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I dont know my man, if they had it or not I never really gave a damn. And honestly it doesnt pay to disarm, there is no loyalty, clear example was Lybia who was very compliant with WMD's.

I look at it like this, China is loaded with nukes and they are no better than Saddam. You can say they are way worse. We made a deal with the devil Mao in the early 70's, a full nuclear power and a government that slaughtered up to 100 million of their own people along with other ethnicities, Mao was worse than Hitlery in some ways. We opened up trade and became friends with China. As evil as China is now they are way better now than they were back then....we have a problem with the government being sell outs to them but thats another storry.

Thats quick random thoughts from my head, this is a real deep and complicated issue where people who make opposing viewpoints to mine do have fair valid points as well.

I hear you and agree. I just always cringe when I read that we invaded for nothing and there was no weapons of mass destruction. Whether us doing so was right or wrong is debatable, and frankly I have very mixed feelings, but to say there was nothing there? Nope. That dude was fucking evil. The difference between his evil and chinas evil is he made no attempt to disguise or hide it.
 
I am referring to weaponry. Would you consider chemical weapons as a weapon of mass destruction? Nuclear capable rockets?

They can be, but they can also be considered as a self defensive deterrent.

Its kinda like the guns argument, its not gun who kills, its the people.

But now you have people with these dangerous weapons in unstable regions that have had the west since the time of the British Empire create civil wars, have had oil and resources ripped from them, have had dictators assassinated only to be replaced by other dictators,

Its a big mess. I just want to worry about the USA, still have the most powerful military in the universe and let other countries worry about their own problem. Call and talk to them, once they get addicted to the green from trade and new comforts of modernization they will become less of a threat.
 
More China Virus logic. I have to fly to Africa for work next week. In order to fly I need a negative China Virus test. In order to get said China virus test I need to go to a facility filled with sick people getting tested for China virus that are pretty sure they have it.

Wouldn’t it be some **** that I avoided it this whole time and I catch the fucking thing going to get a negative test so I can fly???

Well, the real beauty is you could be healthy, go for a test, get infected at a testing site, still have a clean test, get on a plane thinking you are gtg and infect a plateful of people. Accept most of them also got infected at the hospital getting their test to get on the plane.

i'm sorry but imo, it is a bit premature to call biden mr.president before inauguration/swearing in ceremony.

What do you call someone who has to plagiarize to finish at the bottom of his law class?

It could be Mr. President soon.


He should and will! This is just phase 2 of his campaign for election in 2020. Trump knew this was going to happen (with the exception of China virus) shortly after he got elected in 2016. He was well aware that this was going to be an election stacked against him.

I have a suspicion that he has his own (legal) tricks up his sleeve that were already somewhat prepared for this scenario. Trump is a smart man with a strong will, and he is still in a position of power. The next few weeks/months offers plenty of opportunity for things to surface.

Something tells me Amy Coney Barrett is going to emerge again and play a critical role in the storyline at the end of this movie.

Thinking you may be optimistic, but hope you are right. Would love to see people freak when. They think Biden won and then he didn't.
 
I hear you and agree. I just always cringe when I read that we invaded for nothing and there was no weapons of mass destruction. Whether us doing so was right or wrong is debatable, and frankly I have very mixed feelings, but to say there was nothing there? Nope. That dude was fucking evil. The difference between his evil and chinas evil is he made no attempt to disguise or hide it.

I wouldnt say they had "nothing"...

In regards to chemical weapons it is my understanding the US Government gave Saddam the chemicals to attack Iran in the late 80s in the first place.

Its all crazy fuqed up world. Its just like Korea, it was under Clinton I believe we have North Koreans nuclear tech as another popular example.
 
Interesting side note: Biden just announced that he will put a man who has said, "Every life matters" to run his Covid team. Of course, he was fired by Trump because he was incompetent, this covid response is going to be excellent.
 
I hear you and agree. I just always cringe when I read that we invaded for nothing and there was no weapons of mass destruction. Whether us doing so was right or wrong is debatable, and frankly I have very mixed feelings, but to say there was nothing there? Nope. That dude was fucking evil. The difference between his evil and chinas evil is he made no attempt to disguise or hide it.

