Best way to cycle MK677

ts.benson

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Hey guys, New to this site so not sure how many people will see this but anyway....

I have been researching mk677 for a while now and I am finding too many answers that come close to answering my questions but not really nailing them on the head or some answers are 50/50 divided between some people saying it does this while others say it doesn't. Some background info on me (if it helps are) Im 21, gym 5-6 days a week (7 if possible) am also partaking in pretty intense cardio training 3 days a week that usually goes 2-3 hours each session. My main questions are.....

Best way to cycle and dosage (is a 5 days on 2 days off / 4 days on 2 days off cycle required)
Best way to combat possible insulin sensitivity (is taking Berberine along with MK enough to combat it)
Sex life / libido either sky rockets or goes to ****?

Just hoping someone can help guide me a bit with this / maybe share some insight to their personal experiences with the compound
 
ts.benson said:
Hey guys, New to this site so not sure how many people will see this but anyway....

I have been researching mk677 for a while now and I am finding too many answers that come close to answering my questions but not really nailing them on the head or some answers are 50/50 divided between some people saying it does this while others say it doesn't. Some background info on me (if it helps are) Im 21, gym 5-6 days a week (7 if possible) am also partaking in pretty intense cardio training 3 days a week that usually goes 2-3 hours each session. My main questions are.....

Best way to cycle and dosage (is a 5 days on 2 days off / 4 days on 2 days off cycle required)
Best way to combat possible insulin sensitivity (is taking Berberine along with MK enough to combat it)
Sex life / libido either sky rockets or goes to ****?

Just hoping someone can help guide me a bit with this / maybe share some insight to their personal experiences with the compound
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So il preface this by saying in a rep for maresearchchems and that's the mk I used most. I actually used it long before I was a rep for ma research and I don't believe I've used it since I've been a rep but anyways.

I've used it every way I can think of and they all produce similar results. So the best way is going to be whatever way works the best for you meaning whatever is the easiest for you to remember.

I typically like to tell ppl to stick with 5 on 2 off.

Use a gda with your higher carb meal and before bed. Eat lower carbs on the days your not taking mk.

I also wanted to say that if your goal is building muscle then working out 6-7 days a week is counter productive. 5 days tops if you wanna grow. When you're in the gym you are tearing muscles down not building them up. It's your rest days when you're recovering and growing.

Back to the mk and gda, I like berberine and cinnamon as my 2 basic gda.

If you haven't picked up your mk yet
My 15% off code is - smont

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Something else that a lot of ppl don't mention is gw or carderine. It's extremely effective at controlling your blood sugar and I find it works similar to a little metformin. I like 10mg before bed
 
I've been taking 30mg MK-677 since February 1 every single day. I've put on a lot of mass though I'm sure half of it is water weight. Strength is definitely up; sleep is good. I don't know if my insulin is affected....I mean I'm hungrier than usual but not a glutton. Sex life/libido has not been affected in any way.
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
I've been taking 30mg MK-677 since February 1 every single day. I've put on a lot of mass though I'm sure half of it is water weight. Strength is definitely up; sleep is good. I don't know if my insulin is affected....I mean I'm hungrier than usual but not a glutton. Sex life/libido has not been affected in any way.
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Get a glucose monitor $25

It would really suck if 6 months down the road you found out that you're becoming a diabetic
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
I take Astaxanthin. It's supposed to be good for glucose metabolism.
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It doesn't really matter because you're still completely guessing. It absolutely is a possibility to become diabetic with mk677, especially at the dose your taking and daily use.

I'm not even slightly exaggerating.
 
I'm not saying that everyone needs to run out and get a glucose monitor, but if your taking 20+mg of mk daily for any extended period of time you should be monitoring your blood glucose
 
Smont said:
I'm not saying that everyone needs to run out and get a glucose monitor, but if your taking 20+mg of mk daily for any extended period of time you should be monitoring your blood glucose
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OK, will do.
By the way, should I reduce my dosage and do 5 days on/2 days on in the meantime to offset any insulin issues?
 
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Cheeky Monkey said:
OK, will do.
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I'm not trying to come off as a dick, I just want ppl to know the risk is real.

