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Looks like the first test subjects are going to be elderly and nursing homes, I wonder how accurately we will know how it goes??? It’s easy to blame other causes, except it’s never easy to blame other causes the other way around.
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Looks like the first test subjects are going to be elderly and nursing homes, I wonder how accurately we will know how it goes??? It’s easy to blame other causes, except it’s never easy to blame other causes the other way around.
ax1
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Of course if they die or have major adverse events it will just be because they are old
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kisaj
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I share the same mindset. Pro vaccination, but even with our kids we went with the modified plan to reduce any possible issues with so much at once. Until I know more about this, we won't be getting it.
dixonk
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I got the email today as well. They looking for volunteers to take it early. I think I will wait.
ax1
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Come on man!
thebigt
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'hunter biden tax affairs under investigation; links to china funds emerge, sources say'
according to a source the investigation began in 2018...if hunter has been under investigation since 2018 how did joe biden get away with saying he and hunter had been investigated and cleared of all wrongdoings????
according to a source the investigation began in 2018...if hunter has been under investigation since 2018 how did joe biden get away with saying he and hunter had been investigated and cleared of all wrongdoings????
ax1
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I havent heard that but I wouldnt be suprised if there was some kind of certificate or at most ID card that will let you do certain things like going to a baseball game, flying, traveling to other states, etc.....
ax1
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scarry-eh?
Not as scary as wanting to keep my own money that I worked for and having the government gun me down for it.
jswain34
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6 deaths / 43k when the trial included a wide range of demographics - including elderly & ppl w vulnerable med conditions. 4/6 deaths were in the placebo group...
Nice try...
thebigt
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just got a email from the corp that runs the altenheim [CarDon] where my mom is in assisted living...apparently all staff and residents will be given mandatory covid vaccinations?
thebigt
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advocates are fighting to stop the execution of brandon bernard'
he is scheduled to be executed here in terre haute at 6pm today....there are significantly more people protesting this execution than any other i have seen, by a large margin.
bernard is black as is 4 of the next 5 scheduled to be executed, the sole white among that group is lisa montgomery who would be 1st woman executed in 70 years.
he is scheduled to be executed here in terre haute at 6pm today....there are significantly more people protesting this execution than any other i have seen, by a large margin.
bernard is black as is 4 of the next 5 scheduled to be executed, the sole white among that group is lisa montgomery who would be 1st woman executed in 70 years.
puccah8808
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Is he the one Kim kardashian is advocating for?
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GreenMachineX
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ax1
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Especially a experimental drug where over 99% of the people will be just fine. If anything all high risk people should be recommended to take it and everybody else can take their own risk. Its not a damn plague or anything.
Ricky10
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Sadly, all the events that commenced this past spring/summer with BLM made me look upon people of color in a much more negative light. I know that sounds terrible but it was such a decisive movement that only spurred negativity and reverse racism on a large scale. Nowadays, when I see a person of color out in the store, I notice them right away- and associate them with riots, looting, and pushing the limits to live above the law. I think everyone is seeing people‘s skin color more than we were before. I think there is a lot of ground for us to recover if we are ever to get back to where things were before BLM initiated their destructive crusade.
puccah8808
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That’s really sad to hear....
Ricky10
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It’s clear that Hunter and his corrupt father are dirty AF!! The dems are already making moves to give Beijing Biden the boot to usher in Kamala...
Ricky10
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Maybe it’s just me. Does anyone else feel that way? I really can’t tell because I tend to go against the grain with many things..
puccah8808
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Well, I grew up in the hood and even though I live in the suburbs now, I’m still traumatized by the environment and people I grew up in/with, so...... when I see them or go into the ghetto, I avoid wearing anything patriotic and clutch my invisible pearls.
ax1
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Its really weird, I never been like this but now I have in the back of my mind when I see someone of a different race and wonder if they associate me with their oppression and wonder if they think I owe them something. Sometimes at least, I gotta get that outta my head.
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Former Israeli space security chief says extraterrestrials exist, and Trump knows about it
A "galactic federation" has been waiting for humans to "reach a stage where we will understand... what space and spaceships are," Haim Eshed said.
Dec. 8, 2020, 8:52 AM EST / Updated Dec. 8, 2020, 3:29 PM EST
By Adela Suliman and Paul Goldman
A former Israeli space security chief has sent eyebrows shooting heavenward by saying that earthlings have been in contact with extraterrestrials from a "galactic federation."
"The Unidentified Flying Objects have asked not to publish that they are here, humanity is not ready yet," Haim Eshed, former head of Israel's Defense Ministry's space directorate, told Israel's Invalid Link Removednewspaper. The interview in Hebrew ran on Friday, and gained traction after parts were published in English by the Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.