Saddam was the perfect CIA puppet when they put him in power, and then he became a little pro-Iraq for the US Government's taste-buds.

He is a total scumbag and the people of Iraq always deserved better, I will never debate against that!
 
lol...he so funny.
Where were the democrats and their unity the past 3 years and 10 months? Her and her husband did nothing but hurt race relations in the US. Also created the BLM movement and the cop hating.
She should be more specific in terms of what reaching out to Trump supporters actually means. She condemns us with claims that explain themselves to a T (as usual), and then suggests that we are going to unify.

I still don’t even know what those empty words even mean. What actions are going to create a sense of unity when we hold a completely different set of priorities and values?
 
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You do know that specifically the polio vaccine that used to be given by mouth has been done away with and replaced with the shot that was given for many years before the oral vaccine. The oral vaccine contained the live virus the shot contained the inactive virus. Children were getting polio from the oral vaccine. How do I know this? My practice wife asked the pediatrician to give me son , who is now 21 years old, the inactive shot and he told her that the oral vaccine was safe. My ex decided against it and didn’t the the vaccine at all. Within 6 months the feds did away with the oral vaccine. I’m not an antivaxer but I also don’t 100% trust all vaccines or prescription medications. Also there’s no way in hell I’d take a covid vaccine if and when it’s released.

There was that late 70s Swine Flu vaccine if I remember correctly (from reading not because I remember, lol) more people died from the Vaccine than the swine flu.
 
No seriously. I have always been hearing that we went to Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction. But I can’t seem to find a concise definition of what is considered a weapon of mass destruction. If you can answer that question I can anecdotally tell you if it was for nothing or not.

I know Ive said this before and Ill say it again, I blame all the problems on our policy makers. I love my military, they are enlisted to take orders and give their lives for their country and almost all of them do it with professionalism and class. Its because of them that I can vent my honest opinions without the fear of getting a door knock with my face smashed on the floor.
 
I know Ive said this before and Ill say it again, I blame all the problems on our policy makers. I love my military, they are enlisted to take orders and give their lives for their country and almost all of them do it with professionalism and class. Its because of them that I can vent my honest opinions without the fear of getting a door knock with my face smashed on the floor.

Well you are a gun owner now. There is a chance the ATF raids your house, kills your dog, and smashes your face in. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Well, on the other hand mass can be neither created nor destroyed, so no weapon can be used for mass destruction....
 
Well you are a gun owner now. There is a chance the ATF raids your house, kills your dog, and smashes your face in. 🤷🏼‍♂️

LOL Being a registered Libertarian now this year Im sure Im on the list lol

Im doing everything with gun ownership on the books. There are a few stupid cosmetic things Im oppressed in doing so such as adding a pistol grip to my semi-Ruger 10/22, and other things but it is what it is. I dont think Id ever have any problems at all as long as I stick to the books.
 
LOL Being a registered Libertarian now this year Im sure Im on the list lol

Im doing everything with gun ownership on the books. There are a few cosmetic things Im oppressed in doing so such as adding a stupid pistol grip to my semi-Ruger 10/22 but it is what it is. I dont think Id ever have any problems at all as long as I stick to the books.

Especially if you follow any of the boogaloo boys. Those guys are being watched for sure. Heavy libertarian presence there.
 
Especially if you follow any of the boogaloo boys. Those guys are being watched for sure. Heavy libertarian presence there.

I stay away from those groups, although I do fully support the rights of militia's as a natural born right recognized in the Bill of Rights.

Me I stick to my community club....last weekend I had a great time talking to a retired NYPD officer who is a member there, he was feeding me his wisdom on gun handling and safety. I dunno, for me it cant be and better than that.

He showed me his handgun that was issued to him when they moved away from revolvers, in the 90s I think he said. I was like, wow thats cool they let you keep your gun!!! He then laughed out loud, he said "no, they didnt let me keep it, they charged me for it!!!!"
 
I stay away from those groups, although I do fully support the rights of militia's as a natural born right recognized in the Bill of Rights.