I also think you could drop down to 20mg, 5 days on 2 days off and have the exact same results. Lower your risks and stretch your bottle of mk out twice as long
 
biggestjock said:
Any real world cases of becoming diabetic with mk?
it seems to me that it is only a thing that could in theory happen.

I once took mk for 8 months straight, 10mg.
then many times for a few months.

I stop when I'm too bothered with the water retention.

I don't think you need to cycle it.
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There's no theory at all, I've see plenty of ppl Jack there glucose up on mk, I've had mine over 200.

Just because you used it for a long time doesn't mean that your numbers were not jacked up half that time if you weren't checking them.

It's a absolutely undeniable fact that mk "has the ability" to do this. Doesn't mean that it's going to do it but it absolutely is a possibility.

And it's not far fetched at all
 
biggestjock said:
Any real world cases of becoming diabetic with mk?
it seems to me that it is only a thing that could in theory happen.

I once took mk for 8 months straight, 10mg.
then many times for a few months.

I stop when I'm too bothered with the water retention.

I don't think you need to cycle it.
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This is one of the biggest problems on this forum. Ppl coming in saying I did this, and I think this and I don't think that and so on.

There's a massive difference in thinking something and knowing something.

Just because you did something and got away with it does not make it a good idea. Sooner or later you won't get away with it.

I'm not specifically talking about mk and I'm not specifically talking about you.

I'm talking about this forum as a whole. That goes for pretty much everything performance enhancing. If you guess your way through this stuff sooner or later something bad's going to happen. And if you advice people based on your guesses then sooner or later something bad might happened to the person you're giving "advice" to.
 
One last thing I want you guys to keep in mind,

I'm a rep for ma, me saying you can take lower doses of mk and don't need to dose it daily so you can stretch your product and lower side effects is completely counter productive to me being a rep.

If I wasn't concerned with helping ppl and making sure they were doing things right I would tell you to take the maximum dose of mk every single day so that you had to buy as much as you could and therefore I'd get a kickback.

But I'm not doing that, I'm telling you to use less.

Get what I'm saying ...
 
Smont said:
I'm not trying to come off as a dick, I just want ppl to know the risk is real.

I also think you could drop down to 20mg, 5 days on 2 days off and have the exact same results. Lower your risks and stretch your bottle of mk out twice as long
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Hey no worries bro. It's best time be safe than sorry. I'll get my sugar test done soon and post up results.
 
Smont said:
So il preface this by saying in a rep for maresearchchems and that's the mk I used most. I actually used it long before I was a rep for ma research and I don't believe I've used it since I've been a rep but anyways.

I've used it every way I can think of and they all produce similar results. So the best way is going to be whatever way works the best for you meaning whatever is the easiest for you to remember.

I typically like to tell ppl to stick with 5 on 2 off.

Use a gda with your higher carb meal and before bed. Eat lower carbs on the days your not taking mk.

I also wanted to say that if your goal is building muscle then working out 6-7 days a week is counter productive. 5 days tops if you wanna grow. When you're in the gym you are tearing muscles down not building them up. It's your rest days when you're recovering and growing.

Back to the mk and gda, I like berberine and cinnamon as my 2 basic gda.

If you haven't picked up your mk yet
My 15% off code is - smont

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Something else that a lot of ppl don't mention is gw or carderine. It's extremely effective at controlling your blood sugar and I find it works similar to a little metformin. I like 10mg before bed
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Cheers man for the advice seems like you know your stuff, another question ive seen a fair few people post elsewhere saying that only taking 10 - 12.5mg a day has gained them results and I would assume taking it at a lower dose like that would decrease the effect of potential sides? any thoughts on this?
 
ts.benson said:
Cheers man for the advice seems like you know your stuff, another question ive seen a fair few people post elsewhere saying that only taking 10 - 12.5mg a day has gained them results and I would assume taking it at a lower dose like that would decrease the effect of potential sides? any thoughts on this?
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From everything i have seen 12.5-25mg produced similar results. The results go downhill lower than 12.5 mg and they don't get any better above 25 mg. I'm basing that off my first hand experience and the experience of people I know. I've also seen others on the forum report similar findings
 
Start with 12.5mg 5x week and see what happens.

