Jiigzz
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I live near lots of Maori and Pacific Islanders. I have all my life.
Donald Trump running for president
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I live near lots of Maori and Pacific Islanders. I have all my life.
Jiigzz
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Maybe you could read more Fox news and find more ways how it is you, the White American who is truly the victim
ax1
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The typical libtard rewrites the Constitution needed in order to promote your communist agendas.
And "welfare" as worded in 2021 does not provide welfare to the people of our country anyways, its not welfare, its just labeled welfare.
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THE FOUNDING FATHERS' EXPRESSED INTENT
REGARDING THE GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE
The founding fathers agreed that the General Welfare Clause is a
limitation on the preceding taxation clause and not its own indepen-
dent grant of power. In the first draft of the Constitution, the provi-
sion related to taxation read, "The legislature of the United States
shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and ex-
cises." 6 The clause related to general welfare was not present. If this
additional clause is not a limitation on the taxing provision and in-
stead is its own grant of power, then the preceding taxing provision is
left meaningless. Thomas Jefferson stated, "To consider the latter
phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a dis-
tinct and independent power to do any act they please, which might be
for the good of the union, would render all the preceding and subse-
quent enumerations of the power completely useless."7 Jefferson
wrote that the consequence of such an unintended meaning would
carry with it great peril, stating that this misinterpretation "would
reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a
congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the
United States; and, as they would be the sole judges of the good or
evil, it would also be a power to do whatever evil they pleased."8
Nonetheless, even understood as a limitation on the taxing power,
differences existed about the breadth of this limitation. Both prior to
the ratification of the Constitution and afterward, 9 James Madison
stated that the purpose of the General Welfare Clause is to limit
spending to only the powers specifically enumerated in the Constitu-
tion. "To understand" the General Welfare Clause "in any sense,"
James Madison explained to Congress in 1791, and not "limited and
explained by the particular enumeration subjoined," would "give to
Congress an unlimited power." 10 If Congress could tax and spend for
whatever purpose it desired, Madison argued, this "would render nu-
gatory the enumeration of particular powers" and it "would supercede
all the powers reserved to the state governments . . . ."11 Again in
1830, in a letter to Andrew Stevenson, Madison penned that the fram-
ers never "understood [the General Welfare Clause to] invest Con-
gress with powers not otherwise bestowed by the constitutional
charter."12
On January 19, 1788, prior to ratification of the Constitution,
Madison authored The FederalistNo. 41 to advocate for ratification.
In The FederalistNo. 41, Madison stated that the General Welfare
Clause refers only to other enumerated powers. He wrote, in part:
Some, who have not denied the necessity of the power of taxa-
tion, have grounded a very fierce attack against the Constitu-
tion, on the language in which it is defined. It has been urged
and echoed, that the power "to lay and collect taxes, duties,
imposts, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the
common defense and general welfare of the United States,"
amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power
which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense
or general welfare. No stronger proof could be given of the
distress under which these writers labor for objections, than
their stooping to such a misconstruction. 13
The final version of the clause - "to pay the debts and provide for
the common defence and general welfare of the United States" - states
that Congress may provide for the general welfare of the United
States. The words "the people of' do not appear in the clause. The
clause does not read "general welfare of the people of the United
States." Certainly, this omission provides support for Madison's in-
tent that the clause restrict spending to other enumerated powers
held by the United States
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thebigt
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i am done playing with you, i am getting too dizzy from all of your spin spin spin.
you have more spin than a room full of tops....i might come back to play later but for now i need to sit down-damn you make me dizzy....later spinner
Jiigzz
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The true masters of spin are those that believe Jesus is a 2A defending, immigrant hating, anti helping people Son of God who was actually a blue eyed white American and not middle eastern
thebigt
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yes, you are right i am a miserable sinner...i will pray for both of our souls.
Jiigzz
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ax1
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I cant claim Jesus was pro 2A, but I doubt he support the idea mass murdering genocidal terrorists in washington handing out food stamps so people get dependent on them and keep voting the same human filth back in in the meantime those making the policies get richer with the very policies intended to "help" people while gaining control.
