When is it recommended to add hgh to testosterone cycle?

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Hi, I just started my first testosterone cycle, I took my first injection on Thursday. 300mg per week divided into 150mg 2 times per week.

When is it recommended to add hgh to testosterone cycle?

I am thinking of starting with 2 iu the first 2-3 days, and then 4iu a day.
I am thinking of taking 2iu in the morning and 2iu in the evening. I would like to distribute the 4iu more. But I think I have read somewhere that it is not recommended to take less than 2iu pr shot. But I can't really find any info on it.
On the days it can be done, I would like to take 1iu in the morning, 1iu in the afternoon and 2 in the evening.

Something else. I don't know if it's a placebo, but I feel much more relaxed when I wake up in the morning after the first injection, and my sex drive has increased a lot🥇:giggle:
 
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It's reccomended to add HGH when you can afford it, so if you can afford it and you know it's real, use it.

Being your first cycle, I'd hold off. You want to know what testosterone alone is going to do for you
 

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It's reccomended to add HGH when you can afford it, so if you can afford it and you know it's real, use it.

Being your first cycle, I'd hold off. You want to know what testosterone alone is going to do for you
This👆 and yes it's a placebo but that's okay because I about 3 weeks it will be real and you'll know it.
 

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I just got HGH. Would that be an idea and wait until week 3 or 4 to add it? HGH is for longevity, collagen production so I don't get stretch marks. I already have stretch marks from natural training. And I have started getting new stretch marks around my chest and shoulder without testosterone.

But I like this placebo. Today I didn't get dizzy at all when I had to deadlift
 
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First cycle man… get that money you’d spend on hgh and hire a good coach (250-300$ a month) and you’ll se 10x more progress than you would by coaching yourself even on all the drugs In the world + hgh. A blind man never built a solid house.
 

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First cycle man… get that money you’d spend on hgh and hire a good coach (250-300$ a month) and you’ll se 10x more progress than you would by coaching yourself even on all the drugs In the world + hgh. A blind man never built a solid house.
A blind man never build a solid house. I wonder where these expressions come from. I don't need 10xprogress
 
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A blind man never build a solid house. I wonder where these expressions come from. I don't need 10xprogress
Damn you really a lost cause then. You’ll have no progress like most guy trying to figure out their diet by themselves that’s what I mean. There’s a reason 90% of folks on steroids look the same 10 months later. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Anyways your idea is dead set and you obviously want only one answer so yes go do hgh it’ll be awesome on a first cycle where you don’t even have any idea yet how your body aromatise estrogen, handles hormones. Lets add other stuff on top of it that are most likely shitty peptides and not even hgh. You go king
 

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Damn you really a lost cause then. You’ll have no progress like most guy trying to figure out their diet by themselves that’s what I mean. There’s a reason 90% of folks on steroids look the same 10 months later. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Anyways your idea is dead set and you obviously want only one answer so yes go do hgh it’ll be awesome on a first cycle where you don’t even have any idea yet how your body aromatise estrogen, handles hormones. Lets add other stuff on top of it that are most likely shitty peptides and not even hgh. You go king
What is wrong with you. Why are you talking about coach, and aromatization. That's not the point at all. Lost case, you must be thinking of yourself. Have you fucked your own first cycle since you are talking about everything other than what it is about.
 
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What is wrong with you. Why are you talking about coach, and aromatization. That's not the point at all. Lost case, you must be thinking of yourself. Have you fucked your own first cycle since you are talking about everything other than what it is about.
You’re so far behind that everything flies 10 feet over your head. Good luck and don’t forget to read a little you’ll need it :)
 

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You’re so far behind that everything flies 10 feet over your head. Good luck and don’t forget to read a little you’ll need it :)
Rather be far behind and have things fly 10 feet above my head, rather than be where you are, where everything hits me right in the face. Maybe you should ask your coach why you have a short temper and bad attitude
 
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What is wrong with you. Why are you talking about coach, and aromatization. That's not the point at all. Lost case, you must be thinking of yourself. Have you fucked your own first cycle since you are talking about everything other than what it is about.
No he's correct, for the money you gotta spend on real gh, you would get way more progress and results by skipping the GH and spending that money on a coach. He's trying to set you up for a successful muscle building journey
 
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Rather be far behind and have things fly 10 feet above my head, rather than be where you are, where everything hits me right in the face. Maybe you should ask your coach why you have a short temper and bad attitude
Your completely taking everything out of context, wtf are you so defensive for. The guy just tried to offer u some good advice. You don't have to listen to his advice or anyone's, but you could at least use your reading comprehension skills.
 

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How long are you planning on running the HGH and what are expecting to get out of it?
 
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Oh wait, you said how long, I just read how.

