Wife Has COVID-19

[Hyde]

We took my son to the pediatrician for his 1 year checkup the other day. 3 out of 4 of their fully vaccinated/boosted doctors were forced to stay home with COVID currently.

Doc also said that they saw 60 kids the day prior, and virtually all of them were testing positive (and had very very mild symptoms).

 

[Kronic]

I'm still no symptoms gang

 

[Dustin07]

I'm still no symptoms gang

I truly don't think I'd have any awareness to COVID at all in the past 2 years if the media/govt/politicians didn't cling to it so tight. and that's despite having had it.

 

[rob112]

We took my son to the pediatrician for his 1 year checkup the other day. 3 out of 4 of their fully vaccinated/boosted doctors were forced to stay home with COVID currently.

Doc also said that they saw 60 kids the day prior, and virtually all of them were testing positive (and had very very mild symptoms).

All three of my kids got it and it was literally like a bad cold. They could take medicine and then like 20 minutes later play and run around the house.

The fact that some people(I know a few) who scare their kids into thinking they are in danger at all times they leave their house is pretty much psychological abuse IMO. My one daughters friend asked her about Covid Bc she has those types of parents and she told her it wasn’t that bad and the little girl was surprised. Her parents convinced her they were getting her vaccinated as a present. Insane.

 

[Ricky10]

I was listening to someone explain how their belief was omnicron was more upper respiratory which is a good thing. Only downside at least for me was such a terrible sore throat. Amazingly I got prescription steroids for it and it went away quickly. Also explains why I never had any type of feeling like my lungs were filling up and I would need any serious medical care.

The downside is apparently this version spreads at the level of measles so many will get it. Like I said I’m up to 14 people who have gotten it from Christmas. I don’t even think it is completely done a couple of the houses. Crazy how contagious it is. It seems if this one wasn’t so contagious it would probably be relatively easy on the hospitals.

Final thought is since this version seems so different than the last couple it could be possible the shot is not totally geared to stop it. From my first hand with omnicron and a bunch of family of all ages I would, well at least hope, that very few people would need serious treatment and those that do would likely be much older or have health issues.

Hopefully it gets better for you soon Rocket. You’re in a tough profession for times when **** hits the fan.

Yeah, every day that passes I just hear about more and more people getting exponentially infected in and out of the hospital. Only 3 RT’s out of ~ 25 in my hospital thus far since the pandemic started, but we have 4-5 ICU nurses out this week due to infection, and I’m sure many others that I just haven’t specifically heard about. That’s not good at all, and sh*t is definitely about to hit the fan with less staff accompanying more admissions even though they are less ill.

The general public needs to step up and take it upon themselves to try and make efforts to slow the spread…even small things. Obviously most people don’t care enough (or at all) to do that, so healthcare personnel will continue taking the brunt of the battle for everyone. Nothing new there.

Today wasn’t overly busy for me as RT was fully staffed, but I still didn’t have time to even count the number of COVID patients today. I did have the ED today and the most notable patient was a middle aged Down Syndrome patient (our second). His caregiver said ”neither of us got vaccinated because every time we got the flu vaccine, we ended up getting the flu”

He was on 90% High Flow oxygen upon entering the door and the caregiver agreed to intubation. The ED provider and I were happy with where he was because we were simply too tired of going through the same old sh*t again for something that really won’t significantly increase his chances of survival anyway. I’m advocating for morphine drips when anyone requires anything more than 2L of oxygen these days.

Rocket

We took my son to the pediatrician for his 1 year checkup the other day. 3 out of 4 of their fully vaccinated/boosted doctors were forced to stay home with COVID currently.

Doc also said that they saw 60 kids the day prior, and virtually all of them were testing positive (and had very very mild symptoms).

Those pediatricians don’t stand a chance against a bombardment of positive kids. Are they not in full PPE and pre screening for symptoms? Sad that all the other kids who might need more routine care may not be able to be seen for quite some time if they don’t implement some standards quickly. And apparently try to get help in the meantime.

