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my next blast

jtbull

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Ok guys. Been on trt if you had seen other posts going on three years. Couple test only cycles and third mixed compound cycle.

Bloods were good. Like many on gear I do get some high hemoglobin bug give blood usually takes care of it. ALso going to be adding fish oil like 1200mg per day with dinner. Anyone got other idea on fish oil let me know.

I have one bottle of cel cycle assist then will be using piana 5% duration of cycle not just with orals if anyone knows something bad about that again please share. I did notice some blood numbers on my last cycle ( ran lgd 10 for 50 days)

Now like many i do have high BP its managed and not like at a dangerous level and my trt doc is not even close to worried about it. have long had high tryclgerides

SO this is what i am thinking as i have to plan it around a twice yearlty trt test that the testosterone level needs to come in under 1000k so the damn PA and nurses do not flip out.

So I have to double check the calander but cycle will likely be longer than 15 weeks which is my typical run. It might stretch 20 but only 16 will be compounds other than test. if I have a couple extra weeks i will just do some extra trt. Bloods will be 10/6or 10/7/22

PLease advise on a time just to use my trt dose ( 150 mg a week ) as my understanding is with eq, sust, deca that often 6 weeks numbers should be good? Now some have said 8. I know there is a calculttor but i think its out of date

So here goes the cycle not any extra test only weeks of the blast as 1-4 max

Note on testosterone. I have some sustananon 250 amps ( not name brand) that i will do 500mg a week then switch to 250 test e/c blend 125 of each but total amount of test will be 650 a week this run. I may up it to 750 next run.

Sometimes i do mix in same syringe but often itswith a higher concentrate so i could be doing a few pins a week

Trt whole cycle 150 test cyp a week on sunday
weeks 1-15, 500 Mg testosterone per week ( see note)
weeks 1-15 500mg eq per week. 250 each in two shots
weeks 1-10 300mg npp/deca blend ( roughly 150 of each) 1/2 cc two times a week. I am debating if i pick more up to run this longer like the whole cycle. I have ran both before but not same cycle. but will run at least 10 weeks

Prolactin i had no issues at 300mg a day might pick up inhibit P. Also taking adex 1mg twice per week. .5mg 2 x a week is my trt dose. seems to keep estrogen ok. I cant ttake much as my estrogen can get VERY LOW so that is why i am not going to take too much of the adex.

Now for the orals. Ok here is where i am not sure. OK i have 10mg of lgd 50 tabs, 100 10mg dbol tabs so a couple thoughts

I can do
50 days lgd or 25 days then immediately go to the dboll 30 days at 30 mg

If the LGD goes out of your system quick i can use it when the cycle ends while i am waiting for the bloods to work and do the dbol 30mg a day 33 days start or end of cycle

Do lgd or dboll at either 10mg for50 days 20mg for 25 days and dboll at 30mg for 33 days one at the start of the cycle and hte other at the end

Thoughts guys? particularly on time from the end of injectables until trt bloods and my oral sarm/steroid protocol.


GH type

I likely will not have it by the time thecycle starts. I have very serioulsly been thinking 90 days ( about max i can afford )3 iu a day of gh, but least likely option

thougth of ghrp 6 or ghrp 2 for as much of hte cycle as i can depending on when i get it. SOme places ship differently

Also thought of mk677 20-25(depending on source) for most of cycle. I planned to have it before it started but it did not work out that way. Now my understanding is if i run gh or one of of these gh type products for 16 weeks but say dont start still cycle week 4 taht it does not effect my testosterone level when they check my total t
 
I gotta be honest, you have so much going on in that post that every time I get to a new paragraph I forget what the last paragraph was about. I'm gonna throw out a couple things that caught my attention.
1. Your testosterone dosage is unclear. Are you saying you're going to be taking your regular 150 mg per week of test cyp and then adding an additional 500 mg of sustanon on top of it? Really dosent make any sense. Testosterone is testosterone. Save the cyp. Take the sust at the desired dose.
Also, with sust your gonna wanna stop pinning about 6 weeks before bloodwork if you want your levels back in range. That dosent mean stop the sust and keep pinning 150mg of cyp. Your levels will never come down in time if you keep adding each week. Your gonna want to stop all testosterone for about 6 weeks prior to bloods. Even on just test cyp it takes me a month to get from 500mg back down to my 150mg numbers.

Il have to go back and read your post again because I forgot the rest lol
 
Smont said:
I gotta be honest, you have so much going on in that post that every time I get to a new paragraph I forget what the last paragraph was about. I'm gonna throw out a couple things that caught my attention.
1. Your testosterone dosage is unclear. Are you saying you're going to be taking your regular 150 mg per week of test cyp and then adding an additional 500 mg of sustanon on top of it? Really dosent make any sense. Testosterone is testosterone. Save the cyp. Take the sust at the desired dose.
Also, with sust your gonna wanna stop pinning about 6 weeks before bloodwork if you want your levels back in range. That dosent mean stop the sust and keep pinning 150mg of cyp. Your levels will never come down in time if you keep adding each week. Your gonna want to stop all testosterone for about 6 weeks prior to bloods. Even on just test cyp it takes me a month to get from 500mg back down to my 150mg numbers.

