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why do PH instead of steroids

ananas

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why?
do they have less side effects?
easier recovery? no pct?

or is it for people who fear needles?
or for hypocrite liars who think they're still natty if they take PH?
 
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Legality issues. For me, it was convenience. I feel like once I get comfortable pinning, I will never want to get off (I'm talking blast and cruise, trt for the rest of my life). This is from me understanding my own personality, and reading from others' experiences.

Nowadays, I like the andro prohormones. I feel like they're not too strong (like superdrol, h drol, dmz and epistane I used to take) and the gains are easier to maintain after a cycle.
 
None of the above. Legality is the only reason for me. Underground lab, scheduled drug delivered to mailbox, chance of getting seized. I've actually had items seized before and not only did I lose the money for the products, UPS tried to charge me a $70 customs fee. LOL! I was like WTF you want to charge me for seizing my items!
 
CasperKValentine said:
None of the above. Legality is the only reason for me. Underground lab, scheduled drug delivered to mailbox, chance of getting seized. I've actually had items seized before and not only did I lose the money for the products, UPS tried to charge me a $70 customs fee. LOL! I was like WTF you want to charge me for seizing my items!
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Wow I didn't know they would do that. Did you really have to pay that $70??
 
I think you nailed most of the reasons for many.

Some PH's do have less sides, than oral steroids for example. The non methylated ones at least. Injectable steroids are another story though, but many don't enjoy pinning or at least think they don't like it before they try it out.

They do require a pct though and generally aren't really less harsh on hpta, if running a proper cycle.

For some it's the easier access. Sourcing illegal steroids can be difficult and even moreso to find a reliable source, that you trust. Although we've seen that you can't allways trust the PH brands either, it's still easier to find feedback on PH brands and products.

And there's at least one member here who insists he's a natty while he's running MK-677, so I guess the hypocrite liars is true too.
 
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cronikgains said:
Wow I didn't know they would do that. Did you really have to pay that $70??
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I didn't pay them a dime. The whole situation was really weird. It was some Hdrol from the UK that I ordered. UPS first contacted me about some ridiculous customs fee of I think $150. I told them that was crazy and was way more then the package was worth. Then they said they would adjust and lower the fee. It was like they were holding my package for ransom! After some more go around, in my mind I just dropped it and chalked it up as a loss. A few weeks later I got a notice from customs that the item was seized because it was mislabeled. A few days later I received the $70 bill from UPS. I just shook my head and tossed it in the garbage. Never heard another peep. That was several years ago.
 
KvanH said:
...at least think they don't like it before they try it out.

And there's at least one member here who insists he's a natty while he's running MK-677, so I guess the hypocrite liars is true too.
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Yep after the first few pins it's as easy as pie and can actually become not necessarily enjoyable but I think therapeutic would be a good word to describe it. Now I'd much rather give myself a shot then get one from a nurse.

Haha wasn't the MK-677 guy the one who his mom was asking if he was natty? LOL! That whole thread was off the hook. I couldn't tell if the guy was serious or not.
 
CasperKValentine said:
Yep after the first few pins it's as easy as pie and can actually become not necessarily enjoyable but I think therapeutic would be a good word to describe it. Now I'd much rather give myself a shot then get one from a nurse.

Haha wasn't the MK-677 guy the one who his mom was asking if he was natty? LOL! That whole thread was off the hook. I couldn't tell if the guy was serious or not.
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Yeah, that was not the best wording by me actually. I mean many think they dislike it, but if decide to try, they are ok with it.

Yeah he has more than one hilarious thread. Selfishly I hope he is being serious. It's more fun if he is 😄
 
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KvanH said:
And there's at least one member here who insists he's a natty while he's running MK-677, so I guess the hypocrite liars is true too.
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Will mk-677 results in bigger visual change than creatine? If no, then it is natty.
I am myself on mk-677 and consider myself natty.
 
ananas said:
Will mk-677 results in bigger visual change than creatine? If no, then it is natty.
I am myself on mk-677 and consider myself natty.
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Welp, this was amusing turn of events 😃

I was going to write why MK isn't a natty product, but then realised you're probably jjkk trolling via another account. You're a funny dude.
 
KvanH said:
Sorry, I'm not going to bite this time. I'm hoping for more meaningfull content for you in your life 🙏
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there is nothing to bite.

I just explained you why mk-677 is natty, imo. You shall now explain why you think it isn't.

mk isn't even a ped. it doesn't enhence the physic, only recovery. creatine is a stronger ped than mk
 
ananas said:
there is nothing to bite.

I just explained you why mk-677 is natty, imo. You shall now explain why you think it isn't.

mk isn't even a ped. it doesn't enhence the physic, only recovery. creatine is a stronger ped than mk
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He's not required to explain why he thinks anything. Your logic that it's natty because it's weaker then creatine is just stupid. Looks to me like nobody gives a crap what you think and nobody feels like arguing with you.
 
CasperKValentine said:
He's not required to explain why he thinks anything. Your logic that it's natty because it's weaker then creatine is just stupid. Looks to me like nobody gives a crap what you think and nobody feels like arguing with you.
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keep your useless insults and lack of arguments for yourself.
you have nothing better to do?
 
ananas said:
Will mk-677 results in bigger visual change than creatine? If no, then it is natty.
I am myself on mk-677 and consider myself natty.
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Is your definition of "natural" based only on the degree to which a compound imparts physique changes, and nothing more?

MK-677 will produce far more profound visual changes to one's physique than EPO. Therefore, EPO is natural. Would you agree with that?

For me, 20mg/day of methasterone (Superdrol) produces greater visual changes to my physique than 250mg/wk of long ester testosterone. Therefore, I can be considered natural despite that testosterone usage. Agreed?

You also wrote:

mk isn't even a ped. it doesn't enhence the physic, only recovery.
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PED = Performance Enhancing Drug(s). They all enhance recovery to some degree. And what is a by-product of enhanced recovery? Better/increased performance (better response to all types of training, more gains from your gym efforts, etc).

MK-677 is very effective at increasing GH and IGF-1 levels. Do you believe that the elevation of those hormones over the long term will not contribute to favorable (and potentially profound, depending on one's response to the drug) body composition changes? Because if so, you're denying what has already been shown in human studies.
 
Alan1 said:
Is your definition of "natural" based only on the degree to which a compound imparts physique changes, and nothing more?

MK-677 will produce far more profound visual changes to one's physique than EPO. Therefore, EPO is natural. Would you agree with that?

For me, 20mg/day of methasterone (Superdrol) produces greater visual changes to my physique than 250mg/wk of long ester testosterone. Therefore, I can be considered natural despite that testosterone usage. Agreed?

You also wrote:



PED = Performance Enhancing Drug(s). They all enhance recovery to some degree. And what is a by-product of enhanced recovery? Better/increased performance (better response to all types of training, more gains from your gym efforts, etc).

MK-677 is very effective at increasing GH and IGF-1 levels. Do you believe that the elevation of those hormones over the long term will not contribute to favorable (and potentially profound, depending on one's response to the drug) body composition changes? Because if so, you're denying what has already been shown in human studies.
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You made some excellent points but don't waste your time on this guy he's a well known cuck/troll around here and probably many other forums.
 
why do hookers ?
bc you can do stuff with them that you cant do to the mother of your child

crap wrong thread
 
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