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Tren e or Tren hex??

LondonerTWBULLY

LondonerTWBULLY

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Hi I’m going to run testosterone enanthate and Tren but don’t know which to use enanthate or hex?
I can get either and hex is more money but if better I’ll happily pay the extra.
thanks for looking and hope someone who has run both can enlighten me:)
 
You probably can’t source real hex (it’s extremely rare now) so if you’re buying from a random guy or UGL go with E. If you know you have real hex which I doubt then hex is solid.
 
Keifei hex may not be pharma but it’s a great ugl and my source is great used for years.
why is hex rare?
my source has 5 other different labs that sell hex,
med tech, pharmaqo, hilma biocare, rohm and genesis.
but keifei pharma I’ve chosen this time round.
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
Keifei hex may not be pharma but it’s a great ugl and my source is great used for years.
why is hex rare?
my source has 5 other different labs that sell hex,
med tech, pharmaqo, hilma biocare, rohm and genesis.
but keifei pharma I’ve chosen this time round.
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It’s rare because it was made by vets and isn’t really existent anymore. The truth is unless you’re extremely lucky and your source is world class it’s going to be tren E In it and the reason it’s so easy to simply sell tren hex (more expensive) as tren E Is because it’s impossible to even realize or notice.
 
Mathb33 said:
It’s rare because it was made by vets and isn’t really existent anymore. The truth is unless you’re extremely lucky and your source is world class it’s going to be tren E In it and the reason it’s so easy to simply sell tren hex (more expensive) as tren E Is because it’s impossible to even realize or notice.
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So in terms of gains Tren E would give similar but just different Esther?
I thought hex would be on another level looking at the price difference:)
I read hex is a more stable version of Tren so would be ideal if legit.
so would you wait for Balkan Tren hex to be safe?
or run Tren E?
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
So in terms of gains Tren E would give similar but just different Esther?
I thought hex would be on another level looking at the price difference:)
I read hex is a more stable version of Tren so would be ideal if legit.
so would you wait for Balkan Tren hex to be safe?
or run Tren E?
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Test is test with any ester it’s the same thing for tren bro! How could a different ester give different results!
 
Mathb33 said:
Test is test with any ester it’s the same thing for tren bro! How could a different ester give different results!
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Was asking because of the price difference never ran Tren before.
then what justifies the price tag?
Also test prop and enanthate gave me different gains too….
maybe it’s because longer Esters retain more nitrogen(muscle growth) per day then short Esters
Long Esters also cause greater suppression on the gonadal axis and metabolic functions.
long esters cause a higher rise in estrogen too hence why you get bloat with enanthat and not prop.
so yes you can get different results with different esters.
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
Hi I’m going to run testosterone enanthate and Tren but don’t know which to use enanthate or hex?
I can get either and hex is more money but if better I’ll happily pay the extra.
thanks for looking and hope someone who has run both can enlighten me:)
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What is the difference between the two? New and still learning.
 
I would go with tren ace.

Even though some may not like my advice, it hits you hard, gains are insaaaane, and if you dont like it it can be out of your system in a matter of 3 days.

Btw i ran it with test E, no biggie. Pinning both in the same syringe.

Watch your hair. My thinned out like crazy on test e/tren a.
 
CroLifter said:
I would go with tren ace.

Even though some may not like my advice, it hits you hard, gains are insaaaane, and if you dont like it it can be out of your system in a matter of 3 days.

Btw i ran it with test E, no biggie. Pinning both in the same syringe.

Watch your hair. My thinned out like crazy on test e/tren a.
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How often would I need to pin ace?
as I ran prop on first cycle and the pip was constant.
twice a week or would it be eod?
ive Read hair loss is temporary if not in genes( hope so anyway) :)
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
How often would I need to pin ace?
as I ran prop on first cycle and the pip was constant.
twice a week or would it be eod?
ive Read hair loss is temporary if not in genes( hope so anyway) :)
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It can be run EOD.
I never had pip from tren ace but keep in mind i dont get pip from test prop either. Yes read that right.

