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Hi any help would be greatly appreciated on this topic.

Im 23 years old and 6 months i went to run my first cycle of tren. I was giving tablets and told to take three a day with milk thistle( absolutely crazy considering what ive read has to be taken with tren) but i honestly trusted the man who gave me as i had become very close to him in the gym and seen great results in himself. After 5 days i began getting verry dizzy spells and heart palpitations so i stopped straight away. About 2/3 weeks later i started getting ED. For months i never knew why my doctor was absolutely clueless even tho i brought the steroids up to him. Only last week i started doing my own research as its destroying my mental health and found out it can happen from tren.. I know i was so so stupid to even take it the way i did but i did and its my own mistake which ive had to live with. Is there anyone who has had similar issues that could please help me in what steps to take or even point me in the right direction would mean a lot thank you guys!
 
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Tren is an injectable, oil-based steroid.

What compound did you actually consume? Was it Methyl Tren (sometimes referred to as Mtren or Oral Tren)?

If you discontinued months ago, your natural testosterone production would typically be recovered by now.

The only way to know this would be to get bloodwork now to check your total testosterone levels and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle-stimulating Hormone (FSH). It can be useful when troubleshooting erectile dysfunction to know other things like estradiol, free test, SHBG, prolactin, and especially useful to know what your total test and LH & FSH were prior to the steroids for comparison, but if you can get total test and LH checked now that will at least show you if have decent or low testosterone production now . Some guys, albeit the minority, don’t recover their natural testosterone production well after exposure to steroids.
 
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^ what hyde said

i also assume it was oral Xtren maybe .. 3 caps do you know the dosage ? 30mg each ?

All good we all make mistakes, glad you stopped and are taking precautions and joined the forum to learn and educate others from your mistakes.

I like the idea of getting a blood test, i think you will recover over time .. all dependent on person to person you are pretty young so hopefully its sooner for u
 

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hi the actual name on the tablets was chlorodehydromethyltestrone if you know or heard of it, I have just gone for bloods yesterday i gave a list with everything you said and more waiting on results should be friday week, do you think the fact i used them for only 5 days will stand to me? Im just freaking out a bit sorry for annoying anyone just this **** shouldnt be happening to me at 23 cant even go out to girls without viagra anymore its crazy
 

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^ what hyde said

i also assume it was oral Xtren maybe .. 3 caps do you know the dosage ? 30mg each ?

All good we all make mistakes, glad you stopped and are taking precautions and joined the forum to learn and educate others from your mistakes.

I like the idea of getting a blood test, i think you will recover over time .. all dependent on person to person you are pretty young so hopefully its sooner for u
Hey man thanks alot, they were 10mg tablets i took 3 a day for the first 3 days then he told me if im having heart problems to cut to 1 a day but i did that for two days and got way to paranoid and cut them all together.
 
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We’ll see what bloods say, but 5 days of Turinabol is EXTREMELY trivial, so I’m currently wondering if you are in your head about all of this. Erectile function is very much impacted by performance anxiety - if you think you have a problem or aren’t meeting expectations, you will literally soften your noodle even worse, in a vicious cycle.

Tbol is such a safe drug, women have used it for decades. I would never advise this for a woman, but this guy didn’t do you dirty or steer you wrong - he gave you a truly beginner cycle with appropriate doses & precautions (you don’t need anything to safely eat a few tabs of Turinabol per day).
 
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That's Tbol
We’ll see what bloods say, but 5 days of Turinabol is EXTREMELY trivial, so I’m currently wondering if you are in your head about all of this. Erectile function is very much impacted by performance anxiety - if you think you have a problem or aren’t meeting expectations, you will literally soften your noodle even worse, in a vicious cycle.

Tbol is such a safe drug, women have used it for decades. I would never advise this for a woman, but this guy didn’t do you dirty or steer you wrong - he gave you a truly beginner cycle with appropriate doses & precautions (you don’t need anything to safely eat a few tabs of Turinabol per day).
thats what im thinking as well . but we all know the sources can be sketchy and who really knows what it is ( not saying the dude lied to u .. just saying he might not even know what he is buying ... unless he is testign stuff out which highly doubt it )

what if he was to take msten/sdrol instead .. im always scared of these black market stuff and esp buying from a huge guy at the gym
 

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We’ll see what bloods say, but 5 days of Turinabol is EXTREMELY trivial, so I’m currently wondering if you are in your head about all of this. Erectile function is very much impacted by performance anxiety - if you think you have a problem or aren’t meeting expectations, you will literally soften your noodle even worse, in a vicious cycle.