Thats not "welfare."
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Jiigzz
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He fed and clothed the needy and encouraged others to do the same.
Jesus, the socialist, would absolutely been shunned by modern day conservatives. Feeding and clothing the poor? They can do it themselves those lazy bums!
Matthew 25:36-40
English Standard Version
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ax1
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I can say this for certain, he wouldnt have voting for the mass murdering corrupt genocidal maniac big banker fraudster Republicrat party that I am absolutely certain of. Somehow I do see overall in my lifetime conservative citizens being more caring and charitable than the Demican type who naively prefer some corrupt bureaucrats to assault innocent civilians at gunpoint and forefully redistribute what they have earned to the less deserving, but somehow they conservatives still naively get douped into voting in low life Republic-rats that dont give a crap about them or people over and over again.
So as to this:
Matthew 25:36-40
English Standard Version
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No where he does Jesus (The King) suggest that people prop up war mongering bureaucrats and shove guns down people's throats and force charity against people's will and not even have a say how their money is spent.
But really, I dunno about NZ, but Conservatives in America are in fact more overall more caring, giving and charitable than Dumbokraps. Its not even close. I grew up on a very diverse are of both types of people.
THOR 70
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You sure to talk about and think about God an awful lot for an atheist...
Jiigzz
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Isn't that the goal of Christianty, to spread the word to non-believers?
To be fair, I do think about the fact that Christians seem to dislike helping people while the Church of Satan seems to love helping people and how backward that is
thebigt
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i am praying hard for you...i pray you are not seriously thinking of joining the church of satan?
THOR 70
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So did you find your faith in God again or not? I would say that the goal of Christianity is to love God and to love others. So inadvertently if you love someone you will tell them about God and His word.
Yes, Satan does a lot of alluring worldly things. Does that make him your solution? To act like Christians don’t help people just makes you look silly with a chip on your shoulder. You’re just trolling but I do hope you’ve returned to your faith.
THOR 70
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illinois police officer begged for her life before being shot with her own weapon
to make things even worse scammers are using her name for a fake gofundme page...GOD HELP US
So do white people get to loot and riot now? Asking for a friend...
thebigt
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no---ALL white people are rich and privileged and don't need to steal so their kids can eat.
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Jiigzz
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If the Church of Satan is more intent on helping people than Christians are, I can see them taking over as the number 1 religion.
All I see from so-called Christians is their intent on kicking out immigrants and doing whatever they can to not help people.
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Jiigzz
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Which of these 2 barriers instructs us to build a wall? Asking for a friend
The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34
‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’
Deuteronomy 27:19
The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34
‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’
Deuteronomy 27:19
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THOR 70
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Well, this is your opinion and isn’t possibly provable nor likely.
Why are you mad at God? He is merciful and will welcome you back with open arms.
thebigt
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i always look back on my days of drinking and drugging and think how true the saying...'There but for the grace of God, go I'
Quest
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Sing along to danke shoen
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden,
Thank you for all the joy and pain
Cdc blows, Dr fauci
Not to meet in the second seat.
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
Save those lives, darling don't explain
I recall, no masks at all
How you saved us all?
What a mess, I confess, that's not all
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
Thank you for, long lines and no goods
I can see all the ships still waiting at sea
Waiting for miss Jen psaki
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
Thank you for speaking again
Even tho it's no twenty twenty
Still the memories of better days
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
My heart says 2 million thanks
2 million, at the white house
Knocking at your door..
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden,
Thank you for all the joy and pain
Cdc blows, Dr fauci
Not to meet in the second seat.
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
Save those lives, darling don't explain
I recall, no masks at all
How you saved us all?