A respected professor and retired general, Eshed said the Invalid Link Removed were equally curious about humanity and were seeking to understand "the fabric of the universe."
Eshed said cooperation agreements had been signed between species, including an "underground base in the depths of Mars" where there are American astronauts and alien representatives.
"There is an agreement between the U.S. government and the aliens. They signed a contract with us to do experiments here," he said.
Eshed added that Invalid Link Removed was aware of the extraterrestrials' existence and had been "on the verge of revealing" information but was asked not to in order to prevent "mass hysteria."
"They have been waiting until today for humanity to develop and reach a stage where we will understand, in general, what space and spaceships are," Eshed said, referring to the galactic federation.
The White House and Israeli officials did not immediately respond to NBC News’ request for comment. Sue Gough, a spokesperson for the Pentagon, declined to comment.
A spokesperson for NASA said one of the agency's key goals was the search for life in the universe but that it had yet to find signs of extraterrestrial life.
"Although we have yet to find signs of extraterrestrial life, NASA is exploring the solar system and beyond to help us answer fundamental questions, including whether we are alone in the universe," the spokesperson said in a statement.
Eshed's ideas are spelled out in more detail in "The Universe Beyond the Horizon — conversations with Professor Haim Eshed" by Hagar Yanai published in November.
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A "galactic federation" has been waiting for humans to "reach a stage where we will understand... what space and spaceships are," Haim Eshed said.
Dec. 8, 2020, 8:52 AM EST / Updated Dec. 8, 2020, 3:29 PM EST
By Adela Suliman and Paul Goldman
A former Israeli space security chief has sent eyebrows shooting heavenward by saying that earthlings have been in contact with extraterrestrials from a "galactic federation."
"The Unidentified Flying Objects have asked not to publish that they are here, humanity is not ready yet," Haim Eshed, former head of Israel's Defense Ministry's space directorate, told Israel's Invalid Link Removednewspaper. The interview in Hebrew ran on Friday, and gained traction after parts were published in English by the Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.
A respected professor and retired general, Eshed said the Invalid Link Removed were equally curious about humanity and were seeking to understand "the fabric of the universe."
Eshed said cooperation agreements had been signed between species, including an "underground base in the depths of Mars" where there are American astronauts and alien representatives.
"There is an agreement between the U.S. government and the aliens. They signed a contract with us to do experiments here," he said.
Eshed added that Invalid Link Removed was aware of the extraterrestrials' existence and had been "on the verge of revealing" information but was asked not to in order to prevent "mass hysteria."
"They have been waiting until today for humanity to develop and reach a stage where we will understand, in general, what space and spaceships are," Eshed said, referring to the galactic federation.
The White House and Israeli officials did not immediately respond to NBC News’ request for comment. Sue Gough, a spokesperson for the Pentagon, declined to comment.
A spokesperson for NASA said one of the agency's key goals was the search for life in the universe but that it had yet to find signs of extraterrestrial life.
"Although we have yet to find signs of extraterrestrial life, NASA is exploring the solar system and beyond to help us answer fundamental questions, including whether we are alone in the universe," the spokesperson said in a statement.
Eshed's ideas are spelled out in more detail in "The Universe Beyond the Horizon — conversations with Professor Haim Eshed" by Hagar Yanai published in November.
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Jiigzz
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It is sad, especially because the alt right have been behind the starting of BLM riots to undermine the movement.
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GreenMachineX
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You honestly believe that alt right, all 300 of them or whatever across the entire US, is responsible for ALL the destruction from the BLM protests?
GreenMachineX
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I don’t see any races any different, but my faith in people is severely shaken. It’s been very disappointing to see some friends whom I believe to be free thinkers to fall for the garbage. Then, to see half the entire country fall for it...it’s very sad. Appealing to emotions as opposed to actual statistics/math/etc works apparently.
dixonk
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As did the lives he ended and ruined in consequence...
sammpedd88
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I’d love to tell his attorney that, evidently Todd and Stacie Bagley’s lives didn’t matter to your client, therefore his own life doesn’t matter to him. Everyone in the US knows what the sentence can be for a murder conviction. **** that piece of ****.
dixonk
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Actions should always have equal or greater consequences. It’s the only real deterrence we have.
ax1
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That could have been started by the government to inflitrate and fuel division. You should look into stuff like COINTELPRO.
And if it wasnt the government, you cant just blame the ALT right. I dont think it was the ALT right burning up police stations, businesses, and trashing cities just because some violent criminal crack head scumbag had a knee to his neck.
On top of that Antifa is a openly violent organization and they themselves butt in the business of BLM.
