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Since this is a bodybuilding board, thanks Groper, you have made a significant portion of our community criminals and forced to go to the black market and take risks rather than having grownup discussions and decisions with medical professionals! Yet somehow (and Im not saying here) alot of these "criminals and thugs" voted you in as Puppet in Chief re-enforcing that you should be in prison!

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S.1829 - Steroid Trafficking Act of 1990101st Congress (1989-1990). Bill. Hide Overview. Sponsor: Sen. Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [D-DE] (Introduced 11/01/1989) ... Steroids - Amends the Controlled Substances Act to add anabolic steroids to ...
 
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look it up social security and medicare are on the brink of collapse....i have paid into those since i was 15, and at 62 i still have 3 more years before i qualify....biden and the democrats want to give free medicare to everyone including illegals....btw-if you do qualify for medicare at 65 after paying into it for your lifetime it isn't free-look it up, seniors have to pay for medicare and buy supplement plans to cover many things that aren't covered by basic medicare-including prescriptions...this is stealing from paul to pay peter and i am paul and i am not happy.

by the way retirees will get a very small increase this year of 2%, not even close to cover the increase in prices---if democrats are about a livable wage why aren't they concerned about seniors getting a livable retirement check? i will tell you why, democrats are mainly younger people who don't give a crap about seniors and many even think of them as the enemy and have come up with a degrogatory term-BOOMER.

yup, my age group seems to be on the hate list for many democrats--this is fact!!!
 
Thanks again Groper! People voted for the man that wants government to intrude into people's lives and tell them what they can or cant put into their bodies, but if you want steroids so you can make your voice higher pitched and your testicles shrink your GTG!

RROOOFFFLLLLLL Proud to be American, Land of the Free, as long as you follow orders! OBEY, OBEY, OBEY THE FUROR!!!!!!

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Earlier today, the President signed into law Joe Biden's (D-DE) legislation to ... Biden's Anabolic Steroid Control Act adds 18 substances to the list of banned ...

Biden Measure to Ban Designer Steroids Becomes Law

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Date: Oct. 22, 2004

Location: Washington DC

BIDEN MEASURE TO BAN DESIGNER STEROIDS BECOMES LAW

President Bush Signs Measure Banning Andro Into Law
Friday, October 22, 2004
WASHINGTON, DC

Earlier today, the President signed into law Joe Biden's (D-DE) legislation to make dangerous performance-enhancing drugs illegal.
Biden's Anabolic Steroid Control Act adds 18 substances to the list of banned anabolic steroids, including androstenedione (also known as "andro") and tetrahydrogestrinone (THG). Biden's measure also provides $15 million for education programs to teach kids about the dangers of steroids. It also calls for criminal penalties for those caught making, selling, or possessing these substances.

"Steroid use by young people is a serious health issue. A lot of kids don't know harmful this stuff really is," said Biden, Co-Chairman of the Senate Drug Caucus. "This new law sends a strong message about andro and other steroid precursors - we are calling them what they really are: drugs, performance enhancing drugs. They should be labeled as such, they should be treated as such, and now, thanks to this new law, they will be controlled in the same manner as other anabolic steroids."

"It's not only a health issue but also a values issue," Biden continued. "If kids think that all of the best athletes are 'on the juice,' what does that teach them? I think it teaches them that they should use steroids or steroid precursors to get ahead and win the game; that cheating is OK. This offends me to my core. The United States is the ultimate meritocracy and it is absolutely un-American to take a performance-enhancing drug to get an unfair competitive advantage."

Steroid precursors, or "pro-steroids," are chemically related to the substances scheduled in the 1990 Controlled Substances Act that made trafficking in steroids illegal. When ingested, these substances metabolize into testosterone or other illicit steroids. The United States Anti-Doping Agency, the group in charge of testing Olympic athletes for performance enhancing drugs, has called these products "the functional equivalent of steroids." Many physicians, parents and coaches have called for action against these dangerous products.
 
Lets move up forward 10 more years as our Furor's wonderful career who has worked to Furor-ously protect and preserve the United States Constitution and people's freedoms....

BTW if your Black and take the juice you belong in PRISON, Ronnie Coleman and Shawn Ray LOVE YA GROPER! And of course you would only vote for Joe, because after all black skin pigment votes blue!

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December 11, 2014 - 11:51 PM EST ... H.R. 4771, the Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act, adds "anabolic steroids" to the list on ... The House passed the bill in September, meaning it now heads to President Obama's desk to be signed into law. ... Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Friday said the breadth of votes he's.
 
