Donald Trump running for president

But somehow, from his basement, he suddenly drummed up such amazing support and became the most popular man in American history.

Dude, you're missing the point. It was never Biden's popularity... it was Trump's unpopularity. Every poll illustrates that. You would have to live in a red bubble not to see it. And some of you do, admittedly.

Proof? No.

Agreed there.

Sorry, but you guys are essentially a cult at this point. It's pathological. Get upset all you want, but you've been duped by one of the biggest conmen of the modern era, and it's a willful ignorance you maintain. You have to know it. But yeah... the Biden voters are the dummies. Got it.

Good grief, man. Godspeed.
 
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Obama definitely holds a grudge for Trump revoking so many of the damaging policies that the Obama/Biden administration set in place. Now he attacks Trump every chance he gets with fictional narratives. It’s disgusting to say the least.

Riiiiiiiiiight. Lol, next thing you know Obama will say Trump wasn't born in the U.S. and start some kind of birther conspiracy on a sitting president.

Seriously can't believe you typed that. My gawd. Obama has been a class act for the last 4 years and rarely said Trump's name, even when the latter was STILL tweet-raging over him.

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Obama definitely holds a grudge for Trump revoking so many of the damaging policies that the Obama/Biden administration set in place. Now he attacks Trump every chance he gets with fictional narratives. It’s disgusting to say the least.

Having said that, I think Pelosi would rank #1 on Trump’s list of most hated people and he is certainly not alone!

And Michelle is salty at Melania because she never reached out to her for help...
 
Riiiiiiiiiight. Lol, next thing you know Obama will say Trump wasn't born in the U.S. and start some kind of birther conspiracy on a sitting president.

Seriously can't believe you typed that. My gawd. Obama has been a class act for the last 4 years and rarely said Trump's name, even when the latter was STILL tweet-raging over him.

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lol...that is the funniest thing i've heard in weeks-obama and class act in same sentence--- :D

i remember obama on jimmy kimmel saying well donald 'i might be the worst president in history but at least i will go down as a president'...burned obama to the bone when trump got elected:cool:
 
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lol...that is the funniest thing i've heard in weeks-obama and class act in same sentence--- :D

i remember obama pointing to trump and saying 'i might be the worse president but at least i am president'...burned obama to the bone when trump got elected:cool:

Oh, you mean in jest, during a "Mean Tweets" segment... on Jimmy Kimmel... a comedy show? (gasp) Spin, spin, sugar.
 
Is that a question? Because you know the answer. Or is it a subtle suggestion that all former military are supposed to be GOP puppets because they pander to us? Nah.
yes, question...what branch?
 
Attack squadron out of Alameda... worked mostly with ECM pods on old A-6's, then AIMD (shop level) the rest of the way.
fleet duty? those a6's were some noisey f'ers. even noiser than f-14s, imo
 
fleet duty? those a6's were some noisey f'ers. even noiser than f-14s, imo

Those A-6's were absolute analog junk. :D We had to fix at least 3 different systems every single time we reconfigured them for ECM vs. bombing and vice versa. We were around F-14s a lot because we would det down to Miramar back when it was still Navy and Top Gun. Met some TG pilots. They were complete dorks. Hahaha
 
Those A-6's were absolute analog junk. :D We had to fix at least 3 different systems every single time we reconfigured them for ECM vs. bombing and vice versa. We were around F-14s a lot because we would det down to Miramar back when it was still Navy and Top Gun. Met some TG pilots. They were complete dorks. Hahaha

Did you by any chance happen to run into Lieutenant Pete Mitchell or work on his plane at all?
 
Those A-6's were absolute analog junk. :D We had to fix at least 3 different systems every single time we reconfigured them for ECM vs. bombing and vice versa. We were around F-14s a lot because we would det down to Miramar back when it was still Navy and Top Gun. Met some TG pilots. They were complete dorks. Hahaha
f-14s were cream of the crop back in late 70s-80s...pilots kinda kept to themselves but the ike had a great gym and we had the old udt seals onboard, used to workout and go drinking with em-never a dull moment on liberty with those guys...the big ass samoan marines on the new orleans got me in more trouble though, you go out drinking with those guys guarantee bar brawl!!!

the ike had CCtv and used to show fight ops all day, saw so many touch and go's i was sick of it...now i go to youtube to watch carrier landings and miss it, lol.
 
Did you by any chance happen to run into Lieutenant Pete Mitchell or work on his plane at all?