Me I stick to my community club....had a great time talking to a retired NYPD officer who is a member there, he was feeding me his wisdom on gun handling and safety. I dunno, for me it cant be and better than that.

He showed me his handgun that was issued to him when they moved away from revolvers, in the 90s I think he said. I was like, wow thats cool they let you keep your gun!!! He then laughed out loud, he said "no, they didnt let me keep it, they charged me for it!!!!"

Sometimes you gotta watch taking gun advise from cops. (No offense @sammpedd88) I’ve been to the qualification course with them several times...that was eye opening to say the least lol. Lot of gun guys in the ranks, but an equal amount of the opposite. And yeah they get to buy their guns when they get new ones.
 
Sometimes you gotta watch taking gun advise from cops. (No offense @sammpedd88) I’ve been to the qualification course with them several times...that was eye opening to say the least lol. Lot of gun guys in the ranks, but an equal amount of the opposite. And yeah they get to buy their guns when they get new ones.

Thanks! Ill be sure to keep a cautious ear and do my own homework afterwords. Meanwhile, when they talk to me again Ill do my best to be respectful for giving me their time.

Ive met a few various people from different fields in life there, I guess I can say Im getting alot of different perspectives the more I talk to people.

One thing Im noticing is gun culture is reminding me of the fitness culture. Alot of people think they are the experts with all the right answers!!! Not everyone but Im sure you can relate to what Im talking about.
 
Just announced they are rescinding their call for Biden for Pennsylvania!!! Real Clear Politics
Apparently Arizona as well, I wonder when/if other projections will reflect that?
Either way, I like what I am seeing!
Well, the real beauty is you could be healthy, go for a test, get infected at a testing site, still have a clean test, get on a plane thinking you are gtg and infect a plateful of people. Accept most of them also got infected at the hospital getting their test to get on the plane.

Thinking you may be optimistic, but hope you are right. Would love to see people freak when. They think Biden won and then he didn't.
I am getting more and more optimistic! I have to remain hopeful, I wasn’t wired to live in a Biden-Harris country.

Yes, it’s funny how people get tested and then they feel like they are somehow safer, or will remain negative as if they are temporarily immune or non-transmissible before an upcoming gathering or event. People forget that it just represents a moment in time, if it was even performed correctly. It’s a relatively harmless means of making people feel better though so whatever....haha!
 
Sometimes you gotta watch taking gun advise from cops. (No offense @sammpedd88) I’ve been to the qualification course with them several times...that was eye opening to say the least lol. Lot of gun guys in the ranks, but an equal amount of the opposite. And yeah they get to buy their guns when they get new ones.

None taken @dixonk. I was my agency’s range master/chief firearms instructor for almost 4 years until my promotion last year. I saw officers that I couldn’t believe were actually officers and some that had no desire to be above a qualifying score. So sad that some are like that. Then you’ve got about 5% that know what’s up and have the mentality of “train how you fight” but most of them are either SWAT, former SWAT are waiting on their time to tryout for SWAT. If my life depended on something you better bet I’d be the best I possibly could be at it but some have the mindset that an OIS will never happen to them.
 
Thanks! Ill be sure to keep a cautious ear and do my own homework afterwords. Meanwhile, when they talk to me again Ill do my best to be respectful for giving me their time.

Ive met a few various people from different fields in life there, I guess I can say Im getting alot of different perspectives the more I talk to people.

One thing Im noticing is gun culture is reminding me of the fitness culture. Alot of people think they are the experts with all the right answers!!! Not everyone but Im sure you can relate to what Im talking about.

In the fitness community we have bro science. In the gun world we have Fudds. Be weary of the fudds. They tend to think the 2A is for hunting Bambi with their thurty thurty. We can credit them with a lot of the anti gun legislation we have today, courtesy of the NRA.
 
None taken @dixonk. I was my agency’s range master/chief firearms instructor for almost 4 years until my promotion last year. I saw officers that I couldn’t believe were actually officers and some that had no desire to be above a qualifying score. So sad that some are like that. Then you’ve got about 5% that know what’s up and have the mentality of “train how you fight” but most of them are either SWAT, former SWAT are waiting on their time to tryout for SWAT. If my life depended on something you better bet I’d be the best I possibly could be at it but some have the mindset that an OIS will never happen to them.

