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Jiigzz said:
It's actually very simple:

When a group has been disadvantaged or seen as more vulnerable, then prioritizing them isn't racist.

If 1 Maori out of 100 applicants gets into med school, a program aiming to boost that to 10 out of 100 is not racist.

If people aged over 80 are more vulnerable to death by covid, prioritizing them over 20 year olds isn't ageist.

Chances are, because I bet you didn't read the article at all, "non-whites" are among the group with the lowest vaccination or highest comorbilities and so prioritizing them makes sense. For NYC, Black's and Hispanics are over 2x more likely to be hospitalized and 2x more likely to die than White people from covid. So yeah, it makes sense to prioritize the most in need.

Edit: LOL I found this headline from the daily mail referencing the same memo. Nowhere does it say "white people should not bother to try get treatment", but yet the dailymail is making it it's mission to get you very mad LOL. Literally anything to make you a victim.

White people in NY are told not to attempt to get monoclonal antibody treatment from doctors because Gov. Hochul has prioritized it for non-whites
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wait a minute old hoss---i've been reading where demmies blame trump supporters 'magrats' as the #1 group not being vaccinated, and the #1 cause of spread of virus and #1 reason why the virus is spreading so fast....so now you are saying NON-WHITES are #1 reason for these things????

c'mon man--spin is like assholes-everyone has one-eh?
 
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thebigt said:
wait a minute old hoss---i've been reading where demmies blame trump supporters 'magrats' as the #1 group not being vaccinated, and the #1 cause of spread of virus and #1 reason why the virus is spreading so fast....so now you are saying NON-WHITES are #1 reason for these things????

c'mon man--spin is like assholes-everyone has one-eh?
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Speaking of the subject, I don’t think personal approval or disapproval of the vaccines has any real correlation with a political party. I think it’s a choice people make for themselves (when able) regardless of their political party affiliation, and the media just likes to fabricate those narratives.

Let’s not forget that Trump is an advocate for the vaccines, and is fully vaccinated himself- with booster. However, he states that he does not support any mandates.
 
talk about SPIN---liberal journalists NOW say...

'We don't orient our lives around 'the flu'....i wonder if it is because after promising to quickly end coronavirus biden finds coronavirus at all time high?

the buck stops here-eh joe?
 
Ricky10 said:
Speaking of the subject, I don’t think personal approval or disapproval of the vaccines has any real correlation with a political party. I think it’s a choice people make for themselves (when able) regardless of their political party affiliation, and the media just likes to fabricate those narratives.

Let’s not forget that Trump is an advocate for the vaccines, and is fully vaccinated himself- with booster. However, he states that he does not support any mandates.
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exactly--but democrats on social and much of MAINSTREAM media have been saying for quite some time that trump supporters [magrats] are the #1 group of unvaxxed and the #1 cause of spread and #1 reason why biden hasn't 'SQUASHED' the virus like he promised to do---everything is trump supporters fault--UNTIL it goes against liberal agenda to blame 'MAGRATS'...

it's trump supporters fault why biden hasn't SQUASHED the virus...lol--ok!!!

now that they can no longer blame trump many in lefist mainstream media are now calling covid THE FLU..lol.
 
thebigt said:
wait a minute old hoss---i've been reading where demmies blame trump supporters 'magrats' as the #1 group not being vaccinated, and the #1 cause of spread of virus and #1 reason why the virus is spreading so fast....so now you are saying NON-WHITES are #1 reason for these things????

c'mon man--spin is like assholes-everyone has one-eh?
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Are you saying only whites voted for Trump?

Are white Republicans the majority population in NYC?

It boggles my mind how you feel hard done by in this situation. Doesn't the Bible teach you to look after the most vulnerable first before yourself?
 