5 on 2 off
8 on 4 off
3 on 1 off
7 days a week.

They all produced similar results in GH and igf-1 levels. The numbers seem to stay elevated for about 5-8 days after I stopped taking it too.

This is all in the realm of research purposes of course. Sarms and peptides are not for human consumption .....

Research responsibly 😁
 
Sweet yeah I have noticed similar reporting and findings also just on the benefits side, along with the muscle gain and sleep, ive noticed people saying that their overall mood is better and skin and hair have benefited, also with the company you rep for do they ship to Australia?
 
ts.benson said:
Sweet yeah I have noticed similar reporting and findings also just on the benefits side, along with the muscle gain and sleep, ive noticed people saying that their overall mood is better and skin and hair have benefited, also with the company you rep for do they ship to Australia?
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Sorry, US and Canada only as far as I know.

Just make sure you do your research and find a reputable company that ships to Australia.

@cheftepesh1

Does supreme ship to Australia?
 
Legend, yeah ive done a lot of research and have found one company that seems to have legit products have also been told by a friend who has tried their sarms and has said they have produced good results but any recommendations are very welcome
 
ts.benson said:
Legend, yeah ive done a lot of research and have found one company that seems to have legit products have also been told by a friend who has tried their sarms and has said they have produced good results but any recommendations are very welcome
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I wouldn't just go by "they gave results" because a company could be spiking the sarms with prohormones. Prohormones are cheap and powerful so it's easy to replace a sarm with a prohormone that cost 1/3 of the price and drive your profit margins to the roof. Get what I'm saying.

I shouldn't even be calling them prohormones because technically their designers steroids. But I think he understand what I'm getting at
 
Legend, yeah ive done a lot of research and have found one company that seems to have legit products have also been told by a friend who has tried their sarms and has said they have produced good results but any recommendations are very welcome
 
Smont said:
Sorry, US and Canada only as far as I know.

Just make sure you do your research and find a reputable company that ships to Australia.

@cheftepesh1

Does supreme ship to Australia?
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No. Shipping is rough out of the country
 
Yeah ive heard a lot of that as well companies just shoving their stock full of stuff that does get you results but will potentially harm you more than actually doing the sarm in a pure form, will be on the lookout for that but keeping diet clean and carb free as possible also with a gda and consistent cardio as well should keep blood sugar levels and insulin sensitivity issues regulated.
 
biggestjock said:
I've never read about a single case of diabetes or even glucose issues with mk.
it's only a stretch from what it could potentially do from it's mechanism of action.
in practice it is fine.

it exists since the end of 20th century, there has been long term studies on humans with it ... diabetes from mk, afaik, is a myth
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Ok bud
 
biggestjock said:
I've never read about a single case of diabetes or even glucose issues with mk.
it's only a stretch from what it could potentially do from it's mechanism of action.
in practice it is fine.

it exists since the end of 20th century, there has been long term studies on humans with it ... diabetes from mk, afaik, is a myth
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Aren't you the guy that was making posts about sticking needles in your dick.......

Please no1 listen to this idiot

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Cheeky Monkey said:
I've been taking 30mg MK-677 since February 1 every single day. I've put on a lot of mass though I'm sure half of it is water weight. Strength is definitely up; sleep is good. I don't know if my insulin is affected....I mean I'm hungrier than usual but not a glutton. Sex life/libido has not been affected in any way.
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that's a heavy and long dose :o
 
So if anyone is interested, I'm not going to site a bunch of studies here but all you need to do is Google mk677 and diabetes.

There's plenty of things that come up and show the potential risks.

Notable was pancreatic beta cell degeneration leading to type 2 diabetes and there are plenty of ppl who posted there bloodwork on mk and a few of them showing that there glucose numbers put them into diabetic range.

I'm not trying to scare anyone off from mk and I'm not saying your going to get diabetes from mk. I'm just trying to let ppl know there is potential for it to happen and weather it's going to happen to you or not I don't know, but the potential risks can easily be avoided by keeping a eye on your blood sugar
 
Smont said:
So if anyone is interested, I'm not going to site a bunch of studies here but all you need to do is Google mk677 and diabetes.