I truly don't think I'd have any awareness to COVID at all in the past 2 years if the media/govt/politicians didn't cling to it so tight. and that's despite having had it.

True dat..

 

[rob112]

Yeah, every day that passes I just hear about more and more people getting exponentially infected in and out of the hospital. Only 3 RT’s out of ~ 25 in my hospital thus far since the pandemic started, but we have 4-5 ICU nurses out this week due to infection, and I’m sure many others that I just haven’t specifically heard about. That’s not good at all, and sh*t is definitely about to hit the fan with less staff accompanying more admissions even though they are less ill.

The general public needs to step up and take it upon themselves to try and make efforts to slow the spread…even small things. Obviously most people don’t care enough (or at all) to do that, so healthcare personnel will continue taking the brunt of the battle for everyone. Nothing new there.

Today wasn’t overly busy for me as RT was fully staffed, but I still didn’t have time to even count the number of COVID patients today. I did have the ED today and the most notable patient was a middle aged Down Syndrome patient (our second). His caregiver said ”neither of us got vaccinated because every time we got the flu vaccine, we ended up getting the flu”

He was on 90% High Flow oxygen upon entering the door and the caregiver agreed to intubation. The ED provider and I were happy with where he was because we were simply too tired of going through the same old sh*t again for something that really won’t significantly increase his chances of survival anyway. I’m advocating for morphine drips when anyone requires anything more than 2L of oxygen these days.

Rocket

Those pediatricians don’t stand a chance against a bombardment of positive kids. Are they not in full PPE and pre screening for symptoms? Sad that all the other kids who might need more routine care may not be able to be seen for quite some time if they don’t implement some standards quickly. And apparently try to get help in the meantime.

True dat..

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Well they said this version albeit more mild is much more infectious. I truly believe if we had early treatments or at the very least a healthier population this would not be as bad. For developed countries we are like the worst as far as average age of death and by far and away the worst for deaths per 100,000. I wish that people would have taken this time to get healthier. I know that would not save everyone but I think the culture that promotes “healthy at any weight” is susceptible to bad outcomes during Covid.

It would be nice if there was a way to help people like yourself get help at work while simultaneously not sacrificing our youth, economy, and way of life.

 

[beefyfan]

Well they sad this version albeit more mild is much more infectious. I truly believe if we had early treatments or at the very least a healthier population this would not be as bad. For developed countries we are like the worst as far as average age of death and by far and away the worst for deaths per 100,000. I wish that people would have taken this time to get healthier. I know that would not save everyone but I think the culture that promotes “healthy at any weight” is susceptible to bad outcomes during Covid.

It would be nice if there was a way to help people like yourself get help at work while simultaneously not sacrificing our youth, economy, and way of life.

I seem to remember the right wing losing their collective **** when Michelle Obama started her "lets move" campaign and wanted to take soda out of schools. Can't have it both ways.

 

[rob112]

I seem to remember the right wing losing their collective **** when Michelle Obama started her "lets move" campaign and wanted to take soda out of schools. Can't have it both ways.

Yea I heard about that but to be honest I don’t know it too well because Bush made me really dislike the federal government, but everything was pretty good if I just ignored it and the evil it committed(now I wonder should I have). I barely paid too deep of attention in the moment from him until mid way through Trump when I noticed a sect of people from academia willing to go for power at all cost. At this point having three kids and seeing a lot of terrible signs when compared to history I then felt like I had to pay attention. I would prefer to feel comfortable stopping completely haha

But yea about Obama I got after the fact stuff good and bad like bad: bail out the elites, increases Bush’s war efforts, etc and good: let go some non-violent offenders with hefty sentences and say STOP GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH in the states.

I’ve heard conflicting info on the lunch program and on why it failed. Most of what you see from the average person “rah rah your team sucks my team rules.” It’s exhausting to listen to for me. I don’t feel comfortable saying one way or the other if the program was executed well or terribly.

 

[Dustin07]

True dat..

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You've been on my mind a lot lately because of exactly this. zero doubt your perspective is going to be affected by the fact that you're in the depth of it it on a daily basis in the same way that my perspective is affected because I see none of it, in fact I've only seen injuries from vax in my real life social circle but nothing from the rona itself.