Nice Career Joe, under your laws Conan and Rocky belong in a prison, but if you smoke crack, into foot smut and are the fruit's of Groper's seed you get a million dollar job with no contract!!!! RRROOOFFFLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!

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@Jiigzz thanks for the book recommendation. I got it on audible and have been listening to it this morning while I had a long drive. While I disagree with some stances, his thought process is reasonable and refreshing. Have you read it? If you want the audible book and haven't read it, DM me an email and I will buy an audible copy for you as a thank you.
 
So who is going to stand in line and be first in line to have Groper Joe personally put a Federal mandatory CCP-Virus needle up your moon? Would you prefer Karamela do it?

It’s a 6’1” needle and Groper will keep his mask on so the vaccine is all safe folks! Someone will be there to set up a barrier so he doesnt fall forward to the 5’11” mark and put your life at risk.
 
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Nice Career Joe, under your laws Conan and Rocky belong in a prison, but if you smoke crack, into foot smut and are the fruit's of Groper's seed you get a million dollar job with no contract!!!! RRROOOFFFLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh, not all contracts are in writing. Trust me, there are contracts in place.
 
i heard on a radio talk show last night [ground zero] that obama had made an agreement with canada for canadian armed forces to intercede in the case of american uprising on his canadian trip in 2009---anyone know anything about this---of course google only talks about trump and is totally worthless.
 
thebigt said:
i heard on a radio talk show last night [ground zero] that obama had made an agreement with canada for canadian armed forces to intercede in the case of american uprising on his canadian trip in 2009---anyone know anything about this---of course google only talks about trump and is totally worthless.
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What were they going to do? Come here and apologize us to death?
 
dixonk said:
What were they going to do? Come here and apologize us to death?
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according to the radio show it would be a kind of house to house taking of weapons---i haven't found any proof of this but you can archive the show GROUND ZERO and get the full story there.

clive lewis and his show come out of portland and i always thought he was more left of center, but he is like @ax1 and seems to have a equal dislike for both parties.
 
ground zero on youtube---10/07/11 occupy portland

he called this one right.
 
thebigt said:
according to the radio show it would be a kind of house to house taking of weapons---i haven't found any proof of this but you can archive the show GROUND ZERO and get the full story there.

clive lewis and his show come out of portland and i always thought he was more left of center, but he is like @ax1 and seems to have a equal dislike for both parties.
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Defending against Canadians would be ideal if it would ever come down to that
 
ground zero radio 10/10/11 obama's empire...youtube video.

interesting

@dixonk and @ax1 i highly recommend you watch this video. you too @HIT4ME and @Ricky10

be sure and read the comments
 
'census takers say they were told to enter false information'

maria arce claims her supervisor pressured her to falsify information and explained how to do it.
 
'iran calls US election a SPECTACLE, says it is a clear sign of decline'

for the 1st time since 1979 i agree with iran-imo, electing biden is a definate sign of american decline.

iran also called bidens election a big positive---i guess biden plans on giving them another 1.5 trillion to spread terror in middle east?
 
here is a quote from a democrat:
the US is a federal republic with some democratic elements to it like periodic elections. seeing all these silly claims of 'democracy' in relation to the US that make no real sense as the american founders were trying purposefully to avoid that historically tragic fate....

now, if you were looking for a un-american, un-patriotic quote here it is....this is truly what many[most]democrats think of the US Constitution, imo.
 
Come on pedo joe...I thought your scam election was supposed to unite us? You can’t even unite your own leftist trash.
 
ok, went for my run this morning, my wife and i went ans spent a little time with grandkids, had a nice lunch and did my vent here in the trumps thread...now it's time for 2gms of phenibut and some pink floyd!!!

today it will be pink floyd-the last concert [gilmour, waters, mason, wright]
 
Rudy Guiliani and Alex Jones... beacons of truth.
thebigt said:
here is a quote from a democrat:
the US is a federal republic with some democratic elements to it like periodic elections. seeing all these silly claims of 'democracy' in relation to the US that make no real sense as the american founders were trying purposefully to avoid that historically tragic fate....

now, if you were looking for a un-american, un-patriotic quote here it is....this is truly what many[most]democrats think of the US Constitution, imo.
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Funny, stating that we are a republic (we are) and not a direct democracy (we aren't) is typically a Republican argument. And it's technically, if not fundamentally, correct. The whole thing becomes a semantic argument based on what people think democracy means, and on what level.

