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ax1 said:
person: I just want to work so I can pay my bills

jiggz: stay in your basement, you have a moral soclial obligation to protect 0.003% of those over 95, blind crippled and crazy dying from an incredibly dangerous virus

person: cop put knee on my neck, I was only on crack which I bought because I robbed my pregnant girlfriend's money at gunpoint

jiggz: out, the police brutality, this is injustice, oh my gosh, Dump is evil his supporters are supremacists, oh lord please I want more government putting diapers on us and feeding us the milk bottle, health care for all!
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We’re being trolled. Just stop responding. Took me a few posts to figure it out, but I’m done.
 
Jiigzz said:
He was being arrested, in case you didn't notice. The cops job is not to run and kick someone's head, period.

The fact that you condone that speaks volumes about your character.
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Im at the point in life so many boy cried wolf events that I just dont give a crap anymore about criminal crackhead rights.
 
thebigt said:
for every action there is a reaction...tbh, i would not have the restraint i have seen cops exhibit. there was a time when people knew if they behaved with disrespect/violence towards to police they would get it back X10. today these people think they should be able to spit on and throw bricks at cops with no repercussions.

there is a severe shortage of police, no one wants to subject themselves and their families to the abuse and violence being shown to police officers today-including being ambushed and murdered.
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It is the cops job to show restraint. That is literally what they are paid to do.

If they cant hack it, they shouldnt be cops. It's a frustrating job dealing with criminals all day, but that doesnt give them the right to react like that while doing their job.
 
GreenMachineX said:
We’re being trolled. Just stop responding. Took me a few posts to figure it out, but I’m done.
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Lol Im just getting started. Im going to start the next Revolution and save the Republic from these liberal nanny state New Zealanders out to strip our freedoms away :)
 
Jiigzz said:
It is the cops job to show restraint. That is literally what they are paid to do.

If they cant hack it, they shouldnt be cops. It's a frustrating job dealing with criminals all day, but that doesnt give them the right to react like that while doing their job.
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We have more police than the entire NZ military. Bad shyt happens when you have low life criminal scum all over the place.
 
ax1 said:
Im at the point in life so many boy cried wolf events that I just dont give a crap anymore about criminal crackhead rights.
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Well unfortunately for you, the constitution gives them rights. Which apparently you uphold yet dont really care when cops dont?
 
Jiigzz said:
He was being arrested, in case you didn't notice. The cops job is not to run and kick someone's head, period.

The fact that you condone that speaks volumes about your character.
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was he being arrested for violence against a police officer?..emotions run deep when you see a co-worker get severly injured-it is no justification but it is human nature...if i saw someone severly harm one of my family members i would shot them dead on the spot.
 
Jiigzz said:
Well unfortunately for you, the constitution gives them rights. Which apparently you uphold yet dont really care when cops dont?
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If people stop violating other people's constutitional rights, they wouldnt find themselves on the ground with a cop knee to their temple.
 
Jiigzz said:
Well unfortunately for you, the constitution gives them rights. Which apparently you uphold yet dont really care when cops dont?
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But yes of course I support proper due process, but when liberals endlessly defend the scummiest criminal filth on the planet there is something morally wrong with our culture.
 
thebigt said:
was he being arrested for violence against a police officer?..emotions run deep when you see a co-worker get severly injured-it is no justification but it is human nature...if i saw someone severly harm one of my family members i would shot them dead on the spot.
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They signed up for that line of work and they are expected to remain calm and not react like that.

They had the guy restrained and detained. He was no longer a threat. Cant handle the heat, get out of the fire
 
ax1 said:
But yes of course I support proper due process, but when liberals endlessly defend the scummiest criminal filth on the planet there is something morally wrong with our culture.
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cops risk their lives to arrest criminals---3 hours later liberals put them back on the street.
 
thebigt said:
AMEN
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I dont steal cars....I go to the run range pull my legal guns out right in front of cops and shoot and then ask if they want to try any of them, I never end up on the ground with a cop ankle up my balls. Go figure!
 
ax1 said:
If people stop violating other people's constutitional rights, they wouldnt find themselves on the ground with a cop knee to their temple.
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Still have the right to not be kicked in the head by a cop who cant control his actions.

