Donald Trump running for president

[ax1]

I thought people in New York don’t drive... or is that just New York City?

Well thats a new one, lol

 

[ax1]

Outside of that city it’s rednecks, camo, and pickup trucks. Don’t let the NYC scene fool you.

My friend's neighbor owned his own tank....I remember the day he put it in front of his business with a 4 sale sign on it, it was hilarious.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

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Except, in this case, “the State” isn’t one county, it’s literally every country on earth, for several decades, even among counties who hate each other and have come incredibly close to blowing each other off the face of the earth on more than one occasion. But yes, clearly they are all in cahoots to lie about the moon landing because... because why exactly? What did Soviet Russia gain by going along with the US lie? Why not prove them wrong and then have a chance to win the Space Race? To make their enemy, the US, have a deep mistrust among their citizens and the media, government, and science? Why hasn’t China or North Korea exposed this lie yet to harm their rival/enemy the US?

This is just silly. A 9/11 conspiracy is one thing, since it’s really a single-country thing that at least SOME experts disagree with or have questions about, even if they are a small minority, but this asinine “theory” is beneath anyone with half a brain. It’s on the same level as the flat earth geniuses.

 

[thebigt]

So there are other political commentators who, instead of saying second hand smoke is fine like Rush did, say that drinking while pregnant, drunk driving, and sexual abuse are fine? If not, then you comparisons make no sense. You cant admit that Rush was really, really f**ked up on this point? Yes, other actions by parents are worse, but I don’t recall any political commentator actually saying any of them were fine, do you?

geez man, give it up...rush was on the radio for over 30 years at 3 hours everyday, if you think i would agree with every damned thing he sais in 30 years you are freaking nutz...if rush said that blowing 2nd hand smoke in kids faces then yes that is fucked up---i don't know what you are looking for me to say, it's not like i am the official rush limbaugh defender!!!

and yes, there are commentators who are in favor of legalizing all drugs, for them to think that none of those people will drive while using is insane, as well as abusing children or all kinds of 2nd hand actions that go with being stoned on drugs such as heroin.

you should know that i am a defender of children and animals and will not defend any action that harms them.

geez, it's like you are just arguing for the sake of arguing!!! i'm tired been out all night doing snow and just got home, not in the mood!!!

 

[puccah8808]

Nothing worse than a soy boy driving a Prius in camo crocs...maybe I should make this happen?

I thought people in New York don’t drive... or is that just New York City?

 

[muscleupcrohn]

geez man, give it up...rush was on the radio for over 30 years at 3 hours everyday, if you think i would agree with every damned thing he sais in 30 years you are freaking nutz...if rush said that blowing 2nd hand smoke in kids faces then yes that is fucked up---i don't know what you are looking for me to say, it's not like i am the official rush limbaugh defender!!!

and yes, there are commentators who are in favor of legalizing all drugs, for them to think that none of those people will drive while using is insane, as well as abusing children or all kinds of 2nd hand actions that go with being stoned on drugs such as heroin.

you should know that i am a defender of children and animals and will not defend any action that harms them.

geez, it's like you are just arguing for the sake of arguing!!! i'm tired been out all night doing snow and just got home, not in the mood!!!

Alcohol is legal to have and drink, but drinking and driving is not. Any other drug would obviously be treated the same. Legalizing weed doesn’t mean it’s legal to drive high on it man... and NO ONE has EVER abused anyone after drinking right? Maybe we should ban alcohol again, using your logic that it leads to people harming other people, which it unquestionably does. Prohibition worked so well the first time, after all...

 

[BamBam54]

Photos coming from the Rover on the surface of Mars. SUCCESS!!