Exactly what do you find erroneous, un-American, and/or unpatriotic about that quote?

"In the context of US constitutional law, the definition of republic refers specifically to a form of government in which elected individuals represent the citizen body and exercise power according to the rule of law under a constitution, including separation of powers with an elected head of state..."
 
rubberring said:
Rudy Guiliani and Alex Jones... beacons of truth.


Funny, stating that we are a republic (we are) and not a direct democracy (we aren't) is typically a Republican argument. And it's technically, if not fundamentally, correct. The whole thing becomes a semantic argument based on what people think democracy means, and on what level.

Exactly what do you find erroneous, un-American, and/or unpatriotic about that quote?

"In the context of US constitutional law, the definition of republic refers specifically to a form of government in which elected individuals represent the citizen body and exercise power according to the rule of law under a constitution, including separation of powers with an elected head of state..."
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i knew it, i just knew this would draw you out, lololololol

just playin with you demmy :p

ok, i'm done time for floyd.


thanks for playing your participation trophy is in the mail!!! see ya.....
 
I voted for Joe as I was fed up with the lack of leadership we have endured over these past several months related to the coronavirus outbreak. All that aside I was very aware of Joe's stance related to PED susbtances, I remember a short clip in the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger," by him quoting "there is just something simply un-American about it." Well I've always been a believer that AAS and so-called designer steroids are in existence to level the playing field. Do I believe if you work hard you can defy your genetic potential, yes to a certain degree. When you look at a professional athlete in his 30's and having to compete for a roster spot against a 20-something, is it not fair for that 35 year old player to have a T-level equal to that competing player in his 20's? When someone's contract is up and they are working hard to feed their families, I don't understand the harm in that player being treated with TRT to achieve test levels equal to younger pro athletes. Mr. Biden can disagree all he wants in that it sends the wrong message, I wish he could say that to the kids like me who weren't blessed with the aggression, the physical size and strength to compete at a level scouts wanted to see. I call myself a conservative but more libertarian when it comes to substances especially AAS, I do not agree with promoting AAS without doing an endless amount of research but there is a safe way to take them. Be well and well informed!
 
thebigt said:
i heard on a radio talk show last night [ground zero] that obama had made an agreement with canada for canadian armed forces to intercede in the case of american uprising on his canadian trip in 2009---anyone know anything about this---of course google only talks about trump and is totally worthless.
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I dont remember that, I do remember around that time period having Chinese soldiers training here but I dont remember the details or authenticity of that. I can try to google it but odds are the system rigged the search results and put it far far away from sight.
 
thebigt said:
'iran calls US election a SPECTACLE, says it is a clear sign of decline'

for the 1st time since 1979 i agree with iran-imo, electing biden is a definate sign of american decline.

iran also called bidens election a big positive---i guess biden plans on giving them another 1.5 trillion to spread terror in middle east?
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LMFAO!!!
 
thebigt said:
here is a quote from a democrat:
the US is a federal republic with some democratic elements to it like periodic elections. seeing all these silly claims of 'democracy' in relation to the US that make no real sense as the american founders were trying purposefully to avoid that historically tragic fate....

now, if you were looking for a un-american, un-patriotic quote here it is....this is truly what many[most]democrats think of the US Constitution, imo.
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Its actually mostly true what that Dem is saying about the US.

The USA is NOT in fact a Democracy, its a Constitutional Republic with democratic elements. That is accurate.

If 51% of the people vote to take my rights away they cant. The dictatorship side of the Federal government or States to protect and preserve freedom and liberty comes in full tyranny against these so called democratic oppressors.

Of course though, the Democrat is twisting this all around and are utter bs for their own unconstitutional political agenda.
 
hardtoget said:
I voted for Joe as I was fed up with the lack of leadership we have endured over these past several months related to the coronavirus outbreak. All that aside I was very aware of Joe's stance related to PED susbtances, I remember a short clip in the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger," by him quoting "there is just something simply un-American about it." Well I've always been a believer that AAS and so-called designer steroids are in existence to level the playing field. Do I believe if you work hard you can defy your genetic potential, yes to a certain degree. When you look at a professional athlete in his 30's and having to compete for a roster spot against a 20-something, is it not fair for that 35 year old player to have a T-level equal to that competing player in his 20's? When someone's contract is up and they are working hard to feed their families, I don't understand the harm in that player being treated with TRT to achieve test levels equal to younger pro athletes. Mr. Biden can disagree all he wants in that it sends the wrong message, I wish he could say that to the kids like me who weren't blessed with the aggression, the physical size and strength to compete at a level scouts wanted to see. I call myself a conservative but more libertarian when it comes to substances especially AAS, I do not agree with promoting AAS without doing an endless amount of research but there is a safe way to take them. Be well and well informed!
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Well you can make a case for medical TRT as a right for anyone, but ultimatly it should be up to that private company to set the rules to the sport and they can cater to its market and customers.

