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Donald Trump running for president

thebigt said:
trump was all that was standing in their way.....
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His big mistake was cleaning up the swamp only by then surrounding himself with mostly nothing but the swamp of swamps. Either he made miscalculated dumb mistake or he pulled off one of the biggest shytshows in political history. I dunno for sure, Im leaning towards the latter.
 
ax1 said:
His big mistake was cleaning up the swamp only by then surrounding himself with mostly nothing but the swamp of swamps. Either he made miscalculated dumb mistake or he pulled off one of the biggest shytshows in political history. I dunno for sure, Im leaning towards the latter.
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either way with trump gone nothing is standing in the way of globalists....
 
Ricky10 said:
So is this how things are going to happen? Are we truly in for even more surprises?

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Wouldnt be awesome if Dump is staying in the White House and the military has to go there and pull him out? Or the military goes there to protect him? Or both!!!
 
Its official, this "new strain" is in the USA.

The infected individual, a man in his 20s, does not have a history of traveling and is in isolation in Elbert County, about an hour and a half south of Denver, officials said.

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ax1 said:
Wouldnt be awesome if Dump is staying in the White House and the military has to go there and pull him out? Or the military goes there to protect him? Or both!!!
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It would be awesome if the military could finally come home...
 
ax1 said:
Its official, this "new strain" is in the USA.

The infected individual, a man in his 20s, does not have a history of traveling and is in isolation in Elbert County, about an hour and a half south of Denver, officials said.

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I suspect you also heard about it being identified in California. It stands to reason that it’s likely everywhere. It seems that they have to specifically test/look for it beyond the routine test people receive.

It kills me how they say it is 70% more transmissible than the original strain. Since when did we have the first strain all figured out?
 
HIT4ME said:
[Sarcasm] Wait, you mean you actually expect me to read more than just the headline?[/Sarcasm]



It looks like, according to the Washington examiner, the GOP does supposedly have an investigation that shows a discrepancy in the PA voting records which ultimately would swing more than twice the votes in Biden's margin of victory. I could not find any news on Google last night despite searching rigorously about this, but a friend of mine found the examiner article. The Examiner is conservative biased and even I am not saying they are fully credible....so whatever, not proof but also maybe Trump has some info that the liberal media is trying to scuffle, like the Biden laptop which is real beyond any doubt at this point but had news articles blocked by social media and denied by liberal media.

But evidence of widespread election fraud doesn't need to be proven. If they prove a SINGLE fraudulent vote that is tied to Biden or his team, it should invalidate his presidency. Just because you are not effective at committing a crime does not make it OK for you to try and commit it anyway.

The fact the liberals are trying to frame this as "it has to be widespread" to matter is a huge red-light in itself.
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They found a single vote in favour of Trump. So yep, he can't be President either
 
puccah8808 said:
It would be awesome if the military could finally come home...
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Unfortunately that was happening over the last 4 years. Trump brought more troops home than any president before him, but no one talks about that and Biden will just send them all back. Having a military presence in foreign countries has long been a benefit for the politicians who send them into danger.

Jiigzz said:
They found a single vote in favour of Trump. So yep, he can't be President either
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This reminds me of the conversation about Trump getting lease payments from a tenant that is Chinese owned and your not being able to understand how that was different than Hunter Biden getting payments from China and his VP father benefitting directly from the transaction.

Obviously you missed some nuance here. Your understanding of what I said would lead to opponents voting twice for their opponent to disqualify them. What I actually said is that a presidential candidate who participates in fraudulent voting should be disqualified. If Joe Biden or his team are tied to a SINGLE fraudulent vote, they should be disqualified. Same for Trump.

Obviously you must have believed this when you were in favor of prosecuting Trump for the supposed Ukrainian involvement in the last election - which was based on completely made up evidence from the libs, perpetuated by the social media and mainstream media platforms you have defended as being purveyors of "truth".

None of that evidence was sufficient to sway an election, yet look at the investigation that took place. Why is this suddenly different?
 
China approved their homegrown vaccine and plan to have 50 people shot up by their February holiday. Unfortunatly we all know if things go wrong its going to be shut down hard and censored.