That has been my observation regarding proficiency as well. A lot of departments give monthly training ammo and it is shocking how many officers don’t do anything with it. I think I have told the story here before, when my son was 13 years old I had him out at the PD range and they were doing their qualifications. My son shot in the 90 percentile of the officers out there and 7 of them failed that day. I was both proud and shocked at the same time. Sometimes I wish I don’t get to peek behind the curtain
 
In the fitness community we have bro science. In the gun world we have Fudds. Be weary of the fudds. They tend to think the 2A is for hunting Bambi with their thurty thurty. We can credit them with a lot of the anti gun legislation we have today, courtesy of the NRA.

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I looked that up, freaking Elmer! They could not have come up with a better nickname for these type of people!

Ill tell you what, in a few years once I have good overall knowledge about firearms and shooting and establish a stronger presense at this club, Ill be practicing my skillful means on what properly it means to be a good responsible 2A practitioner for sure! Especially with younger members that come in since Ill be able to influence them the most.
 
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I looked that up, freaking Elmer! They could not have come up with a better nickname for these type of people!

Ill tell you what, in a few years once I have good overall knowledge about firearms and shooting and establish a stronger presense at this club, Ill be practicing my skillful means on what properly it means to be a good responsible 2A practitioner for sure! Especially with younger members that come in since Ill be able to influence them the most.

I tell it like this. My guns exist to make politicians afraid again. There should be so many in circulation and in so many hands that every decision they make it should be on the back of their mind when they are legislating. Obviously we have a long way to go. ALL gun laws are infringements, EVERY single one of them.

They are fun, there is art to them, they are tools, a lot of times they can be considered investments, they are collectible. I can go on and on about it. If you have kids they are a great bonding experience and heirlooms to pass down. My son used to come out and shoot with me every weekend, till I got him a truck, now he just chases pussy all day.
 
A proud moment was my daughter asking me for a gun last year for christmas. Gave her a Glock 43X to keep in her purse and got her a concealed carry class. Now she has taken a big interest in firearms which she liked to go shooting before but it wasn’t a passion or anything.
 
I tell it like this. My guns exist to make politicians afraid again. There should be so many in circulation and in so many hands that every decision they make it should be on the back of their mind when they are legislating. Obviously we have a long way to go. ALL gun laws are infringements, EVERY single one of them.

They are fun, there is art to them, they are tools, a lot of times they can be considered investments, they are collectible. I can go on and on about it. If you have kids they are a great bonding experience and heirlooms to pass down. My son used to come out and shoot with me every weekend, till I got him a truck, now he just chases pussy all day.

I feel like you know everything Im going through....

I did have the longtime club member puzzled as to why I need to use a scope if I dont go hunting. I told him I dont kill animals but if you want to bring me a turkey on the table Ill fully support you. "So, why you need a scope for?" .....I said, "BECAUSE ITS FREAKING FUN!!!!! I FIND GUNS TO BE PIECES OF FASCINATING ART, SHOOTING IS AN AMAZING CRAFT AND RECENTLY FELL IN LOVE WATCHING HICKOCK45 SHOOTING RANDOM GUNS AT FRUIT AND SODA ENJOYING HIMSELF LIKE A 8 YEAR OLD!"

Sorry about the caps, lol

I didnt say it in an offensive way, just made him get it and people around me laughed because they get it too.

Im holding back on my political views for now though and what the 2A means as I said a bit before, now is not the right time there, but I didnt lie to him about what I said.

In another discussion we were talking about advertising for the club and that same hunter said he wanted to avoid this gunshop because they had a big pro-2A sign in front of the store.....WWWTTTFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice guy though, but I dont think there was anything I could have said that would have benefited anything or anybody at that moment.
 
