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Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2022 Edition)

sns8778 said:
Thank you for the kind words.

As a company, SNS and CEL both probably suffer from the reverse - in that we don't overhype or heavily promote the products enough. I love the science, I love helping people, and I want the products that we release to really make a difference in people's lives. But I suck at marketing and that is a big detriment to the company because we make a lot of great products but not nearly enough people know about us.

Sleep Assist XT is a great product but of course if you don't respond well to Melatonin then its not a good choice for you. From a formulation and sales standpoint, Melatonin is by far the best selling sleep ingredient so not including it would have been very detrimental to sales bc most people will automatically not buy a sleep product without it in there.

That leads to my next part though in that now that we have the Melatonin sleep product covered, we do plan on doing a different type of sleep and relaxation product in the future that will be Melatonin free. The name will most likely be Sleep Support XT unless I can come up with something more clever.

DPS should have Api-Plex listed soon.

Apigenin is a really cool ingredient and it definitely has a lot of potential uses. Keep in mind, going back to the I don't overhype part, no one is saying that its the absolute best ingredient for some of the things that it does - but its awesome that it does support so many different things; and there's tons of legit research to back a lot of it up. Very fascinating ingredient.

As for Apigenin and sleep, I think its important to note that from my experience and opinion that it helps improve sleep quality but doesn't actually make a person sleepy. As in its not going to ruin your day to take a dose earlier in the day. I hope that makes sense.
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This is awesome I’m excited to try the new goodies y’all gonna offer. As far as marketing I have few ideas if you are interested we can talk about it !
abd I have no problem falling asleep it’s the rem sleep is what I can’t get !!! Pretty bad actually toss and turn all the time , so when I take melatonin it’s 10x worse .
And a lot of ppl love melatonin for me I’m one of those it don’t work for !
Stress and anxiety xt helps me with better sleep so that’s cool apigenin will be tried next .
Also one of the main cool things about apigenin it decrease CD38 enzyme which is main benefit .
Good stuff all in all
 
NattyJuicer said:
This is awesome I’m excited to try the new goodies y’all gonna offer. As far as marketing I have few ideas if you are interested we can talk about it !
abd I have no problem falling asleep it’s the rem sleep is what I can’t get !!! Pretty bad actually toss and turn all the time , so when I take melatonin it’s 10x worse .
And a lot of ppl love melatonin for me I’m one of those it don’t work for !
Stress and anxiety xt helps me with better sleep so that’s cool apigenin will be tried next .
Also one of the main cool things about apigenin it decrease CD38 enzyme which is main benefit .
Good stuff all in all
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@NattyJuicer I would be anxious to hear your experience with the sleep benefits of the Apigenin.
 
NattyJuicer said:
Will def repeat once I start using it , been looking into it for a while now cel have it at bigger dose and astragin to help with absorbing and bioavailability that’s awesome .
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Agree on Melatonin - I love it and have done up to 10-20mg slow released .. and have also done 2.5-5mg

honestly couldnt tell you which one worked better lol .. SNS has sleep assist xt which can be stacked with stress & anxiety as well ..does contain melatonin but was designed in a way where you can do 2-4caps

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And also 18,000 Mg. (18 Grams) Apigenin capped along with absorption like you said is a sweet deal .. looking fwd to feedback on that. I'm testing out recomp solo to see what it does and then want to add in Api-plex later next month most likely.

i love these natty products that makes you stay away from hormonal products and benefits your health at the same time.
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
Agree on Melatonin - I love it and have done up to 10-20mg slow released .. and have also done 2.5-5mg

honestly couldnt tell you which one worked better lol .. SNS has sleep assist xt which can be stacked with stress & anxiety as well ..does contain melatonin but was designed in a way where you can do 2-4caps

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And also 18,000 Mg. (18 Grams) Apigenin capped along with absorption like you said is a sweet deal .. looking fwd to feedback on that. I'm testing out recomp solo to see what it does and then want to add in Api-plex later next month most likely.

i love these natty products that makes you stay away from hormonal products and benefits your health at the same time.
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No more juicing for me im done with that sh!t, don’t miss any of it fuk the gains
Longevity is much better !
Anyways
Yeah man even 1 mg melatonin gets me !!!
 