 

[Hyde]

Yeah, every day that passes I just hear about more and more people getting exponentially infected in and out of the hospital. Only 3 RT’s out of ~ 25 in my hospital thus far since the pandemic started, but we have 4-5 ICU nurses out this week due to infection, and I’m sure many others that I just haven’t specifically heard about. That’s not good at all, and sh*t is definitely about to hit the fan with less staff accompanying more admissions even though they are less ill.

The general public needs to step up and take it upon themselves to try and make efforts to slow the spread…even small things. Obviously most people don’t care enough (or at all) to do that, so healthcare personnel will continue taking the brunt of the battle for everyone. Nothing new there.

Today wasn’t overly busy for me as RT was fully staffed, but I still didn’t have time to even count the number of COVID patients today. I did have the ED today and the most notable patient was a middle aged Down Syndrome patient (our second). His caregiver said ”neither of us got vaccinated because every time we got the flu vaccine, we ended up getting the flu”

He was on 90% High Flow oxygen upon entering the door and the caregiver agreed to intubation. The ED provider and I were happy with where he was because we were simply too tired of going through the same old sh*t again for something that really won’t significantly increase his chances of survival anyway. I’m advocating for morphine drips when anyone requires anything more than 2L of oxygen these days.

Rocket

Those pediatricians don’t stand a chance against a bombardment of positive kids. Are they not in full PPE and pre screening for symptoms? Sad that all the other kids who might need more routine care may not be able to be seen for quite some time if they don’t implement some standards quickly. And apparently try to get help in the meantime.

True dat..

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Definitely no extra PPE, but I’m sure they have already blown past the point of no return - they know everyone at the office is just going to get it and be back 5 days after symptoms start.

 

[Dustin07]

Starbucks nixes vaccine mandate after Supreme Court ruling

Starbucks’ reversal is among the most high-profile corporate actions since the court blocked the Biden administration’s Covid requirements for businesses.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[thebigt]

Starbucks nixes vaccine mandate after Supreme Court ruling

Starbucks’ reversal is among the most high-profile corporate actions since the court blocked the Biden administration’s Covid requirements for businesses.

www.nbcnews.com

starbucks probably doesn't pay that well, i expect it is hard enough to get workers without eliminating those who haven't got the vaccine?

 

[thebigt]

Definitely no extra PPE, but I’m sure they have already blown past the point of no return - they know everyone at the office is just going to get it and be back 5 days after symptoms start.

i wonder how the immunity from getting covid works if you have gotten the vaccine?

in other words is my natural immunity better than someone who gets the vaccine and then gets covid?

my wife and i both got covid around march with only minor symptoms and have been around numerous people who have tested positive for covid...my wife is 64 and i am 63.

 

[thebigt]

Definitely no extra PPE, but I’m sure they have already blown past the point of no return - they know everyone at the office is just going to get it and be back 5 days after symptoms start.

i am unvaxxed and when i got covid it wasn't anything but a very minor cold, same for my wife--if we hadn't got tested and came back positive we would have just thought we had really minor cold that only lasted for around 3 days....we had covid in march going on 11 months ago and we have been around several people who have tested positive that we know tested positive, and most likely many others who either didn't know they had it or didn't give a f*ck about spreading it.

there is a percentage of people in our society who are just plain asses...i remember when aids 1st came out there was a percentage of aids carriers who either didn't give a crap or enjoyed spreading it around to as many as possible-the old adage misery loves company....remember aids was a death sentence back then....i have heard horror stories about things that go on with alzheimers patients in nursing homes-everyone working in medical field aren't angels-there are devils in every field-even medical.

 

[sammpedd88]

starbucks probably doesn't pay that well, i expect it is hard enough to get workers without eliminating those who haven't got the vaccine?

I think they’re averaging around $15 - $17 an hour now. Of course that’s not much, but to make a cup of coffee….it’s decent money. Definitely not a career job by any means.

