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Thanks. It hasn't been mentioned but her cough has been so mild. Like maybe 1 or 2 little fits per day. She's going to give blood after isolating to see her antibodies for covid. Part of me thinks she had a false positive.
This is retarded. Covid is literally the flu. There is 0 evidence of a "pandemic" but all the evidence in the world of government and media manipulation and deceit. In a real pandemic the government doesn't make up fake deaths to try to inflate the death count and hospitals don't kill people with experimental treatments and then blame "covid". You and wife will be fine. Its literally the flu. Throw away your tv set for gods sake
 
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you can get them within 10 days of showing symptoms usually. so don't wait around much longer if you want them
When the fever and chills/shakes really started acting up last night, I filled out the form for it to do it today out of desperation. But, after taking 1500mg tylenol and 7mg melatonin throughout the night (in addition to tons of vitamin C of course), I actually slept and only sweated through everything once which I think was legitimately because I was hot. I woke up several times, but at least totaled 8 hours I think and actually dreamt. Melatonin always give me side effects, so I'm dealing with that now. Headache, fluttery chest, a little achy, drowsy...but I may feel better otherwise then yesterday. I'm sitting here thinking...would I know I was sick if I didn't have the melatonin hangover? My wife and I prayed hard yesterday for miraculous healing.

Question for those wiser then I...I've come to the conclusion that resveratrol really did make a significant difference in my state of well being, but I had stopped taking it because of the concern about immune suppression. That's when I started falling apart. But, I was recovering on it. Should I start it today again?

@HIT4ME @Hyde @duso know I'm forgetting someone...

Fwiw, I ask these questions because while I knew what to do for my wife, I cannot think clearly about this for myself. I go down rabbit holes and never emerge enlightened. Thanks again all for the support.
 
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When the fever and chills/shakes really started acting up last night, I filled out the form for it to do it today out of desperation. But, after taking 1500mg tylenol and 7mg melatonin throughout the night (in addition to tons of vitamin C of course), I actually slept and only sweated through everything once which I think was legitimately because I was hot. I woke up several times, but at least totaled 8 hours I think and actually dreamt. Melatonin always give me side effects, so I'm dealing with that now. Headache, fluttery chest, a little achy, drowsy...but I may feel better otherwise then yesterday. I'm sitting here thinking...would I know I was sick if I didn't have the melatonin hangover? My wife and I prayed hard yesterday for miraculous healing.

Question for those wiser then I...I've come to the conclusion that resveratrol really did make a significant difference in my state of well being, but I had stopped taking it because of the concern about immune suppression. That's when I started falling apart. But, I was recovering on it. Should I start it today again?

@HIT4ME @Hyde @duso know I'm forgetting someone...

Fwiw, I ask these questions because while I knew what to do for my wife, I cannot think clearly about this for myself. I go down rabbit holes and never emerge enlightened. Thanks again all for the support.
I should also mention something strange. After reading about fevers a little, technically mine haven't been fevers. 100.3 is the highest my temp has been, and it's 99.7 right now. At the moment I only feel a little hot, so it's not like last night. But at times last night where I was so chilled and my legs were literally shaking, my temp bounced around from 98 to that 100.3. Chills doesn't always mean fever in me I guess.
 
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This is retarded. Covid is literally the flu. There is 0 evidence of a "pandemic" but all the evidence in the world of government and media manipulation and deceit. In a real pandemic the government doesn't make up fake deaths to try to inflate the death count and hospitals don't kill people with experimental treatments and then blame "covid". You and wife will be fine. Its literally the flu. Throw away your tv set for gods sake
Hmmm, dude you are known yourself to be over-anxious about things most others find rather mundane. Your post here is a little ironic.
 
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This is my opinion. I saw enough evidence it may help and the virtual lack of risk (or cost, ivermectin is cheap!) that I had an online doc prescribe it at the end of my COVID when it was still kicking my butt after 13 days. Like a $10 copay.

I can’t say if it helped obviously, but I can say I had zero sides & was better within several days of starting it.

It has a terrific safety profile.
Was it with your own doctor, or one you just found online specific for this?
 
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No way I could exercise. I do pace around the room pretty frequently. I'm not just huddled under a bunch of blankets the whole time (only at night). Finally got around to taking my temperature when I could feel the shakes and it was 100.1. It didn't last long though, maybe 30 minutes to an hour. So, I'm guessing the uncontrolled shakes/chills in the middle of the night is a nasty fever. Oops.

Now, I will say...when that fever hit, my wife and I prayed for miraculous healing. Within minutes it came down. Praise Him!

I'm at the point I can't distinguish between the lack of sleep and the covid. My face and ears are on fire but that could easily be the lack of sleep as that happens frequently. My calves are a little tight but again, unsure what it's from. Stuffy nose, coughing only when I let up on vitamin C, no real fatigue, not out of breath, brain is working well, still have taste and smell, wonder if I'm missing anything.
I truly appreciate your candid display of faith, and hope you are doing better this morning!
It's interesting that you mention the sweats. So my 'rona was in March. I recall a time in June where for 2 days my body ached so bad it felt like the flu, and I drenched the sheets. I was hard into a cut and chalked it up to carb flu. a few months later for one day, same thing and I drenched the sheets overnight but wasn't really sick the day before or day after. My wife and I have had multiple covid exposures (and I mean intense ones like sharing the desk with the positive person, coughing on each other etc lol) but have not come down sick again since March. part of me wonders if these little uncomfortable moments I've had over the year have been me getting a natural booster and my antibodies going to work for me.

This is retarded. Covid is literally the flu. There is 0 evidence of a "pandemic" but all the evidence in the world of government and media manipulation and deceit. In a real pandemic the government doesn't make up fake deaths to try to inflate the death count and hospitals don't kill people with experimental treatments and then blame "covid". You and wife will be fine. Its literally the flu. Throw away your tv set for gods sake
Totally agree, however last night I was having a talk with my folks and I told them that I believe both sides of the media are playing us hard. It's extremely hard to muddle through the **** and know what the truth is these days. COVID is a thing, however in my experience the flu was 10x worse. It's hard for us to trust our gut instincts when literally every single media outlet, your neighbors, 90% of your family etc tell you that it's something else. (and these idiots believe it). our mental strength and ability to truly think for ourselves has been tested these past 2 years.
 