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dixonk said:
Wait! Not yet. I need 5-10 more years please.
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Wait till Karamela becomes Prez in 2 years 1 day. You will be ready to retire 3 years from now! She is going to light up the whole world, you will see!
 
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HIT4ME said:
Unfortunately that was happening over the last 4 years. Trump brought more troops home than any president before him, but no one talks about that and Biden will just send them all back. Having a military presence in foreign countries has long been a benefit for the politicians who send them into danger.



This reminds me of the conversation about Trump getting lease payments from a tenant that is Chinese owned and your not being able to understand how that was different than Hunter Biden getting payments from China and his VP father benefitting directly from the transaction.

Obviously you missed some nuance here. Your understanding of what I said would lead to opponents voting twice for their opponent to disqualify them. What I actually said is that a presidential candidate who participates in fraudulent voting should be disqualified. If Joe Biden or his team are tied to a SINGLE fraudulent vote, they should be disqualified. Same for Trump.

Obviously you must have believed this when you were in favor of prosecuting Trump for the supposed Ukrainian involvement in the last election - which was based on completely made up evidence from the libs, perpetuated by the social media and mainstream media platforms you have defended as being purveyors of "truth".

None of that evidence was sufficient to sway an election, yet look at the investigation that took place. Why is this suddenly different?
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Did you forget that Trump pardoned people named in the Mueller report? The evidence is pretty clear in that report, if you had read it (i did, it was a long read but well worth it).

People were found guilty of communicating with Russia in the report. That's not a hoax. The evidence exists.

I can see why evidence doesn't matter in the election fraud claims, because when evidence is present it is obviously a big Gubment conspiracy, and only things that have no evidence should be accepted
 
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Jiigzz said:
Did you forget that Trump pardoned people named in the Mueller report? The evidence is pretty clear in that report, if you had read it (i did, it was a long read but well worth it).

People were found guilty of communicating with Russia in the report. That's not a hoax. The evidence exists.

I can see why evidence doesn't matter in the election fraud claims, because when evidence is present it is obviously a big Gubment conspiracy, and only things that have no evidence should be accepted
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I have not read the entire report. What I have seen of it is tripe and I cannot stomach the insanity of it all. Maybe you will have something to add that I should view in the report, but I doubt it.

The thing is, again, there are a lot of nuances here. "Trump bad" is not how the world actually works. The criminality of the liberals has gone completely unpunished. I was not talking about the Mueller report, but rather the fake Russian propaganda that kicked off the investigation to begin with. This is akin to me getting you arrested because I don't like you, so I call the cops and say I heard a little girl screaming for help in your house and they kick the door in and find that you have some pot and arrest you for that. Sure, you did something wrong, but if it weren't for some made up accusation, they had no right being there to begin with. Of course, this process is well established in US law.

None of the convictions from the Mueller report had anything to do with Russian collusion in regard to the election, unless I am mistaken? I believe it was a lot of obstruction of justice against an unfounded investigation, tax evasion, etc.

Actually, glad you brought that up, because what is the difference between Hunter Biden and Paul Manafort at this time? Are you going to push for Hunter to get jail time?

You can not investigate someone just because you want to. The Mueller report was kicked off because of Russian propaganda that was entirely made up. Without it, the investigation would have never been opened. Now they can hide behind plausible deniability that they didn't know it was fictitious, but who was really right if they got duped so bad that they used Russian propaganda to kick off an investigation into Russian propaganda?

And in the process they pinched people for tax evasion, lying to investigators (wrong but a little questionable when the investigation had no grounds to begin with). There were some scumbags for sure om the Trump side. But none of it had to do with the election itself.

I think it is funny you are fighting for the Mueller investigation while trying to act like you have the high ground and you believe in facts and evidence. The entire investigation was created from propaganda. The liberals and the media clearly fell for false evidence..

Further, Mueller could not provide real evidence in his own report, but wanted to be "right" (aka confirmation bias) so badly he talked about connections and his own failures to find the evidence as if it were the evidence itself. For instance, he was trying to get Trump on campaign finance issues for receiving info on Hilary from the Russians - again, not fraudulent voting here - but his failure he pointed out is that he couldn't establish the info was worth more than $25,000. Come on, man.