If your more Libertarian perhaps the Libertarian party is more in line with your values, you could have voted for Jo Jorgensen but perhaps you werent aware as there is a war to silence them and keep that as far off the debate platform regardless if they are mandatory ballots in all 50 states.
 
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Its actually mostly true what that Dem is saying about the US.

The USA is NOT in fact a Democracy, its a Constitutional Republic with democratic elements. That is accurate.

If 51% of the people vote to take my rights away they cant. The dictatorship side of the Federal government or States to protect and preserve freedom and liberty comes in full tyranny against these so called democratic oppressors.

Of course though, the Democrat is twisting this all around and are utter bs for their own unconstitutional political agenda.
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Do tell... What part of that quote is not true? How is the quote being twisted?

Never mind.

See, this is the kind of petulant crap that turns political discourse into dumbed-down elementary school playground argument. YOU are "twisting" it by making assumptions about the person who said it, along with her/his entire political party. High school debate teams wouldn't allow 90% of the drivel some of you expel.
 
hardtoget said:
I voted for Joe as I was fed up with the lack of leadership we have endured over these past several months related to the coronavirus outbreak.
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Seriously don't understand your thought process. You are not happy with the guy who tried to stop the virus from even getting into America, but voted for the party who actively fought him making that effort and then went on vacation and continued to live elitist lifestyles while restricting the rights of others and ignoring their suffering (worse, exploiting it to their own political advantage)?

If you don't think Trump's leadership was enough, why did you vote for someone or a group of someones who did even less and actively opposed early efforts and avoided making any reasonable deal to help the American people?

It is unfathomable. I must be insane.
 
rubberring said:
Do tell... What part of that quote is not true? How is the quote being twisted?

Never mind.

See, this is the kind of petulant crap that turns political discourse into dumbed-down elementary school playground argument. YOU are "twisting" it by making assumptions about the person who said it, along with her/his entire political party. High school debate teams wouldn't allow 90% of the drivel some of you expel.
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Were do democratic party values fall in line with the US Constitution? If the Founding Fathers were alive the Democratic Party wouldn't exist anymore. Neither would the Republican party but thats another story but they are both complete unconstitutional tools that should be impeached for an extrodinary amount of offenses to their oaths all the way across the board.
 
thebigt said:
here is a quote from a democrat:
the US is a federal republic with some democratic elements to it like periodic elections. seeing all these silly claims of 'democracy' in relation to the US that make no real sense as the american founders were trying purposefully to avoid that historically tragic fate....

now, if you were looking for a un-american, un-patriotic quote here it is....this is truly what many[most]democrats think of the US Constitution, imo.
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The American Founders were purposefully trying to avoid the Demican and Republicrat parties from shytting and destroying all over what they created.
 
ax1 said:
If the Founding Fathers were alive the Democratic Party wouldn't exist anymore. Neither would the Republican party but thats another story but they are both complete unconstitutional tools that should be impeached for an extrodinary amount of offenses to their oaths all the way across the board.
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We may have found common ground!
 
rubberring said:
You can't be 62.
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yes, i am 62. and if you really are a vet then i apologize because i realize that my bond with you is much stronger for me than any political affiliation. GOD BLESS you my brother.

i was having a nice blissful time with phenibut and pink floyd but i started thinking about my behavior to another vet and it blew my bliss.

ok, i can rest easy now, i said my peace-you can accept it or not but i feel better for having said it.
 
Guys, I truly appreciate all of your perspectives, as long as they're in keeping with what you personally see as BEST for this country. And I don't mean that in a condescending way. I'm clearly not a Republican, nor a nationalist in any sense, but I'm not a Democrat either. But that's the thing... I doubt very many of us are truly one or the other. There's a vast gray middle ground, and if we don't find some connection there very soon, those politicians in Congress and the WH are gonna cram a lot of unethical rubbish down our throats for decades to come.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna round up some of my gay and trans friends and try to force our socialist views on a conservative neighborhood, while attempting to confiscate their guns. Gotta perpetuate the stereotypes, ya know. :cool:

But hey... at least we have David Gilmour's guitar to appreciate while we polish opposing brass rails on the Titanic.