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Was it with your own doctor, or one you just found online specific for this?
If your doctor doesn’t want to you can use front line doctors online. Might cost a little more. It sounds to me like you are doing pretty good, but if it give you peace of mind to do a little more I say go for it. I wouldn’t worry about it either due to like a billion doses used worldwide in humans safely. The news scaring on this one just goes to show they aren’t news; they are content creators.

Another small note my doctor gave me an asthma medicine for my sinuses which suck. It’s not designed for sinuses, but it helps some people and is very safe. This type of thing was pretty common practice before Covid.

Does anyone here think life will ever go back to normal out of curiosity? The wife and I have been discussing this and with how many obedient people there are we don’t know it will. Can’t comply your way to freedom. Sorry if grim I still think life can be good, just different and silo’d off groups.
 
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When the fever and chills/shakes really started acting up last night, I filled out the form for it to do it today out of desperation. But, after taking 1500mg tylenol and 7mg melatonin throughout the night (in addition to tons of vitamin C of course), I actually slept and only sweated through everything once which I think was legitimately because I was hot. I woke up several times, but at least totaled 8 hours I think and actually dreamt. Melatonin always give me side effects, so I'm dealing with that now. Headache, fluttery chest, a little achy, drowsy...but I may feel better otherwise then yesterday. I'm sitting here thinking...would I know I was sick if I didn't have the melatonin hangover? My wife and I prayed hard yesterday for miraculous healing.

Question for those wiser then I...I've come to the conclusion that resveratrol really did make a significant difference in my state of well being, but I had stopped taking it because of the concern about immune suppression. That's when I started falling apart. But, I was recovering on it. Should I start it today again?

@HIT4ME @Hyde @duso know I'm forgetting someone...

Fwiw, I ask these questions because while I knew what to do for my wife, I cannot think clearly about this for myself. I go down rabbit holes and never emerge enlightened. Thanks again all for the support.
I hadn't heard of the antiviral properties of resveratrol. this seems to indicate that it's antiviral

reading this makes it seem like it both increases immune response and reduces cytokine storm. I'd say probably safe to do it, but you might just wanna get monoclonal and be done with things
 
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When the fever and chills/shakes really started acting up last night, I filled out the form for it to do it today out of desperation. But, after taking 1500mg tylenol and 7mg melatonin throughout the night (in addition to tons of vitamin C of course), I actually slept and only sweated through everything once which I think was legitimately because I was hot. I woke up several times, but at least totaled 8 hours I think and actually dreamt. Melatonin always give me side effects, so I'm dealing with that now. Headache, fluttery chest, a little achy, drowsy...but I may feel better otherwise then yesterday. I'm sitting here thinking...would I know I was sick if I didn't have the melatonin hangover? My wife and I prayed hard yesterday for miraculous healing.

Question for those wiser then I...I've come to the conclusion that resveratrol really did make a significant difference in my state of well being, but I had stopped taking it because of the concern about immune suppression. That's when I started falling apart. But, I was recovering on it. Should I start it today again?

@HIT4ME @Hyde @duso know I'm forgetting someone...

Fwiw, I ask these questions because while I knew what to do for my wife, I cannot think clearly about this for myself. I go down rabbit holes and never emerge enlightened. Thanks again all for the support.
Not medical advice: Don’t you want the fever as part of the bodies process to overcome the virus? I don’t think that much Tylenol is beneficial especially with liver strain. I remember when I got Covid on thanksgiving last year, I felt horrendous and went to bed with sweat on and 2 blankets cause I was chilled. Basically hallucinated/dreamed/stirred all night and very uncomfortable but woke up covered in sweat and feeling markably better. Now it lasted for 10+ days after that but was bearable and not nearly as bad.

I see/hear people load their kids up on Tylenol(I believe even pediatric bodies have regressed on this practice) at first sign of fever and I just feel it’s not smart unless fever is very high for many days and dehydration/etc are at the table. Maybe this was the case for you you, sorry if I missed it.

Edit: just read that your fever was minimal. Let your bodies do it’s thing! Devils advocate, what if you prolonged the infection by intervening with Tylenol?
 
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Not medical advice: Don’t you want the fever as part of the bodies process to overcome the virus? I don’t think that much Tylenol is beneficial especially with liver strain. I remember when I got Covid on thanksgiving last year, I felt horrendous and went to bed with sweat on and 2 blankets cause I was chilled. Basically hallucinated/dreamed/stirred all night and very uncomfortable but woke up covered in sweat and feeling markably better. Now it lasted for 10+ days after that but was bearable and not nearly as bad.

I see/hear people load their kids up on Tylenol(I believe even pediatric bodies have regressed on this practice) at first sign of fever and I just feel it’s not smart unless fever is very high for many days and dehydration/etc are at the table. Maybe this was the case for you you, sorry if I missed it.

Edit: just read that your fever was minimal. Let your bodies do it’s thing! Devils advocate, what if you prolonged the infection by intervening with Tylenol?
Yeah, I believe your right on the fever, but I just needed sleep so bad. Might not do it tonight. Well see.
 
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I hadn't heard of the antiviral properties of resveratrol. this seems to indicate that it's antiviral

reading this makes it seem like it both increases immune response and reduces cytokine storm. I'd say probably safe to do it, but you might just wanna get monoclonal and be done with things
I hear you. I'm at the place right now waiting for evaluation.
 
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I used a front line doctor. I’m not sure they will prescribe Ivermectin now due to pressure from the government. But it doesn’t matter because you don’t need it: what you’re experiencing right now sounds exactly like my run. Just hang in there and let your body work through it; as was mentioned low fevers of 100 are totally healthy and your body is handling business. It may take some days like mine did - but notice nothing is actually getting “worse”, right? It’s normal to feel sick when you are sick brother. That’s why it’s called being sick.
 