Next we get to see if the Chinese are able to pull it off (they try in a couple of months)

 

[thebigt]

Alcohol is legal to have and drink, but drinking and driving is not. Any other drug would obviously be treated the same. Legalizing weed doesn’t mean it’s legal to drive high on it man... and NO ONE has EVER abused anyone after drinking right? Maybe we should ban alcohol again, using your logic that it leads to people harming other people, which it unquestionably does. Prohibition worked so well the first time, after all...

cigarette smoking is also legal-eh?

i am not advocating for taking away anything that people want to do, that is not where i was going---if rush being in favor of smoking leads you down the path of 2nd hand smoke then we should also hold those in favor of legalizing drugs accountable for 2nd hand actions that drugs lead to by your reasoning, right?

just like if we were to hold gun manufacturers accountable for what guns do then why not hold mcdonalds accountable for all of their trash along streets and highways?

 

[THOR 70]

Except, in this case, “the State” isn’t one county, it’s literally every country on earth, for several decades, even among counties who hate each other and have come incredibly close to blowing each other off the face of the earth on more than one occasion. But yes, clearly they are all in cahoots to lie about the moon landing because... because why exactly? What did Soviet Russia gain by going along with the US lie? Why not prove them wrong and then have a chance to win the Space Race? To make their enemy, the US, have a deep mistrust among their citizens and the media, government, and science? Why hasn’t China or North Korea exposed this lie yet to harm their rival/enemy the US?

This is just silly. A 9/11 conspiracy is one thing, since it’s really a single-country thing that at least SOME experts disagree with or have questions about, even if they are a small minority, but this asinine “theory” is beneath anyone with half a brain. It’s on the same level as the flat earth geniuses.

Your whole argument is based on what you have been programmed to think. “Big bad Russia and China are evil and out to get us!”

Massive international money and forces pull the strings and have all countries by the balls if they want. Everything isn’t as simple as you want to make it. You really think there isnt international coordination behind the scenes? Or if it’s not on CNN you don’t believe it?

I don’t really care if you believe it or not. The truth will eventually come to light.

 

[Jiigzz]

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"The election was stolen"

 

[THOR 70]

"The election was stolen"

Thanks Jiigzz. You’re always a top notch guy

 

[muscleupcrohn]

cigarette smoking is also legal-eh?

i am not advocating for taking away anything that people want to do, that is not where i was going---if rush being in favor of smoking leads you down the path of 2nd hand smoke then we should also hold those in favor of legalizing drugs accountable for 2nd hand actions that drugs lead to by your reasoning, right?

just like if we were to hold gun manufacturers accountable for what guns do then why not hold mcdonalds accountable for all of their trash along streets and highways?

IF these people claim that drinking doesn’t make you susceptible to abusing others sure. There’s a hell of a distinction between saying that smoking should be illegal and saying that second hand smoke is dangerous.

My complaint is NOT Rush saying that people should be ALLOWED to smoke, it’s him saying that it (second hand smoke) is HARMLESS to others.

If advocates of drug legalization say they are ENTIRELY WITHOUT POTENTIAL TO HARM OTHERS, then yeah, they are irresponsible, lying idiots. I agree with you on that.

And this has nothing to do with guns. What would be comparable is if you claimed that firing a gun into the air doesn’t put anyone’s life in danger, even though the bullet can come down and injure somebody. The gun manufacturer is NOT reasonable for misuse, and guns shouldn’t be illegal, but the idiot who fired the gun is an idiot, as is the person who told them it’s harmless to fire into the air for fun.

 

[ax1]

I thought people in New York don’t drive... or is that just New York City?

In 2023 they are going to start charging everybody a toll just for driving in a big part of lower Manhatten. They call it "congestion pricing" and its their way to stea....cough, to "reduce traffic."

 

[ax1]

IF these people claim that drinking doesn’t make you susceptible to abusing others sure. There’s a hell of a distinction between saying that smoking should be illegal and saying that second hand smoke is dangerous.

My complaint is NOT Rush saying that people should be ALLOWED to smoke, it’s him saying that it (second hand smoke) is HARMLESS to others.

If advocates of drug legalization say they are ENTIRELY WITHOUT POTENTIAL TO HARM OTHERS, then yeah, they are irresponsible, lying idiots. I agree with you on that.

