Icon 1, dermacrine +?

[apnuttet]

Currently using icon 1 and dermacrine. Was considering adding osterine and mk or carderine to this stack. Thoughts for lean gains. My thoughts are with clomid on hand pct, I want to get the most out of this. Im 34 and lift 5-6 days and run around 25 miles a week. Tracking calories and earring at maintenance while keeping protein over 1g per lb of body weight.

 

[cheftepesh1]

Those are some options. May want to consider 4ad or epi.

 

[apnuttet]

Would adding 4ad be too much dhea with icon 1 and derm?

 

[KvanH]

Would adding 4ad be too much dhea with icon 1 and derm?

No. There's a big difference in 1-DHEA, 4-DHEA and DHEA. But if you decide to add 4-Andro, I would replace the Derma with it. You can save the Derma for later. It can be utilized in many different situations and stacks or run solo. Androsterone and/or Epiandro would fit well with them also. Osta is meh.

 

[Afi140]

For your gains I would probably my run ultra hard which is both Epiandro Anne androsterone. Will help a bunch and stack perfectly with your 1/dermacrine

 

[thebigt]

For your gains I would probably my run ultra hard which is both Epiandro Anne androsterone. Will help a bunch and stack perfectly with your 1/dermacrine

ultra hard would be a great addition to icon one/dermacrine...2bottles=2 months is the best way to run icon one as it really gets going in 5th week. if looking to save some cash just run the icon one/dermacrine and add ultra hard in on week 5.

i added ultra hard in on 5th week of my icon one cycle and almost immediately felt more energy and libido.

btw-if you use one of our rep codes it will save you 20% off all products at iconic formulations

 

[apnuttet]

Thanks guys. Going to add the Ultra Hard when it comes in. Appreciate the promo code as well!

 

[thebigt]

Thanks guys. Going to add the Ultra Hard when it comes in. Appreciate the promo code as well!

i would be willing to bet you will feel the difference when adding in ultra hard!!!

 

[KvanH]

i would be willing to bet you will feel the difference when adding in ultra hard!!!

Love me some Ultra Hard!

 

[LeanEngineer]

Thanks guys. Going to add the Ultra Hard when it comes in. Appreciate the promo code as well!

Excited to see how the Ultra Hard treats you!

 

[cheftepesh1]

I’m in for this

 

[semtex]

Doesn't Icon 1 already include Dhea?

 

[KvanH]

Doesn't Icon 1 already include Dhea?

Yep, and pregnenolone too. That's one of the reasons why I said to replace the Derma if choosing to add 4-Andro. But 1-Andro can induce pretty heavy lethargy to some users and so the dhea and preg in Icon 1 may not be enough for them, so some opt to add some Derma to it.

 

[cheftepesh1]

Yep, and pregnenolone too. That's one of the reasons why I said to replace the Derma if choosing to add 4-Andro. But 1-Andro can induce pretty heavy lethargy to some users and so the dhea and preg in Icon 1 may not be enough for them, so some opt to add some Derma to it.

I think this is good advice. Save the derm and go with the 4. You can always add the derm in later if you feel you need it.