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This is retarded. Covid is literally the flu. There is 0 evidence of a "pandemic" but all the evidence in the world of government and media manipulation and deceit. In a real pandemic the government doesn't make up fake deaths to try to inflate the death count and hospitals don't kill people with experimental treatments and then blame "covid". You and wife will be fine. Its literally the flu. Throw away your tv set for gods sake
Thanks for your post. It truly highlights the ignorance of some people who have zero experience with what actually happens with moderate and severe COVID infections. It must be nice to live inside your bubble of an alternate reality. Hospitals and healthcare workers would love nothing more than the notion of having to make up fake deaths, or to have this virus be no more threatening than the flu. You simply have zero grasp on what you’re talking about.

Numerous people are in fact dying despite the exhausting efforts of healthcare workers for close to 2 years now. Let’s not forget that nobody is forcing COVID patients to go the the ER or get admitted. They are MORE than welcome to just stay at home and ride it out like a champ if they don’t trust or appreciate what we have to offer.
Hmmm, dude you are known yourself to be over-anxious about things most others find rather mundane. Your post here is a little ironic.
Ironic? Possibly…

Moronic is the first word that comes to mind. Along with several others that I will keep to myself..
 
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Yeah, I believe your right on the fever, but I just needed sleep so bad. Might not do it tonight. Well see.
I’m definitely not any more of an expert than anyone else in this thread on treating outpatients. However, I think you have received lots of good advice from those who have already been through it and it sounds like you continue to do very well!

As others have said, your SpO2 levels are just fine! It’s obviously quite a nerve wracking experience, so it’s only natural to experience anxiety about it all on some level. Stay vigilant, but not too vigilant :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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New York Times actually reported on investigations into over 800 cases of rare heart problems in people after vaccination. I guess they have to look like news once in a while.
too bad they waited so long.
Not medical advice: Don’t you want the fever as part of the bodies process to overcome the virus? I don’t think that much Tylenol is beneficial especially with liver strain. I remember when I got Covid on thanksgiving last year, I felt horrendous and went to bed with sweat on and 2 blankets cause I was chilled. Basically hallucinated/dreamed/stirred all night and very uncomfortable but woke up covered in sweat and feeling markably better. Now it lasted for 10+ days after that but was bearable and not nearly as bad.

I see/hear people load their kids up on Tylenol(I believe even pediatric bodies have regressed on this practice) at first sign of fever and I just feel it’s not smart unless fever is very high for many days and dehydration/etc are at the table. Maybe this was the case for you you, sorry if I missed it.

Edit: just read that your fever was minimal. Let your bodies do it’s thing! Devils advocate, what if you prolonged the infection by intervening with Tylenol?
the liver is the bodies cleanser, i would think you would want it working at full capacity...i've heard people mention NAC as beneficial for covid, i am just a layman but i can see where NAC's role in detoxification would be of major benefit when fighting a virus.

why would doctors recommend something that diminishes the liver from working at full capacity like tylenol, without also recommending/prescribing something along with it to protect the liver? i mean doctors often prescribe or recommend a blood thinner/antacid or laxative along with certain drugs, why not a liver protectant when recommending tylenol? i mean they should at very least recommend something to protect liver along with recommending/prescribing tylenol. every doctor should be aware of NAC's benefits to liver and if they don't SHAME ON THEM.
 
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I used a front line doctor. I’m not sure they will prescribe Ivermectin now due to pressure from the government. But it doesn’t matter because you don’t need it: what you’re experiencing right now sounds exactly like my run. Just hang in there and let your body work through it; as was mentioned low fevers of 100 are totally healthy and your body is handling business. It may take some days like mine did - but notice nothing is actually getting “worse”, right? It’s normal to feel sick when you are sick brother. That’s why it’s called being sick.
Good point. I just hate that it lasts so long. Wears on me. I think the flu was 7 days to the T when I had it, but this does feel similar to that.

I went and had a re-eval. No fever in the office, and lungs sounded great. We went over everything and I am improving, so... Gotta just relax and Trust God through it. He's a great God.
 
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I hadn't heard of the antiviral properties of resveratrol. this seems to indicate that it's antiviral

reading this makes it seem like it both increases immune response and reduces cytokine storm. I'd say probably safe to do it, but you might just wanna get monoclonal and be done with things
this made me do some digging because as mentioned earlier, I was a bourbon drinker during my covid stint. apparently there could be some health benefits I wasn't aware of



Also, I read that elderberry could induce a cytokine storm, but I stayed on my elderberry regiment the month before and during I was sick.
 
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Thanks for your post. It truly highlights the ignorance of some people who have zero experience with what actually happens with moderate and severe COVID infections. It must be nice to live inside your bubble of an alternate reality. Hospitals and healthcare workers would love nothing more than the notion of having to make up fake deaths, or to have this virus be no more threatening than the flu. You simply have zero grasp on what you’re talking about.

Numerous people are in fact dying despite the exhausting efforts of healthcare workers for close to 2 years now. Let’s not forget that nobody is forcing COVID patients to go the the ER or get admitted. They are MORE than welcome to just stay at home and ride it out like a champ if they don’t trust or appreciate what we have to offer.

Ironic? Possibly…

Moronic is the first word that comes to mind. Along with several others that I will keep to myself..

Ricky, I want to be very clear on something. I have an immense amount of respect for you, your job, your contributions to this community and your involvement in this thread. you have done a fantastic job of sharing facts openly and candidly and allowing people to come to their own conclusions.

When I crunch data numbers I feel validated in my stance in regards to the virus and the vaccine. My end goal is to learn more about healthy remedies, alternatives to pharma where the decision is intelligent, and preservation of human rights as citizens of a free nation. I don't deny the existence of the virus whatsoever, or the fact that it's severity has been devastating for some. although it has led me to speculate that our dna/genes play a huge roll in how we respond to it seeing as how "USUALLY" (outliers exist) it seems to have an effect through bloodlines (from my small observation) where a family seemingly sharing the same blood has the same end result to the virus itself (positive or negative) if that makes sense.

again, as many have already said in these 1700 posts, your continued contributions here are greatly appreciated, nothing but respect for you.
 