And this has nothing to do with guns. What would be comparable is if you claimed that firing a gun into the air doesn’t put anyone’s life in danger, even though the bullet can come down and injure somebody. The gun manufacturer is NOT reasonable for misuse, and guns shouldn’t be illegal, but the idiot who fired the gun is an idiot, as is the person who told them it’s harmless to fire into the air for fun.

Not sure if it was mentioned, but he also was very hardcore war on drugs and wanted users to face harsher charges and then he got caught using drugs and being a substance abuser.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but he also was very hardcore war on drugs and wanted users to face harsher charges and then he got caught using drugs and being a substance abuser.

This. Pretty sure he also mocked and sang about gay people who got AIDS. Dude was a POS.

 

[puccah8808]

In 2023 they are going to start charging everybody a toll just for driving in a big part of lower Manhatten. They call it "congestion pricing" and its their way to stea....cough, to "reduce traffic."

That’s disgusting. They already charge a fcuking ridiculous rate for crossing over from Jersey!

 

[puccah8808]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but he also was very hardcore war on drugs and wanted users to face harsher charges and then he got caught using drugs and being a substance abuser.

For a second, I thought you were talking about Kamala.

 

[thebigt]

IF these people claim that drinking doesn’t make you susceptible to abusing others sure. There’s a hell of a distinction between saying that smoking should be illegal and saying that second hand smoke is dangerous.

My complaint is NOT Rush saying that people should be ALLOWED to smoke, it’s him saying that it (second hand smoke) is HARMLESS to others.

If advocates of drug legalization say they are ENTIRELY WITHOUT POTENTIAL TO HARM OTHERS, then yeah, they are irresponsible, lying idiots. I agree with you on that.

And this has nothing to do with guns. What would be comparable is if you claimed that firing a gun into the air doesn’t put anyone’s life in danger, even though the bullet can come down and injure somebody. The gun manufacturer is NOT reasonable for misuse, and guns shouldn’t be illegal, but the idiot who fired the gun is an idiot, as is the person who told them it’s harmless to fire into the air for fun.

ok, IF rush did say that 2nd hand smoke is harmless to others then i disagree with his saying this---like i said i had not listened to his show in quite some time- i was usually working when his show WAS on, and i looked at rush more as entertainment than hard facts-he always had some nice zingers about liberals.
1. the man is dead
2. rush isn't saying anything-he is dead
3, the man is dead
4. there are lots of idiots
5. i heard rush had quit smoking some time ago so it stands to reason he most likely revised his attitude towards cigarette smoke.
6.last but not least the man is dead

 

[ax1]

That’s disgusting. They already charge a fcuking ridiculous rate for crossing over from Jersey!

Its $16 if you use cash just to cross the George Washington Bridge or the tunnels into manhatten, at least its one way charge. With EZ its 11.75 or 13.75 depending on what time you cross!

The past few years we have gone to NYC less and less, we discovered there is alot to do on the Jersey side and usually stick there but we do go into the city more than a few times a year still.

 

[thebigt]

in january gas here was $2.18 a gallon....today it was $2.68 a gallon. i noticed grocery prices have also gone up.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

ok, IF rush did say that 2nd hand smoke is harmless to others then i disagree with his saying this---like i said i had not listened to his show in quite some time- i was usually working when his show WAS on, and i looked at rush more as entertainment than hard facts-he always had some nice zingers about liberals.
1. the man is dead
2. rush isn't saying anything-he is dead
3, the man is dead
4. there are lots of idiots
5. i heard rush had quit smoking some time ago so it stands to reason he most likely revised his attitude towards cigarette smoke.
6.last but not least the man is dead

In 2015 he said “Now, it’s true that everybody who smokes dies, but so does everyone who eats carrots.” And “There’s no … major sickness component associated with secondhand smoke. It may irritate you, and you may not like it, but it will not make you sick, and it will not kill you.”

Rush Limbaugh denied smoking risks in 2015: ‘Smokers aren’t killing anybody’

The conservative radio host has long extolled the glamour and societal benefits of smoking, while downplaying its dangers.

www.denverpost.com

He’s also mocked Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s, and mocked the deaths of gay people with AIDS.