Maybe I will try to suck it up and read through that report again, but I don't know if I can take it.
 
Jiigzz said:
Did you forget that Trump pardoned people named in the Mueller report? The evidence is pretty clear in that report, if you had read it (i did, it was a long read but well worth it).

People were found guilty of communicating with Russia in the report. That's not a hoax. The evidence exists.

I can see why evidence doesn't matter in the election fraud claims, because when evidence is present it is obviously a big Gubment conspiracy, and only things that have no evidence should be accepted
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Also, you are the one claiming evidence doesn't matter here. The PA voter counts are around 207,000 apart. The justification is possibly that the counties have not all reported all of the data yet, but such a discrepancy is potential evidence that warrants investigation. It may be evidence that the counts are inaccurate and once corrected it will confirm the outcome. But why brush it aside? Who is ignoring the evidence? Oh yeah. The people who want Biden in there.
 
HIT4ME said:
I have not read the entire report. What I have seen of it is tripe and I cannot stomach the insanity of it all. Maybe you will have something to add that I should view in the report, but I doubt it.

The thing is, again, there are a lot of nuances here. "Trump bad" is not how the world actually works. The criminality of the liberals has gone completely unpunished. I was not talking about the Mueller report, but rather the fake Russian propaganda that kicked off the investigation to begin with. This is akin to me getting you arrested because I don't like you, so I call the cops and say I heard a little girl screaming for help in your house and they kick the door in and find that you have some pot and arrest you for that. Sure, you did something wrong, but if it weren't for some made up accusation, they had no right being there to begin with. Of course, this process is well established in US law.

None of the convictions from the Mueller report had anything to do with Russian collusion in regard to the election, unless I am mistaken? I believe it was a lot of obstruction of justice against an unfounded investigation, tax evasion, etc.

Actually, glad you brought that up, because what is the difference between Hunter Biden and Paul Manafort at this time? Are you going to push for Hunter to get jail time?

You can not investigate someone just because you want to. The Mueller report was kicked off because of Russian propaganda that was entirely made up. Without it, the investigation would have never been opened. Now they can hide behind plausible deniability that they didn't know it was fictitious, but who was really right if they got duped so bad that they used Russian propaganda to kick off an investigation into Russian propaganda?

And in the process they pinched people for tax evasion, lying to investigators (wrong but a little questionable when the investigation had no grounds to begin with). There were some scumbags for sure om the Trump side. But none of it had to do with the election itself.

I think it is funny you are fighting for the Mueller investigation while trying to act like you have the high ground and you believe in facts and evidence. The entire investigation was created from propaganda. The liberals and the media clearly fell for false evidence..

Further, Mueller could not provide real evidence in his own report, but wanted to be "right" (aka confirmation bias) so badly he talked about connections and his own failures to find the evidence as if it were the evidence itself. For instance, he was trying to get Trump on campaign finance issues for receiving info on Hilary from the Russians - again, not fraudulent voting here - but his failure he pointed out is that he couldn't establish the info was worth more than $25,000. Come on, man.

Maybe I will try to suck it up and read through that report again, but I don't know if I can take it.
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At the end of the day all we end up with is some Soviets buying only a hundred thousand dollars in facekrack ads and Hitlery spending over a BILLION dollars on her campaign, more than anyone in the history of time and people just didnt vote for her because she is a war mongering satanic nasty scum krack whore witch and people just cant stand her.
 
HIT4ME said:
Also, you are the one claiming evidence doesn't matter here. The PA voter counts are around 207,000 apart. The justification is possibly that the counties have not all reported all of the data yet, but such a discrepancy is potential evidence that warrants investigation. It may be evidence that the counts are inaccurate and once corrected it will confirm the outcome. But why brush it aside? Who is ignoring the evidence? Oh yeah. The people who want Biden in there.
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the fact of the matter is there are a large amount of voters who think there was irregularities involved in the election...imo, both parties should be onboard for at least a bipartisan congressional committee to investigate.
 