Be well, everyone.

And most importantly... ROLL TIDE.
 
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thebigt said:
yes, i am 62. and if you really are a vet then i apologize because i realize that my bond with you is much stronger for me than any political affiliation. GOD BLESS you my brother.

i was having a nice blissful time with phenibut and pink floyd but i started thinking about my behavior to another vet and it blew my bliss.

ok, i can rest easy now, i said my peace-you can accept it or not but i feel better for having said it.
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We're good, bro. I appreciate you, and I understand the disappointment and frustration you're feeling. Even though "my guy" (not really) won the election, I'm feeling it too. There's not much to celebrate long-term until the American PEOPLE pull our heads out of our collective asses and wise the fk up. WE are NOT each other's enemies.
 
HIT4ME said:
So, reading what little I can stomach about Joe Biden's plans...his Covid plan...he plans to hire a team of scientists to provide evidence based guidance - and I started thinking.

As a forum we have a lot of people here who are capable of researching and finding evidence of the evidence that is put there to prevent, specifically, Covid.

I am not sure we have any actual evidence based guidance to offer at this point other than to avoid people altogether. Masks, which I have stated I am in favor of because they seem to make sense and have minimal true impact, do not really have solid evidence proving they are proper guidance. It is a guess at this point...an educated guess, but still a guess.

So, while we have been arguing politics, what about our pubmed ninja skills that we all posses? Can we come up with actual evidence to create strong cases for actionable guidance?

Because I fear if we rely on evidence over some educated guesses here, we will have very little to work with and even more confusion.
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I'm keen to get in on this! Will do some research tonight. Good thinking.
 
HIT4ME said:
@Jiigzz thanks for the book recommendation. I got it on audible and have been listening to it this morning while I had a long drive. While I disagree with some stances, his thought process is reasonable and refreshing. Have you read it? If you want the audible book and haven't read it, DM me an email and I will buy an audible copy for you as a thank you.
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You are too kind HIT4ME. I also bought the digital and audible copy and have only managed to get through a few pages so far. Really interested to get his insights. I'm a huge dilbert fan and have most of the comics and some of his more serious works.
 
rubberring said:
Guys, I truly appreciate all of your perspectives, as long as they're in keeping with what you personally see as BEST for this country. And I don't mean that in a condescending way. I'm clearly not a Republican, nor a nationalist in any sense, but I'm not a Democrat either. But that's the thing... I doubt very many of us are truly one or the other. There's a vast gray middle ground, and if we don't find some connection there very soon, those politicians in Congress and the WH are gonna cram a lot of unethical rubbish down our throats for decades to come.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna round up some of my gay and trans friends and try to force our socialist views on a conservative neighborhood, while attempting to confiscate their guns. Gotta perpetuate the stereotypes, ya know. :cool:

But hey... at least we have David Gilmour's guitar to appreciate while we polish opposing brass rails on the Titanic.

Be well, everyone.

And most importantly... ROLL TIDE.
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A fellow bama boy! Roll Tide Roll!
 
thebigt said:
yes, i am 62. and if you really are a vet then i apologize because i realize that my bond with you is much stronger for me than any political affiliation. GOD BLESS you my brother.

i was having a nice blissful time with phenibut and pink floyd but i started thinking about my behavior to another vet and it blew my bliss.

ok, i can rest easy now, i said my peace-you can accept it or not but i feel better for having said it.
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I always thought you typed like a 53 year old!
 
And this is where both Demican and Republic parties have absolutely failed our Nation.....empowering little maggots born on 3rd base who though they hit a home run, acting like little dictators, less power to the people and their representatives, less power to the States reducing the needs of localities...from Party to Party, they each cheer their own when they abuse power and expand on it and then suffer the extreme consequences when the other takes over, rinse and repeat. The Bill of Rights and Constitution burnt to ashes.

The electoral ballot arent cast until Jan. 6 and already Groper is groping and flaunting his soon to be powers.

And with over 70 million votes Dump got which is an ALL TIME RECORD Groper thinks he is the man to unify the nation?????

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Biden plans executive actions that would undo Trump's policies

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HIT4ME said:
So, reading what little I can stomach about Joe Biden's plans...his Covid plan...he plans to hire a team of scientists to provide evidence based guidance - and I started thinking.