Rush was a total POS. Yes, he’s dead, as you said, which is why I am now saying he WAS a POS, not he IS a POS. Thank you for clarifying that.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Your whole argument is based on what you have been programmed to think. “Big bad Russia and China are evil and out to get us!”

Massive international money and forces pull the strings and have all countries by the balls if they want. Everything isn’t as simple as you want to make it. You really think there isnt international coordination behind the scenes? Or if it’s not on CNN you don’t believe it?

I don’t really care if you believe it or not. The truth will eventually come to light.

And what, exactly, do “massive international money and forces” stand to gain by perpetuating this lie?

And now I’m confused. Regarding 9/11 you claim it IS simple and obvious, that I over-complicated things. Now you’re accusing me of oversimplifying them? You move the goalposts incessantly man...

Just because YOU don’t have the intelligence to understand how man got to the moon (or how thrusters work in space) doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

 

[thebigt]

In 2015 he said “Now, it’s true that everybody who smokes dies, but so does everyone who eats carrots.” And “There’s no … major sickness component associated with secondhand smoke. It may irritate you, and you may not like it, but it will not make you sick, and it will not kill you.”

Rush Limbaugh denied smoking risks in 2015: ‘Smokers aren’t killing anybody’

The conservative radio host has long extolled the glamour and societal benefits of smoking, while downplaying its dangers.

www.denverpost.com

He’s also mocked Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s, and mocked the deaths of gay people with AIDS.

Rush was a total POS. Yes, he’s dead, as you said, which is why I am now saying he WAS a POS, not he IS a POS. Thank you for clarifying that.

it is not my job to defend rush limbaugh....but if i had a show for 3 hours a day 5 days a week for over 30 years i am positive i would have said things people would find offensive.

and since he IS dead what you or anyone else says about him doesn't matter to him, but he does have family and people who cared for and loved him that badmouthing him hurts--i suppose you have no regard for their feelings?

there really truly is NO gain in badmouthing a dead man, bout the same as beating a dead horse, imo.

 

[kisaj]

You really support a Senator dipping out of his state during a legitimate crisis? Not really a believer in elected officials being civil servants as opposed to a ruling class are you? Not to mention he’s on record mocking California for their past blackouts, only to not even care when his state has devastating continued power outages.

You can be a conservative, I respect many very conservative people ITT, but to blindly praise Cruz by virtue of him having an “R” next to his name is just silly. Dude is abandoning his responsibility to his constituents and his state. Finally dropping the charade that he ever actually cared to begin with.

I think she only does it to cause a stir because he really is the bottom of the bottom. Against civil unions, legalization of marijuana, against raising the minimum wage, against net neutrality, doesn't believe the science in global warming, against overhauling student loan programs, etc..

I mean, the guy has no good in him.

 

[thebigt]

I think she only does it to cause a stir because he really is the bottom of the bottom. Against civil unions, legalization of marijuana, against raising the minimum wage, against net neutrality, doesn't believe the science in global warming, against overhauling student loan programs, etc..

I mean, the guy has no good in him.

guess which 3 of those i'm against?

 

[ax1]

And what, exactly, do “massive international money and forces” stand to gain by perpetuating this lie?

And now I’m confused. Regarding 9/11 you claim it IS simple and obvious, that I over-complicated things. Now you’re accusing me of oversimplifying them? You move the goalposts incessantly man...

Just because YOU don’t have the intelligence to understand how man got to the moon (or how thrusters work in space) doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

That was me that was accusing you of over-complicating things about 9/11, in which is an accusation fact you couldnt oversimplify any more so, lol.

 

[puccah8808]

in january gas here was $2.18 a gallon....today it was $2.68 a gallon. i noticed grocery prices have also gone up.

Oh, yea. Ground beef and ground turkey were the same price last night. I decided to go with the beef and the cashier decided to accidentally give it to me for free.

