How long for dbol to fix crashed e2

Hornybeast15

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My e2 has been crashed for months I took much adex I’m on 700 mg of prop right now!

after I crashed I switched to prop to bring e2 up faster seems it didn’t work!

I’ve been on dbol for a week and half 40 mg and still having all low e2 sides worst is digestion and headaches
 
You switched to prop to bring your e2 up faster? Wut

And now your using dbol to bring your e2 up? Whilst still running 500mg+ test?

Dude...
 
Ehh, just skimmed through your post history, this is some weird fukt up sh1t you're going through. I simply dont get how you can have low e2 IF you've dropped the AI, and IF your testosterone is legit.
 
Nac said:
Ehh, just skimmed through your post history, this is some weird fukt up sh1t you're going through. I simply dont get how you can have low e2 IF you've dropped the AI, and IF your testosterone is legit.
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I’m on 300 mg of test e a week just started last week and dropped test prop 40 mg of dbol Ed also
 
Hornybeast15 said:
I’m on 300 mg of test e a week just started last week and dropped test prop 40 mg of dbol Ed also
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I'm confused lol...your post history shows you were having apparent low e2 issues back in Sept last year, whilst running test. How the hell are you still having low e2 issues 3 months later? It makes no sense, assuming your test is really test, and you have ditched the AI.

Recent bloods aside which would confirm things, it's possible you are wrongly attributing your current sides to low e2?
 
Nac said:
I'm confused lol...your post history shows you were having apparent low e2 issues back in Sept last year, whilst running test. How the hell are you still having low e2 issues 3 months later? It makes no sense, assuming your test is really test, and you have ditched the AI.
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I have no idea only thing I can think is switched to test prop and everyday injections so it’s keeping to low
 
Hornybeast15 said:
I have no idea only thing I can think is switched to test prop and everyday injections so it’s keeping to low
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I doubt it, the ester differences may change the e2 peaks but 300mg test should provide you with ample e2, especially with no AI.

Do you know for a fact that e2 is low?
 
Nac said:
I doubt it, the ester differences may change the e2 peaks but 300mg test should provide you with ample e2, especially with no AI.

Do you know for a fact that e2 is low?
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Should I be feeling better it took a few week before I felt the real crashed e2 symptoms?

it’s only been a week
 
Hornybeast15 said:
Should I be feeling better it took a few week before I felt the real crashed e2 symptoms?

it’s only been a week
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I've never taken dbol specifically for wanting e2, but in theory yea it should work. I may try it at some point as I'm messing with a cycle with no test right now. Anyways, I'd think very soon you should be good. 10 days max your e2 should be raised.
 
Pleonastic said:
I've never taken dbol specifically for wanting e2, but in theory yea it should work. I may try it at some point as I'm messing with a cycle with no test right now. Anyways, I'd think very soon you should be good. 10 days max your e2 should be raised.
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Why would dbol be the e2 saviour here, when 300mg test isn't? It just doesn't make sense :/
 
Man I remember you from last year and none of this **** makes sense. You’re obviously hiding something from us or your gear is bunk or something. If not, then you have a VERY serious hormonal problem where your body wouldn’t be able to teach proper levels of estrogen which could potential be life threatening. If all of this is true, why the HELL didn’t you go to a doctor yet? This is just sketchy.
 
Mathb33 said:
Man I remember you from last year and none of this **** makes sense. You’re obviously hiding something from us or your gear is bunk or something. If not, then you have a VERY serious hormonal problem where your body wouldn’t be able to teach proper levels of estrogen which could potential be life threatening. If all of this is true, why the HELL didn’t you go to a doctor yet? This is just sketchy.
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Doctors are clueless
 
Hornybeast15 said:
I’ve only been on it for a week
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300mg test e? Ok.

But what about the 700mg test prop mentioned in your first post? And the test you were running back in Sept when you first had e2 issues?

I'm not trying to bust your balls, but your timeline of drug use is utterly confusing.
 
Nac said:
300mg test e? Ok.

But what about the 700mg test prop mentioned in your first post? And the test you were running back in Sept when you first had e2 issues?

I'm not trying to bust your balls, but your timeline of drug use is utterly confusing.
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In September I was on 250 mg of prop before it was 105 mg of prop my e2 stayed at 12 even with dose raise can confirm on bloodwork

so I went to 700 mg and now we are hear
 
BBiceps said:
Do you have any blood test that shows low E?
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Yes when I raised my dose my 150 mg I got blood 8 weeks later and my e2 was at 12
my test went from 450 to 1400+
Then I bumped it to 700 and haven’t got bloods again because I don’t feel better or different and I would never touch a ai agaij
 
Hornybeast15 said:
Yes clueless when faced with problem
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Nicely ducked. Even with all the great knowledge and experienced members we have here, I don't think I'm offending anyone when I say that no matter how clueless you think the doctors are, we here at the AM are way more clueless about this problem you present (or how you present it).

So you have been basically blasting with varying amount of test for how long now?? The digestion problem and headaches could be due to the gear for all I know. If you insist on trying to solve this mess by yourself, then I would say ditch the D-boll, stay in some REASONABLE amount of test and get bloods in a week or two and if you still have low E, then go see a doctor..
 
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Hornybeast15 said:
In September I was on 250 mg of prop before it was 105 mg of prop my e2 stayed at 12 even with dose raise can confirm on bloodwork

so I went to 700 mg and now we are hear
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If you didn't raise your AI when you raised your Test (FORGET the ester, that doesn't even matter here), and your E plunged, then your Test was bunk.

BUT .... We're all guessing here (as well as you) because you don't KNOW that your E crashed. You're GUESSING your E crashed. That may not be the case at all.