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thebigt said:
exactly--but democrats on social and much of MAINSTREAM media have been saying for quite some time that trump supporters [magrats] are the #1 group of unvaxxed and the #1 cause of spread and #1 reason why biden hasn't 'SQUASHED' the virus like he promised to do---everything is trump supporters fault--UNTIL it goes against liberal agenda to blame 'MAGRATS'...

it's trump supporters fault why biden hasn't SQUASHED the virus...lol--ok!!!

now that they can no longer blame trump many in lefist mainstream media are now calling covid THE FLU..lol.
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You can't crush something that so many people insist is fake or not a threat. Despite us losing Puccah and likely other members of this forum who we don't know about to covid (nearly 1 in 300 Americans have died to covid), people still insist it isn't that bad.

Unfortunately the damage was done when Trump was in office. He made people believe that the virus wasn't that bad, AND promoted absolutely dangerous ways to try deal with it (drinking bleach). You can't undo that level of stupidty from someone people worship more than God himself.

To make matters worse, people genuinely believe that there's a chip in the vaccine or that the vaccine is the work of the devil. We live in a timeline where the mentally ill do not have enough support. It's quite sad
 
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thebigt said:
curious what your plan would be?
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Do you think that barricading yourself in a wooden house is going to stop a Military that gets 780 Billion in funding every year?

If they're going to roll you, they'll roll you.
 
Jiigzz said:
It's actually very simple:

When a group has been disadvantaged or seen as more vulnerable, then prioritizing them isn't racist.

If 1 Maori out of 100 applicants gets into med school, a program aiming to boost that to 10 out of 100 is not racist.

If people aged over 80 are more vulnerable to death by covid, prioritizing them over 20 year olds isn't ageist.

Chances are, because I bet you didn't read the article at all, "non-whites" are among the group with the lowest vaccination or highest comorbilities and so prioritizing them makes sense. For NYC, Black's and Hispanics are over 2x more likely to be hospitalized and 2x more likely to die than White people from covid. So yeah, it makes sense to prioritize the most in need.

Edit: LOL I found this headline from the daily mail referencing the same memo. Nowhere does it say "white people should not bother to try get treatment", but yet the dailymail is making it it's mission to get you very mad LOL. Literally anything to make you a victim.

White people in NY are told not to attempt to get monoclonal antibody treatment from doctors because Gov. Hochul has prioritized it for non-whites
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Your just fueling division and more racism.

People can be prioritized by individual case by case needs, not by picking and choosing what skin color they think is disadvantaged.

And if you dont think white people arent disadvantaged here in NY, why dont you come over here and Ill take you on some tours of white trailer trash parks.
 
Jiigzz said:
Are you saying only whites voted for Trump?

Are white Republicans the majority population in NYC?

It boggles my mind how you feel hard done by in this situation. Doesn't the Bible teach you to look after the most vulnerable first before yourself?
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lol---dude...you are being played :love:
 
Jiigzz said:
You can't crush something that so many people insist is fake or not a threat. Despite us losing Puccah and likely other members of this forum who we don't know about to covid (nearly 1 in 300 Americans have died to covid), people still insist it isn't that bad.

Unfortunately the damage was done when Trump was in office. He made people believe that the virus wasn't that bad, AND promoted absolutely dangerous ways to try deal with it (drinking bleach). You can't undo that level of stupidty from someone people worship more than God himself.

To make matters worse, people genuinely believe that there's a chip in the vaccine or that the vaccine is the work of the devil. We live in a timeline where the mentally ill do not have enough support. It's quite sad
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I hate Dump, but Dump tried closing down flights from other countries and he was called racist while Pelosi, the Mayor of NYC and others were going to chinatown saying the show must go on, go hug Chinese people who just came off the flight for Chinese New Years.

Dump pumped trillions of dollars, more socialist money than any other program in the history of the universe to help with the virus. (as a note I disagree with what he did)

So his actions didnt really show he didnt think the virus wasnt that at all.

And I know, the bleach is a big LMFAO moment, but he wasnt suggesting people to treat themselves with bleach.
 
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Jiigzz said:
You can't crush something that so many people insist is fake or not a threat. Despite us losing Puccah and likely other members of this forum who we don't know about to covid (nearly 1 in 300 Americans have died to covid), people still insist it isn't that bad.