 

[THOR 70]

And what, exactly, do “massive international money and forces” stand to gain by perpetuating this lie?

And now I’m confused. Regarding 9/11 you claim it IS simple and obvious, that I over-complicated things. Now you’re accusing me of oversimplifying them? You move the goalposts incessantly man...

Just because YOU don’t have the intelligence to understand how man got to the moon (or how thrusters work in space) doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Keeping the lowest man on the totem pole(you) entertained, distracted, hoping in something outside of your world, all while robbing your taxes for the black budget of space programs.

I know you’re confused. Buildings falling as they did IS blatant and obvious. So yes you complicate the obvious, and oversimplify the complex (like how our world is run at the highest levels)

I don’t need the “intelligence” (indoctrination) to understand all the minutia details of how lies are perpetrated when I can clearly see the lie.

Funny how you never address the smoking guns. Here are a few more:

-Stiff hair of women in space
-Bill Nye slipping up saying we can’t leave earth as it’s a closed system
-Nasa “losing the technology” to go back to the moon
-The fact that they cgi the earth pictures and nasa’s artist says, “well, they have to be”


I could keep going but you will find a way to make yourself feel better with scientism.

 

[thebigt]

Oh, yea. Ground beef and ground turkey were the same price last night. I decided to go with the beef and the cashier decided to accidentally give it to me for free.

i know several farmers who told me the price of feed grains have really gone up, with pork and chickens seeing the highest increase due to increased cost of feeding them--he said right now beef is the best bargain but to stock up on it because prices on all meats are going to be seeing a major increase soon.

 

[Jiigzz]

it is not my job to defend rush limbaugh....but if i had a show for 3 hours a day 5 days a week for over 30 years i am positive i would have said things people would find offensive.

and since he IS dead what you or anyone else says about him doesn't matter to him, but he does have family and people who cared for and loved him that badmouthing him hurts--i suppose you have no regard for their feelings?

there really truly is NO gain in badmouthing a dead man, bout the same as beating a dead horse, imo.

People were very quick to criticize every aspect of George Floyd's life after his death.

 

[thebigt]

People were very quick to criticize every aspect of George Floyd's life after his death.

and you thought that was a bad thing to do but think that justifies calling limbaugh a piece of ****?

 

[Jiigzz]

and you thought that was a bad thing to do but think that justifies calling limbaugh a piece of ****?

The guy lived his life mocking others

 

[thebigt]

The guy lived his life mocking others

the key here is if you bad mouth a dead man you aren't hurting him, you are hurting the people who loved and cared for him...what possible gain is there in doing this?

 

[muscleupcrohn]

it is not my job to defend rush limbaugh....but if i had a show for 3 hours a day 5 days a week for over 30 years i am positive i would have said things people would find offensive.

and since he IS dead what you or anyone else says about him doesn't matter to him, but he does have family and people who cared for and loved him that badmouthing him hurts--i suppose you have no regard for their feelings?

there really truly is NO gain in badmouthing a dead man, bout the same as beating a dead horse, imo.

He regularly profited off of mocking people who died of AIDS. Any decent person could have a show for 10 hours a day for a millennium and never sing mocking people who died of AIDS. If his friends and family stuck by him for that, then I don’t have much regard for their feelings on them matter. I am criticizing him for things he did that were horrible. He mocked and cheered for people who died from AIDS. If people still stood by him after that, I don’t know what to tell you, except they probably don’t have any right to feel upset if people say mean things about Rush now...

 

[muscleupcrohn]

and you thought that was a bad thing to do but think that justifies calling limbaugh a piece of ****?

Rush himself literally sang songs making fun of people who died of AIDS on a National platform he made money on. I’m sure plenty of THEIR families wish there was an afterlife so Rush can hear all the people criticizing him now.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Keeping the lowest man on the totem pole(you) entertained, distracted, hoping in something outside of your world, all while robbing your taxes for the black budget of space programs.

