Ostarine and anavar with test? Tren A subcutaneous?

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Another question for you guys...so I ordered my dbol and tren it came today but they've sent me t-bol instead of d-bol. Any of you guys have experience with it? I know it's technically dianabol with an atom or carbon removed resulting in less water retention but I'm unsure what dose use t-bol at? I also only wanted to kick start for 4 weeks? I'm a little bit gutted because I love the "on" feeling I get from dbol I'm assuming I'm not going to get this with t-bol but I've never used it.
Have you happened to use Halodrol? It's a PH to t-bol. I haven't used either, but based on my research d-bol and t-bol are not much a like. T-bol doesn't aromatize and is a farely dry compound. Not heard of similar euphoria either, that some people experience with d-bol. 4 weeks would be a bit short time for t-bol generally I think. It's a good compound for increasing athletic performance and provides lean gains.

Jon Jones likes it 😉 And the Eastern Germany olympic team = )
 
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Another question for you guys...so I ordered my dbol and tren it came today but they've sent me t-bol instead of d-bol. Any of you guys have experience with it? I know it's technically dianabol with an atom or carbon removed resulting in less water retention but I'm unsure what dose use t-bol at? I also only wanted to kick start for 4 weeks? I'm a little bit gutted because I love the "on" feeling I get from dbol I'm assuming I'm not going to get this with t-bol but I've never used it.
ive run tbol bud, totally different compound

it’s mild by comparison but brings some good strength gains. Not much in the way of size, obviously doesn’t add water weight either. Fewer sides.

I actually have some in my stash for when I want a gentler ride, I’d personally dose at 100mg a day but I always need highish doses on orals to elicit the response wanted. 50mg the min I would bother with.

for the record I think tbol is a great compound but if you wanted dbol and everything it does then you’ll be disappointed
 

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Another question for you guys...so I ordered my dbol and tren it came today but they've sent me t-bol instead of d-bol. Any of you guys have experience with it? I know it's technically dianabol with an atom or carbon removed resulting in less water retention but I'm unsure what dose use t-bol at? I also only wanted to kick start for 4 weeks? I'm a little bit gutted because I love the "on" feeling I get from dbol I'm assuming I'm not going to get this with t-bol but I've never used it.
I would honestly prefer Tbol. It has a longer half life (actually the longest half life, to my knowledge); needs to be dosed between 50 and 100 mg
 

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You should really be increasing test, and/or tren dosage. These are the two compounds that your body will gain the most from
 
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ive run tbol bud, totally different compound

it’s mild by comparison but brings some good strength gains. Not much in the way of size, obviously doesn’t add water weight either. Fewer sides.

I actually have some in my stash for when I want a gentler ride, I’d personally dose at 100mg a day but I always need highish doses on orals to elicit the response wanted. 50mg the min I would bother with.

for the record I think tbol is a great compound but if you wanted dbol and everything it does then you’ll be disappointed
Damn that's a bummer...at first I thought I couldn't tolerate dbol but I used 50mg the first time I used it like a moron and after week 1 I dropped it to 20mg and it just flooded me with energy, strength, pumps and just a general all round awesome feeling😞. I felt like I could feel dbol after 1 day aswell.

I've got a feeling 100mg a day might be slightly high for me if you say you usually need a high dose to get what you want from orals. I generally respond better to low dose orals for some strange reason. For example anavar at 80mg left me unable to finish workouts or work properly through the day...my forearm's, calves, shoulder's and quad's would get that pumped I could barely move them or flex them it felt like cramp but without the pain. But 40-50mg was awesome.

I guess I've got the decision of not to kick start or to use 50mg for 4 weeks and see how I get on thanks again for the advice.
 

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Have you happened to use Halodrol? It's a PH to t-bol. I haven't used either, but based on my research d-bol and t-bol are not much a like. T-bol doesn't aromatize and is a farely dry compound. Not heard of similar euphoria either, that some people experience with d-bol. 4 weeks would be a bit short time for t-bol generally I think. It's a good compound for increasing athletic performance and provides lean gains.

Jon Jones likes it 😉 And the Eastern Germany olympic team = )
Lol!