Tbol is such a safe drug, women have used it for decades. I would never advise this for a woman, but this guy didn’t do you dirty or steer you wrong - he gave you a truly beginner cycle with appropriate doses & precautions (you don’t need anything to safely eat a few tabs of Turinabol per day).
It could maybe be in my head a tiny bit but the fact i havent had morning wood in months, when i cum its half the amount of what it usually was and next to nothing if i cum twice in one day. I have no sex drive in the slightest when I used to be never able to keep my d*** out my hand! All that going with not being able to have a full erection is whats really troubling me!
 
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Maybe next time we won't take mystery drugs that we have absolutely no clue what they are....

In the meantime it sounds like you need PCT and cailis until things are back in order



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Next time use your frickin head and don't just randomly take drugs that you don't even know what they are so we don't chemically castrate ourselves....
 

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Maybe next time we won't take mystery drugs that we have absolutely no clue what they are....

In the meantime it sounds like you need PCT and cailis until things are back in order



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Next time use your frickin head and don't just randomly take drugs that you don't even know what they are so we don't chemically castrate ourselves....
Thanks for the help man!As i said i know it was my mistake dont really need to be told that again!im looking to find ways of fixing the problems, wasnt a mystery drug either he had told me what it was i was just uneducated on the topic and yes i know i should of still done my research which i did but not into too much detail which again is completely my fault, just a quick one on for example clomid will these not just mask the problem instead of actually fixing the problem? Would it make things worse over time?thanks again tho man ill have a look into these!
 

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If bloods say you have low testosterone, and especially low LH, I would run 20-40mg tamoxifen for 6 weeks and see if things improve.
Thank you man ill post my bloods in here when i get them backas im not knowledgeable on it all,if use had a second to look at them at the time to see if use spot anything that would be great!
 

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Thanks for the help man!As i said i know it was my mistake dont really need to be told that again!im looking to find ways of fixing the problems, wasnt a mystery drug either he had told me what it was i was just uneducated on the topic and yes i know i should of still done my research which i did but not into too much detail which again is completely my fault, just a quick one on for example clomid will these not just mask the problem instead of actually fixing the problem? Would it make things worse over time?thanks again tho man ill have a look into these!
No a SERM will just block estrogen receptors to stop negative feedback. It’ll tell your brain to put out LH and then test. It’s the best first line fix after a cycle.
 
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Thanks for the help man!As i said i know it was my mistake dont really need to be told that again!im looking to find ways of fixing the problems, wasnt a mystery drug either he had told me what it was i was just uneducated on the topic and yes i know i should of still done my research which i did but not into too much detail which again is completely my fault, just a quick one on for example clomid will these not just mask the problem instead of actually fixing the problem? Would it make things worse over time?thanks again tho man ill have a look into these!
They wouldn't recommend something that would just mask the problem and not fix it.

But you have to remember, even though I trust what Smont and Hyde say, doesn't mean you should (or even that I should, honestly).

We should all be doing our own research, not just blindly taking the words of guys on the internet.

So do some homework on the stuff you're being told, it's worth it ;)
 
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Thanks for the help man!As i said i know it was my mistake dont really need to be told that again!im looking to find ways of fixing the problems, wasnt a mystery drug either he had told me what it was i was just uneducated on the topic and yes i know i should of still done my research which i did but not into too much detail which again is completely my fault, just a quick one on for example clomid will these not just mask the problem instead of actually fixing the problem? Would it make things worse over time?thanks again tho man ill have a look into these!
Except it was a mystery drug because you blindly took some random pills just based of of what someone told you.

Anywho, all the information you need has already been provided in the thread.

Just keep in mind for next time that while steroids can be used responsibly to a degree you also have the possibility of permanently damaging yourself forever when you do things incorrectly. Keep that in mind
 
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And like the guy above said you shouldn't just be taking what we tell you and running with it you should be taking all the things we said and then looking them up and doing research on your own so that you know what is right and wrong and not blindly trusting people again
 
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Thank you man ill post my bloods in here when i get them backas im not knowledgeable on it all,if use had a second to look at them at the time to see if use spot anything that would be great!
Post your bloods here in this thread when you get them and I will be happy to give my “bropinion”.
 
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Make sure you get tested for test, free t, estrogen, lh, fsh, prolactin ect. You need to get enough info for someone to figure out the issues or it's gonna be a waste
 

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I havent stopped doing research lads since ive realised where my problem has came from ill never make that mistake again trust me. Ive got that all tested by my doc just waiting on the results, ill nip them in here for use to have a look see if use spot something i dont.. Again thanks alot for supplying some answers for me really appreciated.
 

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If it really was Tbol you’ll be fine, I would actually keep going but I guess that’s not what this thread is about.

I would do Clomid at 25mg for 6-8 weeks and see how you feel after that.
 