As a forum we have a lot of people here who are capable of researching and finding evidence of the evidence that is put there to prevent, specifically, Covid.

I am not sure we have any actual evidence based guidance to offer at this point other than to avoid people altogether. Masks, which I have stated I am in favor of because they seem to make sense and have minimal true impact, do not really have solid evidence proving they are proper guidance. It is a guess at this point...an educated guess, but still a guess.

So, while we have been arguing politics, what about our pubmed ninja skills that we all posses? Can we come up with actual evidence to create strong cases for actionable guidance?

Because I fear if we rely on evidence over some educated guesses here, we will have very little to work with and even more confusion.
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There is nothing new, yet we may learn new things as we continue to make our way down the China virus path. Just as we did with Trump. Obviously Biden will continue to play up the charade that this country will be in safer hands if he actually makes it into office. Ultimately, it’s going to follow the same path regardless of who some of us may call the president or whatever scientific team he hires.

As we know, the only way he can really change things up is with more stringent lockdown measures- we know how well that goes over with the public. Then we have the mask mandates that 33 states have already employed anyway. I believe a large factor behind the celebrations yesterday is because people are sick of all the COVID bullshit, and people are subconsciously or even consciously thinking that changing who is in office will also make that less of a burden. I truly feel that was more the reason we saw people taking a sigh of relief, as the media was very successful in making people believe that Trump‘s response to the virus was inadequate. If he does officially lose the election, that obviously played a key factor.

Was that why China (likely others involved) pulled an “oopsy“ and released it at the perfect time? I know that is buying into a conspiracy theory, but I tend to think so 🤨
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So who is going to stand in line and be first in line to have Groper Joe personally put a Federal mandatory CCP-Virus needle up your moon? Would you prefer Karamela do it?

It’s a 6’1” needle and Groper will keep his mask on so the vaccine is all safe folks! Someone will be there to set up a barrier so he doesnt fall forward to the 5’11” mark and put your life at risk.
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The vaccine is going to be a hot topic for sure. I don’t think the Biden administration would be so bold as to attempt a mandate that people take a vaccine. They rely on manipulating our lives in more deceptive ways. If they were to attempt a vaccine mandate, it simply wouldn’t fly in my eyes. While ~ 75 million (maybe) people in this nation are sheep, ~ 71 million of us declared that we are not.
 
dixonk said:
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what will democrats do if they legalize 20 million illegals and together with the 60.6 million legal hispanics they say to hell with democrats, we will form our own party?

just something to think about.... :unsure:
 
rubberring said:
Guys, I truly appreciate all of your perspectives, as long as they're in keeping with what you personally see as BEST for this country. And I don't mean that in a condescending way. I'm clearly not a Republican, nor a nationalist in any sense, but I'm not a Democrat either. But that's the thing... I doubt very many of us are truly one or the other. There's a vast gray middle ground, and if we don't find some connection there very soon, those politicians in Congress and the WH are gonna cram a lot of unethical rubbish down our throats for decades to come.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna round up some of my gay and trans friends and try to force our socialist views on a conservative neighborhood, while attempting to confiscate their guns. Gotta perpetuate the stereotypes, ya know. :cool:

But hey... at least we have David Gilmour's guitar to appreciate while we polish opposing brass rails on the Titanic.

Be well, everyone.

And most importantly... ROLL TIDE.
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woody, is that you :p
 
hardtoget said:
I voted for Joe as I was fed up with the lack of leadership we have endured over these past several months related to the coronavirus outbreak. All that aside I was very aware of Joe's stance related to PED susbtances, I remember a short clip in the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger," by him quoting "there is just something simply un-American about it." Well I've always been a believer that AAS and so-called designer steroids are in existence to level the playing field. Do I believe if you work hard you can defy your genetic potential, yes to a certain degree. When you look at a professional athlete in his 30's and having to compete for a roster spot against a 20-something, is it not fair for that 35 year old player to have a T-level equal to that competing player in his 20's? When someone's contract is up and they are working hard to feed their families, I don't understand the harm in that player being treated with TRT to achieve test levels equal to younger pro athletes. Mr. Biden can disagree all he wants in that it sends the wrong message, I wish he could say that to the kids like me who weren't blessed with the aggression, the physical size and strength to compete at a level scouts wanted to see. I call myself a conservative but more libertarian when it comes to substances especially AAS, I do not agree with promoting AAS without doing an endless amount of research but there is a safe way to take them. Be well and well informed!
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That’s your reason for voting for Biden? WTF?
 
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