What a mess, I confess, that's not all
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
Thank you for, long lines and no goods
I can see all the ships still waiting at sea
Waiting for miss Jen psaki
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
Thank you for speaking again
Even tho it's no twenty twenty
Still the memories of better days
Joe biden, jooe Joe biden
My heart says 2 million thanks
2 million, at the white house
Knocking at your door..
ax1
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At least both parties are unified in finding countries with brown and yellow skin and dropping bombs on pregnant ladies and school children.
ax1
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100% dont blame them! I love them!
thebigt
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thank you....by the way draft dodger biden calling me unpatriotic for not getting a vaccine that doesn't work at not spreading to others is disgracefull....did you know that biden was a star football player in high school and then a year later he started getting draft deferments for asthma--the same guy who is always chalenging people to pushup contests and wants to take people out behind the barn, lol--oh yeah the same guy who whopped corn pops ass...asthma my ass, biden was a fortunate son-and so is his son hunter-fucking disgraces the both of em!!!!
biden was also seeing his now wife jill when she was still married to another man-he blames biden for divorce...he was going to writes a book but either he was threatened or paid off not to....and everyone always talked about trump being a draft dodeger and cheater-why don't they talk about bidens past?
biden is a pussy-was too scared to go to nam like the poor kids-yet pretends to be for the poor-what a fucking joke.
thebigt
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blue state exodus accelerating as covid uncertainty drags on.....
democrats are fucking stupid---they flee democrat run states because they don't like how things are run---then the stupid fuckers vote for democrats in red states...someone please tell me where the sanity is in this...never mind, if they had any sanity they wouldn't be democrats.
democrats are fucking stupid---they flee democrat run states because they don't like how things are run---then the stupid fuckers vote for democrats in red states...someone please tell me where the sanity is in this...never mind, if they had any sanity they wouldn't be democrats.
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Ricky10
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That Biden speech today was nothing short of ridiculous, along with mainstream media taking advantage of the 1 year “insurrection“ anniversary as a means to further brainwash people into thinking it was an attack on our democracy.
Everyone holds their own beliefs as to what happened on Election Day, and consequently the events that occurred on January 6th. Many of us believe the true attack on our democracy is what occurred on election day, and what occurred on January 6th was a protest to that attack. Of course Trump and his supporters are labeled as the undeniable enemy in the eyes of this administration and mainstream media.
What a sickening display…
Everyone holds their own beliefs as to what happened on Election Day, and consequently the events that occurred on January 6th. Many of us believe the true attack on our democracy is what occurred on election day, and what occurred on January 6th was a protest to that attack. Of course Trump and his supporters are labeled as the undeniable enemy in the eyes of this administration and mainstream media.
What a sickening display…
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And they made what caused the protests (confidence in election ballots) even worse and lessened even my confidence and I didnt vote for him....wonder how next time will turn out?
All this can can be resolved with open blockchain technology and voter ID, but that must be racist!
Ricky10
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I only saw key clips of it with the news coverage while I was at the gym because it was on the TV. Otherwise, I definitely wouldn’t have watched it.Yes it was a disgusting speech. Trump lives in alot of peoples heads.
Happy 2020 everybody
I was just shaking my head and laughing at times due to how ridiculous it was. It’s like, does anyone’s really listen to this and eat it up? And if they do, what’s the *****ing point of reliving it all the time? Other than attempting to shame Trump and his supporters of course.
Well, guess what. It didn’t work then and it certainly isn’t working now. It only intensifies my disrespect for this administration.
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YYYYEEEAaahhhhhhhhhhhhh Keep those Billionaires and Trillionaires in check!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Out to look out for the "little guy" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job for a pedophile!!!! Fuq Yeah, try getting away with your little backdoor payments now Billionfuqqers!!!
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Out to look out for the "little guy" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job for a pedophile!!!! Fuq Yeah, try getting away with your little backdoor payments now Billionfuqqers!!!
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thebigt
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here in my small berg this morning [wabash valley, indiana] 2 young girls in early 20s decided to go around railroad crossing arms and were killed by train when ejected from car...this hits home for me since my own father was killed by train when i was only 8 months old. 
prayers for their families
prayers for their families