 

[thebigt]

I think they’re averaging around $15 - $17 an hour now. Of course that’s not much, but to make a cup of coffee….it’s decent money. Definitely not a career job by any means.

I think they’re averaging around $15 - $17 an hour now. Of course that’s not much, but to make a cup of coffee….it’s decent money. Definitely not a career job by any means.

here in small town indiana that translates to decent money....weird how corporate businesses have flat pay scales even though cost of living varies by so much.

when i owned my lawncare business i was paying$12 starting and $15 hour after 6 months and was well above the average...tbh very happy i retired when i did, i hear it's very hard to get employees these days, everyone is on the government dole and fewer and fewer are willing to work even though pay scale for entry level has gone way up in the last few years....hiring employees is very competitive right now from what i've been hearing.

 

[Dustin07]

i wonder how the immunity from getting covid works if you have gotten the vaccine?

in other words is my natural immunity better than someone who gets the vaccine and then gets covid?

my wife and i both got covid around march with only minor symptoms and have been around numerous people who have tested positive for covid...my wife is 64 and i am 63.

My understanding is that the more vaccinated you are (1 shot vs 3+) the higher your odds of being symptomatic with omicron are. Omicron is supposedly so different from the first few strains that natural immunity and the vaccine are both sorta irrelevant to it, is my understanding.

That said, in the past weeks like most people, I've seen TONS of people test positive. all but one were vaccinated.
It's also understood that Delta is still out there, and is more severe. People are not likely being hospitalized by omicron, a cold, but are testing positive as if it was worse than it is.

 

[thebigt]

My understanding is that the more vaccinated you are (1 shot vs 3+) the higher your odds of being symptomatic with omicron are. Omicron is supposedly so different from the first few strains that natural immunity and the vaccine are both sorta irrelevant to it, is my understanding.

That said, in the past weeks like most people, I've seen TONS of people test positive. all but one were vaccinated.
It's also understood that Delta is still out there, and is more severe. People are not likely being hospitalized by omicron, a cold, but are testing positive as if it was worse than it is.

ok, i'm a big believer in natural immunity-based on my wife's and i personal experience-we have been around people who have tested positive and yet we haven't, we got covid in march of last year which i think was stronger strain versus omicron ...my question is will getting the omicron version give the same natural immunity going forward with what i suppose will be different strains than what my wife and i have????



we sent off for 4 free at home covid tests that are supposed to mail at end of january-even got email confirmation from USPS postal store..usps.com...they said only 4 per household.

covid home tests/usps---they are free

 

[Ricky10]

Definitely no extra PPE, but I’m sure they have already blown past the point of no return - they know everyone at the office is just going to get it and be back 5 days after symptoms start.

From what I have seen/heard, I don’t think the 5 day rule is going to pan out so well. People who become symptomatic with what we can presume to be an Omicron variant infection have been getting pretty darn sick and are out closer to 10 days regardless. Not to mention it’s bullsh*t guidance to begin with as the CDC even admits that people remain contagious past 5 days.

Apparently the CDC didn’t even base these guidelines upon the infectiousness of Omicron. Rather the former variants. It’s pretty f*cked up really..

Either way, I just see the shortage of healthcare workers getting worse and I suppose it’s a no win situation no matter what guidelines are set in place.

 

[thebigt]

From what I have seen/heard, I don’t think the 5 day rule is going to pan out so well. People who become symptomatic with what we can presume to be an Omicron variant infection have been getting pretty darn sick and are out closer to 10 days regardless. Not to mention it’s bullsh*t guidance to begin with as the CDC even admits that people remain contagious past 5 days.

Apparently the CDC didn’t even base these guidelines upon the infectiousness of Omicron. Rather the former variants. It’s pretty f*cked up really..

Either way, I just see the shortage of healthcare workers getting worse and I suppose it’s a no win situation no matter what guidelines are set in place.

Fauci rules-eh?

what are the rules if you are out with covid--pay wise? do you get full pay while you are out?

 

[Ricky10]

Fauci rules-eh?

what are the rules if you are out with covid--pay wise? do you get full pay while you are out?