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Good point. I just hate that it lasts so long. Wears on me. I think the flu was 7 days to the T when I had it, but this does feel similar to that.

I went and had a re-eval. No fever in the office, and lungs sounded great. We went over everything and I am improving, so... Gotta just relax and Trust God through it. He's a great God.
did they explain what it would take to get the treatment? this sounds a lot like you could go to another doctor and get it
 
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did they explain what it would take to get the treatment? this sounds a lot like you could go to another doctor and get it
I could've had it done but I chose not to since I believe I'm recovering. But I could get it done tomorrow if I change my mind.
 
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Good point. I just hate that it lasts so long. Wears on me. I think the flu was 7 days to the T when I had it, but this does feel similar to that.

I went and had a re-eval. No fever in the office, and lungs sounded great. We went over everything and I am improving, so... Gotta just relax and Trust God through it. He's a great God.
He is a great God! Believe that He will do whatever He plans for you. Don’t ask for a lighter load - ask only for the strength to carry it!
 
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He is a great God! Believe that He will do whatever He plans for you. Don’t ask for a lighter load - ask only for the strength to carry it!
SERENITY PRAYER....i put it in caps to emphasis how powerful this prayer has been for me.

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Ricky, I want to be very clear on something. I have an immense amount of respect for you, your job, your contributions to this community and your involvement in this thread. you have done a fantastic job of sharing facts openly and candidly and allowing people to come to their own conclusions.

When I crunch data numbers I feel validated in my stance in regards to the virus and the vaccine. My end goal is to learn more about healthy remedies, alternatives to pharma where the decision is intelligent, and preservation of human rights as citizens of a free nation. I don't deny the existence of the virus whatsoever, or the fact that it's severity has been devastating for some. although it has led me to speculate that our dna/genes play a huge roll in how we respond to it seeing as how "USUALLY" (outliers exist) it seems to have an effect through bloodlines (from my small observation) where a family seemingly sharing the same blood has the same end result to the virus itself (positive or negative) if that makes sense.

again, as many have already said in these 1700 posts, your continued contributions here are greatly appreciated, nothing but respect for you.
Thank you! Yeah, I agree with a majority of that as well. I fully support alternative therapies (prophylactic or acute) and have added a few of those supplements into my own regimen despite being vaccinated. Truth be told, I don’t much like getting sick with anything period! Alternative pharmaceuticals could also use some evolution. It will be interesting to see how the antiviral pills coming out will be received. I haven’t researched them enough myself yet to form much of an opinion, but I anticipate there will still be hesitation to those as well. I’m sure there already is ;)

The problem is that there are still far too many people who are obviously at high risk that don’t get vaccinated, and you know they aren’t all that invested in taking supplements or other means to optimize their state of health. When they end up in the hospital with COVID, they monopolize an immense amount of resources that makes all hospital staff and the general patient population suffer the consequences. It’s not just about them and their choice as it does have a large impact on others. To say we are tired is an understatement and I can’t even put it into words. I feel very trapped in my job (some of which are personal reasons), and I am very much suffering.

Yesterday was a terrible day at work and while I am off today, I haven’t had any appetite and can’t even bring myself to workout- which is something I love. The following is a quote from a non healthcare worker that I believe came from Twitter:

“I can’t imagine how infuriating it must be to be a doctor/healthcare worker in a society where people don't trust you enough to listen to you but trust you enough to feel entitled to your care when their poor choices inevitably land them to the ICU.”

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality we have to struggle with..
 
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Thank you! Yeah, I agree with a majority of that as well. I fully support alternative therapies (prophylactic or acute) and have added a few of those supplements into my own regimen despite being vaccinated. Truth be told, I don’t much like getting sick with anything period! Alternative pharmaceuticals could also use some evolution. It will be interesting to see how the antiviral pills coming out will be received. I haven’t researched them enough myself yet to form much of an opinion, but I anticipate there will still be hesitation to those as well. I’m sure there already is ;)

The problem is that there are still far too many people who are obviously at high risk that don’t get vaccinated, and you know they aren’t all that invested in taking supplements or other means to optimize their state of health. When they end up in the hospital with COVID, they monopolize an immense amount of resources that makes all hospital staff and the general patient population suffer the consequences. It’s not just about them and their choice as it does have a large impact on others. To say we are tired is an understatement and I can’t even put it into words. I feel very trapped in my job (some of which are personal reasons), and I am very much suffering.

Yesterday was a terrible day at work and while I am off today, I haven’t had any appetite and can’t even bring myself to workout- which is something I love. The following is a quote from a non healthcare worker that I believe came from Twitter:

“I can’t imagine how infuriating it must be to be a doctor/healthcare worker in a society where people don't trust you enough to listen to you but trust you enough to feel entitled to your care when their poor choices inevitably land them to the ICU.”

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality we have to struggle with..
just think if trump were still president 1st line workers including healthcare workers would still be on the job, and if understaffed he would have brought in national guard healthcare workers like he did before...why the hell biden isn't utilizing the national guard if hospitals are being OVER-RUN is what EVERYONE should be asking.:mad:

didn't biden get elected by promising to do better handling the virus than trump...FAIL
 
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just think if trump were still president 1st line workers including healthcare workers would still be on the job, and if understaffed he would have brought in national guard healthcare workers like he did before...why the hell biden isn't utilizing the national guard if hospitals are being OVER-RUN is what EVERYONE should be asking.:mad:

didn't biden get elected by promising to do better handling the virus than trump...FAIL
This administration could give two sh*t’s about the health, prosperity, and security of Americans on many levels. They are just throwing salt in the wounds every chance they get.
 
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Fever spiked to 102.6 for a few minutes. Then I realized the room I was in was 75 degrees. I turned on the ac and hopefully that's all that was. The AC feels good now but my temp is still 101.4. I also used the FLCCC website to get ivermectin, but I can't pick it up until Monday.
 
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The problem is that there are still far too many people who are obviously at high risk that don’t get vaccinated,
Yeah, well, guess who takes the blame for that? Hint: those who have lied incessantly, obfuscated, and bullied those who were not immediately sold on the vaccine, and the harder they do all that, the more difficulty they will have winning those people over.