Have you seen/worked with Denali Biotechnologies out of Alaska? They make AuroraBlue, AuroraGreen, and AuroraRed. A capsule product containing all 3 would be a better alternative then the greens products available IMO.

Unless a veggie powder is standardized to a specific polyphenol percentage, I have reservations on how much healthful compounds actually make it through the manufacturing process. I’m not saying they aren’t beneficial, I’m just curious what compounds are actually in the greens products. For example, if your product has broccoli powder, what’s actually in there? Any Sulforaphane? Quercetin? Kaempferol?

AuroraBlue, for example, states Anthocyanins at 4-5% dry weight, and Proanthocyanidins at 3.5-4%.

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Another idea for the health series is a tea-complex. I think a capsule that contains tea compounds such as theaflavin, theanine, egcg, thearubigins, quercetin, kaempferol, myricitin, etc. would be awesome.

Then I also think it could be cool if it contains a light stimulant complex that mirrors strong tea. Caffeine and a bit of theophyline.

Honestly, IME, one of the best acute cognitive enhancing beverages is a 1-2 black tea bags in 8-12 oz of water. The cognitive enhancing abilities, IMO, are more than just the caffeine + theanine. I think the other compounds are at play as well. An equivalent amount of caffeine + tea in capsule form is never the same to me as black tea, therefore a product that is essentially tea in a capsule would be interesting
 
aaronuconn said:
Have you seen/worked with Denali Biotechnologies out of Alaska? They make AuroraBlue, AuroraGreen, and AuroraRed. A capsule product containing all 3 would be a better alternative then the greens products available IMO.

Unless a veggie powder is standardized to a specific polyphenol percentage, I have reservations on how much healthful compounds actually make it through the manufacturing process. I’m not saying they aren’t beneficial, I’m just curious what compounds are actually in the greens products. For example, if your product has broccoli powder, what’s actually in there? Any Sulforaphane? Quercetin? Kaempferol?

AuroraBlue, for example, states Anthocyanins at 4-5% dry weight, and Proanthocyanidins at 3.5-4%.

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I always wondered about this, not sure if any of these fruits and veggies can make it through the process.
Also I’m glad you mentioned Sulforaphane
@sns8778
Is that possible to get in a supplement I have looked so much into this but seems like most of companies offer it don’t have stable version of it as it’s not simple to make it in a supplement
It’s mainly found the highest in broccoli sprouts which seemed like pain in the ass for me.
But sulfoorphane is like the holy grain for anti cancer anti aging brain health it’s like a super star it activates nrf2
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She have so much data on new research etc she is awesome
 
Rocket3015 said:
Does Melatonin need cycled, or can you take it everyday ?
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Aaron posted some great info on this above.

I personally think its fine to take every day but I do miss days. I take Sleep Assist XT most nights but there are nights that I do go to bed so late and have to get up early that I don't take it. I take 1 capsule if getting 6 or so hours of sleep and 2 capsules if getting 8 or so hours of sleep.
 
NattyJuicer said:
This is awesome I’m excited to try the new goodies y’all gonna offer. As far as marketing I have few ideas if you are interested we can talk about it !
abd I have no problem falling asleep it’s the rem sleep is what I can’t get !!! Pretty bad actually toss and turn all the time , so when I take melatonin it’s 10x worse .
And a lot of ppl love melatonin for me I’m one of those it don’t work for !
Stress and anxiety xt helps me with better sleep so that’s cool apigenin will be tried next .
Also one of the main cool things about apigenin it decrease CD38 enzyme which is main benefit .
Good stuff all in all
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Sure, I'd love to hear any marketing ideas and suggestions. You're welcome to pm me.