The thing is you are already well into your cycle, so if you wanna add sth i would definitely go with sth fast acting.


Well... For me it stayed thinned out. Not just receeding hairline (which i am getting over the years) but test/tren really thinned out whole top of my head.
 
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CroLifter said:
It can be run EOD.
I never had pip from tren ace but keep in mind i dont get pip from test prop either. Yes read that right.

The thing is you are already well into your cycle, so if you wanna add sth i would definitely go with sth fast acting.


Well... For me it stayed thinned out. Not just receeding hairline (which i am getting over the years) but test/tren really thinned out whole top of my head.
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I’m still traumatised from my prop cycle had The John Wayne walk till pct.
id go with prop and ace but I only inject glutes or quads I’ve never Injected any other site.
my hair did thin slightly I just grew the top longer, died it darker n with tons of wax n spray it looks Thicker:)
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
I’m still traumatised from my prop cycle had The John Wayne walk till pct.
id go with prop and ace but I only inject glutes or quads I’ve never Injected any other site.
my hair did thin slightly I just grew the top longer, died it darker n with tons of wax n spray it looks Thicker:)
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Bro ace tren or hex you won’t see a difference. E and hex might hold more water since it’s a longer ester but once that is cleared the results and "gains" are the same because it’s the same fucking drug lol!
 
Mathb33 said:
Bro ace tren or hex you won’t see a difference. E and hex might hold more water since it’s a longer ester but once that is cleared the results and "gains" are the same because it’s the same fucking drug lol!
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test prop gave me less overall gain than my enathate cycles.
maybe bad batch maybe not?
a scientist named Reifstein and his team conducted a study Invalid Link Removed. The results of these studies were that Test Enanthate resulted in total nitrogen retention of 1.76g/day vs Propionate only 1.02g/day. They also found that the duration of anabolic activity was 33 days with test e and 12 days with prop. These were with the same doses 200mgs of each. Overall, the longer ester retains more nitrogen (muscle gain) per day then short esters, and remains active in the body for much longer. If something causes higher levels of nitrogen retention, and hangs around in your body longer, it's going to be more anabolic.
many of you know that using testosterone increases Growth hormone (GH) and Insulin like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) levels to a degree. But did you know that the increase in these hormones are Invalid Link Removed, [Invalid Link Removed]? Going back, we know that long esters cause greater increases in estrogen, and estrogen increases GH and igf-1. So using long esters will result in greater muscle gain due to the factors I presented earlier, and also the increase in GH and IGF-1 levels that are much higher when using long esters. And as we all know HGH and IGF-1 are two very anabolic hormones. So higher levels of these hormones means more gains in size and strength.
Invalid Link Removed. The short ester Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (NPP) had greater peak plasma levels then its long estered counterpart. And suppression was greater with the long estered nandrolone deconate (deca-durabolin), and the anabolic effect was greater with the long ester (deca). Most people who have ran both Deca and NPP can say NPP causes less water retention. And the people I've talked to still say Deca is superior for muscle gain despite the same parent hormone, just different ester lengths. So its seems this the ester length and its effects on the drugs behavior remains true among many different hormones.
 
" prop gave me less gains than my enanthate cycle " bro no disrespect but you need to stop saying stuff like that you sound like you’re a complete beginner. That’s like saying Monday I ate a burger and felt good and Friday I ate the same burger and felt horrible. There’s a million variable. First... who ever guaranteed you progress would be the same from a cycle to another? Second... E Was better? You probably (like everybody) mixed up excess of intra muscular water , retention and bloat as gains when it’s not. Then lifestyle, sleep, training regimen, how your body took the drugs on that specific cycle compared to the other one, how you body handled aromatisation this cycle vs the other one, etc etc etc. It makes no sense what you’re trying to advance here. Test is test. Tren is tren.
 