Unfortunately the damage was done when Trump was in office. He made people believe that the virus wasn't that bad, AND promoted absolutely dangerous ways to try deal with it (drinking bleach). You can't undo that level of stupidty from someone people worship more than God himself.

To make matters worse, people genuinely believe that there's a chip in the vaccine or that the vaccine is the work of the devil. We live in a timeline where the mentally ill do not have enough support. It's quite sad
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shame on you for bringing poor puccah into this-that is low...

if you bothered to read the post i was quoting liberal journalists who are now saying 'WE DON"T ORIENT OUR LIVES AROUND THE FLU".

geez, try to keep up!!!
 
here is the article'''

LIBERAL JOURNALISTS SHIFT ON CORONAVIRUS AS OMICRON VARIANT SURGES: 'WE DON"T ORIENT OUR LIVES AROUND THE FLU'

notice it says LIBERAL...LIBERAL, not trump supporter or conservative but LIBERAL...LIBERAL LIBERAL LIBERAL, you get it yet--LIBERAL
 
Jiigzz said:
To make matters worse, people genuinely believe that there's a chip in the vaccine or that the vaccine is the work of the devil. We live in a timeline where the mentally ill do not have enough support. It's quite sad
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It actually was most of the Libtards saying they wouldnt take a vax if Dump fast tracked it through the FDA, even Karamela Fatriss said she wouldnt take any vax funded by Dump policies.

Then Groper Joe took office and said he created the entire vax program, Libtards decided to comply, LMFAO
 
ax1 said:
Your just fueling division and more racism.

People can be prioritized by individual case by case needs, not by picking and choosing what skin color they think is disadvantaged.

And if you dont think white people arent disadvantaged here in NY, why dont you come over here and Ill take you on some tours of white trailer trash parks.
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he is going by what bernie sanders said---'White people don't know what it's like to be poor'....i quoted the richest 'socialist' in America.
 
thebigt said:
he is going by what bernie sanders said---'White people don't know what it's like to be poor'....i quoted the richest 'socialist' in America.
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That dude is freaking loaded, never worked a day in his life.
 
Ricky10 said:
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kinda like a weird Al parody, lol.

google 'ELECTRIC AMISH' my favorite is BARN TO BE WILD....years ago when i lived in indy there was a popular radio show called bob and tom--the electric amish were regulars.

ALL RIGHT COW-bessie shes an all-right cow.....

gimme three pigs, gimme three pigs for the door...
 
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Jiigzz said:
Do you think that barricading yourself in a wooden house is going to stop a Military that gets 780 Billion in funding every year?

If they're going to roll you, they'll roll you.
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it would be a assumption to think that everyone in a army would react the same against civillians-eh jethro?
 
Jiigzz said:
You reckon?

What if they just dropped a bomb on you? Do you think they'll fight fair if they decide to actually fight you at all?
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Ask the Taliban after being bombed for 20 years how that worked out for them?
 
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it isn't a chess match at all...i see this as cold war version 2...this time instead of russia and usa doing a proxy war in vietnam i see india and pakistan being the players..

i look for shyt to break out between india and pakistan soon---this is a very risky thing if it happens since both are nuclear powers.
 
ax1 said:
Your just fueling division and more racism.

People can be prioritized by individual case by case needs, not by picking and choosing what skin color they think is disadvantaged.

And if you dont think white people arent disadvantaged here in NY, why dont you come over here and Ill take you on some tours of white trailer trash parks.
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Who said they can't be disadvantaged? Nice strawman though.

Think of it this way: there's a buffet that can feed 100 people. 10 of those people haven't eaten for a week and 90 of them are so fat they eat more than their fair share everytime.

So the person hosting says "hey, let's give the 10 who haven't eaten a chance to eat first".

Then the 90 say "hold on, that's racism!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just as entitled to that food as any body else!!!!!!!!!!!!"