I know you’re confused. Buildings falling as they did IS blatant and obvious. So yes you complicate the obvious, and oversimplify the complex (like how our world is run at the highest levels)

I don’t need the “intelligence” (indoctrination) to understand all the minutia details of how lies are perpetrated when I can clearly see the lie.

Funny how you never address the smoking guns. Here are a few more:

-Stiff hair in space of women
-Bill Nye slipping up saying we can’t leave earth as it’s a closed system
-Nasa “losing the technology” to go back to the moon
-The fact that they cgi the earth pictures and nasa’s artist says, “well, they have to be”


I could keep going but you will find a way to make yourself feel better with scientism.
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If you think those are “smoking guns,” I’m honestly really sorry for you. My condolences...

 

[muscleupcrohn]

the key here is if you bad mouth a dead man you aren't hurting him, you are hurting the people who loved and cared for him...what possible gain is there in doing this?

If his family stood by him LITERALLY on a National platform SINGING about people who died of AIDS, then they lost ANY right to complain about others speaking ill of the dead. He made a nice living doing far, far worse than what you’re complaining about now.

 

[thebigt]

He regularly profited off of mocking people who died of AIDS. Any decent person could have a show for 10 hours a day for a millennium and never sing mocking people who died of AIDS. If his friends and family stuck by him for that, then I don’t have much regard for their feelings on them matter. I am criticizing him for things he did that were horrible. He mocked and cheered for people who died from AIDS. If people still stood by him after that, I don’t know what to tell you, except they probably don’t have any right to feel upset if people say mean things about Rush now...

this thread is 1013 pages long and you wait until the man is dead to feel the need to criticize him---yeah i bet your criticism is really hurting his feelings-eh?

i have family members and friends who say and do things all the time that i don't approve of, this does NOT mean i would not mourn for them if they were to die, but that's just me!!!

 

[muscleupcrohn]

this thread is 1013 pages long and you wait until the man is dead to feel the need to criticize him---yeah i bet your criticism is really hurting his feelings-eh?

i have family members and friends who say and do things all the time that i don't approve of, this does NOT mean i would not mourn for them if they were to die, but that's just me!!!

You have family members who went on a National platform to repeatedly mock people who died of AIDS?

Am I also not allowed to criticize Mao or Che Guevara because they’re dead and it won’t hurt their feelings?

Rush was a POS. I really don’t care if he doesn’t hear that since he’s dead. I’m not saying it to hurt his feelings, I’m saying it because it’s true...

 

[thebigt]

You have family members who went on a National platform to repeatedly mock people who died of AIDS?

Am I also not allowed to criticize Mao or Che Guevara because they’re dead and it won’t hurt their feelings?

Rush was a POS. I really don’t care if he doesn’t hear that since he’s dead. I’m not saying it to hurt his feelings, I’m saying it because it’s true...

if you are allowed to criticize who you want then i am allowed to mourn for anyone i damned well want to or are you the judge of who i get to mourn?

i did some truly bad stuff in my drinking/drugging days and my family and friends forgave me and i guarantee you they would mourn for me!!!

 

[thebigt]

You have family members who went on a National platform to repeatedly mock people who died of AIDS?

Am I also not allowed to criticize Mao or Che Guevara because they’re dead and it won’t hurt their feelings?

Rush was a POS. I really don’t care if he doesn’t hear that since he’s dead. I’m not saying it to hurt his feelings, I’m saying it because it’s true...

go ahead hate on mao or che...hell hate on whoever you like, be my guest-hate away!!!!

 

[muscleupcrohn]

i am allowed to mourn for anyone i damned well want to or are you the judge of who i get to mourn?

i did some truly bad stuff in my drinking/drugging days and my family and friends forgave me and i guarantee you they would mourn for me!!!

If I can be sincere for a moment, it seems like you've really repented from your past mistakes to become a much better person, who learned from his mistakes, and helped to turn them from stumbling blocks into stepping stones going forward.

Rush was, on the other hand, from everything I've seen, an unrepentant hate-monger who cheered about the deaths of innocent people while spreading lies that directly harmed innocent children. And profited handsomely from it all.