ax1 said:
At the end of the day all we end up with is some Soviets buying only a hundred thousand dollars in facekrack ads and Hitlery spending over a BILLION dollars on her campaign, more than anyone in the history of time and people just didnt vote for her because she is a war mongering satanic nasty scum krack whore witch and people just cant stand her.
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I mean, the premise itself is ludocrous. What kind of mental midget actually believes that Putin (or any foreign leader) fears Hilary but not Trump? If they are that dumb, well, then I guess they are happy Biden will be president. They can have meetings with their drool bibs on and not be embarrassed.

thebigt said:
the fact of the matter is there are a large amount of voters who think there was irregularities involved in the election...imo, both parties should be onboard for at least a bipartisan congressional committee to investigate.
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Yeah, a large portion of the voters just spent 4 years questioning the election process and getting investigations, but now that their guy is in it is "nothing to see here" from them. And telling us we are ignoring evidence. Really, it appears this should be a case where the Republicans are finally saying they see things may not be right now, and the dems should be saying, "see, we told ya so".

Unfortunately this thinking leads me to a place where government corruption looks a lot like an Ax1 nightmare.
 
anyone who works for a living and pays taxes has got to be a moron to think their life will be better with a biden presidency---geez!!!
 
thebigt said:
anyone who works for a living and pays taxes has got to be a moron to think their life will be better with a biden presidency---geez!!!
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But as my liberal sister said, “I don’t mind paying more taxes to help those in need.” I created a fucking monster!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
puccah8808 said:
But as my liberal sister said, “I don’t mind paying more taxes to help those in need.” I created a fucking monster!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️
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then she should be very happy in california and i for one hope she stays there!!!!
 
puccah8808 said:
But as my liberal sister said, “I don’t mind paying more taxes to help those in need.” I created a fucking monster!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️
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I hear this a lot from liberals who usually fall into two categories. The first group is very rare but it is people who have so much money that they no longer have to pay income taxes if they choose not to.

The second group is people who are of modest income and don't pay significant taxes but assume the additional burden will always fall on the shoulders of wealthier people.

Neither group has any follow through as they could easily pay more taxes than is required and they choose not to each year. But they will still vote to make other people follow their ideology that even they won't follow themselves. Kind of like Al Gore wanting to limit carbon emissions for people, yet using huge amounts of energy himself.
 
@thebigt

Clyde spits the truth about the media and deep state.

Minute 25:24 where he starts with "the term conspiracy theory has now been weaponized...."

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HIT4ME said:
I have not read the entire report. What I have seen of it is tripe and I cannot stomach the insanity of it all. Maybe you will have something to add that I should view in the report, but I doubt it.

The thing is, again, there are a lot of nuances here. "Trump bad" is not how the world actually works. The criminality of the liberals has gone completely unpunished. I was not talking about the Mueller report, but rather the fake Russian propaganda that kicked off the investigation to begin with. This is akin to me getting you arrested because I don't like you, so I call the cops and say I heard a little girl screaming for help in your house and they kick the door in and find that you have some pot and arrest you for that. Sure, you did something wrong, but if it weren't for some made up accusation, they had no right being there to begin with. Of course, this process is well established in US law.

None of the convictions from the Mueller report had anything to do with Russian collusion in regard to the election, unless I am mistaken? I believe it was a lot of obstruction of justice against an unfounded investigation, tax evasion, etc.

Actually, glad you brought that up, because what is the difference between Hunter Biden and Paul Manafort at this time? Are you going to push for Hunter to get jail time?

You can not investigate someone just because you want to. The Mueller report was kicked off because of Russian propaganda that was entirely made up. Without it, the investigation would have never been opened. Now they can hide behind plausible deniability that they didn't know it was fictitious, but who was really right if they got duped so bad that they used Russian propaganda to kick off an investigation into Russian propaganda?

And in the process they pinched people for tax evasion, lying to investigators (wrong but a little questionable when the investigation had no grounds to begin with). There were some scumbags for sure om the Trump side. But none of it had to do with the election itself.

I think it is funny you are fighting for the Mueller investigation while trying to act like you have the high ground and you believe in facts and evidence. The entire investigation was created from propaganda. The liberals and the media clearly fell for false evidence..