There's plenty of things that come up and show the potential risks.

Notable was pancreatic beta cell degeneration leading to type 2 diabetes and there are plenty of ppl who posted there bloodwork on mk and a few of them showing that there glucose numbers put them into diabetic range.

I'm not trying to scare anyone off from mk and I'm not saying your going to get diabetes from mk. I'm just trying to let ppl know there is potential for it to happen and weather it's going to happen to you or not I don't know, but the potential risks can easily be avoided by keeping a eye on your blood sugar
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Was just wondering what would you keep you carb intake at on mk677 with pda and everything else already mentioned?
 
ts.benson said:
Was just wondering what would you keep you carb intake at on mk677 with pda and everything else already mentioned?
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I wouldn't necessarily change my carbs intake at all, I would move things around, just take a gda with my higher carb meals and I would line up my low carb days with the days I'm not taking mk.

I have a glucose monitor so In the past I've learned what does and does not spike my sugar or what will bring it back down.

So say I'm eating 250 gm of carbs per day divided equally among 5 meals

I might use my gda on each meal except post workout.

Or I could eliminate carbs from my first 2 meals,
Eat all my carbs pre intra and post workout and use a gda with my last 2 meals bring my sugar back down.

Without a glucose monitor your guessing, so if I didn't have a monitor and wasn't willing to get one then I would eat a lower carb diet to be safe, not a keto diet, just keeping my carbs in the lower side. Maybe 30-50gm with my pre workout meal and 50-100gm post workout. Then before bed take my gda.

I don't want my supplements to dictate my diet, I want to use supplements to help my diet work better.

Your diet is 100's of times more important to your results then mk677 is going to be.
Even on steroids your diet is still most important.

If you look around this forum and other forums there's no shortage of ppl unhappy with the results of there cycles and it's because of there diets
 
for me I had to pump the breaks on 677 dose mostly for water retention concerns. I was chugging so much water and barely peeing any. not really sure what to think of it. taking a few days off and not doing more than 12mg at a time
 
Kronic said:
that's a heavy and long dose :eek:
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Im getting my blood test done today for cholesterol and sugar. I'll post my results when I get them. In the meantime Im taking Smonts advice and cutting back to 15mg per day for 5 days on/2 days off protocol.
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
Im getting my blood test done today for cholesterol and sugar. I'll post my results when I get them. In the meantime Im taking Smonts advice and cutting back to 15mg per day for 5 days on/2 days off protocol.
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Cool, who knows, maybe everything looks perfect and you can just stick to your plan. But aside from the blood sugar thing, another reason why I recommend the lower dose and the 5/2 or 8/4 is because it still provided similar elevations in growth hormone and igf-1. So your getting more bang for your buck if the bottle last 1.5-2 times as long
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
Im getting my blood test done today for cholesterol and sugar. I'll post my results when I get them. In the meantime Im taking Smonts advice and cutting back to 15mg per day for 5 days on/2 days off protocol.
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I think you either built up a tolerance or the mk you got might be a bit weak :D
 
Kronic said:
30mg every day for me would have major sides within two weeks. I had to stop 25mg with days off after 12 days or something. 12mg seems to be good but I still am feeling it out
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Oh, got ya. That's going to be completely user dependent. Some guys get water retention some don't, some guys get better sleep some guys get worse sleep, everyone should get a increase in glucose numbers but some way more then others.

There's a lot of variables and differences person to person. Other then my sugar spike I don't really get any side effects from it. Even the hunger only lasts a day or 2 for me
 
I use the 12.5 mg 5 on 2 off, every time I start MK 677 now. I used to take the 25 mg dose, and heard Mike Arnold talking about the 12.5 dose being just as effective with less sides, and changed to his protocol about 3 years ago.And 12.5 seems almost just as effective with all the benefits and no bloat, for me. Now it does still increase my appetite but I take at night so that’s not an issue.
 