Drinking and drugging are truly insidious, and I know from people I love that they can destroy lives and can be incredibly hard to overcome. That said, it is at least understandable how people, good people even, go down that unfortunate path of addiction and harm many, many people. There is really zero path I see that has a good man going down the path to CHEER ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIED OF AIDS ON A NATIONAL PLATFORM. That's another level of horridness.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

go ahead hate on mao or che...hell hate on whoever you like, be my guest-hate away!!!!

You're not going to criticize me for criticizing them? They do have family after all...

 

[Jiigzz]

the key here is if you bad mouth a dead man you aren't hurting him, you are hurting the people who loved and cared for him...what possible gain is there in doing this?

Everyone is accountable for their actions. When a robber is shot and killed, everyone praises the shooter and condemns the robber.

I don't see anyone, ever, thinking of the family of the robber and caring how they feel.

He wasn't a good guy. He knew it, everyone else knew it. He was intently provocative.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

He was wholeheartedly hateful and bigoted.

Fixed that for you.

 

[thebigt]

If I can be sincere for a moment, it seems like you've really repented from your past mistakes to become a much better person, who learned from his mistakes, and helped to turn them from stumbling blocks into stepping stones going forward.

Rush was, on the other hand, from everything I've seen, an unrepentant hate-monger who cheered about the deaths of innocent people while spreading lies that directly harmed innocent children. And profited handsomely from it all.

Drinking and drugging are truly insidious, and I know from people I love that they can destroy lives and can be incredibly hard to overcome. That said, it is at least understandable how people, good people even, go down that unfortunate path of addiction and harm many, many people. There is really zero path I see that has a good man going down the path to CHEER ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIED OF AIDS ON A NATIONAL PLATFORM. That's another level of horridness.

and i sincerely am not here to defend rush limbaugh, but to point out that we all have made mistakes in our lives, i know for sure that i have....i worked the 12 step program and since rush was a opioid addict and AA/NA are anonymous i have no clue rather or not he attempted to make amends to those he had hurt, and neither do you since the aids crisis was quite some time ago.

if rush didn't attempt to make amends then my prayers go out for his soul...and regardless i will pray for his loved ones rather than hate on them for loving him worts and all.

 

[thebigt]

Everyone is accountable for their actions. When a robber is shot and killed, everyone praises the shooter and condemns the robber.

I don't see anyone, ever, thinking of the family of the robber and caring how they feel.

He wasn't a good guy. He knew it, everyone else knew it. He was intently provocative.

when someone is convicted of murder 2 families are deserving of sympathy and prayers.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

when someone is convicted of murder 2 families are deserving of sympathy and prayers.

That depends. Did the family of the murderer constantly enable and encourage his actions leading up to the murder?

 

[muscleupcrohn]

and i sincerely am not here to defend rush limbaugh, but to point out that we all have made mistakes in our lives, i know for sure that i have....i worked the 12 step program and since rush was a opioid addict and AA/NA are anonymous i have no clue rather or not he attempted to make amends to those he had hurt, and neither do you since the aids crisis was quite some time ago.

if rush didn't attempt to make amends then my prayers go out for his soul...and regardless i will pray for his loved ones rather than hate on them for loving him worts and all.

Unlike you or I, people who live largely private lives, Rush was on a NATIONAL PLATFORM for DECADES spewing hate and malice, cheering the deaths of people who died of diseases, people who also had mourning families I will remind you. Even if he did attempt to make amends with people in private, when you spewed hate and encouraged others to hate for decades, you have an obligation to publicly declare the error of your public ways.

Also, my dad, who has 39 years clean in AA/NA, just said that Rush was a POS who never attempted to make public amends for the public hate he spewed for decades. He also wants me to ask you about the wording of you having "WORKED" the 12 step program. You're finished with it?

 

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If you think those are “smoking guns,” I’m honestly really sorry for you. My condolences...

Knew your mind wouldn’t want to process those. Glad you agree with the rest of the post tho.