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That has been my observation regarding proficiency as well. A lot of departments give monthly training ammo and it is shocking how many officers don’t do anything with it. I think I have told the story here before, when my son was 13 years old I had him out at the PD range and they were doing their qualifications. My son shot in the 90 percentile of the officers out there and 7 of them failed that day. I was both proud and shocked at the same time. Sometimes I wish I don’t get to peek behind the curtain

Wow! It’s amazing how the general thought is law enforcement should be the greatest shooters but it’s scary how that isn’t true! One of my favorite drills is the feel, eyes, finger drill by Travis Haley. He also calls it the venti 100. It helped me break down the fundamentals in a way that the lowest of the low could truly understand. In 3 years in a row I had zero officers not qualify out of nearly 300 officers and I contribute a lot of it to that one drill.
 
I tell it like this. My guns exist to make politicians afraid again. There should be so many in circulation and in so many hands that every decision they make it should be on the back of their mind when they are legislating. Obviously we have a long way to go. ALL gun laws are infringements, EVERY single one of them.

They are fun, there is art to them, they are tools, a lot of times they can be considered investments, they are collectible. I can go on and on about it. If you have kids they are a great bonding experience and heirlooms to pass down. My son used to come out and shoot with me every weekend, till I got him a truck, now he just chases pussy all day.

Pussy and guns.....nothing better!! You should be proud you taught your son to shoot at a young age.
 
Wow! It’s amazing how the general thought is law enforcement should be the greatest shooters but it’s scary how that isn’t true! One of my favorite drills is the feel, eyes, finger drill by Travis Haley. He also calls it the venti 100. It helped me break down the fundamentals in a way that the lowest of the low could truly understand. In 3 years in a row I had zero officers not qualify out of nearly 300 officers and I contribute a lot of it to that one drill.

Im gonna look into that....I dont have a pistol license yet but I have a couple of high quality replica bb and airsoft guns I can train on, lol
 
A proud moment was my daughter asking me for a gun last year for christmas. Gave her a Glock 43X to keep in her purse and got her a concealed carry class. Now she has taken a big interest in firearms which she liked to go shooting before but it wasn’t a passion or anything.

I grew up around guns as a kid but my father would never ever let me shoot them. One time we were visiting his relative and he had to sons far younger than me and they were shooting what I think was a 22, they handed me the gun I did not hesitate to take it and shoot it......then my father saw and came and ripped the gun out of my hands.

Anyways, I was able to pull off 1 single shot and guess what, I was probably a 1/2" from the very center and closer than all of them with my first and only shot!!!!!

Another true story, 9th grade we did archery in gym class. Told the teacher I never shot an arrow before. Handed it to me and I shot a perfect bullseye, LOL He was pissed at me, he thought I lied to him!!!!

I dunno maybe I have something....but there is a reason I never got into guns, I ended up just hating them for personal reasons, lol!

Guns belong in the hands of kids, any parent reading this please familiarize your kids with guns!
 
Wow! It’s amazing how the general thought is law enforcement should be the greatest shooters but it’s scary how that isn’t true! One of my favorite drills is the feel, eyes, finger drill by Travis Haley. He also calls it the venti 100. It helped me break down the fundamentals in a way that the lowest of the low could truly understand. In 3 years in a row I had zero officers not qualify out of nearly 300 officers and I contribute a lot of it to that one drill.
i shoot at the legion, really blessed here in small town indiana, i go to krogers and every 3rd guy i see is wearing a military ballcap. the legion range here is top notch, and run by a former gysgt.
 
Yes, this is what I hear. I must admit I am not exactly clear as to why?
newsmax would take him in a heartbeat and tucker would take many followers with him...fox is fast becoming part of the MSM.
 
'bernie sanders likely to head up budget committee if senate flips'

GOD help us!!!
 
Yes, this is what I hear. I must admit I am not exactly clear as to why?

He doesnt seem to be in line with the rest of the channel. Did you see how Niel Covuto cut out the WH Press Secretary today and said unless she comes out with facts that they arent going back to her and then went to a commercial?

I dunno there is something about Tucker Ive known for years, many years before he had that job.

I really dont think he goes all the way, and for the record Ive hated Fox for everything they have done to our country propaghating all the war and the war on terror during the Cokey Bush years. But there is something about Tucker.
 
He doesnt seem to be in line with the rest of the channel. Did you see how Niel Covuto cut out the WH Press Secretary today and said unless she comes out with facts that they arent going back to her and then went to a commercial?