You know... not gonna lie... watching 'Top Gun' as a teenager had an effect on me. Plus my dad and grandpa were former Navy (WWII, Korean War, Vietnam)... but I swear I never realized until it was too late that the ONLY enlisted guy in the movie had coffee spilled all over him. Smh
 
Riiiiiiiiiight. Lol, next thing you know Obama will say Trump wasn't born in the U.S. and start some kind of birther conspiracy on a sitting president.

Seriously can't believe you typed that. My gawd. Obama has been a class act for the last 4 years and rarely said Trump's name, even when the latter was STILL tweet-raging over him.
Well, Obama just refers to Trump as “this president“ before condemning him with false narratives rather than calling him by name. He certainly isn’t the only one guilty of that though..
 
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Good Ol Gavin...eating a $300 meal with some of friends with ZERO social distancing taking place....
 
How long are people going to put up with this sh1t?
 
Good Ol Gavin...eating a $300 meal with some of friends with ZERO social distancing taking place....

I have many issues regarding Newsom, but maybe we should compare his actions to the inactions of GOP governors in South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, etc when it comes to flattening the curve and saving lives. How's that working out? Selective outrage much?

And don't give me that "individual responsibility" nonsense. You can't argue that half the country is cognitively challenged and then expect them to act with intelligence and care.
 
What’s even more scary to me is did he really think that he wouldn’t get caught? It’s kind of like when shitbag Pelosi got her hair done without a mask on in that salon.

Not a Nancy fan at all, but to be fair, she didn't think she'd be caught... because she was too dopey to realize it was a setup by the Republican salon owner. But no, it wasn't okay at all, nor was Gavin being his elitist self. But again... the selective outrage is ridiculous.
 
But I'll say this: Newsom owned it and apologized. When's the last time the current POTUS modeled either of those things?
 
Not a Nancy fan at all, but to be fair, she didn't think she'd be caught... because she was too dopey to realize it was a setup by the Republican salon owner. But no, it wasn't okay at all, nor was Gavin being his elitist self. But again... the selective outrage is ridiculous.

I actually thought the outrage was actually very underwhelming.
 
But I'll say this: Newsom owned it and apologized. When's the last time the current POTUS modeled either of those things?

He lied and there were more lies in that circle when it first leaked out. You really believe that???? He wouldnt think twice to do it all over again except be more careful as to get away with it.
 
Good Ol Gavin...eating a $300 meal with some of friends with ZERO social distancing taking place....

So did he and everybody else at the table pay a fine? Or is it different rules for different folks?

Go to the beach all alone and your not a part of the club you get handcuffed and ticketed. Refuse to comply they will kill you. If your the Governor enforcing all these immoral unconstitutional criminal rules, well.....just say ssooorrrryyyyyyy
 
He lied and there were more lies in that circle when it first leaked out. You really believe that???? He wouldnt think twice to do it all over again except be more careful as to get away with it.

Dafuk does it matter what I believe?? We believe what we want to. I simply said he apologized.
 
Please explain to me in great detail how Newsom's decisions on the virus positively affect him and his future political aspirations. How does he gain from this? Short answer: He doesn't. I live in CA, and I can tell you this virus situation has done him no favors. So then what is the motivation? Try not to involve pedophilia, pizza parlor basements, Tom Hanks, or misuse of the term socialism.
 
Oh your cool, I just have a great joy bashing him because of my personal bias's against him.

Kudos. Seriously. That kind of honesty is refreshing.

I can't stand him for a few different reasons... but his pandemic response just isn't one of them. Especially relative to what other governors haven't done. It could be a lot worse here without some of his decisions.
 
But I'll say this: Newsom owned it and apologized. When's the last time the current POTUS modeled either of those things?
I don’t know, I guess we’ll have to wait and find out if/when he actually does do something that warrants an apology. Just because he gets blamed for every China virus death in this country doesn’t mean his response was inadequate. Just because he gets blamed for the riots and looting, doesn’t mean he wasn’t ready to do everything he could to stop it. Just because he openly speaks or tweets truths that people don‘t want to believe or talk about are also not reasons for apologies.

In my eyes, there are many people and political entities who should be owning up and taking responsibility for creating or endorsing all the destructive bullshit going on in this country. Despite what MSM and the China Biden campaign want people to believe- Trump is not one of them.
 
Dude, you're missing the point. It was never Biden's popularity... it was Trump's unpopularity. Every poll illustrates that. You would have to live in a red bubble not to see it. And some of you do, admittedly.



Agreed there.

Sorry, but you guys are essentially a cult at this point. It's pathological. Get upset all you want, but you've been duped by one of the biggest conmen of the modern era, and it's a willful ignorance you maintain. You have to know it. But yeah... the Biden voters are the dummies. Got it.