Smont said:
Cool, who knows, maybe everything looks perfect and you can just stick to your plan. But aside from the blood sugar thing, another reason why I recommend the lower dose and the 5/2 or 8/4 is because it still provided similar elevations in growth hormone and igf-1. So your getting more bang for your buck if the bottle last 1.5-2 times as long
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Hi Smont, got my blood test today. I've compared them to my last blood test which I did back in September 2021.
So again, I've been taking 30mg MK-677 everyday since February 1. My starting weight on February 1 was 205 (this was after recovering from acute appendicitis and Covid). I'm currently sitting at 238 lbs.

Sep-21Apr-22Reference Range
A1C (Glucose)5.35.3<5.7%
Today's Glucose level (fasted 12 hours)10473-118 mg/dL
Total C holestrol206174<200 mg/dL
Trigycerides5282<150 mg/dL
HDL6255> OR = 40 mg/dL
LDL130103<100 mg/dL
Cholestrol/HDL ratio3.33.2<5.0 (calc)

The only issue of concern is my blood pressure. It's a bit high at 148/88. I have indulged in a lot of unhealthy foods for the past few weeks and been stressed out of my mind due to work pressures and home life. I do lift everyday but my cardio is infrequent.
 
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gphagan1 said:
I use the 12.5 mg 5 on 2 off, every time I start MK 677 now. I used to take the 25 mg dose, and heard Mike Arnold talking about the 12.5 dose being just as effective with less sides, and changed to his protocol about 3 years ago.And 12.5 seems almost just as effective with all the benefits and no bloat, for me. Now it does still increase my appetite but I take at night so that’s not an issue.
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Just wondering if you ever got your bloods done and if so what were they like? also what was your carb intake like I can see myself doing this cycle because it seems to be the safest without having to worry insanely much about carb intake
 
I do have blood work done quite often, especially before an AAS cycle. I don’t really consider MK as a cycle, but my blood work is always good for the most part.
When I take MK it’s usually about 6 months during fall and winter, but I took low dose HGH this past year just to see how I like it.
As far as diet, on MK, I usually stick with my maintenance at 3200 calories 40/30/30 protein, carbs, fat and take SNS Glycophase with my usual supplements. It helps me hang on to muscle, especially after a cycle, usually no bloat, great sleep and then I would go into a cut to drop my body fat percentage lower before running another cycle. But I only run one cycle a year, mainly to recomp a little and hopefully be able to maintain my good health.
 
i wouldn't take that **** at all to be honest.

i was on it 6 months and besides the hunger it doesn't do anything in my opinion. not even give me diabetes, i have a glucometer (that i use only sparingly because i always have health levels whenever i try, so it feels kind of pointless after a while)
 
Drunken Master said:
i wouldn't take that **** at all to be honest.

i was on it 6 months and besides the hunger it doesn't do anything in my opinion. not even give me diabetes, i have a glucometer (that i use only sparingly because i always have health levels whenever i try, so it feels kind of pointless after a while)
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What brand did you use? I use Supreme Labs.
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
What brand did you use? I use Supreme Labs.
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i used receptorchem for 6 months, and was eating +1000 kcal and even had to hold back. then i ran out and brexit happened so i switched to brawn and suddenly the hunger stopped, even though it was supposed to be generously dosed (25mg or even 30mg a pill). so there is bunk brawn mk677 out there. receptorchem mk677 is real
 
Not sure what you were expecting out of MK677, because it’s not going to do what AAS will do. It’s more like taking a low dose of HGH, that’s why I don’t consider taking MK as a cycle. When I was saying I did one cycle a year, I was referring to AAS, usually Test with either Primo or Mast. I don’t take all the different steroids I used to, because at my age I try to keep everything within healthy ranges, even on a cycle. Typically when I’ve taken MK it’s to preserve gains after a cycle, and it helps me with recovery. But it’s not even going to do what Test will, but I feel like it has its place when someone understands it and the proper way to use it. Like I said, it helps retain muscle, can help with recovery, increase appetite on a bulk, and stacks very well with peptides, and is much more economical than HGH with similar benefits at a lower level.
Just like anything else though, some people are non responders to some compounds, but just because one guy doesn’t get something out of a compound, doesn’t mean another person will not benefit from it.
Also, there is bunk products out there. I know MA Research is legit.
 
can you guys specify what form of oral your 677 is? my theory is liquid oral is the best. mine is super strong
 
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