Not to mention the things they lied about were 'it's 100% safe', which it absolutely is not, and '95% effective', which is also is not; and another being the refusal to acknowledge natural immunity, or investigate negative side effects/deaths from the vaccine.

So, the whole medical, science, and political fields get to reap what they sow. Nice job.

and you know they aren’t all that invested in taking supplements or other means to optimize their state of health. When they end up in the hospital with COVID, they monopolize an immense amount of resources that makes all hospital staff and the general patient population suffer the consequences.
You know who else isn't invested in healthy living? The obese, smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts, to name a few, and all eat up infinitely more resources than covid. FYI 400,000+ dead from smoking this year; over 100k dead from drug overdoses; 250-650k dead from obesity and complications yearly. Meanwhile 35k died FROM covid, according to the CDC.

Until that mentality is applied to the obese and similar, you can take that mentality and shove it. Sorry bro.

It’s not just about them and their choice as it does have a large impact on others. To say we are tired is an understatement and I can’t even put it into words. I feel very trapped in my job (some of which are personal reasons), and I am very much suffering.
It's funny: every other godamn year hospitals are overwhelmed with the flu and setting up overflow tents in parking lots.

OMG a war zone!

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients — and are setting up tents to treat them - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

Flu cases double

California hospital deploys overflow tent after flu cases double (beckershospitalreview.com)

That's just the reality of hospitals: they're for profit businesses, and aren't in the business of running on empty beds. Any spike causes these issues.

Yesterday was a terrible day at work and while I am off today, I haven’t had any appetite and can’t even bring myself to workout- which is something I love. The following is a quote from a non healthcare worker that I believe came from Twitter:

“I can’t imagine how infuriating it must be to be a doctor/healthcare worker in a society where people don't trust you enough to listen to you but trust you enough to feel entitled to your care when their poor choices inevitably land them to the ICU.”

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality we have to struggle with..
Some serious arrogance in that quote. Healthcare workers are not gods, they're fallible men, many times with incomplete knowledge, opinions, and biases, who largely seem to have forgotten that they are EMPLOYED to SERVE, and help a patient navigate options to find the best one for the patient, taking into account their goals, needs, and desires, instead of attempting to bully them into silently acquiescing to whatever treatment the health care worker has been taught is best, outright instructed to administer, or paid to recommend.

There is no disconnect between saying both 'I trust you to do an organ transplant', and also 'I don't believe you are correct in saying my only options are vax or die, so I prefer not to take the covid vax'. It's perfectly possible for a good doctor to be wrong, and a patient to be right, and I utterly reject the idea that the two are incompatible. Doctors are barely educated enough to make judgements about the vax; every health care worker beneath dr's are even less so. A nurse has 0 insight into the truth of the vax over what I have, and their recommendation means nothing in that regard.

And BTW, every profession has its up's and down's. Yours is in the hot seat now; tomorrow it may be mine (actually mine is every day, you just don't read about it, and I don't bitch about it, but in my case, the hot seat means I may get shot). Teachers and some health care workers cut and run awfully quick over covid, but wtf did they think? You'll never see a pandemic, never experience an influx of work? That teachers won't be around sick kids?

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality EVERYONE has to struggle with, at one time or another.
 
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Yeah, well, guess who takes the blame for that? Hint: those who have lied incessantly, obfuscated, and bullied those who were not immediately sold on the vaccine, and the harder they do all that, the more difficulty they will have winning those people over.

Not to mention the things they lied about were 'it's 100% safe', which it absolutely is not, and '95% effective', which is also is not; and another being the refusal to acknowledge natural immunity, or investigate negative side effects/deaths from the vaccine.

So, the whole medical, science, and political fields get to reap what they sow. Nice job.



You know who else isn't invested in healthy living? The obese, smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts, to name a few, and all eat up infinitely more resources than covid. FYI 400,000+ dead from smoking this year; over 100k dead from drug overdoses; 250-650k dead from obesity and complications yearly. Meanwhile 35k died FROM covid, according to the CDC.

Until that mentality is applied to the obese and similar, you can take that mentality and shove it. Sorry bro.



It's funny: every other godamn year hospitals are overwhelmed with the flu and setting up overflow tents in parking lots.

OMG a war zone!

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients — and are setting up tents to treat them - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

Flu cases double

California hospital deploys overflow tent after flu cases double (beckershospitalreview.com)

That's just the reality of hospitals: they're for profit businesses, and aren't in the business of running on empty beds. Any spike causes these issues.



Some serious arrogance in that quote. Healthcare workers are not gods, they're fallible men, many times with incomplete knowledge, opinions, and biases, who largely seem to have forgotten that they are EMPLOYED to SERVE, and help a patient navigate options to find the best one for the patient, taking into account their goals, needs, and desires, instead of attempting to bully them into silently acquiescing to whatever treatment the health care worker has been taught is best, outright instructed to administer, or paid to recommend.

There is no disconnect between saying both 'I trust you to do an organ transplant', and also 'I don't believe you are correct in saying my only options are vax or die, so I prefer not to take the covid vax'. It's perfectly possible for a good doctor to be wrong, and a patient to be right, and I utterly reject the idea that the two are incompatible. Doctors are barely educated enough to make judgements about the vax; every health care worker beneath dr's are even less so. A nurse has 0 insight into the truth of the vax over what I have, and their recommendation means nothing in that regard.

And BTW, every profession has its up's and down's. Yours is in the hot seat now; tomorrow it may be mine (actually mine is every day, you just don't read about it, and I don't bitch about it, but in my case, the hot seat means I may get shot). Teachers and some health care workers cut and run awfully quick over covid, but wtf did they think? You'll never see a pandemic, never experience an influx of work? That teachers won't be around sick kids?

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality EVERYONE has to struggle with, at one time or another.
ricky is a good guy who i like and respect, but you make some really good points that i agree with in this post.
 