Let’s say I test positive with a rapid tomorrow. That would apparently count as day 0….then you count 5 days.

If I am scheduled to work 3 of the next 5 days, I would get COVID pay (regular pay) for those shifts. If I were to still not feel well enough to work after day 6, I would have to use my own PTO (paid time off) hours to get paid for those shifts. I have like over 350 hours of PTO available so that’s no problem. I can rarely use it because we are always short handed. This was true even before COVID.

 

[thebigt]

Let’s say I test positive with a rapid tomorrow. That would apparently count as day 0….then you count 5 days.

If I am scheduled to work 3 of the next 5 days, I would get COVID pay (regular pay) for those shifts. If I were to still not feel well enough to work after day 6, I would have to use my own PTO (paid time off) hours to get paid for those shifts. I have like over 350 hours of PTO available so that’s no problem. I can rarely use it because we are always short handed. This was true even before COVID.

so, in other words you get 5 paid days regardless if you are feeling better or not...lets says a guy has a family and is deep in debt-if he isn't back to work in 5 days he aint getting paid?

lets suppose you have all these people who are sick with covid but if they don't come back to work after 5 days no pay, correct?

so you could potentially have symptomatic medical employees running around infecting non-covid patients who are already sick since they are at a hospital....this is fucked-up!!!

 

[rob112]

UK dropped all mandates…before the damn United States Of America wtf

Also Carhartt keeps vax mandate while Starbucks drops it…did not see that one coming.

As my grandma used to say “these hoes ain’t loyal” bless her heart

 

[rob112]

Almost forgot all over social media today was people getting positive tests on the government Covid tests using basically any liquid. Now I know this could be a troll farm or mass trolling but since there was a ton(not sure if scrubbed yet) I kinda one try it just to put it to bed. Anyone here try it?

Again before someone grips their Fauci bobble head and goes reeeee conspiracy theorist! I am super skeptical.

Jk I don’t think anyone in this thread comes off like a sensitive pearl clutcher

 

[McBurly]

From what I have seen/heard, I don’t think the 5 day rule is going to pan out so well. People who become symptomatic with what we can presume to be an Omicron variant infection have been getting pretty darn sick and are out closer to 10 days regardless. Not to mention it’s bullsh*t guidance to begin with as the CDC even admits that people remain contagious past 5 days.

Apparently the CDC didn’t even base these guidelines upon the infectiousness of Omicron. Rather the former variants. It’s pretty f*cked up really..

Either way, I just see the shortage of healthcare workers getting worse and I suppose it’s a no win situation no matter what guidelines are set in place.

First thing:
Ricky, thank you for your services. Thank you for your front line insights. Thank you for powering through long, emotionally and physically draining shifts to look after your fellow mankind.

I think they changed it to 5 days to try and minimize how shitty everything is about to get. They crunched the numbers and saw how infectious this new variant was and what would happen if 75% of the population got it in a one to two month time span what would happen to the economy, way of life, etc.

I work at a high end grocery store and over half of our staff is out with covid atm. I watched it spread from one person who had bad sniffles for a handful of days before it kicked him to the ground then suddenly to 3 and now like 30+ people have it in two weeks. Face masks are strictly enforced at work, both customer and employee, but they did not appear to do much help with this new variant.

These "supply chain" issues as they call it are really just covid outbreaks shutting down food manufacturing, transporting, stocking shelves, etc. And the disappearance of the workforce. I seriously don't understand how anybody is affording to live if they aren't working. It's like aliens kidnapped the work force. Or they all moved back in with mom and dad and are just mooching off them lol.
The store I work at has had ~40% increase in sales during this pandemic, and staffing has gone down to 25-75% (depending upon department) of what it was before covid. Now I'm starting to see people get angry and burn out from working so hard and assimilating so many other positions/jobs into their own.

I guess Sabra hummus just had an outbreak and I've been told they won't have any product until mid Feb for retailers.

I'd stock up on non perishable foods because I have a feeling the next couple months will be bumpy.