Also... you obviously don’t understand the study you just posted because it absolutely doesn’t refute your argument of prop builds more tissue and gave me more gains than enanthate.
 
Deca is not superior to NPP in any shape of form.. in fact nobody fucking runs deca anymore almost 0 pros does because it carries (OVVIOUSLY) the same profile of potential muscle growth as the deca ester simply with less water and bloat. Reading your posts and your logic I think you have a hard time understanding gains = lean tissue and doesn’t = weight on scale.
 
Mathb33 said:
Deca is not superior to NPP in any shape of form.. in fact nobody fucking runs deca anymore almost 0 pros does because it carries (OVVIOUSLY) the same profile of potential muscle growth as the deca ester simply with less water and bloat. Reading your posts and your logic I think you have a hard time understanding gains = lean tissue and doesn’t = weight on scale.
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ive gone from 146lbs to over 210lbs in 4 years and haven’t been ON for 7 months so I know something….
also I quoted a world renowned scientist that studied esters but the fella on anabolic minds knows more😂
have you got a pic of your incredible physique as you must be built like fûcking heman as you know everything.
 
As far as Tren-E vs Tren-A, even though you may be taking the same MG of the same drug. When you logically think about it, you could expect Ace to yield greater side effects, also superior gains.

As well all know, the Enanthate ester is a much slower releasing ester than Acetate. Which therefore requires less injecting frequency. While Acetate is much faster releasing ester which requires at the very minimum every other day injecting, if not everyday. Therefore when you inject Ace your “highs” are going to be much higher than Enanthate.

Let’s take caffeine for example, if you take 500mg of caffeine all at once (Acetate) the side effects are going to be far superior if you take 500mg of caffeine slowly throughout a day (Enanthate). Even though at the end of the day your still taking In the exact same mg of the same drug, the effects of the drug can greatly vary.
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
test prop gave me less overall gain than my enathate cycles.
maybe bad batch maybe not?
a scientist named Reifstein and his team conducted a study Invalid Link Removed. The results of these studies were that Test Enanthate resulted in total nitrogen retention of 1.76g/day vs Propionate only 1.02g/day. They also found that the duration of anabolic activity was 33 days with test e and 12 days with prop. These were with the same doses 200mgs of each. Overall, the longer ester retains more nitrogen (muscle gain) per day then short esters, and remains active in the body for much longer. If something causes higher levels of nitrogen retention, and hangs around in your body longer, it's going to be more anabolic.
many of you know that using testosterone increases Growth hormone (GH) and Insulin like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) levels to a degree. But did you know that the increase in these hormones are Invalid Link Removed, [Invalid Link Removed]? Going back, we know that long esters cause greater increases in estrogen, and estrogen increases GH and igf-1. So using long esters will result in greater muscle gain due to the factors I presented earlier, and also the increase in GH and IGF-1 levels that are much higher when using long esters. And as we all know HGH and IGF-1 are two very anabolic hormones. So higher levels of these hormones means more gains in size and strength.
Invalid Link Removed. The short ester Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (NPP) had greater peak plasma levels then its long estered counterpart. And suppression was greater with the long estered nandrolone deconate (deca-durabolin), and the anabolic effect was greater with the long ester (deca). Most people who have ran both Deca and NPP can say NPP causes less water retention. And the people I've talked to still say Deca is superior for muscle gain despite the same parent hormone, just different ester lengths. So its seems this the ester length and its effects on the drugs behavior remains true among many different hormones.
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Higher increase in igf 1 is possible if estrogen lvls are higher.

Adding tren and peptides/gh on top of high estro is da sh1t for growth.
 
LondonerTWBULLY said:
Pharmaqo do a Tren blen that’s been tested
are these tests trusted?Invalid Link Removed
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I mean truthfully those tests don’t mean sh1t, who is to say they didn’t just test a single good product and then there sending you out bad stuff, not to that say it is.

I just noticed this is a old thread, who else just gets bored laying in bed at night and scrolls through the anabolic section on here.

I need a girlfriend
 
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