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ricky is a good guy who i like and respect, but you make some really good points that i agree with in this post.
Absolutely, bad guys don't take it on themselves to care for those in need. But making that choice doesn't mean you're on a pedestal, it doesn't mean you cannot be questioned or disagreed with, or that your opinions on my healthcare mean more than mine. In fact, it means you're more eligible for question, because as a health care provider you're (incorrectly as I pointed out above) making decisions or influencing others. And as an offshoot of 'science', they should welcome it.
 
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Absolutely, bad guys don't take it on themselves to care for those in need. But making that choice doesn't mean you're on a pedestal, it doesn't mean you cannot be questioned or disagreed with, or that your opinions on my healthcare mean more than mine. In fact, it means you're more eligible for question, because as a health care provider you're (incorrectly as I pointed out above) making decisions or influencing others. And as an offshoot of 'science', they should welcome it.
going to stick up for ricky here. i agree there are a lot of fucked up people in healthcare, just like every other occupation, but ricky is one of the good guys, he is just frustrated by being overwhelmed.
i have disagreed with ricky several times about covid and vaccines and yet we remain good buds.

btw-i think you are one of the good guys also, i remember way back to the days of SAN NUTRITION. :)
 
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Yeah, well, guess who takes the blame for that? Hint: those who have lied incessantly, obfuscated, and bullied those who were not immediately sold on the vaccine, and the harder they do all that, the more difficulty they will have winning those people over.

Not to mention the things they lied about were 'it's 100% safe', which it absolutely is not, and '95% effective', which is also is not; and another being the refusal to acknowledge natural immunity, or investigate negative side effects/deaths from the vaccine.
Just because someone develops a new medical condition or dies in close proximity to receiving a vaccine does not necessarily mean it was caused by said vaccine. But you know that. Have there been such instances that can be attributed to the vaccine? Probably. However, that doesn’t mean that the benefits don’t outweigh the risks for the majority of population.

The vaccine effectiveness percentages were based upon the original strain. Regardless, it’s actually quite remarkable that it has still managed to be very effective at keeping people out of the ICU and off ventilators.

Yes, of course it is a shame that natural immunity isn’t given due credit.
You know who else isn't invested in healthy living? The obese, smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts, to name a few, and all eat up infinitely more resources than covid. FYI 400,000+ dead from smoking this year; over 100k dead from drug overdoses; 250-650k dead from obesity and complications yearly. Meanwhile 35k died FROM covid, according to the CDC.
I deal with all these people, but thanks for your enlightening numbers. I will be sure to share them at work tomorrow ;). It’s much harder and takes much longer for patients to make lifestyle changes than it is for patients to roll up their sleeve for less than a minute. We are still facing an acute situation here.

Since I don’t believe you have any experience working in a hospital with COVID patients, it comes as no surprise that you would have no idea how extensive the care demands are in treating critical COVID patients. Just one COVID patient on a ventilator is the equivalent of having about 4 patients (at least) who are intubated for airway protection from an overdose. On top of that, factor in all the changing of PPE, disinfection of equipment, trips to MRI and/or CT, and then disinfecting those entire rooms and not being able to use them again until the air exchanges after 2 hours. The time spent by ALL disciplines is exponentially increased. People have no idea..
It's funny: every other godamn year hospitals are overwhelmed with the flu and setting up overflow tents in parking lots.

OMG a war zone!
Never seen anything even close to that in my 10 years of being an RT in regard to influenza. Nope..
Healthcare workers are not gods, they're fallible men, many times with incomplete knowledge, opinions, and biases, who largely seem to have forgotten that they are EMPLOYED to SERVE, and help a patient navigate options to find the best one for the patient, taking into account their goals, needs, and desires, instead of attempting to bully them into silently acquiescing to whatever treatment the health care worker has been taught is best, outright instructed to administer, or paid to recommend.
Yeah, it’s all about bullying for sure. It couldn’t be because it continues to keep people from getting critically ill as I said above. Nah….nothing to do with that..

Navigating options, goals of care, and desires? We aren’t talking about hospice plans for a cancer patient here, this is a pandemic called COVID-19. Nonetheless, many cases do end up as a hospice scenario but I don’t think that is what you meant.

Sure, I guess some people would rather opt to not get a vaccine in some instances when they feel it is futile. We recently had a COVID patient admitted who also had a fairly recent diagnosis of ALS. He had decided to not get vaccinated but ended up agreeing to be admitted to the hospital due to hypoxia (shocking). However, he was a DNR/DNI and refused all care upon being admitted. I think he wanted to go through a quicker death as opposed to the grueling future that was ahead of him. He got his wish.

If people would like to label us in the healthcare field as having incomplete knowledge that’s fine. I repeat, that they are more than welcome to stay home when they can’t breathe. It’s definitely their choice to make.

Teachers and some health care workers cut and run awfully quick over covid, but wtf did they think? You'll never see a pandemic, never experience an influx of work?
Not exactly. What we didn’t expect was to not be supported and compensated by our employers for the increased work demands, uncomfortable working environment, and severely limited staff that makes it impossible to take care of all the patients they keep accepting.
 
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I found this quote pulled from one website:
Acetaminophen (Tylenol) -- High doses of vitamin C may lower the amount of acetaminophen passed in urine, which could cause the levels of this drug in your blood to rise.

I've also found more recent pubmed studies that ascorbic acid protects against tylenol toxicity.

I've only taken a total of 2g the past 24 hours and is been almost 24 hours from the first dose. Should I just not use tylenol anymore at all? If I did some damage, would I know by now?

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I found this quote pulled from one website:
Acetaminophen (Tylenol) -- High doses of vitamin C may lower the amount of acetaminophen passed in urine, which could cause the levels of this drug in your blood to rise.

I've also found more recent pubmed studies that ascorbic acid protects against tylenol toxicity.

I've only taken a total of 2g the past 24 hours and is been almost 24 hours from the first dose. Should I just not use tylenol anymore at all? If I did some damage, would I know by now?

@HIT4ME @Hyde @Ricky10
I’m not sure if I can offer much help in this regard, but I would at least try to maintain your fevers below 103. Or if you are otherwise uncomfortable and get relief from the Tylenol. While fevers are a good sign of your body fighting infection, you don’t want to be overly uncomfortable in the process.