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One of my favorite movies ever.
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Yep, I got a long list of classic movies that I think the next generation behind us needs to make sure they see and that's one of them
Bruce Willis made some classics and that one was such a nice change of pace from his normal movies.

The 6th sense I probably watched 20 times
 
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Yep, I got a long list of classic movies that I think the next generation behind us needs to make sure they see and that's one of them
Bruce Willis made some classics and that one was such a nice change of pace from his normal movies.

The 6th sense I probably watched 20 times
What is the movie?
 

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Yep, I got a long list of classic movies that I think the next generation behind us needs to make sure they see and that's one of them
Bruce Willis made some classics and that one was such a nice change of pace from his normal movies.

The 6th sense I probably watched 20 times
Totally forgot about that movie. So Good. I remember seeing that I the movie theater when I was in like 5th or 6th grade
 

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Bloods just came back everything seems ok to my knowledge bar the fsg and progesterone, Hude or Smont if use were able have quick look for me if use get a second and let me know whats my best suit next step would be big help, thanks again
 

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No total and free testosterone? SHBG? Or did I just miss them?

LH and FSH are very low, so your test production is suppressed. Did you source a SERM already?

Next time you want to call up someone, you can tag their username with the "at" sign, like this: @Hyde @Smont

Also btw, you may want to reupload the pic(s) so that your name is snipped out of the pic. If you care about that.
 
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I have free t4 thats it i asked for total test and free test and for some reason dosent seem to be there bit fucking annoying.. ive put order of clomid in will take two weeks just wanted see is that the best protocal.. and thats my doctors name hahaha
 
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I have free t4 thats it i asked for total test and free test and for some reason dosent seem to be there bit fucking annoying.. ive put order of clomid in will take two weeks just wanted see is that the best protocal.. and thats my doctors name hahaha
Oh yeah it says "Ordering clinician", my bad = )

That is annoying.. TT and Free T would probably be the most important values here. Although low LH and FSH indicates low T and are important values as well. Clomid is a good choice. It should get that LH (and test) up pretty quick.
 
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Based on your 2.0 LH, and the low FSH, you probably have not recovered well hormonally. In that scenario I personally would run some Clomiphene for 3 months, then get bloodwork again several months after finishing that course to see what sticks. Clomid will raise your natural testosterone for sure, but whether you remain at decent levels after discontinuing or fall back down to low levels is what you will be testing.

Usually 8 weeks of 25mg daily, then 25mg every other day til the end will be sufficient while minimizing emotional effects. You may not have a great libido during this time because Clomid can act as an estrogen somewhat mentally, but you will have bigger cumshots on it, as a consolation.

Based on it being months since you used a little Tbol, you do not recover from AAS well at all. I would avoid them indefinitely, unless you intend to stay on them for the rest of your life, because you will probably need replacement for a decent quality of life if you do.
 

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@Hyde so will that hopefully bring my libido back at end of the cycle?its my libido,not being able maintain an erection and cumshots being my main problems at the moment.Yea clearly arnt made for me at all will be staying away for life to be honest i love the gym and would love to compete but my health is more important.. guy i got off has said to be that i would need to inject something with the clomid ive asked him to get back to me with a name of what it is as im not putting another thing in my body before i know what it is..havent heard back yet but have you heard or know of anything ran with clomid or should it be grand by itself as a serm?
 
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@Hyde so will that hopefully bring my libido back at end of the cycle?its my libido,not being able maintain an erection and cumshots being my main problems at the moment.Yea clearly arnt made for me at all will be staying away for life to be honest i love the gym and would love to compete but my health is more important.. guy i got off has said to be that i would need to inject something with the clomid ive asked him to get back to me with a name of what it is as im not putting another thing in my body before i know what it is..havent heard back yet but have you heard or know of anything ran with clomid or should it be grand by itself as a serm?
He most likely means HCG. It mimics LH in the body and signals testes to produce test. It's usually used before the serm after a suppressive cycle to wake the testes up from being inactive during the cycle. Or used throughout the cycle to keep the testes from atrophying and getting desesitized to LH in the first place.

Clomid helps erections and related stuff via increasing LH output and thus increasing test production and overal hormonal function.
 

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Yea he was saying was for my balls spot on man! You reckon it would be worth getting aswell? Cheers for the answers man
 
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He’s referring to injecting HCG subcutaneously in your belly fat with an insulin syringe for a couple weeks before then beginning the Clomid therapy. This can be common after a longer steroid course.

Are your testes are significantly smaller? With such a brief steroid exposure, I would highly doubt this. HCG is first used to restore size and responsiveness to LH in the testes IF THEY SHRUNK SIGNIFICANTLY DURING THE STEROID COURSE. So far, all the details you’ve provided indicate that taking that Tbol for a week took your pituitary production right offline, and it just never fired back up very well.
 

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