HIT4ME
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Yeah, and the FBI is using evidence from Hunter's laptop - which none of the Bidens has ever stated was not his, and which contains evidence Joe took secretive payments that were laundered through his son, while VP. But hey, it's OK - Twitter, Facebook, CNN - they all blocked the story and did everything they could to shut it down. Who cares? We can still trust those sources for their integrity. They didn't sway an election with their propaganda at all. Talk about interference.
You are willing to admit what a lot of people won't say out loud, or even admit to themselves. I won't paint all black people with that brush, but I think I have a heightened sense of "black privilege" now - you know, the privilege where a black person should be allowed to do something because they are black and any attempt to punish bad behavior is "racist".
Really? This is like when there was rioting at the Trump rallies 4 years ago and the news tried to spin it to make it Trump's fault for the rioting. I had a friend talking about it and I asked...have you heard about rioting at Hillary rallies? Um...no.
Do you think Trump supporters are rioting at Trump rallies? ......crickets.....
If you think the BLM rioters aren't responsible for their rioting, you are reaching pretty far to try to justify an unfounded view.
Good way to put it. I also see a lot of white people trying to virtue signal through the BLM movement. They tend to be the same type of people who talk about saving the planet. It's sad to see such a low level of critical thinking in our society, and all the propaganda that people will fall for.
This is a big problem with society today. There are no consequences - we live in a world where we want to do what we want and not pay for the consequences. I want to be who I am, and regardless of what I am doing I don't want to be offended by you making fun of it or having a different view. My view point is all that matters and the world has to adjust to me, not me to the world.
ax1
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Come on man, it was just an idea!
jswain34
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I know this isnt what youre saying exactly, but you cant honestly think that ALL Trump supporters have common sense, are of average “intelligence”, and free autonomous thinkers just because they think the election was stolen from them, can you? Trump supporters have just as much of a mob mentality as the other side, please dont kid yourself man.
Even if there was voter fraud (which, i do absolutely agree needs to be investigated and if found to be present punished to the fullest extent of the law), have you seen legitimate evidence that the degree of voter fraud would’ve changed the outcome of the election? I know you have your theories and the hypothetical math worked out from counties that you think it could’ve happened in, but is there any REAL evidence? Seriously asking, not rhetorical. I trust you to be objective about it.
GreenMachineX
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You said yourself that’s not what he’s saying...
But to address one particular point, no. Trump supporters do not have just as much as a mob mentality as the BLM protestors. Or, if they do (have the mentality), the consequences of their gatherings do not cause the same destruction. There are evil people on both sides, of course. There are people that wish to watch the world burn on both sides. But to say the sides are equal...? Really?
Edit: And to clarify another point you made, of course there’s idiots on both sides
. But we’re not going to go down the numbers road again; it’s clear that emotions were appealed to, not fact gathering. I’m still waiting for people to catch on to how many black people die in hospitals, but no one talks about doctors being a problem.
jswain34
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You said yourself that’s not what he’s saying...
But to address one particular point, no. Trump supporters do not have just as much as a mob mentality as the BLM protestors. Or, if they do (have the mentality), the consequences of their gatherings do not cause the same destruction. There are evil people on both sides, of course. There are people that wish to watch the world burn on both sides. But to say the sides are equal...? Really?
Edit: And to clarify another point you made, of course there’s idiots on both sides. But we’re not going to go down the numbers road again, it’s clear that emotions were appealed to, not fact gathering. I’m still waiting for people to catch on to how many black people die in hospitals, but no one talks about doctors being a problem.
. But we’re not going to go down the numbers road again, it’s clear that emotions were appealed to, not fact gathering. I’m still waiting for people to catch on to how many black people die in hospitals, but no one talks about doctors being a problem.
In the mob mentality, meaning “well this is what all my other fellow trump supporters are saying/doing/thinking, so i should too” - yes, theyre absolutely the same. Do they go off the wall and destroy property - no, and I commend them for that, but thats not what I said.
And to address your edit: yah, people absolutely do talk about disparities in healthcare. A shît ton. Even healthcare providers talk about it. There are entire conferences and lecture series about it.
ax1
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I would argue that there arent any Dump supporters that have common sense, have average intelligence and are free autonomous thinkers at all. If they did have such traits they would have surely in fact argued that the election was rigged but also added Dump was all part of it.
Election rigging all happened when they blocked out any opposition parties from having a voice and oppressing the American people from competitive voices on the debate stage.
So if you are looking for definitive evidence of election fraud I just laid it out, but Dump supporters obviously and very clearly only cling to the election fraud that directly may have hurt them, are being short sighted and live a double standard.
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