In regard to Tylenol toxicity, I highly doubt that you have put yourself at risk of that. You’re good! ;)
 
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Just because someone develops a new medical condition or dies in close proximity to receiving a vaccine does not necessarily mean it was caused by said vaccine. But you know that. Have there been such instances that can be attributed to the vaccine? Probably. However, that doesn’t mean that the benefits don’t outweigh the risks for the majority of population.
Let's talk risk. Risk isn't spread evenly across the population; some have little risk, others exponentially moreso. WE've known since March 2020 pretty precisely who was at risk, and who wasn't, but instead of taking that into account, those in charge of this, and your post, spread the risk evenly in an attempt to imply everyone is better off vaxxing.

This is bullshit. If saving lives were actually the goal of the pandemic response, healthy 30yo's wouldn't be hammering 3 doses, and 12yo's wouldn't be taking 2. Instead, those doses would go to those truly at risk around the globe, but whatever, **** them right? (I'm referring to the response and those in charge, not you, on that)

The vaccine effectiveness percentages were based upon the original strain. Regardless, it’s actually quite remarkable that it has still managed to be very effective at keeping people out of the ICU and off ventilators.
Yeah, about that: you can see the absurdity of a mandate for a vaccine designed for a variant from many mutations ago, right? One that isn't even that effective, doesnt stop the spread, etc?

I deal with all these people, but thanks for your enlightening numbers. I will be sure to share them at work tomorrow ;). It’s much harder and takes much longer for patients to make lifestyle changes than it is for patients to roll up their sleeve for less than a minute. We are still facing an acute situation here.
I don't know what hospital you're at, but no, the US hospital system is not overwhelmed by covid, not even close:

Weekly Hospitalization Trends - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)

The glibness with which you say 'it just takes a minute', wow. When my daughters school mandated vaccines, I email the dipshit administrator and asked straight out: If I agree to vaccinate my daughter, will you personally, along with the school, take responsibility for any negative side effects from the vax? Would you, ricky?

I know the answer. But I'm expected to Just Do it, without consideration of evidence or facts or science....which doesn't support the vaccination of healthy teens.

Since I don’t believe you have any experience working in a hospital with COVID patients, it comes as no surprise that you would have no idea how extensive the care demands are in treating critical COVID patients. Just one COVID patient on a ventilator is the equivalent of having about 4 patients (at least) who are intubated for airway protection from an overdose. On top of that, factor in all the changing of PPE, disinfection of equipment, trips to MRI and/or CT, and then disinfecting those entire rooms and not being able to use them again until the air exchanges after 2 hours. The time spent by ALL disciplines is exponentially increased. People have no idea..

Never seen anything even close to that in my 10 years of being an RT in regard to influenza. Nope..
Again, only around 15% of inpatient capacity across the US is from covid; we have the ability to set up overflow facilities and US naval ships, but at no point during this has any of that been used or needed, and it's unlikely this winter will be different. If you're overworked and overwhelmed, it's not covid, it's your leadership, be it at the hospital level, or country level.

But if it is different this winter, with 2 years of covid experience, and 3 vaccines available, it won't point to vaccine effectiveness, at all,but the opposite.

Yeah, it’s all about bullying for sure. It couldn’t be because it continues to keep people from getting critically ill as I said above. Nah….nothing to do with that..
That doesn't even stand up to minimal scrutiny: why are they trying to force people with natural immunity to vax, or healthy 5yo's? That is definitively bullying, and anti-science. It's wrong.

Navigating options, goals of care, and desires? We aren’t talking about hospice plans for a cancer patient here, this is a pandemic called COVID-19. Nonetheless, many cases do end up as a hospice scenario but I don’t think that is what you meant.
Are you really implying a patient's health is not their choice?

Sure, I guess some people would rather opt to not get a vaccine in some instances when they feel it is futile. We recently had a COVID patient admitted who also had a fairly recent diagnosis of ALS. He had decided to not get vaccinated but ended up agreeing to be admitted to the hospital due to hypoxia (shocking). However, he was a DNR/DNI and refused all care upon being admitted. I think he wanted to go through a quicker death as opposed to the grueling future that was ahead of him. He got his wish.

If people would like to label us in the healthcare field as having incomplete knowledge that’s fine. I repeat, that they are more than welcome to stay home when they can’t breathe. It’s definitely their choice to make.
'ACCEPT OUR RULE, OR STAY HOME'

Nah. Again, since you apparently won't apply that same standard to obesity or drug use, I won't buy it here either.

And keep in mind it was your profession that killed thousands of people early on by intubating unnecessarily, so acting like you have a lock on what's right for everyone is just arrogant. In the same vein, big pharma has killed hundreds of thousands with FDA support and approval.

It's essential to question, our lives do depend on it sometimes.

Not exactly. What we didn’t expect was to not be supported and compensated by our employers for the increased work demands, uncomfortable working environment, and severely limited staff that makes it impossible to take care of all the patients they keep accepting.
That's unfortunate. My job brings me in contact with nurses from ucla and cedars Sinai regularly, and they report high earnings and loads of high paying job offers nationwide. Maybe you could look into it.

I appreciate what you do. I just wish it came without the side of 'my way or no way'.
 
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Hmmm, dude you are known yourself to be over-anxious about things most others find rather mundane. Your post here is a little ironic.
Exactly! You all know what a hypochondriac I am so if I'm calling bullshyt on this then it really must be BULL$HYT 😡
 
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Thanks for your post. It truly highlights the ignorance of some people who have zero experience with what actually happens with moderate and severe COVID infections. It must be nice to live inside your bubble of an alternate reality. Hospitals and healthcare workers would love nothing more than the notion of having to make up fake deaths, or to have this virus be no more threatening than the flu. You simply have zero grasp on what you’re talking about.

Numerous people are in fact dying despite the exhausting efforts of healthcare workers for close to 2 years now. Let’s not forget that nobody is forcing COVID patients to go the the ER or get admitted. They are MORE than welcome to just stay at home and ride it out like a champ if they don’t trust or appreciate what we have to offer.