The sleep supplement that we're going to be putting out that is melatonin free will probably interest you because it has a delayed release ingredient from a branded ingredient company that hasn't been launched yet that is designed to help staying asleep.

Sleep Assist XT works great for me for helping stay asleep bc without it I wake up a lot during the night but it does have Melatonin so I understand it's not the right choice for you. But for people that like Melatonin, its a great product.

I agree that Stress & Anxiety Support helps with restful sleep as well. I frequently take a capsule before bedtime on that too.

Apigenin is a great ingredient and is one of the most diverse ingredients that I'm aware of in terms of how many different things it can help with.
 
aaronuconn said:
Have you seen/worked with Denali Biotechnologies out of Alaska? They make AuroraBlue, AuroraGreen, and AuroraRed. A capsule product containing all 3 would be a better alternative then the greens products available IMO.

Unless a veggie powder is standardized to a specific polyphenol percentage, I have reservations on how much healthful compounds actually make it through the manufacturing process. I’m not saying they aren’t beneficial, I’m just curious what compounds are actually in the greens products. For example, if your product has broccoli powder, what’s actually in there? Any Sulforaphane? Quercetin? Kaempferol?

AuroraBlue, for example, states Anthocyanins at 4-5% dry weight, and Proanthocyanidins at 3.5-4%.

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I've seen their ingredients and will take a closer look at them.
 
NattyJuicer said:
I always wondered about this, not sure if any of these fruits and veggies can make it through the process.
Also I’m glad you mentioned Sulforaphane
@sns8778
Is that possible to get in a supplement I have looked so much into this but seems like most of companies offer it don’t have stable version of it as it’s not simple to make it in a supplement
It’s mainly found the highest in broccoli sprouts which seemed like pain in the ass for me.
But sulfoorphane is like the holy grain for anti cancer anti aging brain health it’s like a super star it activates nrf2
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She have so much data on new research etc she is awesome
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High % sulforaphane raw materials are very expensive. I'd have to find my notes and look back on them to recall what dosage was needed but the raw materials with even a 1% content are expensive.
 
I suggested this to Apex Alchemy but I'll suggest this to SNS/CEL as well....a transdermal NO pump product that when applied locally to a muscle, gets immediately pumped. It wouldn't hurt also if it could be applied to one's penis as well.
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
I suggested this to Apex Alchemy but I'll suggest this to SNS/CEL as well....a transdermal NO pump product that when applied locally to a muscle, gets immediately pumped. It wouldn't hurt also if it could be applied to one's penis as well.
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We don't do TD products but I know brands that do so I'll pass the suggestion along.

I definitely wouldn't put a transdermal on my penis though. If you think about it, a TD has to have some disruption of the skin to pass the ingredient across and the skin on the penis is one of the most sensitive areas on the body.
 
sns8778 said:
Sure, I'd love to hear any marketing ideas and suggestions. You're welcome to pm me.

The sleep supplement that we're going to be putting out that is melatonin free will probably interest you because it has a delayed release ingredient from a branded ingredient company that hasn't been launched yet that is designed to help staying asleep.

Sleep Assist XT works great for me for helping stay asleep bc without it I wake up a lot during the night but it does have Melatonin so I understand it's not the right choice for you. But for people that like Melatonin, its a great product.

I agree that Stress & Anxiety Support helps with restful sleep as well. I frequently take a capsule before bedtime on that too.

Apigenin is a great ingredient and is one of the most diverse ingredients that I'm aware of in terms of how many different things it can help with.
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Sounds like music to my ears with the slow release to make u stay asleep.
U see my problem is not falling asleep at all I knock out once I lay my head down , it’s staying asleep due to anxiety I believe !!
and stress and anxiety xt is my fav sns product and one that I bought the most , speaking off its OOS at DPS waiting to restock running out of my last bottle.
And will send u a pm nothing crazy just sticking to the basics .
And that sucks with sulfurphane .
Oh welll gotta do broccoli sprouts !
 