That's what it sounds like.
 
ax1 said:
Ask the Taliban after being bombed for 20 years how that worked out for them?
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The average age in Afghanistan is 18. Average age in the US is 38.

That's how it worked out for them.
 
Jiigzz said:
Who said they can't be disadvantaged? Nice strawman though.

Think of it this way: there's a buffet that can feed 100 people. 10 of those people haven't eaten for a week and 90 of them are so fat they eat more than their fair share everytime.

So the person hosting says "hey, let's give the 10 who haven't eaten a chance to eat first".

Then the 90 say "hold on, that's racism!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just as entitled to that food as any body else!!!!!!!!!!!!"

That's what it sounds like.
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lol...you call others strawman as a defense when in all honesty you are nothing more than a master of spin.

we all do spin, but you have a advanced degree---is it true that half of all the children living in poverty in new zealand are maori?
maybe you should be spending time helping those children in your own country instead of wasting your time spinning your wheels on this forum-eh?

if you care so much about the poor imagine the difference you could have made if you had dedicated all the time you have wasted arguing on this forum with actually helping the needy-
 
thebigt said:
lol...you call others strawman as a defense when in all honesty you are nothing more than a master of spin.

we all do spin, but you have a advanced degree---is it true that half of all the children living in poverty in new zealand are maori?
maybe you should be spending time helping those children in your own country instead of wasting your time spinning your wheels on this forum-eh?

if you care so much about the poor imagine the difference you could have made if you had dedicated all the time you have wasted arguing on this forum with actually helping the needy-
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The difference is when kiwis say we should spend more money helping Maori children out of poverty, I don't argue it.

However you guys are all quick to pull the racism card
 
Jiigzz said:
The average age in Afghanistan is 18. Average age in the US is 38.

That's how it worked out for them.
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and now they have the good-hearted taliban looking out for their welfare-eh?
 
Jiigzz said:
The difference is when kiwis say we should spend more money helping Maori children out of poverty, I don't argue it.

However you guys are all quick to pull the racism card
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lol---ask the maori what they think about racism...what percentage of maori think there is racism against them?

stop spinning-you have talked about racism in my country for a long time-i think a discussion of racism in your country is well overdue.

btw-you truly are a master of spin-you should be a politician.
 
Jiigzz said:
The average age in Afghanistan is 18. Average age in the US is 38.

That's how it worked out for them.
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Wait, wtf, 38? Im not going to even look this up, but we dont have people in their 30s or even close dropping all over the place, LOL

Its probably about double that or more.
 
Jiigzz said:
Who said they can't be disadvantaged? Nice strawman though.

Think of it this way: there's a buffet that can feed 100 people. 10 of those people haven't eaten for a week and 90 of them are so fat they eat more than their fair share everytime.

So the person hosting says "hey, let's give the 10 who haven't eaten a chance to eat first".

Then the 90 say "hold on, that's racism!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just as entitled to that food as any body else!!!!!!!!!!!!"

That's what it sounds like.
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Having only 10 people who hadnt eaten for a week out of 100 actually sounds impressive to me. I thought there were more lazy pieces of crap who do absolutely nothing to better themselves for that alone, not including truly disadvantaged people which isnt a 'skin" problem here in the USA.
 
ax1 said:
Wait, wtf, 38? Im not going to even look this up, but we dont have people in their 30s or even close dropping all over the place, LOL

Its probably about double that or more.
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he is just pulling spin out of his ass, lol...he should be a DJ-he is a master of SPIN:D
 
ax1 said:
Having only 10 people who hadnt eaten for a week out of 100 actually sounds impressive to me. I thought there were more lazy pieces of crap who do absolutely nothing to better themselves for that alone, not including truly disadvantaged people which isnt a 'skin" problem here in the USA.
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the poverty rate for whites in US is 9.6%=roughly 1 in 10....
 