Ironic? Possibly…

Moronic is the first word that comes to mind. Along with several others that I will keep to myself..
Yeah ok sheep. You are so full of crap it's unbelievable. The united states government even admitted on live television that they are counting all secondary deaths as "covid". Any kind of death that includes pneumonia goes down as covid. Any kind of death that has similar symptoms as covid is considered covid. Not to mention all the page offs the hospitals are getting. How about back in April 2020 at the height of the "pandemic" where people were filming their local emergency rooms and all the tents that were built and literally nobody was there yet there was nurses pumping out tiktok videos. You are a complete idiot and are a tool for this evil system that has enslaved the population. No go get vaxxed because you DEFINITELY deserve to be
 
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Thank you! Yeah, I agree with a majority of that as well. I fully support alternative therapies (prophylactic or acute) and have added a few of those supplements into my own regimen despite being vaccinated. Truth be told, I don’t much like getting sick with anything period! Alternative pharmaceuticals could also use some evolution. It will be interesting to see how the antiviral pills coming out will be received. I haven’t researched them enough myself yet to form much of an opinion, but I anticipate there will still be hesitation to those as well. I’m sure there already is ;)

The problem is that there are still far too many people who are obviously at high risk that don’t get vaccinated, and you know they aren’t all that invested in taking supplements or other means to optimize their state of health. When they end up in the hospital with COVID, they monopolize an immense amount of resources that makes all hospital staff and the general patient population suffer the consequences. It’s not just about them and their choice as it does have a large impact on others. To say we are tired is an understatement and I can’t even put it into words. I feel very trapped in my job (some of which are personal reasons), and I am very much suffering.

Yesterday was a terrible day at work and while I am off today, I haven’t had any appetite and can’t even bring myself to workout- which is something I love. The following is a quote from a non healthcare worker that I believe came from Twitter:

“I can’t imagine how infuriating it must be to be a doctor/healthcare worker in a society where people don't trust you enough to listen to you but trust you enough to feel entitled to your care when their poor choices inevitably land them to the ICU.”

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality we have to struggle with..
Funny you speak about people needing to be "vaccinated". Funny how this "omicron variant" was discovered in south africa yet it's all over the world but the only people who are allowed to travel are the vaccinated or ones who tested negative on a PCR test so it looks like you're the problem. Covid is the biggest hoax of the century. Stop peddling your bullshyt
 
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The only thing that brings joy to my heart is knowing that the vaccine is literally an experimental gene therapy that's gonna kill alot of people, specifically the scumbags who are shilling this hoax which is taking away the rights and freedoms all over the western world. It brings be joy to know that you'll all get what you deserve due to your ignorance and blind trust in this beast system
 

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This is retarded. Covid is literally the flu. There is 0 evidence of a "pandemic" but all the evidence in the world of government and media manipulation and deceit. In a real pandemic the government doesn't make up fake deaths to try to inflate the death count and hospitals don't kill people with experimental treatments and then blame "covid". You and wife will be fine. Its literally the flu. Throw away your tv set for gods sake
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The only thing that brings joy to my heart is knowing that the vaccine is literally an experimental gene therapy that's gonna kill alot of people, specifically the scumbags who are shilling this hoax which is taking away the rights and freedoms all over the western world. It brings be joy to know that you'll all get what you deserve due to your ignorance and blind trust in this beast system
I call it the satan stab
 
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CoViD PaTiEnT oN a VeNtiLaToR.
>Hospital puts patient on a ventilator drowning him in oxygen
>Patient dies
>Covid.exe

Gotta love how the healthcare system literally murders people then blames some made-up disease. Covid is literally a religion at this point and their followers are extremely dangerous.
Inject people with mystery chemicals that kill them. "Perfectly normal for 17 year old to have heart attacks. They just need another booster" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jesus christ I hate you 🤣
 
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Most hypochondriacs should avoid the stab as it's causing blood clots
I'm a hypochondriac and I have anxiety which is why I basically only use test and primo and maybe some anavar here and there but I'll tell u this, if I had the choose between the vaxx or tren, I'd Inject the whole fucking bottle of tren without thinking twice
 
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Thank you! Yeah, I agree with a majority of that as well. I fully support alternative therapies (prophylactic or acute) and have added a few of those supplements into my own regimen despite being vaccinated. Truth be told, I don’t much like getting sick with anything period! Alternative pharmaceuticals could also use some evolution. It will be interesting to see how the antiviral pills coming out will be received. I haven’t researched them enough myself yet to form much of an opinion, but I anticipate there will still be hesitation to those as well. I’m sure there already is ;)

The problem is that there are still far too many people who are obviously at high risk that don’t get vaccinated, and you know they aren’t all that invested in taking supplements or other means to optimize their state of health. When they end up in the hospital with COVID, they monopolize an immense amount of resources that makes all hospital staff and the general patient population suffer the consequences. It’s not just about them and their choice as it does have a large impact on others. To say we are tired is an understatement and I can’t even put it into words. I feel very trapped in my job (some of which are personal reasons), and I am very much suffering.

Yesterday was a terrible day at work and while I am off today, I haven’t had any appetite and can’t even bring myself to workout- which is something I love. The following is a quote from a non healthcare worker that I believe came from Twitter:

“I can’t imagine how infuriating it must be to be a doctor/healthcare worker in a society where people don't trust you enough to listen to you but trust you enough to feel entitled to your care when their poor choices inevitably land them to the ICU.”

While that may sound harsh, that’s the reality we have to struggle with..
We’ve run so many medicals - of COVID positive civilians, majority aren’t vaccinated, that ALS EMS is called for transfer. Couldn’t tell you their outcome. Those not in the field generally have a different outlook as those immersed in it.
 
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We’ve run so many medicals - of COVID positive civilians, majority aren’t vaccinated, that ALS EMS is called for transfer. Couldn’t tell you their outcome. Those not in the field generally have a different outlook as those immersed in it.
tbh medical workers got shafted with remdesivir
 

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