I really like ElevATP and find it to give me a good boost in endurance preworkout, I would like to see it in one of your formula.
 
I am going to have to include a bottle of Sleep Assist in my next order, the time release also sounds very intriguing !!
 
Getting caught up on all of the SNS info….. So many exciting things coming. Took a break from a lot of supplements for a bit, but I’ve got some Optimize T and Anacyclus XT en route. Also love your Vaso6. Need to check out more of your health stuffy. Thanks Steve!
 
NattyJuicer said:
@sns8778
How about a supp or ingredient tht can target lowering SHBG
Also any supps for modulating or increasing HGH?
Not sure if that’s even possible…
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I like the sound of increasing HGH, but from a natural standpoint I dont know if that is possible either.

M-Test and Optimize T i believe have ingredients to lower SHBG.
 
ironkill said:
A myostatin inhibitor with green tea or epicat, sulphoraphane, myo-12, ursolic acid
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CEL has epi-plex ( 18 grams of (-)-epicatechin per bottle )
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Just a thought - let's have some fun with this thread.

Since I have a lot of new products that we're getting ready to launch and I want ideas and suggestions and for this thread to grow, I'll release one new product after I get 12 more participation posts about new product ideas and suggestions or when this thread hits 5 pages:)


GQdaLEGEND said:
call my crew lol

@TheMrMuscle
@aaronuconn
@N2ofusion
@MikeSumthin
@rascal14
@Resolve10
@mechka_grizli
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Have you thought of TD? Featuring Magnesium + Vitamin C, NAD and NAC + Curcumin and Valerian
For muscle massage
 
Oliver Kween said:
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Just a thought - let's have some fun with this thread.

Since I have a lot of new products that we're getting ready to launch and I want ideas and suggestions and for this thread to grow, I'll release one new product after I get 12 more participation posts about new product ideas and suggestions or when this thread hits 5 pages:)




Have you thought of TD? Featuring Magnesium + Vitamin C, NAD and NAC + Curcumin and Valerian
For muscle massage
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i think he released Api-plex .. we ready for next challenge steve lol


As for TD's .. he responded few posts earlier
"We don't do TD products but I know brands that do so I'll pass the suggestion along. "
 
ironkill said:
Lol I’m aware. Used many many bottles. I’m talking about a comprehensive myo inhibitor product
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haha i thought about that too ... back in my head was like ironkill is well aware of it why did he ask this ? lol

oh that would be interesting, i stack this with other products so know what you mean to have it all in one but at the same time i like the dosages .. heck some co gives you 300mg-30servings for more charge
 
NattyJuicer said:
Sounds like music to my ears with the slow release to make u stay asleep.
U see my problem is not falling asleep at all I knock out once I lay my head down , it’s staying asleep due to anxiety I believe !!
and stress and anxiety xt is my fav sns product and one that I bought the most , speaking off its OOS at DPS waiting to restock running out of my last bottle.
And will send u a pm nothing crazy just sticking to the basics .
And that sucks with sulfurphane .
Oh welll gotta do broccoli sprouts !
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I love Stress & Anxiety Support as well. I have struggled with anxiety all my life on and off and the last couple years have been worse and that was even before the accident. The last 5 months have been the most stressful that I've ever experienced.

I definitely agree that Stress & Anxiety Support does a great job helping people stay asleep and also helping people relax and unwind to be able to go to sleep. It itself doesn't make a person sleepy, it just helps the brain stop racing to be able to sleep.

I look forward to the pm and ideas.

We hope to be restocked on Stress & Anxiety Support soon. PM me and I can help you with a bottle as I think we have a couple here with damaged labels. I know what its like to run out and it sucks.
 
alvin1 said:
I really like ElevATP and find it to give me a good boost in endurance preworkout, I would like to see it in one of your formula.
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We are looking at including it in a couple of upcoming products, including the an EAA product and possibly in a pre.
 