Good grief, man. Godspeed.

I love how, whenever people are missing the point, they often think the other side isn't getting it. I just thought it was self explanatory. If we believe YOUR hypothesis that Biden actually got all those votes, then he beat THE MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT In HISTORY. Trump got more votes than anyone in the history of the US. With the exception of a guy who had empty rallies on the rare occasion he came out of his basement.

And Trump's popularity doesn't have statistical anomalies. He is pretty even throughout the areas he won, and also in at least 3 states he lost, closely, to Biden. Except in those 3 states, Biden has one district with 90% turnouts where he took, for instance in Dane County, 260,000 votes to Trump's 78,000 votes and those extra 182,000 votes yielded a 21,000 vote victory in the state for Biden.

Every other district in the state was either a close win for Biden (very few of them) or a few close wins for Trump, and MANY outright wins where Trump destroyed Biden.

And, as is the liberal narrative, Trump voters didn't mail in their votes, which is why Biden won. So, Trump pulled that off with very few mail-ins.

The point is,, he wasn't nearly as unpopular as the media wants to make people believe.

But you have avoided answering any of my questions, avoided any mathematical analysis,, etc....which is pretty common. Like you later admit, the facts don't matter, you will believe what you want to believe, not what is reality based.

And, the issue maybe isn't that others live in a red bubble. Being from CA I think it is safe to say you live in a blue bubble. I mean, your state continues to vote Democrat as your cities fall into ruin and your legislators continue to pass unconstitutional laws that the SC overturns. But hey, I live in MA so I would say I am in a blue bubble too.

And I was pretty clear, I am not saying there is fraud, the stats are pretty suspicious though - and warrant further investigation. But then again, so does Hunter's laptop. It is good to be elite though, you can avoid all those inconveniences.

Riiiiiiiiiight. Lol, next thing you know Obama will say Trump wasn't born in the U.S. and start some kind of birther conspiracy on a sitting president.

Seriously can't believe you typed that. My gawd. Obama has been a class act for the last 4 years and rarely said Trump's name, even when the latter was STILL tweet-raging over him.

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You do realize that Obama refused to post a birth certificate, which is required to be president, and then his party (after defending him for 8 years) made a big thing out of Trump's tax returns (not required to be president - just a recent tradition).

And then they made up a Russia and Ukraine scandal and impeached him over it - for trying to investigate wrong doing that Joe brags about on video and now it turns out the FBI has an open investigation against Hunter. So, um, we cannot investigate crimes now? Come on man. Who is part of a cult here?
 
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I think the Navy has more liberals veterans than any branch I've seen....interesting....
 
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And I was pretty clear, I am not saying there is fraud, the stats are pretty suspicious though - and warrant further investigation. But then again, so does Hunter's laptop. It is good to be elite though, you can avoid all those inconveniences.

Keeping observers away from observing may not be "fraud" but Im not sure Id call it plain "suspicious" either.
 
Kudos. Seriously. That kind of honesty is refreshing.

I can't stand him for a few different reasons... but his pandemic response just isn't one of them. Especially relative to what other governors haven't done. It could be a lot worse here without some of his decisions.

"Could be alot worse" depends who's shoes your in....if you lost your business and have trouble keeping/lost your home and feeding your family because he made it illegal for you to do so then you may have a different story.

So yeah you can do things, but for many the solution is far worse than the problem, and sure you can say the problem is death, but for most its probably less riskier than driving to work and suicides are going up nationally. Destroying the economic needs and stability of a state/country is not a solution.

All this started as a quick couple week lockdown so the medical system can retool and redesign itself into meeting the needs of the market (basically unregulating itself from authoritarian government lol) and it quickly became something else which us tinfoil people been warning about the consequences of allowing government to even touch your rights for a smidgen.
 
Well this isnt going anywhere for a long time, Dump announced clear path to victory, details at 12.

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Well, I mean this thread wouldn't be complete without the subtle homophobia. I think you guys have covered all the bases.

I stand up for the rights and liberties of homosexuals more than most homosexuals do.
 
But you have avoided answering any of my questions, avoided any mathematical analysis,, etc....which is pretty common. Like you later admit, the facts don't matter, you will believe what you want to believe, not what is reality based.

I was referring to an apology, for gawd's sake. You either believe it or you don't. It's not a reality thing. But way to twist EVERYTHING that doesn't argue your point.

Mathematical analysis??? Lol, here you go... 306 > 232

You seem to care an awful lot about being perceived as aware and intelligent, so don't worry... I don't believe for a minute you're this thick.
 
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