Il have to go back and read your post again because I forgot the rest lol
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Total test during the cycle will be 600mg. Sorry. Kind of new to this and not anyone in person so help guide me.


i have ALMOST NEVER been totally off trt after blasts so it sounds like i might need to take longer as i feel like **** the one time a female PA saw high numbers ( purely from trt at 200mg) and she made a decision to pull me off. Doc was PISSED but since then i have been on cycles and i had not stopped the 150 trt. Last cycle was not sust but i think i had 6 weeks after last non trt pin and i came in ok. But If you think i might need more weeks cools as My understanding is the EQ will increase my total t on my bloodwork.
 
Keep in mind...red blood cell lifespan is about 120 days. EQ will tend to increase RBC and the like. It is likely you'll be seeing the effects of EQ, even if only on bloodwork, for approx 4 months after your last dose.
 
I'm going suggest a different approach because when your messing with cycles and still need to show trt levels to your Dr there's a lot of things you shouldn't really mess with if your truly trying to play it safe.

Get rid of sustanon, eq and deca. There the longest acting gear that you can run and what you should be doing is taking things that are easy to get out your system.

Things I would recommend someone choose from in your situation

More test cyp
Test prop
Mast prop
Npp
Those things should make up the beef of your cycle because you can pull the short esters on 2-3 weeks notice and be back in range for bloods.

Even on test cyp and mast e you could stop injecting for a month and then week 5 start pinning your 150 again and be ok

Orals the last 4-6 weeks of your cycle, stopping them about 2-3 weeks before bloodwork just to make sure your health markers aren't still out of whack

If you want something to add to that you got gh, sarms peptides and all that. Again I would cut them 2 weeks out
 
Theoretically you could bump your cyp up to 300, add 300 npp and 300 mast prop and that alone is going to be a massive difference over your trt. Drop everything 3 weeks before bloodwork and gtg
 
Thanks man. SOunds good. One bad thing is I already have the sust and eq. Dont plan on getting them again for this exact reason though. I am geussing 8 weeks befroe bloods? Now last cycle i did run out of eq at week 8 and used the deca/npp300 blend the last 7 weeks and I did come in where i needed to be. Very important to note i only have 10 weeks of sustonan so i wil be going to a blend of cypionate and enanthate 250 ( 125 each) I heaer good things about mast but man i am worried bout my hair but no issues so far.

I know with the trt its pretty damn hard and i like your idea i am thinking npp/test and jsut up the test in the future but got a great deal on teh eq so i figure i might start using htat earlier so i get plenty of time to clear out the system.

Is that steroid calc or any of them worth a damn to count it up. NONE Of my other numbers raise a issue with my doc. He said just keep my total T under 1000 and we are good my trt dose usually puts me at high 800s low 900s and i often only shoot 100mg the week before of TRT

Thanks man i do appreciate it so do both orals as finishers? been hearing that more and more but seems that many had said use a starter for them.
 
jtbull said:
Thanks man. SOunds good. One bad thing is I already have the sust and eq. Dont plan on getting them again for this exact reason though. I am geussing 8 weeks befroe bloods? Now last cycle i did run out of eq at week 8 and used the deca/npp300 blend the last 7 weeks and I did come in where i needed to be. Very important to note i only have 10 weeks of sustonan so i wil be going to a blend of cypionate and enanthate 250 ( 125 each) I heaer good things about mast but man i am worried bout my hair but no issues so far.

I know with the trt its pretty damn hard and i like your idea i am thinking npp/test and jsut up the test in the future but got a great deal on teh eq so i figure i might start using htat earlier so i get plenty of time to clear out the system.

Is that steroid calc or any of them worth a damn to count it up. NONE Of my other numbers raise a issue with my doc. He said just keep my total T under 1000 and we are good my trt dose usually puts me at high 800s low 900s and i often only shoot 100mg the week before of TRT

Thanks man i do appreciate it so do both orals as finishers? been hearing that more and more but seems that many had said use a starter for them.
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For the Orals, starter or finisher thing. It's like this, steroids work, there is never a time you're going to add an oral steroid that it's not going to work. The reason why people have gotten away from using orals in the beginning of your cycle is because it messes with your health markers and after 4 to 6 weeks on orals in the beginning of your cycle now your health is in the gutter and the whole remainder of your cycle is less effective because the less healthy you are the less muscle you're going to build. Also when you start your cycle with an oral now the beginning of your cycle was the most powerful part of your entire cycle and the whole rest of the cycle is going to be weaker which is going to make it harder to build muscle in the later half of your cycle.

When you do it the opposite way and start with your injectables and then say 6 to 8 weeks down the road your progress starts to stall you throw in your oral and now it kicks the gains back up again
 
Also, fish oil....
The milligrams of actual fish oil doesn't really mean anything, you need to find out how much EPA and DHA is in each capsule. You want 2000-3000mg of epa and DHA per day. And that's the recommendation for the average person not a bodybuilder or someone looks in for maximal performance enhancing benefits. Shoot for 3000mg EPA/DHA per day
 
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