Further, Mueller could not provide real evidence in his own report, but wanted to be "right" (aka confirmation bias) so badly he talked about connections and his own failures to find the evidence as if it were the evidence itself. For instance, he was trying to get Trump on campaign finance issues for receiving info on Hilary from the Russians - again, not fraudulent voting here - but his failure he pointed out is that he couldn't establish the info was worth more than $25,000. Come on, man.

Maybe I will try to suck it up and read through that report again, but I don't know if I can take it.
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He was impeached for it, in case you forgot. The amount of scapegoats, evidence deletion and cover up makes for a very interesting read.
 
Jiigzz said:
He was impeached for it, in case you forgot. The amount of scapegoats, evidence deletion and cover up makes for a very interesting read.
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Your really think the impeachment had anything to do with Russia at all? Srs, come on man!

Really, it did not, not at all, never was. In the end us tax payers lost 10s of millions of dollars to watch a political puppet shytshow and we will never get anything of that money returned to us.
 
I’m tired of posting here, gonna take the rest of the year off. Later gender neutrals!
 
ax1 said:
I’m tired of posting here, gonna take the rest of the year off. Later gender neutrals!
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Welcome back, ax1. See you all are still on locked down, eh?
 
puccah8808 said:
Welcome back, ax1. See you all are still on locked down, eh?
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and probably will be for life!!!

but just like billy who's still in the navy, hes good for a joke and light of my smoke....

HAPPY NEW YEAR
 
thebigt said:
and probably will be for life!!!

but just like billy who's still in the navy, hes good for a joke and light of my smoke....

HAPPY NEW YEAR
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Happy New Year, Big! I’ll smoke with you! Haha
 
Jiigzz said:
He was impeached for it, in case you forgot. The amount of scapegoats, evidence deletion and cover up makes for a very interesting read.
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So, um, no evidence...just more claims?
 
ax1 said:
Your really think the impeachment had anything to do with Russia at all? Srs, come on man!

Really, it did not, not at all, never was. In the end us tax payers lost 10s of millions of dollars to watch a political puppet shytshow and we will never get anything of that money returned to us.
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This is the thing. The nuances are completely lost here. Normally, in court, if someone gains evidence illegally it is thrown out. And you cannot compell someome into a crime and then prosecute them for it.

But we are starting with the premise that Russian collusion caused election fraud, and then holding up prosecutions that came from the investigation that were for obstructing a fictitious investigation and unrelated tax evasion as somehow being proof of election tampering?

Oh, we started a murder investigation on this guy and we found no evidence if that, but his friend did rob a bank so he is a murderer because the he associates with a friend who was arrested and convicted from that murder investigation.

And if you don't believe he is a murderer it is because you are ignoring evidence. His friend was convicted after all.

But hey, at least there was an investigation. Everyone was all for investigating based on some fake Russian intel 4 years ago, but hey now that we have math and numbers showing a really low probability of a legit Biden win (real evidence as opposed to Russian propaganda), everyone who wants to investigate is crazy and ignoring evidence?

Sorry. The people who think like this just either have a strong bias that clouds their judgement, or a very low IQ. Although, the two are not mutually exclusive.
 
Happy New Year to everyone in this thread! Thanks again to everyone for making this year a little bit better.
 
ax1 said:
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I, for one, am glad you are back. That was a long 4 minutes without you yesterday.
 
Anal print.... wtf....
 
puccah8808 said:
Anal print.... wtf....
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Doesnt open the bowl like face-id on iphone does, lol

Its for medical purposes and data, The purpose of the toilet is to develop “easily deployable hardware and software for the long-term analysis of a user’s excreta through data collection and models of human health,"

Then again what does this have to do with the Covid-1984 virus? And why cant multi-billion pharma fund it? Not like they are broke, they just had 330 million customers (who think they got it for free or werent charged for saying no thanks) buy their new product twice!
 
looking at all the possibilities that 2021 might bring i'm not so eager to see 2020 end....my prediction-2021 is going to be a mother f*cker.


if democrats pick up both senate seats in georgia this country is truly screwed, imho.
 
thebigt said:
looking at all the possibilities that 2021 might bring i'm not so eager to see 2020 end....my prediction-2021 is going to be a mother f*cker.


if democrats pick up both senate seats in georgia this country is truly screwed, imho.
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If either side wins the senate we are screwed.
 
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