And you guys wonder how the protests started lol.
 
Jiigzz said:
Still have the right to not be kicked in the head by a cop who cant control his actions.

And you guys wonder how the protests started lol.
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Well what happened to that police officer? Did you follow up on that? Did he get in trouble for that?
 
ax1 said:
I dont steal cars....I go to the run range pull my legal guns out right in front of cops and shoot and then ask if they want to try any of them, I never end up on the ground with a cop ankle up my balls. Go figure!
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Breonna Taylor was shot dead in her own house because police executed a warrant on the wrong house.

All the police said was "lol oops"
 
Jiigzz said:
Still have the right to not be kicked in the head by a cop who cant control his actions.

And you guys wonder how the protests started lol.
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because libbies like you keep justifying criminal actions, lol.
 
ok, i'm out...would rather spend my time chillin to david gilmour live in pompeii.
 
thebigt said:
trust me i wouldn't hesitate to shoot you dead in both eyes if you harmed one of my family members--how is that for restraint?
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Then you wouldnt make a good cop. Threatening to kill is quite a serious offence where I'm from
 
Jiigzz said:
Breonna Taylor was shot dead in her own house because police executed a warrant on the wrong house.

All the police said was "lol oops"
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And then when my man Rand Paul is the one Senator to step forward and introduces a bill to end no-knock warrents, he gets shyt over, harassed and threatened by BLM supporters on the street who then go out and vote for Groper Joe who created the big government unconstitutional police state the past 5 decades.
 
ax1 said:
Well what happened to that police officer? Did you follow up on that? Did he get in trouble for that?
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It took you a page of ranting to finally ask. Yes, he was relieved of duty because, as it turns out, it wasn't in his job description to run up and boot the guy in the head.

The point is that this happens all the time, and if there wasn't the video then nothing would have happened.
 
Jiigzz said:
It took you a page of ranting to finally ask. Yes, he was relieved of duty because, as it turns out, it wasn't in his job description to run up and boot the guy in the head.

The point is that this happens all the time, and if there wasn't the video then nothing would have happened.
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So why is that a problem for you? Due process worked just fine.

It happens all the time when you visit lib.tv every 5 minutes.
 
We have a massive high crime country of 328 million people in the USA, thats about 323 million more than New Zealand.

If the criminals of Chicago alone moved to New Zealand it would be a coup within 48 hours.
 
My job as a cop is to not bash people over the head because they broke the law.

My job is to do everything in my power to catch them, drag them in and hope the judicial process doesn't screw over all that hard work.

Do I wish there were tougher sentences on certain crimes? Hell yeah.

Is it my job to kick someone in the head because they broke the law? No. Do I sometimes wish I could? Yes. But would I ever? No.
 
Jiigzz said:
My job as a cop is to not bash people over the head because they broke the law.

My job is to do everything in my power to catch them, drag them in and hope the judicial process doesn't screw over all that hard work.

Do I wish there were tougher sentences on certain crimes? Hell yeah.

Is it my job to kick someone in the head because they broke the law? No. Do I sometimes wish I could? Yes. But would I ever? No.
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i remember the old saying walk a mile in their shoes....if you are honest you will admit you have no clue what it is like to be a cop in a large American city---one never knows how they would react to a situation until they are in it.....like mike tyson says-everyone has a game plan till they get punched in the face.
 
thebigt said:
i remember the old saying walk a mile in their shoes....if you are honest you will admit you have no clue what it is like to be a cop in a large American city---one never knows how they would react to a situation until they are in it.....like mike tyson says-everyone has a game plan till they get punched in the face.
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I've been in that cops situation many times. Never once did I feel the need to run up and kick a detained man in the head.
 
Jiigzz said:
I've been in that cops situation many times. Never once did I feel the need to run up and kick a detained man in the head.
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i understand you were a cop in new zealand, but i truly feel you are sadly mistaken if you think that experience qualifies you to compare to being a cop in a large American city---you are comparing apples to oranges in all honesty.

we are a society where not only law abiding citizens are armed but the vast majority of criminals also.
 
thebigt said:
i understand you were a cop in new zealand, but i truly feel you are sadly mistaken if you think that experience qualifies you to compare to being a cop in a large American city---you are comparing apples to oranges in all honesty.

we are a society where not only law abiding citizens are armed but the vast majority of criminals also.
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I 100% get that.