Rocket3015 said:
I am going to have to include a bottle of Sleep Assist in my next order, the time release also sounds very intriguing !!
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I think that you'll love it. Sleep Assist XT works great and its really cool that the dosage can be adjusted to one's own individual needs. You can use up to 4 capsules but most people find that 1 to 2 capsules is enough. It works wonders for me as far as helping me stay asleep. I went from waking up a bunch of times during the night to maybe once and some nights not at all.
 
ironkill said:
A myostatin inhibitor with green tea or epicat, sulphoraphane, myo-12, ursolic acid
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ironkill said:
Lol I’m aware. Used many many bottles. I’m talking about a comprehensive myo inhibitor product
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I hadn't heard of myo-12 in so many years I forgot about it.

As you know, we have Epi-Plex and I have been thinking about doing something with Epicatechin under the SNS line.

I had thought about an Ursolic Acid product. I just wasn't sure if there was really enough demand for one or not. But if enough people are interested, I'm glad to do one.
 
chainsaw said:
I like the sound of increasing HGH, but from a natural standpoint I dont know if that is possible either.

M-Test and Optimize T i believe have ingredients to lower SHBG.
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Increasing HGH naturally is possible and it can have some potential from a health and longevity standpoint. Where it gets tricky is that a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of even prescription HGH and think that it works quicker and better than it actually does. But with proper expectations, it is possible to do a product that would be very beneficial.

Growth Factor XT was such a product for quite some time. One of the raw materials became completely unavailable so we haven't had it in stock in a long time but are getting ready to re-release it shortly with a slight modification to replace the one ingredient that cannot be obtained anymore.
 
slimsaw00 said:
Getting caught up on all of the SNS info….. So many exciting things coming. Took a break from a lot of supplements for a bit, but I’ve got some Optimize T and Anacyclus XT en route. Also love your Vaso6. Need to check out more of your health stuffy. Thanks Steve!
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Thank you for the kind words.

We definitely have a lot of exciting things coming soon and are planning out a tentative new release lineup for Q4 of this year and Q1 of next year.

I think and hope that you'll love the Optimize-T and Anacyclus XT stack. I look forward to hearing your results.
 
aaronuconn said:
There was Growth Factor XT. Not sure if it’s still around
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We're actually getting ready to bring it back soon; we just had to test out a few different ingredient scenarios to replace one that isn't available anymore.
 
Oliver Kween said:
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Just a thought - let's have some fun with this thread.

Since I have a lot of new products that we're getting ready to launch and I want ideas and suggestions and for this thread to grow, I'll release one new product after I get 12 more participation posts about new product ideas and suggestions or when this thread hits 5 pages:)




Have you thought of TD? Featuring Magnesium + Vitamin C, NAD and NAC + Curcumin and Valerian
For muscle massage
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We released Api-Plex and I'm getting ready to release another one or two tomorrow most likely :)

SNS doesn't do any TD's but I will pass the idea along to others that I know that do. I think that the blend there though would be too much to fit in a TD due to the number of ingredients and dosage requirements of each; but I think the idea overall has good potential.
 
sns8778 said:
We released Api-Plex and I'm getting ready to release another one or two tomorrow most likely :)
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Alright! Let's go! Summer of Supplements, baby.. I'm super stacking SNS style, but i'm game to add more to the Going Big or bust summer of

Opt-T, Anabolic Effect, X-Gels, Epi-Plex, Api-Plex, LeanEdge, TTA, MitoBurn XT
M-Test would be in there, but done sold out.

Can you overstack? ;-)
 
sns8778 said:
I love Stress & Anxiety Support as well. I have struggled with anxiety all my life on and off and the last couple years have been worse and that was even before the accident. The last 5 months have been the most stressful that I've ever experienced.