 

[kjscatch]

Our new school policy is based on the recommendation of the health department states that if you are a close contact to someone who tested positive that you can still come to school if you have no symptoms and are vaccinated amd wear a mask but if you are not vaccinated you HAVE to stay home for 5 days.

I am sure it's been discussed but it doesn't make much sense to me. Anyone wanna enlighten me on it? No need for arguements. I just someone with more knowledge than me to explain. Or maybe it doesn't make sense to anyone haha

 

[Kronic]

i wonder how the immunity from getting covid works if you have gotten the vaccine?

in other words is my natural immunity better than someone who gets the vaccine and then gets covid?

my wife and i both got covid around march with only minor symptoms and have been around numerous people who have tested positive for covid...my wife is 64 and i am 63.

it's supposed to compound your protection, but I wonder if it would make you weaker towards a different virus, like the new bird flu that showed up in China.

 

[Hyde]

so, in other words you get 5 paid days regardless if you are feeling better or not...lets says a guy has a family and is deep in debt-if he isn't back to work in 5 days he aint getting paid?

lets suppose you have all these people who are sick with covid but if they don't come back to work after 5 days no pay, correct?

so you could potentially have symptomatic medical employees running around infecting non-covid patients who are already sick since they are at a hospital....this is fucked-up!!!

You’re spot on, and that’s the truth of it - even people not in debt, if they feel good enough, are likely to return to work as soon as allowed when it’s the difference between getting paid or not. And not just doctors - I mean everyone in America.

You know how many folks don’t like to take off work when they are sick (flu, colds, whatever)! Sad truth of our culture. Many jobs I worked, the management would frown on people taking sick time even, unless you were puking. Crazy.

 

[Dustin07]

You’re spot on, and that’s the truth of it - even people not in debt, if they feel good enough, are likely to return to work as soon as allowed when it’s the difference between getting paid or not. And not just doctors - I mean everyone in America.

You know how many folks don’t like to take off work when they are sick (flu, colds, whatever)! Sad truth of our culture. Many jobs I worked, the management would frown on people taking sick time even, unless you were puking. Crazy.

To be honest I am old school like that. Keep in mind as an 80s/90s kid we grew up with non stop dayquil type advertisements. Remember DayQuils "So you can breathe better, close the deal, pick up the kids and get the promotion" type promos? If people missed work because of a cold but had no fever etc I would definitely have looked down on them like a bully trying to cull the herd. Generally speaking, I still feel that way about covid, ESPECIALLY this omicron bullshit.

 

[BOSSMAN]

Our new school policy is based on the recommendation of the health department states that if you are a close contact to someone who tested positive that you can still come to school if you have no symptoms and are vaccinated amd wear a mask but if you are not vaccinated you HAVE to stay home for 5 days.

I am sure it's been discussed but it doesn't make much sense to me. Anyone wanna enlighten me on it? No need for arguements. I just someone with more knowledge than me to explain. Or maybe it doesn't make sense to anyone haha

I think it doesn't make sense to anyone in which makes it hard to explain

 

[Hyde]

To be honest I am old school like that. Keep in mind as an 80s/90s kid we grew up with non stop dayquil type advertisements. Remember DayQuils "So you can breathe better, close the deal, pick up the kids and get the promotion" type promos? If people missed work because of a cold but had no fever etc I would definitely have looked down on them like a bully trying to cull the herd. Generally speaking, I still feel that way about covid, ESPECIALLY this omicron bullshit.

Exactly. You are part of the problem. This is ingrained in a LOT of American psychology. I am as guilty as any of falling in line with this horse crap.

We cannot have mutual expectations to not spread viruses and also expect people to come to a shared workspace, gym, etc.

 

[rob112]

I think it doesn't make sense to anyone in which makes it hard to explain

I don’t think it makes sense to anyone who prefers logic to emotions

 

[Dustin07]

Exactly. You are part of the problem. This is ingrained in a LOT of American psychology. I am as guilty as any of falling in line with this horse crap.

We cannot have mutual expectations to not spread viruses and also expect people to come to a shared workspace, gym, etc.

IDK, maybe. But if nobody went to work every time they had the sniffles, an upset tummy, their wife was pregnant, or they needed a 'mental health day', then we would not have many people left contributing to society.