Even though that risk is present, one of the officers already had the guy in handcuffs and face down on the ground. He presented absolutely no threat.

Like I said, wanting to kick someone and actually doing it is the line that cops draw every single day. Crossing it makes you no better than them.

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Mans hands are up and on his head. Cop still decides to kick him in the back.

A that was a case of mistaken identity. No crackhead criminal, just someone getting kicked in the back because the police mistook him for someone else.
 
Jiigzz said:
I 100% get that.

Even though that risk is present, one of the officers already had the guy in handcuffs and face down on the ground. He presented absolutely no threat.

Like I said, wanting to kick someone and actually doing it is the line that cops draw every single day. Crossing it makes you no better than them.

Same as this video: Invalid Link Removed

Mans hands are up and on his head. Cop still decides to kick him in the back.
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it was wrong to do that, i am not saying it wasn't...but i also wasn't in that situation and can't say positively that i would not have done the same...being a cop in todays America is not something i would sign up for, and i have a deep respect for those that take on the abuse of many in the public even if they are good cops doing a tough job.....i don't know many people who could live up to the standards you have set for being a cop, if you are honest you cannot be sure you would live up to your own standards.
 
thebigt said:
it was wrong to do that, i am not saying it wasn't...but i also wasn't in that situation and can't say positively that i would not have done the same...being a cop in todays America is not something i would sign up for, and i have a deep respect for those that take on the abuse of many in the public even if they are good cops doing a tough job.....i don't know many people who could live up to the standards you have set for being a cop, if you are honest you cannot be sure you would live up to your own standards.
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A lot of people wish they would do the same.

I worked some pretty horrific child and animal abuse cases where I had to show crazy amounts of restraint
 
Jiigzz said:
A lot of people wish they would do the same.

I worked some pretty horrific child and animal abuse cases which I wish I could have done to them what they did to their animals
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i live here in terre haute where the federal prison with death row is located...i hear the stories on local news about the horrors those scheduled to be executed have committed-really truly heinous stuff!!!

it really puts to the test my anti-capital punishment stance. i stand committed to being against capital punishment but those scumbags don't make it easy for me!!!
 
thebigt said:
i live here in terre haute where the federal prison with death row is located...i hear the stories on local news about the horrors those scheduled to be executed have committed-really truly heinous stuff!!!

it really puts to the test my anti-capital punishment stance. i stand committed to being against capital punishment but those scumbags don't make it easy for me!!!
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Haha I get that as well. I used to wonder how people could do such heinous stuff to each other, until I worked in police and realised some people literally don't think twice about it.
 
Jiigzz said:
Haha I get that as well. I used to wonder how people could do such heinous stuff to each other, until I worked in police and realised some people literally don't think twice about it.
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my personal belief in GOD is strengthened in my belief in evil....i've been giving condensed versions of the crimes those being scheduled for execution had committed, i truly believe that a person has to be evil to commit those kinds of heinous acts against another human being.
 
bidens pick for secretary of veterans affairs is only 2nd non-vet.

i truly believe veterans are going to suffer under biden. he will take money away from VA to pay for pet projects!!!
 
Jiigzz said:
It took you a page of ranting to finally ask. Yes, he was relieved of duty because, as it turns out, it wasn't in his job description to run up and boot the guy in the head.

The point is that this happens all the time, and if there wasn't the video then nothing would have happened.
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In the US, force is only used in .3% of all police/citizen interactions and 1.5% of all arrests. So, “that” doesn’t happen all the time.
 
sammpedd88 said:
In the US, force is only used in .3% of all police/citizen interactions and 1.5% of all arrests. So, “that” doesn’t happen all the time.
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Interestingly, the use of force bill SB 1421 has this section:

(a) Peace officers help to provide one of our state’s most fundamental government services. To empower peace officers to fulfill their mission, the people of California vest them with extraordinary authority — the powers to detain, search, arrest, and use deadly force. Our society depends on peace officers’ faithful exercise of that authority. Misuse of that authority can lead to grave constitutional violations, harms to liberty and the inherent sanctity of human life, as well as significant public unrest.