As far as you know right now ... You've been doing the Opposite of what you need to be doing, to fix your issue.

Get bloodwork ASAP.
 
Renew1 said:
If you didn't raise your AI when you raised your Test (FORGET the ester, that doesn't even matter here), and your E plunged, then your Test was bunk.

BUT .... We're all guessing here (as well as you) because you don't KNOW that your E crashed. You're GUESSING your E crashed. That may not be the case at all.

As far as you know right now ... You've been doing the Opposite of what you need to be doing, to fix your issue.

Get bloodwork ASAP.
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this (and what @Nac and @Mathb33 said).

what you are saying doesn’t make sense if everything is broadly working as standard (individual aromatise varies for example but even 200mg test should be giving you ample estrogen).

from what you’ve said the only logical explanations would be

a) your estrogen isn’t low and is potentially high (some of the sides are the same)

b) your test is complete bunk (but your bloods showed high test levels you said so assuming that’s not the case)

c) you have an aromatase deficiency. That’s something people can be born with but is a serious medical condition

regardless, you need bloods and a doctor bro. Wtf would you trust some internet bro’s when we are talking about your health. Even if you don’t believe the doctors will treat it properly at the very least they’ll have the blood work to actually see what the issue is.
 
Whisky said:
this (and what @Nac and @Mathb33 said).

what you are saying doesn’t make sense if everything is broadly working as standard (individual aromatise varies for example but even 200mg test should be giving you ample estrogen).

from what you’ve said the only logical explanations would be

a) your estrogen isn’t low and is potentially high (some of the sides are the same)

b) your test is complete bunk (but your bloods showed high test levels you said so assuming that’s not the case)

c) you have an aromatase deficiency. That’s something people can be born with but is a serious medical condition

regardless, you need bloods and a doctor bro. Wtf would you trust some internet bro’s when we are talking about your health. Even if you don’t believe the doctors will treat it properly at the very least they’ll have the blood work to actually see what the issue is.
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Yep. ↑↑↑

Regardless of Drs..... You need bloodwork Definitely.

That will either give you all the info you need to make the proper decisions, or let you know that you HAVE TO seek medical assistance.
 
Renew1 said:
Yep. ↑↑↑

Regardless of Drs..... You need bloodwork Definitely.

That will either give you all the info you need to make the proper decisions, or let you know that you HAVE TO seek medical assistance.
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Come on guys. Why bother when you have D-boll and test!!

But srs I would just start from which ever I can get to faster, Dr or bw.

Also:

"That will either give you all the info you need to make the proper decisions, or let you know that you HAVE TO seek medical assistance."

I think you're over estimating someones decision making abilities.

Ps. Sorry for being a dick. Just felt like it right now..
 
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KvanH said:
Come on guys. Why bother when you have D-boll and test!!

But srs I would just start from which ever I can get to faster, Dr or bw.

Also:

"That will either give you all the info you need to make the proper decisions, or let you know that you HAVE TO seek medical assistance."

I think you're over estimating someones decision making abilities.

Ps. Sorry to be a dick. Just felt like it right now..
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Well ... You do have a point.

But if he actually got bloodwork, and posted it here, we could then let him know what to do to fix his situation, OR tell him he now has to see a Dr, if he values his health.
 
Renew1 said:
Well ... You do have a point.

But if he actually go bloodwork, and posted it here, we could then let him know what to do to fix his situation, OR tell him he now has to see a Dr, if he values his health.
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That would be a great start/direction to go to. But something tells me he isn't much for listening advises that go against his hunch/own ideas. Happy to be wrong here tho.
 
KvanH said:
That would be a great start/direction to go to. But something tells me he isn't much for listening advises that go against his hunch/own ideas. Happy to be wrong here tho.
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Well ... It's hard to prove you wrong, so far.

:-)
 
Hornybeast15 said:
My e2 has been crashed for months I took much adex I’m on 700 mg of prop right now!

after I crashed I switched to prop to bring e2 up faster seems it didn’t work!

I’ve been on dbol for a week and half 40 mg and still having all low e2 sides worst is digestion and headaches
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Men, I have the same issues, e2 not rise up. Do you have any update? Are you fine now?
 
To revive this thread:
I've also been dealing with long term AI (aromasin in my case) induced low e2 symptoms for 3 months now. Have just started TRT + HCG and also have supplemental E2 on hand. Symptoms I'm dealing with: low mood, apathy, no libido, digestion/gut issues, sleep issues, dry mouth, muscle twitching... It's quite shitty, really.

What OP is going through is directly related to his AI usage and low E2 levels. The symptoms, of course, are either directly caused by low E2 or are a downstream effect of crashed E2. Either way, it sucks.
After talking to others that have been dealing with this for longer (on excelmale forum many threads have been opened on this topic, some people suffering from this for years) it seems like the most logical conclusion is that the core of the problem lies either in limited aromatase activity (which is why OP consistently presents with low E2 levels) or dysfunctional (likely severly desensitivized) estrogen receptors (optimal blood levels of E2 on tests but consistent low e2 symptoms), both following epigenetic changes that too high doses of inappropriately timed AIs induced.

Most of the people I've talked with have found relief with exogenous E2 use (especially injectable E2, however some also benefited from oral E2). In theory, short term use of high doses of injectable E2 doses might cause epigenetic changes which would result in a (aromatase activity and estrogen receptor function) baseline comparable to the baseline before AI induced crash. Hopefully. I sympathise much with OP, this truly is a mind-boggling situation to deal with. Even veterans scoff at the slightest possibility of AIs causing this. But, well, there's quite many folks in a similar boat.
 
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