See, I should have used better reading comprehension skills 🤷
 
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Hi, I just started my first testosterone cycle, I took my first injection on Thursday. 300mg per week divided into 150mg 2 times per week.

When is it recommended to add hgh to testosterone cycle?

I am thinking of starting with 2 iu the first 2-3 days, and then 4iu a day.
I am thinking of taking 2iu in the morning and 2iu in the evening. I would like to distribute the 4iu more. But I think I have read somewhere that it is not recommended to take less than 2iu pr shot. But I can't really find any info on it.
On the days it can be done, I would like to take 1iu in the morning, 1iu in the afternoon and 2 in the evening.

Something else. I don't know if it's a placebo, but I feel much more relaxed when I wake up in the morning after the first injection, and my sex drive has increased a lot🥇:giggle:
yeah test will feel like magic juice at first overtime you'll just feel normal if you use it long enough.

I would say you have no business jumping into growth hormone with your first cycle of testosterone. don't even think about it.... get used to some compounds first figure out what the test does to you how it affects you then add one thing at a time in future cycles one day you'll be ready for GH maybe sooner than later everybody's different but I would say as of right now you're definitely not ready. get some test cycles under your belt then run the GH if u want...

Everybody wants microwaved physics I'm 45 years old and I pounded the weights for years and years to build my body right, when people see me they say they can't believe I'm 45 but I put in the time I put in the work and yes I was assisted by PED's such as testosterone and others but it was only help. My diet and training is what built My body. The steroids only helped facilitate my goals and I wish more people thought like this and were health-conscious. I'm on no pedestal man do what you will and I'm sure you're working hard so I'm not taking anything away from you there. I'm just saying these things take time yes you can get huge fast but at what cost, and to your own body and health.
 
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Oh wait, you said how long, I just read how.

See, I should have used better reading comprehension skills 🤷
Haha, all good, OP’s questions is confusing so I understand and yes, even more confusing dosing protocol, I don’t think OP realize HGH has to be run for a long time to get results.
 

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Hell we should just recommend him some insulin too 🤣
I mean it’s his first cycle! So why not go all out: more anabolics, gh, igf1, insulin and maybe some more peptides too? Hell with some melanotan he will be the next Phil Heath. Can’t wait to see you on the Olympia stage man.

On a side note: don’t listen to anything I just said, pull your head out of your a**, listen to the experienced/knowledgeable guys on here who were kind enough to try and help you. I’ve been on AM since 2011 and I still seek out information from the more experienced members, not to mention all the scientific articles, other articles, and YouTube videos I watch in order to line up a cycle or get advice.
 

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Hell we should just recommend him some insulin too 🤣
I mean it’s his first cycle! So why not go all out: more anabolics, gh, igf1, insulin and maybe some more peptides too? Hell with some melanotan he will be the next Phil Heath. Can’t wait to see you on the Olympia stage man.

On a side note: don’t listen to anything I just said, pull your head out of your a**, listen to the experienced/knowledgeable guys on here who were kind enough to try and help you. I’ve been on AM since 2011 and I still seek out information from the more experienced members, not to mention all the scientific articles, other articles, and YouTube videos I watch in order to line up a cycle or get advice.
[/QUOTE actually that might work all his receptors are nice and fresh🤣
 

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We might be on to something here🧐

Let’s just throw the kitchen sink at him and see what happens.
 

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Have you used any GH secretogogues before? There are pros and cons, but they're a lot cheaper and avoid a few of the more serious problems that exogenous GH can bring.

I don't blame you for not wanting to do a cycle without anything on the GH pathway. I would have suggested experimenting prior to the cycle, and using MK677 instead of pinning GH though.

Stacking two unfamiliar compounds and trying them both at the same time is the only problem I see here.
 

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Going to play devils advocate here. Personally I think gh and insulin are more beginner/intermediate friendly than alluded to on the forums.

The issue arises with guys who want to be spoon fed info and don’t do any real appreciable research. So long as you understand what the compounds are, what they’re doing, and what to watch out for (hyper/hypoglycemia) low dose insulin and gh are actually “healthier” then adding more androgens.
 

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Have you used any GH secretogogues before? There are pros and cons, but they're a lot cheaper and avoid a few of the more serious problems that exogenous GH can bring.

I don't blame you for not wanting to do a cycle without anything on the GH pathway. I would have suggested experimenting prior to the cycle, and using MK677 instead of pinning GH though.

Stacking two unfamiliar compounds and trying them both at the same time is the only problem I see here.
I have used mk667. Whether that is a secretogogue is up to the choir.

You are right about stacking 2 unfamiliar compounds. Hence why I’m waiting so long to start a cycle.
 

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