It's almost like the law expects LEO's to behave in the way I've been stating in this thread for the last few pages. Who knew
 
Jiigzz said:
Interestingly, the use of force bill SB 1421 has this section:

(a) Peace officers help to provide one of our state’s most fundamental government services. To empower peace officers to fulfill their mission, the people of California vest them with extraordinary authority — the powers to detain, search, arrest, and use deadly force. Our society depends on peace officers’ faithful exercise of that authority. Misuse of that authority can lead to grave constitutional violations, harms to liberty and the inherent sanctity of human life, as well as significant public unrest.
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there should be seriously stiff and mandatory penalties to anyone who would physically harm a police officer....not that stupid misdemenor crap that prosectors in liberal cities refuse to prosecute--MANDATORY!!!

this should include spit!!!!
 
thebigt said:
there should be seriously stiff and mandatory penalties to anyone who would physically harm a police officer....not that stupid misdemenor crap that prosectors in liberal cities refuse to prosecute--MANDATORY!!!

this should include spit!!!!
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Heck yeah!!
 
Man, videos like this really put wealth in perspective lol. 10 grains of rice is 1 million.

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it seem biden's nominations are mostly all obama retreads...trump made it a mission to improve the VA and i am here to tell everyone that the VA today is MUCH improved over what it was when obama was in office.

biden's priorities aren't going to be veterans. democrats remember that vets voted mostly for trump, and biden's 'political hack'pick for secretary of veterans affairs shows me biden is looking for payback.
 
thebigt said:
it seem biden's nominations are mostly all obama retreads...trump made it a mission to improve the VA and i am here to tell everyone that the VA today is MUCH improved over what it was when obama was in office.

biden's priorities aren't going to be veterans. democrats remember that vets voted mostly for trump, and biden's 'political hack'pick for secretary of veterans affairs shows me biden is looking for payback.
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I have a feeling Biden will create more Veterans than Trump did though....that child molesting criminal has never seen a war he didn’t like to vote on.
 
dixonk said:
I have a feeling Biden will create more Veterans than Trump did though....that child molesting criminal has never seen a war he didn’t like to vote on.
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i am not looking forward to a biden presidency on any level....and not just as a vet.
 
Jiigzz said:
My job as a cop is to not bash people over the head because they broke the law.

My job is to do everything in my power to catch them, drag them in and hope the judicial process doesn't screw over all that hard work.

Do I wish there were tougher sentences on certain crimes? Hell yeah.

Is it my job to kick someone in the head because they broke the law? No. Do I sometimes wish I could? Yes. But would I ever? No.
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Thats great, and thats what the overwhelming majority of the police in the United States uphold unlike the psycops operations you see on lib.tv
 
thebigt said:
put metalica S@M 2 on hold...anyone heard yet?
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I was going to watch that on Imax and they took it down the day I wanted to book a ticket, lol

Did you get a chance to check out Dream Theater?
 
Jiigzz said:
I 100% get that.

Even though that risk is present, one of the officers already had the guy in handcuffs and face down on the ground. He presented absolutely no threat.

Like I said, wanting to kick someone and actually doing it is the line that cops draw every single day. Crossing it makes you no better than them.

Same as this video: Invalid Link Removed

Mans hands are up and on his head. Cop still decides to kick him in the back.

A that was a case of mistaken identity. No crackhead criminal, just someone getting kicked in the back because the police mistook him for someone else.
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Our police need better support and training, these days its all about "defunding" them and making them all out to be shytholes who dont even belong in a dog house.
 
ax1 said:
Thats great, and thats what the overwhelming majority of the police in the United States uphold unlike the psycops operations you see on lib.tv
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This. There’s some bad cops, because they are people, and some people are bad. The problem is the overdramatized problem of “bad cops”. A video of a bad cop comes out every few months...out of thousand or hundreds of thousands of arrests...come on.
 
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