I definitely agree that Stress & Anxiety Support does a great job helping people stay asleep and also helping people relax and unwind to be able to go to sleep. It itself doesn't make a person sleepy, it just helps the brain stop racing to be able to sleep.

I look forward to the pm and ideas.

We hope to be restocked on Stress & Anxiety Support soon. PM me and I can help you with a bottle as I think we have a couple here with damaged labels. I know what its like to run out and it sucks.
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Hell yeah I can’t wait for HGH boosting product whenever that’s available
And yes I’m running low on stress and anxiety will send you a pm thank u.
And you said u gonna release couple of products let’s seeeee what’s up 👀👀
 
NattyJuicer said:
That's awesome, I'm excited to try out the new goodies you're all about to give away. As far as marketing is concerned, I have few ideas, if you are interested, we can talk about it! abd i have no problem falling asleep this is REM sleep is what i cant get!!! Pretty bad actually rolling over all the time so when I take melatonin it's 10x worse. And alot of ppl love melatonin for me i am one of those that it does not work for! Stress and anxiety xt helps me with better sleep so cool apigenin will try next.
Also one of the main cool things about apigenin is decreasing the CD38 enzyme which is the main benefit.

Good things overall
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Do you try some of this supplements like :

  • 4-amino-3-phenylbutyric acid: AKA Phenibut. may aid in better sleep, stress loss, and fatigue relief.†
  • Gamma aminobutyric acid: may produce a calming effect and may help with anxiety and stress.†
  • L-Phenylalanine: may help better your mood.†
Mela is not mandatory In the sense that you may be sensitive to it. I trust @sns in its productions, I said in another post, that I dropped other brands (except for APEX BlackLion and CEL) to only look on its side for most supplements, Opti-T and Anacyle. I will soon order more and make my collection !
 
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sns8778 said:
We don't do TD products but I know brands that do so I'll pass the suggestion along.

I definitely wouldn't put a transdermal on my penis though. If you think about it, a TD has to have some disruption of the skin to pass the ingredient across and the skin on the penis is one of the most sensitive areas on the body.
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Cheeky Monkey Did you hold the Vaseline + Vitamine C ?:LOL:
 
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sns8778 said:
Thank you for the kind words.

We definitely have a lot of exciting things coming soon and are planning out a tentative new release lineup for Q4 of this year and Q1 of next year.

I think and hope that you'll love the Optimize-T and Anacyclus XT stack. I look forward to hearing your results.
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I used about 6-7 bottles of Optimize T when it first came out, but haven’t used your Anacyclus. It should be fun!! Looking forward to continued success for you!
 
Oliver Kween said:
Do you try some of this supplements like :

  • 4-amino-3-phenylbutyric acid: AKA Phenibut. may aid in better sleep, stress loss, and fatigue relief.†
  • Gamma aminobutyric acid: may produce a calming effect and may help with anxiety and stress.†
  • L-Phenylalanine: may help better your mood.†
Mela is not mandatory In the sense that you may be sensitive to it. I trust @sns in its productions, I said in another post, that I dropped other brands (except for APEX BlackLion and CEL) to only look on its side for most supplements, Opti-T and Anacyle. I will soon order more and make my collection !
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Nah bro haven’t tried any of those, phenibut is addictive isn’t it ?
 
hipnfit said:
Alright! Let's go! Summer of Supplements, baby.. I'm super stacking SNS style, but i'm game to add more to the Going Big or bust summer of

Opt-T, Anabolic Effect, X-Gels, Epi-Plex, Api-Plex, LeanEdge, TTA, MitoBurn XT
M-Test would be in there, but done sold out.

Can you overstack? ;-)
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yes and no .. If $ wasnt an issue yeah i would run that stack too lol

Lean Edge + AE for entire year w/ OPT-T or M-Test or both would have you feeling amazing each day :)
 
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