ax1 said:
If I was born in Afghan Id wish I was dead on the 1st day even if the USA wasnt dropping bombs on us.
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personally i would rather have a bomb drop on my head than be beheaded slowly with a saw-but thats just me...
 
ax1 said:
But they dont get a free covid testing kit so they can resell it on ebay, not fair.
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bernie sanders says ...if you are white you can't be poor-eh?

is bernie sanders the richest 'SOCIALIST', probably not but i would love to be as poor as he is...just sayin, socialism has been very good to old bernie-eh?
 
ax1 said:
Having only 10 people who hadnt eaten for a week out of 100 actually sounds impressive to me. I thought there were more lazy pieces of crap who do absolutely nothing to better themselves for that alone, not including truly disadvantaged people which isnt a 'skin" problem here in the USA.
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The point is is that sometimes prioritizing people or groups of people is done to equalize the playing field as best as possible. If one group starts out ahead, pushing others to that point isn't racist, it's equality.

If I walk in to after hours with a broken finger amd am waiting for 4 hours and someone else walks in bleeding from an artery but is seen straight away, I don't get upset that they were seen first. But people DO get upset first because they believe they are entitled to being seen first regardless of the circumstances of others
 
ax1 said:
Wait, wtf, 38? Im not going to even look this up, but we dont have people in their 30s or even close dropping all over the place, LOL

Its probably about double that or more.
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Do you know what averages mean?

It takes into account children and babies.

You know that right? I didn't say the average age someone dies. I said the average age in general
 
thebigt said:
the poverty rate for whites in US is 9.6%=roughly 1 in 10....
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Here's the official stats for 2020.

Nowhere does it say that Whites cannot be in poverty. But when you have a group nearly 3x as likely to be in poverty as another that needs addressing.

Do the Whites in poverty also need help? Of course.
 

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Jiigzz said:
The point is is that sometimes prioritizing people or groups of people is done to equalize the playing field as best as possible. If one group starts out ahead, pushing others to that point isn't racist, it's equality.

If I walk in to after hours with a broken finger amd am waiting for 4 hours and someone else walks in bleeding from an artery but is seen straight away, I don't get upset that they were seen first. But people DO get upset first because they believe they are entitled to being seen first regardless of the circumstances of others
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in 1965 LBJ started affirmative action...busing started in 1971...there are many organization is place to ensure equal opportunity for minorities including women...

trust me if any minority or woman gets treated unfairly they have many options...
 
Jiigzz said:
Do you know what averages mean?

It takes into account children and babies.

You know that right? I didn't say the average age someone dies. I said the average age in general
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Oh I thought you were talking about lifespand, my bad.
 
Jiigzz said:
Here's the official stats for 2020.

Nowhere does it say that Whites cannot be in poverty. But when you have a group nearly 3x as likely to be in poverty as another that needs addressing.

Do the Whites in poverty also need help? Of course.
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lets see a graph of poverty rate of maori, asian and pacific people in new zealand.
 
Jiigzz said:
Here's the official stats for 2020.

Nowhere does it say that Whites cannot be in poverty. But when you have a group nearly 3x as likely to be in poverty as another that needs addressing.

Do the Whites in poverty also need help? Of course.
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Yes, its needs addressing, but you dont do it by blaming or taking something from people that have absolutely nothing to do with their problems. Thats what fuels division and racism. If anybody wants to tax me because of what someone did in the 1800s they can truly fuq themselves, they will only motivate me to take their shyt and give it to more deserving needing people.
 
thebigt said:
lets see a graph of poverty rate of maori, asian and pacific people in new zealand.
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Again, I don't deny issues regarding poverty in my own backyard.

But you do. How can there be change when you play the victim card everytime it is brought up?
 
thebigt said:
in 1965 LBJ started affirmative action...busing started in 1971...there are many organization is place to ensure equal opportunity for minorities including women...

trust me if any minority or woman gets treated unfairly they have many options...
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There is no such thing as equality, especially when government tries to create equality.

The only thing that works is iron fisted freedoms for all to try to make their own.
 
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