 

[thebigt]

I think it doesn't make sense to anyone in which makes it hard to explain

and yet biden was bragging about exceeding expectations....i saw on social media where biden supporters were doubling down--most of them were 'yeah, but trump'...get over it!!!

we need to hold our government accountable for the stupid direction this country is taking, i am sick of those who voted for biden refusing to accept his shortcomings!!!

i have mental issues myself, and everytime my wife sees biden she says there is no doubt he has mental issues beyond the normal senility of a 79 year old.

 

[thebigt]

To be honest I am old school like that. Keep in mind as an 80s/90s kid we grew up with non stop dayquil type advertisements. Remember DayQuils "So you can breathe better, close the deal, pick up the kids and get the promotion" type promos? If people missed work because of a cold but had no fever etc I would definitely have looked down on them like a bully trying to cull the herd. Generally speaking, I still feel that way about covid, ESPECIALLY this omicron bullshit.

lol...i turned 13 in 1971, back then if you were poor you learned to work hard--or turn to a life of crime...unfortunately many of the poor kids i grew up with chose the later, it's unreal how many i grew up with are dead and many have been for quite awhile or else they have spent a very large portion of their lives locked up as career criminals...life has never been easy for poor people but the poverty was very intense back then, i am very grateful to be blessed to have escaped from what those around me fell prey to.

 

[thebigt]

IDK, maybe. But if nobody went to work every time they had the sniffles, an upset tummy, their wife was pregnant, or they needed a 'mental health day', then we would not have many people left contributing to society.

if biden's BBB plan had got passed this country would be fuckedup BIG-TIME, as it is we are in the ICU.

 

[sammpedd88]

here in small town indiana that translates to decent money....weird how corporate businesses have flat pay scales even though cost of living varies by so much.

when i owned my lawncare business i was paying$12 starting and $15 hour after 6 months and was well above the average...tbh very happy i retired when i did, i hear it's very hard to get employees these days, everyone is on the government dole and fewer and fewer are willing to work even though pay scale for entry level has gone way up in the last few years....hiring employees is very competitive right now from what i've been hearing.

Yeah it’s terrible finding people to work in just about any type of job right now. It blows me away how people expect the govt to take care of them.

On a side note….do you have issues having the VA prescribe testosterone to you? I just received approval for VA health benefits. I currently have insurance but won’t have it when I retire, so that’s why sought out VA health. Just wanted to prepare myself for any issues I may have when I tell them I’m on TRT and have been for 9 years.

 

[Hyde]

IDK, maybe. But if nobody went to work every time they had the sniffles, an upset tummy, their wife was pregnant, or they needed a 'mental health day', then we would not have many people left contributing to society.

None of those things are legitimate issues.

Do not fall prey to an all or nothing mentality - nobody likes a bitch, and nobody wants slackers making excuses for indigestion and hurt feelings. But if you are blowing yellow snot and hacking stuff up, you’re contagious. It’s not that complicated.

 

[Dustin07]

None of those things are legitimate issues.

Do not fall prey to an all or nothing mentality - nobody likes a bitch, and nobody wants slackers making excuses for indigestion and hurt feelings. But if you are blowing yellow snot and hacking stuff up, you’re contagious. It’s not that complicated.

ha fair enough, I don't necessarily disagree.
When we were kids the dr told mom send them to school unless they have a fever or are puking. I think I mostly stuck with that (or if my skin was hurting like the flu can cause)

I tend to be more pissed off lately though because to be honest with you I have a number of young millennial co-workers taking excessive amounts of time off from work when their wives have babies for no reason other than the fact that the law protects their jobs so they can now.

they aren't breast feeding, healing their lady parts, or even taking care of the kid for midnight feedings. They're just a horrible generation of workers. COVID has exasperated that in many people.

