible) slower creeping into a "higher" range.
 
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