Tbol has a crazy long half life, and the metabolite stayed in his system for like two years 🙃
 
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I would honestly prefer Tbol. It has a longer half life (actually the longest half life, to my knowledge); needs to be dosed between 50 and 100 mg
i think is massively overlooked. Something like a test, deca, tbol run would be almost side free for most people. nice solid strength and size gains.

just not similar to dbol at all 🤷
 
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Another question for you guys...so I ordered my dbol and tren it came today but they've sent me t-bol instead of d-bol. Any of you guys have experience with it? I know it's technically dianabol with an atom or carbon removed resulting in less water retention but I'm unsure what dose use t-bol at? I also only wanted to kick start for 4 weeks? I'm a little bit gutted because I love the "on" feeling I get from dbol I'm assuming I'm not going to get this with t-bol but I've never used it.
You got lucky then! Way more expensive drug, for a reason. Cleaner more keepable gains. You won’t get the explosive onset of water like Dbol or the androgenic surge that will cause the euphoria and libido, but you will get steady performance increases that will manifest in your training as lbs on the bar - which leads to more true tissue being built.

It will transfer into a more progressive cycle vs a quick flash in the pan at the beginning.
 

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Jon Jones likes it 😉 And the Eastern Germany olympic team = )
They were actually using clostebol; the 4 chloro derivative of T

Halodrol/ Tbol are much stronger; being the 4 chloro derivative of boldenone
 
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I guess I've got the decision of not to kick start or to use 50mg for 4 weeks and see how I get on thanks again for the advice.
Just up your test a bit, mate. High test will give the same euphoria and energy

As for the cycle layout;

Weeks 1 through 12
Test E/ Tren E @ 250:250 (unless you acquire more test/ run 350:250)

Weeks 4 through 10
Tbol/ Anavar @ 40 mg/ 40 mg

Get some test prop and run @ 50 mg ED for last two weeks; as the enanthate ester clears
 
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Just up your test a bit, mate. High test will give the same euphoria and energy

As for the cycle layout;

Weeks 1 through 12
Test E/ Tren E @ 250:250 (unless you acquire more test/ run 350:250)

Weeks 4 through 10
Tbol/ Anavar @ 40 mg/ 40 mg

Get some test prop and run @ 50 mg ED for last two weeks; as the enanthate ester clears
I've got more test and tren than I need so what you suggest is possible. I planned on 350mg test, 200mg tren. But I have 30ml of test E @ 250mg/ml and 20ml of tren E @ 200mg/ml.

It never dawned on me to stack t-bol with anavar this may be a better idea but not something I've done before I've never use 2 orals at once. Although I appreciate your advice for personal preference I would probably run it from week 8-14, stop enanthate week 11 and leave the orals in my system while the enanthate clears, im not a fan of ED injections anymore lol.

Another **** up that happened I ordered 100 10mg dbol tabs because I only needed 1.5-2 tabs per day for 4 weeks. Now I have 100 10mg tabs of t-bol. I would have to run 30mg per day to get roughly 5 weeks out of it. I'm sure 30mg per day should have added benefits when stacked with anavar though.

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I would go 40 per day minimum. Start your anavar sooner and use the Tbol more towards the end to make up for the oils clearing. Say you use Var the last 5-6 weeks, but Tbol only the last 4 - does that make sense?
 
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I would go 40 per day minimum. Start your anavar sooner and use the Tbol more towards the end to make up for the oils clearing. Say you use Var the last 5-6 weeks, but Tbol only the last 4 - does that make sense?
That makes perfect sense mate, thank you. Would you drop the dose of anavar to compensate for the t-bol? I've never run two orals together before but I'm assuming these 2 are less hepatoxic than what 100mg of anadrol is😅?

So just an example of what I mean,
Anavar @ 40mg for the first 2 weeks and drop it to be 20-30mg for the next 4 weeks when it's stacked with t-bol?

Thanks again!
 
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That makes perfect sense mate, thank you. Would you drop the dose of anavar to compensate for the t-bol? I've never run two orals together before but I'm assuming these 2 are less hepatoxic than what 100mg of anadrol is?

So just an example of what I mean,
Anavar @ 40mg for the first 2 weeks and drop it to be 20-30mg for the next 4 weeks when it's stacked with t-bol?

Thanks again!
No, you are ramping the total oral dosage combined to account for the declining blood levels of the oils that are clearing. And to hopefully have a greater anabolic signal than the oils alone presented earlier, as your are now at the end of cycle (READ: least likely time to grow without greatest stimulus).

Total dosage/anabolic firepower should always progress through a cycle. Tapering down is wasted time. Orals are very potent & they really **** up your lipids - this is why they most belong at the end.
 

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