 

[Hyde]

ha fair enough, I don't necessarily disagree.
When we were kids the dr told mom send them to school unless they have a fever or are puking. I think I mostly stuck with that (or if my skin was hurting like the flu can cause)

I tend to be more pissed off lately though because to be honest with you I have a number of young millennial co-workers taking excessive amounts of time off from work when their wives have babies for no reason other than the fact that the law protects their jobs so they can now.

they aren't breast feeding, healing their lady parts, or even taking care of the kid for midnight feedings. They're just a horrible generation of workers. COVID has exasperated that in many people.

Well, that I definitely believe. The staffing crap my wife reports, idk how they keep the doors open at her business. A handful of good workers pulling most of the weight for the entire crew.

 

[thebigt]

Yeah it’s terrible finding people to work in just about any type of job right now. It blows me away how people expect the govt to take care of them.

On a side note….do you have issues having the VA prescribe testosterone to you? I just received approval for VA health benefits. I currently have insurance but won’t have it when I retire, so that’s why sought out VA health. Just wanted to prepare myself for any issues I may have when I tell them I’m on TRT and have been for 9 years.

PM coming.

 

[thebigt]

Well, that I definitely believe. The staffing crap my wife reports, idk how they keep the doors open at her business. A handful of good workers pulling most of the weight for the entire crew.

geez, i could see just a average worker who did what they were supposed to and showed up regularly, getting rapid promotions in todays workplace...average=exceptional by todays standards.

only problem is once they get promoted i see many managers working harder rather than managing and getting taken advantage of by both workers as well as corporate....IT'S A SLACKERS WORLD...i still drop in and see some of the people i used to talk to regularly at the properties i used to care for, it's a damned shame what some people get away with while others who actually give a damn get taken advantage of.

 

[Dustin07]

Well, that I definitely believe. The staffing crap my wife reports, idk how they keep the doors open at her business. A handful of good workers pulling most of the weight for the entire crew.

the only other thought I have on the subject is that 2 years ago nobody thought they were going to die from a cold...
I mean common winter conversation would have been "oh I think I caught your cold". but without any real frustration to the topic, our mindsets in that regard have shifted a lot I think.

 

[McBurly]

geez, i could see just a average worker who did what they were supposed to and showed up regularly, getting rapid promotions in todays workplace...average=exceptional by todays standards.

only problem is once they get promoted i see many managers working harder rather than managing and getting taken advantage of by both workers as well as corporate....IT'S A SLACKERS WORLD...i still drop in and see some of the people i used to talk to regularly at the properties i used to care for, it's a damned shame what some people get away with while others who actually give a damn get taken advantage of.

Everything here is 100% correct, I have already witnessed this going on.

 

[Kronic]

so is it now illegal to be a practicing doctor in the USA who is not vaccinated ?

 

[rob112]

so is it now illegal to be a practicing doctor in the USA who is not vaccinated ?

Doctors who step out of line and PRACTICE medicine now may lose everything they worked for. Funny thing is my doctor gave me an asthma medication for my sinuses. He decided the low risk medicine was worth repurposing. That WAS normal practice until the pharma tyrants showed their hand.

 

[rob112]

Hey for the guys in here who listen to Rogan I highly recommend the James Lindsay episode. It’s not covaids related, but if you want to understand what is happening critical social justice(CRT, queer theory, colonial theory, etc)wise from studying the academic papers and tracing it down to the roots which started at minimum half a century ago he is the best. I’ve read his book cynical theories, will read the one he is promoting here, and listen to his new discourses weekly.

 

[Kronic]

Doctors who step out of line and PRACTICE medicine now may lose everything they worked for. Funny thing is my doctor gave me an asthma medication for my sinuses. He decided the low risk medicine was worth repurposing. That WAS normal practice until the pharma tyrants showed their hand.

was it mantelukast? my GF just got that prescribed for a skin allergy

 

[rob112]

was it mantelukast? my GF just got that prescribed for a skin allergy

Actually yes haha

Edit: it’s spelled slightly different I just looked at the bottle but pretty sure you mean the same thing

 

[Kronic]

Actually yes haha

Edit: it’s spelled slightly different I just looked at the bottle but pretty sure you mean the same thing

ya man the side effects seem messed up. I guess some of them are even long term