I dunno there is something about Tucker Ive known for years, many years before he had that job.

I really dont think he goes all the way, and for the record Ive hated Fox for everything they have done to our country propaghating all the war and the war on terror during the Cokey Bush years. But there is something about Tucker.
tucker is the man...cavuto is a anti-trumper.

right now tucker, maria bartiromo and my true favorite is mollie hemingway...i think mollie hemingway is brilliant.
 
'substantial allegations'

'barr authorizes voting irregularities probe'


the plot thickens!!!
 
"Unless she has more details to back that up I cant continue showing you this"

This is the one of the most direct instances of cencorship
tucker is the man...cavuto is a anti-trumper.

right now tucker, maria bartiromo and my true favorite is mollie hemingway...i think mollie hemingway is brilliant.

Tucker proved to me he is genuinely open minded and willing to listen over a decade ago.

Tucker used to be an extreme critic of the 9/11 truth movement and used to attack Alex Jones....So Alex invited him in studio to have a chat and he went. I saw the live show where Tucker is sitting there and Alex started him showing the Solomon Brothers Building 7 collapse video's and the cold look on Tucker's face, his jaw dropped I can see he realized there there was something seriously wrong with the 9/11 story. Ill never forget that about him.

Here is owner of the Trade Center using code to collapse the building.
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"Unless she has more details to back that up I cant continue showing you this"

This is the one of the most direct instances of cencorship


Tucker proved to me he is genuinely open minded and willing to listen over a decade ago.

Tucker used to be an extreme critic of the 9/11 truth movement and used to attack Alex Jones....So Alex invited him in studio to have a chat and he went. I saw the live show where Tucker is sitting there and Alex started him showing the Solomon Brothers Building 7 collapse video's and the cold look on Tucker's face, his jaw dropped I can see he realized there there was something seriously wrong with the 9/11 story. Ill never forget that about him.

Here is owner of the Trade Center using code to collapse the building.
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tucker has attacked government wrongdoing on both sides of the aisle, he is at heart a conservative republican but not afraid to call out either side.
 
Its amazing how I havent searched for building 7 collapse video's in a long time and the search results have completely changed. Most of the top search results are the official explanations of its collapse.

Even when I type Architects and Engineers I pull up the propaganda. It always used to give me the official Architects and Engineer videos of scientists and experts in various fields explain how the only possibility of its collapse was a controlled demolition and they explained it scientifically.

Damn, Google is a full load of crap, I hate google!
 
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F*ucking ridiculous regardless of what news network it is!

This is all turning into the ultimate cover up story and silencing of a party. The media is making itself look worse than ever! Hard to believe that could even be possible but it’s happening..
 
Searching Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth have screwed up results too, but one of the top was from their official channel where just 2 weeks ago they talked about internet censorship! LOL

They have a newer documentary out now that I didnt know about, here is a trailer.

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Its amazing how I havent searched for building 7 collapse video's in a long time and the search results have completely changed. Most of the top search results are the official explanations of its collapse.

Even when I type Architects and Engineers I pull up the propaganda. It always used to give me the official Architects and Engineer videos of scientists and experts in various fields explain how the only possibility of its collapse was a controlled demolition and they explained it scientifically.

Damn, Google is a full load of crap, I hate google!
just like the splc estimate of 3000 white supremacists disappeared. @Jiigzz kept telling me he couldn't find it and i thought he was full of it until i looked and it was no longer anywhere to be found---it didn't meet the lefts agenda of blaming everything on white supremacists when a liberal group like splc said there were only 3000 in the entire US!!!
 
Searching Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth have screwed up results too, but one of the top was from their official channel where just 2 weeks ago they talked about internet censorship! LOL

They have a newer documentary out now that I didnt know about, here is a trailer.

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Thousands of Scientists, Architects and Engineers are fighting to tell the world about 9/11 and are oppressed and silenced, and then people want to force me to listen to Climate Change scientists and CCP-Virus experts and push their hand selected people down our throats and call me tin foil for being skeptical???? LMFAO FFF-UUUU!
 
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